Bolton 5 Newcastle 1 – Magpies Humiliated By Trotters

This was the very last result we wanted today, as Newcastle United were hammered 5-1 by Bolton Wanderers at the Reebok.

And on this performance Newcastle missed Tiote and Joey Barton badly in midfield, and perhaps our squad is not as good as we thought it was, and this also cuts our goal difference down to just +1, and Newcastle are now just 4 points above the drop zone.

And of course there’s even more bad news in that Fabricio Coloccini received a red card after 76 minutes, as the Argentine was sent off for violent conduct, and will now miss the next 3 games, and either Sol Campbell and/or Steven Taylor will get the chance they’ve been patiently waiting for.

The good news is that Andy Carroll got his 8th goal of the season, but that came when Bolton were already 3-0 up soon after half time.

So after beating Sunderland and Arsenal in successive games Newcastle have now gone 3 games against Blackburn, Fulham and Bolton, got only one point, scored two goals and conceded 7 goals – and it’s becoming very clear that our back four is just not good enough.

Bolton were a comfortable 2-0 up at half time through goals from Kevin Davies from a penalty on 18 minutes, after Newcastle captain Kevin Nolan on his return to Bolton literally handed Bolton the go ahead goal.

Kevin handled in the penalty box and Kevin Davies sent Tim Krul the wrong way and scored easily.

And Bolton were 2-0 up after 39 minutes when Chung-Yong Lee put in the rebound, after a terrific free kick by Matt Taylor had come off  the cross-bar – but there will be questions as to why not one of the many Newcastle defenders in the area, could clear the ball before Chung-Yong Lee hit the ball into the net.

It was 2-0 at the break and once again Newcastle had seemed to lose the game in the first 45 minutes, by not turning up, and playing mediocre football at best, and they had an awful lot to do in this game if they were going to make any kind of  come back.

Chris Hughton sent the same eleven out for the second half, even though it looked like we should have more players in midfield, and a come-back looked even less likely when after 50 minutes Johan Elmander rounded goalkeeper Tim Krul to score Bolton’s 3rd goal, and we wondering where the Newcastle defense was this afternoon.

But then on 52 minutes Newcastle did score when who else – new England striker Andy Carroll – pulled one back for the Magpies to to make it 3-1.

But Bolton went further ahead after 72 minutes, when Elmander saw off another weak challenge form a completely out of  sorts Fab Coloccini,  to get his 8th goal of the season, and the Bolton crowd were going wild as Newcastle were being humiliated.

When Coloccini brought down Elmander to stop him breaking through, he was sent off by referee Howard Webb, and Hughton brought on Sol Campbell in place of Jonas Gutierrez.

And just to make the score-line even worse,  Kevin Davies helped himself to another penalty on 90 minutes to make the score 5-1 and send Newcastle to their worst defeat of the season, but more worrying for the Magpies was that Bolton deserved the win, and there will be lots of red flags going off on Tyneside, after this woeful display from Newcastle.

We Newcastle fans tend to over-react to the good results and also to the bad results – and this was a terrible result, and against a middle of the table team too, although Owen Coyle has the Trotters playing very well this season.

With the woeful defending today, there will surely be an opportunity given to our two most experienced Premier League defenders in Sol Campbell and Steven Taylor, and certainly the industrious Cheick Tiote was badly missed today, which again raises the question about how good is our squad in depth – on this display not anywhere near as good as we thought.

Expect to hear Chris Hughton and the players again talk about not over-reacting  to this result – but huge improvement will be needed and quickly after this display.

Next up is Chelsea at home next Sunday, and they were beaten 1-0 at Birmingham today, and have now lost 3 of their last 4 league games – so we’re not sure whether that’s good news or bad news for Newcastle – but only a win against Chelsea next Sunday afternoon  will be what’s needed after this.

We should really try not to over-react too much to this one result, as we suppose every side is allowed to put in one or two terrible displays during a season.  – and this was a terrible display by the Newcastle side today.

As we try to end on a positive not – Cheick Tiote will be back for the Chelsea game, and then Joey Barton will return for the game after that at WBA.  On the evidence of this game we need both of them badly.

Comments welcome.


Bolton Wanderers: Jaaskelainen; Holden, Cahill, Knight, Robinson; Lee, Muamba, Ricketts, Taylor (Petrov, 78); K Davies, Elmander (Klasnic, 80).
Subs not used: Bodgan, Steinsson, M Davies, Rodrigo, Blake.

Newcastle United: Krul; Simpson, Williamson, Coloccini, Enrique; Guthrie (Routledge, 70), Nolan, Smith, Gutierrez (Campbell, 77); Ameobi, Carroll.
Subs not used: Soderberg, Perch, S Taylor, Ranger.

Goals: K Davies 18 (pen), 90 (pen), Lee 39, Elamder 50, 72, Carroll 52,
Bookings: Lee 44, Nolan 52
Sent off: Coloccini
Referee: Howard Webb
Attendance: 22,203

38 comments so far

  • TheGallowgateEnd

    Nov 20, 2010 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #1

    Horror show by us today.

    Anyway, I would say our biggest problem was not that we haven’t had enough power or were unaware of what Bolton could do to us. Going to Reebok and lose is not a shame and we could have had a better game even playing the likes of Guthrie…

    For me the biggest problem was that the players were just unwilling to play even decently. They were just like in the season we were relegated, showing no spirit whatsoever.

    If you see the game again until the moment Routledge comes on, we were 3-1, with a terrible first-half performance but still with 11 men and absolutely in the game. This is something more than normal for we to expect from the team we have and playing a decent Bolton at the Reebok. But no, the players didn’t seemed pleased with that, they just wanted to screw it all, and then you will have to consider what Smithy did (THE WHOLE GAME), what Coloccini did (TWICE) and realise that we could have gone away with a defeat but a defeat that can happen to everyone.

    I’m just gutted. This is not the Newcastle side I got used to see this season – even when losing games – and we certainly lacked a leadership and dignity more than anyting – ANYTHING – today.

  • jimiley

    Nov 20, 2010 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #2

    Two weeks in football is a long time. Hoots was nearly given a 5 year contract. No chance now. Sick of long ball football to the heads of Stroller and Carroll. BORING. Hoots is on the way out and we all know it. Or do we think Hoots is the manager to win something? He lost all credibility when he played a reserve team against Arsenal in the only Cup or competition we can win. He is content to win nothing and has no ambition except survival in the Prem which is looking dubious in any event. He and Cashley are two morons who have no ambition for this club. Cashley wants to make a profit when he sells and to hell with the club and the supporters. Hoots is going along for the ride and will not rock Cashley’s boat

  • Turkish Magpie

    Nov 20, 2010 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #3

    so forget Chelsea because we wont win that either but team for WBA could be..





  • Hatem Ben Arfa

    Nov 20, 2010 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #4

    the people who say chris hughton should be sacked are all the same people who thought he was an absolute legend after the arsenal and sunderland win..sort yaself out and get behind the team….main target after promotion is to avoid relagation and so far were doing a good job at that! 100% behind hughton!!!!

  • dougski

    Nov 20, 2010 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #5

    our squad depth is shocking and to think not buying anybody in january is worrying! the players who are coming in instead of our first team players the ones that want a chance have done anything, smith is absolutely rubbish hes picking up 50k a week and every game we play we lose with him playing its ridiculous, guthrie rw when we have routledge just doesnt make sense. the back up players are genuinely not good enough we have no will to cement a first team place its a joke. we need a shake up of players now some of these guthries smiths lovenkads who are not proving they deserve a game should be sold and we can get 2 players in with a bit of creativity in jan who are willing to prove they are prem quality because these palyers seriously arent! kranjcar is a must buy!

  • davis_toons

    Nov 20, 2010 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #6

    Simpson X
    S.Taylor! (Try him on the right)

  • davis_toons

    Nov 20, 2010 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #7

    I think the only way not to use smith is to sell him.

  • balubas1

    Nov 20, 2010 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #8

    Smith&Guthrie OUT!

  • balubas1

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #9

    We would have been better off with Vukic, Routledge and Lovenkrands in stead of Ameobi, Guthrie and Smith today. And I also think we would be better off that way ANY DAY.

  • davis_toons

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #10

    Let the younger players have a chance player like Haris Vuckic

    Full Name Haris Vuckic
    Birth Date August 21, 1992
    Birth Place Slovenia
    Height 1.89m
    Weight 78 kg
    Age 18
    Position Midfielder
    Squad No 29

  • okkurtgarvilt

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #11


    get realistic…we can’t and we won’t beat everyone in this league. We have just been promoted, we are NOT a top premier league team, the only thing we should be aiming for is to finish above the relegation line. Hughton is our manager, why don’t you support him instead of just moaning and being unrealistic. It takes time, to build a good PL team, it will come and to sack Hughton now would be the worst decision ever…stability is what we need and it will come if we stick with our manager!

    It is pathetic how fast everybody changes their opinions, when beat sunderland and arsenal we were going to finish in top 6…then we lose 2 games and now it is “sack the manager” or “relegation here we come”…pathetic!

    Get behind our team, not only when we win, but alsoe when we lose and go through though times!
    rant over!


  • davis_toons

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #12

    Just look at the built and height.

  • davis_toons

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #13

    We dnt have to sack the manager yet.

    We need a good assistance to help CH.

  • balubas1

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #14

    and that nasty play by pushing Elmander and Colo giving him the elbow later.. that needs to go out the window.

    Colo looked bad when he was 1v1 with Elmander, but how did Elmander end up facing only Colo when there is 60 meters to the goal? If Barton was playing he would be charging back there..

  • dougski

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #15

    vuckic was injured for today but smith and guthrie between them need out and we need to give vuckic some playing time and get kranjcar in too hardly cost more than 2 or 3 mil as contract running out next summer. we have absolutely no creativity in our team its so worrying waiting for ben arfa in march is too late then!

  • balubas1

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #16

    Alan Smith:

    -Can’t tackle
    -Can’t run
    -Can’t pass
    -Can’t shoot
    -Can’t head
    -Can’t score
    -Can’t dribble
    -Has 60k wages
    -Has the same ugly haircut he had 10yrs ago

  • balubas1

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #17

    Danny Guthrie:

    -CAN shoot
    -CAN pass
    -Can’t run
    -Can’t head
    -Is fat
    -Is unfit
    -Is weak

  • geoff777

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #18

    HWTL – Next game Chelski … bring them on.

  • dougski

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #19

    haha very accurate to be fair

  • davis_toons

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #20

    Bro dougski,

    If Haris Vuckic is not injured do you think he will be given a chance to sit on the BENCH?

  • balubas1

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #21


    YES- We need some depth when it comes to midfielders that can deliver a decent performance no matter if we loose or not. Tiote and Barton are those kind of players. Guthrie and Smith are players that will lead to defeats like today if the are not hitting a streak of luck.

    Also Nolan really depends on good teammates in order for him to get up there. He is slow, but shines when he gets more freedom when Tiote and Barton cleans up.

    Maybe Bolton would have beat us today anyways, but it would not be 5-1 with Barton and Tiote in the team.

  • davis_toons

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #22

    SMITH v Vuckic, Who will you choose?

  • davis_toons

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #23

    Bro balubas1,

    I think many of us saw this problem as well

  • davis_toons

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #24

    I would rather put Nolan back and replace Smith with

    Not injured players avib
    Wayne Routledge
    Peter Lovenkrands
    or Xisco

    Get him back from loan.Test him on the right.
    Kazenga LuaLua

  • branunited

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #25

    I’m very hurt by the defeat as all followers of the magpies. I saw the game was not a party to the result was 5-1, note three points where newcastle should fortalecerse.1: central defender, (I’m sure the solution is in the bank, called steven taylor) 2: carroll have a dependency (depend a lot on what you do or not do andy carroll, we need a striker who can support more, and Ameobi is not the solution, I would use Lovenkrands or even more to sign another striker in my options are NICKLE BENDTNER and Hugo Almeida. 3: to improve the center of the court (as in the front depend on Tiote, smith love me, but it is not the solution, we need to buy a midfielder.
    Today I really liked what I do guthrie, vuckic should have more games have a lot of quality, and should not be dismissed ch.
    as they say in Mexico, God squeezes but does not strangle, remember we are 4 points away from fourth and fifth and 6 away from the arsenal, we’re not that far, we get good results before the first round of the tournament, in addition to search 3 signatures that could help us.
    I am sure we will achieve a victory against Chelsea and against wba

  • moonraker

    Nov 20, 2010 at 6:38 PM

    Comment #26

    Ed, You can’t just say ” the defence aren’t good enough”.

    The team defends as a team and the problem today was lack of strength in the midfield without Tiote and Barton.

    We were always gonna get days like this so don’t write us off yet.

    There are loads of poorer teams than us in the PL and we have good players to come back sooner or later.

    Let’s put this down to ” a bad day at the office”and learn from it rather than committing us to automatic relegation.

    There will be many twists and turns this season and I’m sure we’ll be ok.

    I do agree with jimiley on the point about the weakened team against Arsenal cos we could have beaten them and it’ll be intresting to see if and when Hoots gets offered a new contract. That will be a defining moment for the club because despite his successes, the jury’s still out on him!!

  • Trotter

    Nov 20, 2010 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #27 your views are more realistic than earlier this week,when I was prompted to respond to your lack of respect and uninformed views of how “easy” you would outbattle us……unless headbutting or elbowing our players is how you achieve that.Show some respect and dont get too carried away…you lot have a long way to go before you can start to feel secure in this division.
    Oh…Andy Carrol looked impressive I have to admit.

  • SL_toon

    Nov 20, 2010 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #28

    @ Trotter

    “Andy Carrol looked impressive”…
    yea, he stood out in the games against balckburn and fulham as well, when we had poor results. Not to mention against France as well…

    As for our views, please understand that a lot of the comments here are made by a minority of fans who get overconfident when we win, and predict doom when we lose.
    Most fans understand that we will win some easy games, win some tough games, lose some easy games undeservedly, lose some games by playing shit, etc… it’s all part of football, and to be honest, the loss to Bolton doesnt bother me because we’ve already shown that we’re capable of winning some as well. Im confident we’ll stay up, and so will Bolton.
    As for outbattling Bolton… again, that’s the minority of (idiotic) toon fans speaking. Sorry about that.
    Well played Bolton. Have to admit, Coyle worked wonders so far.

  • SGToon

    Nov 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #29

    can we as newcastle fans please chill for a sec? a few good results, sunderland & arsenal, and we think we will finish top 6, while a few bad results, bolton, blackburn, and we are giving chris hughton the boot.

    please do remember our target for this season is prem survival, anything thing else above 17th is a bonus. Being frustrated and moaning about the team performance after a 5-1 mauling is understandable, however, calling for the manager to be sacked is not. When are we gonna learn that stability is key to progress, and we are doing that just fine. Whom do we think we can get as a replacement better than our current manager chris hughton under our circumstances??

    Frustrating yes, but this was without a few of our big players – barton, tiote, ben arfa. Hopefully we can get a reaction from the players for our next few games.

  • SL_toon

    Nov 20, 2010 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #30

    @ all toon fans

    Its disheartening to see all the hard work put in by the team suddenly disappear as we get thumped. But, its worse to see ppl calling for CH’s head because of 4pts in last 3games. That’s right, 4 in the last 3. that’s good enough to stay up, if we keep going like this. Dont expect not to lose any, and dont expect a fine performance day in day out. But we are still not the favorites anymore to get releageted! isnt that good progress, considering we were favorites jus a few gameweeks back?! So hold back your criticism of CH and Ashley and the squad until its obvious that we’re heading for the drop. But im quite sure, the lads will start delivering results again once the monster (Tiote) and Barton are back…

    As for squad talent, the overall poor performance of today makes it look like we’re struggling with squad depth. Come on toon fans, stop calling for players to be sold/released when we need them. It’s not easy getting a PL quality winger and CM, even if you sell Smith+Guthrie. Maybe Krakjar is available, but what if we dont get him in the transfer window, and we’ve already sold the two we have?!
    It crazy to say we dont have depth. We’ve got Smith who can do a job, Guthrie who’s good as CM, Routs who can run, Sol and Saylor who are both highly rated and experienced, Gosling coming in soon, Ranger pushing for starting place, Lovernkrads is great if he can find form, Xisco/Best who have shown glimpses of what they can do, etc etc… !!!

    Come on, leds get behind the lads! Changes ARE in order, but that’s how a team works. Players find and lose form. But Fan’s must never lose faith!

    HWTL and CH!!

  • branunited

    Nov 20, 2010 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #31

    observed as ran carroll, enrique, nolan, 5-1 apezar of me was happy for the team attitude, apezar area with ten players and go down the marker 4-1, and fought a little more luck could perhaps have tied the score in those three shots, carroll the crossbar, goalkeeper Lovenkrands that plugs and williamson, by the attitude of the team for their dedication and many other things, was so that I love and I have 16 years of age. Coloccini committed a nonsense, hopefully the defense will improve without it, I would like to see Taylor, but campbell is good but lacks speed. Coloccini had a few games playing badly. to which I, ch must realize that you need to sign players, we need to solve some places, a midfielder and maybe one or two attackers, that Carroll played very lonely sometimes, and attacks are very predictable, I will qualify with a word, the tournament’s top teams including regular, BUT without doubt to Newcastle will do well and to enter European competitions. remember we are eight points behind second place and four fourth and fifth. I leave part of my lineup, but completenla with players from the same team or hires.

    simpson s taylor ¿? enrique
    hba / ¿? nolan Tiote / ¿? jonas
    carroll ¿?

  • Toonarmy1993

    Nov 20, 2010 at 9:37 PM

    Comment #32

    i was at the reebok today and i was hugely embarrassed by ‘captain kevin nolans’ performance today, might be a good player sometimes, but can also be terrible!.. bit too big headed sometimes.

  • korn8

    Nov 20, 2010 at 9:56 PM

    Comment #33

    wtf is wrong with some of you? We are not Man. Utd! We are not Chelsea, Arsenal or L`Pool either.

    We can`t expect to win every game! We are a newly promoted team that will lose matches that some of our fans expect to win. So what? The most important thing is to stay up.
    Chris Hughton have done a wonderful job since we got relegated from the premiership…
    Who could have done the same with the limited funds and support he have had?

    I`m proud of beeing a fan of Newcastle United. I`m proud of what we have achievied since we got relegated. Get your act together and start acting like proper fans!

    Howay the lads!

  • Brutooon

    Nov 20, 2010 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #34

    Last night demolition is totally because of Alan Smith. He was never a good so called Defensive Midfielder, he cant tackle, he cant even pass a ball.

    Bolton knew alan smith was bad, so they exploit our weekness and get 5-1

  • rfcready

    Nov 21, 2010 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #35

    Around about the time when Enrique was the worst player in a Newcastle strip,Coloccini was a close second.Now Enrique has adapted to the Prem but Coloccini is still the the worst player at the back since Bramble.He is awful with the ball at his feet in a pressure situation and i am so glad he got sent off so i will not have to suffer him for 3 games maybe he will trip on the soap and break his leg.

  • Black n whiteSi

    Nov 21, 2010 at 12:45 AM

    Comment #36

    well said Korn8, its only a few bad results and we are far from the shambles we were 2 years ago.
    I’m still proud of the team and of Hoots and what they have and are still achieving right now in the PL. This year is about stabalizing after the shambles of the past years.

  • Sav

    Nov 21, 2010 at 2:53 AM

    Comment #37

    I am not calling for Hoot’s head but I will say this – there is no excuse for such an ill-disciplined display. Barton last week and we could have had a few more off to miss 3 matches today.
    When we have an experienced side there’s no excuse for some of the stuff we dished up today. And now we have to suffer important players absent again. I hope the club stops their wages.

    If that is someone’s idea of team spirit and togetherness you are kidding yourself and they can stick it. I’d have preferred to see Hoots being straight about it rather than waffling on about we matched them in the early stages. Get a grip, Hoots, it was humiliating enough as it was.

  • Rjmiddleton

    Nov 21, 2010 at 3:47 AM

    Comment #38

    Admittedly I did not see the whole match i watched from 3-1 afterwards but from what i saw we were playing ok football we just weren’t clinical enough up front. Carroll hit the bar, we were denied an obvious penalty and lovenkrands missed a sitter. We were obviously poor in defence – Colo in particular – but at the end of the day the scoreline to me seemed a little harsh. It certainly is not enough to be calling for hughton’s head. If the defence played better and the attack were more clinical it may have been a completely different scoreline as from our chances we could have at least got a draw… or not i dunno


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