Newcastle Still Well Positioned In The League

After the games today in the Premier League,  Newcastle are still fairly well positioned in the Premier League, and still better off than we thought they’d be this stage of the season.

Chris Hughton – hopefully we’ll  learn from yesterday’s poor performance

Newcastle are still in the top half of the table, albeit in 10th place, and are currently 4 points off 5th place and 4 points above the relegation zone, so the season could still go either way.

But we shouldn’t over-react to the game yesterday, when we admittedly played really poorly against an in-form side, and paid the penalty with a 5-1 hammering.

We have to remember that it was only 11 days ago that Newcastle were in 5th place in the league, after we had beaten Arsenal 1-0 at the Emirates following the 5-1 hammering of Sunderland, and just before we played Blackburn Rovers at home.

We had hoped we could have taken maximum points from the home games against Blackburn and Fulham, to prove the lads were getting a little bit of consistency into their game this season, but  it wasn’t to be, and we got just one point out of those two games.

Since the afternoon of 10th November, a short 11 days ago, we’ve sunk in the league a little bit, after  getting just a single point from our last three games, and that came after winning the previous three games on the trot.

The next three games are against Chelsea at home, WBA away and then Liverpool at home, so they are not easy matches, but we’ll have to wait and see how we can do from now on – and more importantly which Newcastle side will turn up for each game.

At least with Chris Hughton in charge on Tyneside, it looks like Newcastle will go into each of those games, trying to find some way to get all 3 points.

One thing the lads must do this week, is to learn from their mistakes of yesterday, so they can cut out the sloppy goals we started to concede against Blackburn and continued yesterday. That’s certainly one area that Newcastle must improve on in the coming games, and we can measure the improvement in defense by how many clean sheets the lads can keep.

But it’s hardly doom and gloom time, as we’re still ahead of where we thought we’d be at this stage of the season – after all if we finish 10th in the Premier League this season – we’ll have done just great.

If somebody had said back in July, 2009 that we’d be in 10th place in the Premier League in17 months time, we would have asked them what they were smoking.

Hey, if  we can survive the season, and end up in a decent position, the club can then press on, by further strengthening the squad in the summer.

Comments welcome.

44 comments so far

  • alex84

    Nov 21, 2010 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #1

    10th is not bad at all…just need to keep the stability and keep building the club back to where it should be!

  • CT

    Nov 21, 2010 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #2

    Hoots must learn to change around the formation to suit different opposition, plus his substitutions can be erratic. His strengths are likeable guy who the players love but thats also his weakness, needs to be braver in his team seections and more ruthless in dropping players.
    Too many players are starting to feel untouchable and look jaded. If we use the excuse we cant play because Barton/Tiote are missing then we really are screwed, change the formation to accomodate their loss.

  • leedodd

    Nov 21, 2010 at 7:02 PM

    Comment #3

    We Just Have to Learn To Take the Knocks Dust ourselves down and batter Chelsea Next Weekend !!! This is After all Newcastle United We don’t do Things the Easy Way Do We !!!

  • North Atlantic Magpie

    Nov 21, 2010 at 7:04 PM

    Comment #4

    No we’re not well positioned.

  • Howay The Lads

    Nov 21, 2010 at 7:12 PM

    Comment #5

    NAM, we’re tenth. Our first team for the next game will probably have cost us £17 million; £1.5 million per player.

    Pretty good if you ask me

  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Nov 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #6

    We must play Steve Taylor & Campbell against Chelsea. I am sorry while I think Williamson has been a decent buy he is not a Premier League class defender & with Collo suspended.

  • alex84

    Nov 21, 2010 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #7

    10th is better than where west ham and wolves are at the mo! some people have there heads in the clouds!…i just dont get how people can be so unrealistic…we were playin the likes of bristol city last year, now were back in the prem were mixing it with the best, were guna have bad results everyone does, villa, liverpool, chelsea every team does, hughton can only work with the team he has, he has given lover a chance, who hasnt taken it, he gave perch a fair chance, get off CH’S back!

  • CT

    Nov 21, 2010 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #8

    Leave it as it is ; ostrich/head in sand springs to mind! Hoots needs more tactical awareness and that means an objective view point which he doesn`t have with “THIS SPECIAL GROUP OF PLAYERS” He needs help! Truth hurts sometimes!!

  • GeordieGerman

    Nov 21, 2010 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #9

    As I said in the last article. I’m not expecting anything on Sunday. But after then and with Barton back, then I have higher expectations. Could say Tiote = draws Tiote and Barton = wins.

  • alex84

    Nov 21, 2010 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #10

    who are his special group of players then CT?

  • Turkish Magpie

    Nov 21, 2010 at 7:56 PM

    Comment #11

    Andy Carroll
    Chieck Tiote
    Kevin Nolan
    Joey Barton

    These are special players and unfortuneately our team revolves around them, i say unfortuneately because when 2 or more are missing (like yesterday) and when someone like Nolan has a bad game, we seem to fall apart

    we have players that our team would really miss out on if they were to miss games (such as Enrique) however they are only individuals and we can cope without them. It is this ‘core’ of players that Hughton seems to have built our team on and until yesterday Coloccini would be on there aswell as he’s been a fantastic performer since relegation really

  • G

    Nov 21, 2010 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #12

    Christ, there are some miserable swines on the blog tonight. Look, it happens, move on, next game and all that. Look on the positive side, that only happens to most teams once per season. Now it’s out of the way we can expect better results for the rest of the season.

  • alex84

    Nov 21, 2010 at 8:02 PM

    Comment #13

    Agreed G!

  • GeordieGerman

    Nov 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM

    Comment #14

    So Newcastle, Sunderland and Fulham have it behind them…. ?

    Nice one.

  • GeordieGerman

    Nov 21, 2010 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #15

    Oh nearly forgot Villa.

    How could I?

  • G

    Nov 21, 2010 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #16

    Like I say, it happens, don’t dwell on it. Just look forward to picking the team up against Chelsea. If the mackems can get a result there, surely we can too? Frankly though, I will be happy if we just don’t let too many goals in. We are still in the top half of the table (just!) and this is a season of consolidation. We are better off than at least 4 other teams I have seen this season, so there is no need to panic. We were never going for a Euro spot this term anyway, so just enjoy it.

  • CT

    Nov 21, 2010 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #17

    Alex, Hoots words not mine. Tactically we are naive against big defenders which we need to play around but are not set up to do so!
    In addition, when against 2 big strikers/ route 1 merchants we are simply not strong enough at the back, and we fan around in our own third.
    Coaching/tactical and formation changes to suit the opposition is where we need to get smarter.
    Our best results are against teams who play, not the route 1 merchants.!!

  • JamesP32

    Nov 21, 2010 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #18

    We need to change the defense, especially since collo is out, we should put sol and steven taylor in

  • Howay The Lads

    Nov 21, 2010 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #19

    “Tactically we are naive against big defenders which we need to play around but are not set up to do so!”

    That’s because we have no quality up front (bar Carroll). Lovenkrands is below average at best. Shola is erratic. Ranger is good, but lacks a clinical touch. Best is poor. Xisco is questionable at best.

    How are we meant to score goals with that?

  • alex84

    Nov 21, 2010 at 8:44 PM

    Comment #20

    exactly, thats what i mean by hoots can only deal with what he’s got, which is why he went for nolan behind carroll as really there isnt another striker who can perform well at this level, apart from ameobi and carroll the other strikers are not prem level, which is why i think were doing well with the squad we have…imo.

  • CT

    Nov 21, 2010 at 9:05 PM

    Comment #21

    Losses against B`burn/B`pool/ Stoke and a lucky draw against Wigan. Playing Jonas on the left(no left foot), Guthrie on the right(who struggled there in the champs) and when moved inside was a different player. Williams/Collo being muscled out are the facts.
    End of people!! Hoots needs help tactically!!

  • Marty-Toon

    Nov 21, 2010 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #22

    Team aint bad but we have some weaknesses.
    Don`t like goin after oe player but SMITH has to go.
    While he is a talented player,it just hasn`t happened for him at NUFC even though he has had plenty of chances,let BSA buy him and pay his stupid wages

  • Howay The Lads

    Nov 21, 2010 at 9:10 PM

    Comment #23

    CT, all you’re saying is we don’t have very good players and blaming it on Hughton!

    Gutierrez was woeful when he was on the right in 08/09. He only ever looked good when he partnered up with Jose.

    Guthrie might not seem good out wide, but Hughton is the one with OPTA stats and all that. If they say we are good with him there, I trust them over an opinion.

    He was a different player when moved inside. However, he was no more than average when he played CM in our relegation season and has no defensive game, and nobody making runs going forward making him practically void

  • Rich TOON Bristol

    Nov 21, 2010 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #24

    10th in the table!? Please lads do not let the position fool you, we are only 4 points away from relegation zone, and that could potentially be cut to 1 point when we lose to chelski, assuming hoots doesnt pull summin out the bag! Rant over

  • newcastle29

    Nov 21, 2010 at 9:17 PM

    Comment #25
  • Toon XI

    Nov 21, 2010 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #26

    We are not well positioned. With the upcoming schedule I so no other alternative than to be in the bottom 5 by January 1st. We have wasted far too many points at home against so called weaker competition. It may bite us in the ar5e at season’s end. I pray it doesn’t.

    NUFC is in my blood…but some days it makes my blood boil.

  • CT

    Nov 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM

    Comment #27

    HTL, You haven`t got a clue! You miss every point! Can`t be bothered any more. You only believe yourself,pointed out earlier you have a selective memory or none(not by me)
    You cannot argue against the facts, we have a decent squad, sometimes Hoots has either no bravery , is too loyal, or lacks technical nouse.
    One example then I`m off, for Argie he plays RIGHT back, we play LEFT wing. Rest my case

  • Howay The Lads

    Nov 21, 2010 at 10:48 PM

    Comment #28

    And he was amazing for Argentine at the WC, wasn’t he?

    So amazing he got dropped after about 3 games 😆

    I don’t only believe myself. I only believe the truth, which often turns out to be myself 😉

    I say we have a decent squad (except for up front, where, other than Carroll we don’t have enough goals).

    If you actually gave examples rather than incoherently blabbering on about Hughton not having a clue then maybe I’d be more inclined to see it through your eyes

  • Warwick Hunt

    Nov 21, 2010 at 10:53 PM

    Comment #29

    I think we are going in the right direction, this season has thrown up some surising results and it seems that any team can beat anyone. Not long ago it was what made our league the best to watch in the World because of the unpredicablilty of it. It’s going to be close from top to bottom this season and long may this trend continue.

  • Thump

    Nov 21, 2010 at 11:00 PM

    Comment #30

    In this season it seems that if you don’t win by 1 goal, you win by 3 or 4 goals. It’s a very interesting season (assuming it keeps up).

    Sadly I’m in the same position as Toon XI. We have a hard run of games coming up and I have a very bad feeling about them.

  • jimiley

    Nov 21, 2010 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #31

    Well positioned? Bollocks. Tell me we are well positioned at the end of December and then I will be a lot happier. The position of the club at Xmas is its true position. 4 points off a relegation place after all the “easy” games we have had at home is well positioned? You need your head examining. Black and white eyes and no objectivity.

  • CT

    Nov 22, 2010 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #32

    Blind Faith a band in the 60`s lasted 3 months before they imploded. HWTL, it`s where we are going if we don`t wake up , Hoots deserves to be our manager, no doubt about that. A manager needs senior/technical/astute/tactical/people around him. He doesn`t have it, and simply this is where things go wrong, He`s lost!
    Don`t mean to be clever, but he needs help!!

  • Sav

    Nov 22, 2010 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #34

    We are 10th alright, but 10th in a bad run of form, heading down not up.
    Given that we are only 4 points from a relegation place, its not much comfort.
    Besides, its not the losing 3 points to Bolton but the sloppy, lacklustre, crude and irresponsible way we went about it that narks me. 2 experienced players banned for 3 weeks apiece through pathetic violent conduct within 2 weeks of each other? We can’t afford such selfishness. Where was the ‘playing for each other’ stuff?

    If Houghton doesn’t read them the riot act, and I hope he does, he should get his own marching orders.

  • branunited

    Nov 22, 2010 at 4:59 AM

    Comment #35

    I’ll leave the subject, I would like to sign during winter to striker David Odonkor, juice german world cup eurcopa 2006 and 2008, plays for Spanish betis, is 26 years old and costs 1 million euros, is a footballer without much skill, but is very fast in fact runs the 100 meters in 10 seconds, someone who can bring us much about the bands, PLEASE Consider it, I leave a link to David Odonkor http://www. / watch? v = gXv1GgUT4l8

  • branunited

    Nov 22, 2010 at 5:02 AM

    Comment #36

    I’ll leave the subject, I would like to sign during winter to striker David Odonkor, juice german world cup eurcopa 2006 and 2008, plays for Spanish betis, is 26 years old and costs 1 million euros, is a footballer without much skill, but is very fast in fact runs the 100 meters in 10 seconds, someone who can bring us much about the bands, PLEASE Consider it, I leave a link to David Odonkor

  • buzza

    Nov 22, 2010 at 8:16 AM

    Comment #37

    If we got a point at Chelsea i’d be delirious! What we have to do is meake sure we beat WBA who are also relegation candidates and then push on and get a result against liverpool who are huffing and puffing also…
    People are saying CH doesn’t know what he’s doing regards subs etc… What a joke! You take out Tiote and our defense is maruaded, you take out Barton and our ball possession is halfed, you put on any of our subs and our team is a lot weaker (maybe not Taylor and cambell?)…
    What the hell do you expect Hughton to do?
    3 points against WBA and a point against liverpool would be a decent run…

  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 22, 2010 at 8:21 AM

    Comment #38

    The plus points of CH are his man management skills, his honesty, enthusiasm and integrity and his purchase of Tiote.

    Some of the above enabled us to get promoted with the most expensive championship squad in history. Fair enough though, he gelled the team together to get promoted at the first attempt.

    My biggest beef with CH is that now in the premiership, he doesn’t appear to take on board his previous mistakes he could get away with in the championship and instead of eradicating them , duplicates them further.

    He is over- cautious
    He has no plan B whatsoever, a la SBR.
    Seems to have one tactic only (route 1)
    Repeatedly plays people out of position .
    Is reluctant to play youth. How are the likes of Kadar etc inferior to Perch?
    Has some ”untouchables”, no matter how poorly they play. Would Vuksic really have been any worse than Smith ?
    Has made some shocking signings in Perch and Best. Fair enough all managers do.
    Doesn’t appear to take much of a hardline with serial offenders.

    I don’t want to lose CH but I’m just not sure he is a manager first and foremeost. Personally I would love to see my favourite of all time Beardo introduced in some way to influence some flair and passing one touch football. Beardo has no ego issues like a certain other number 9 who won’t even go and do an apprenticeship and is doing a fantastic job with the reserves.

  • ash1001

    Nov 22, 2010 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #39

    Yeh we have had some brilliant results, but to be fair, some were a real surprise, and if we are honest we all expected a lot more from games against the likes of Fulham, Wigan etc. and as for the teams that had powerful based players, the likes of Bolton and Blackburn we were pretty clueless.
    Long balls to Carroll from defence seems to be the order of the day, ala Big Sam style which we hated, but it seems to be acceptable for CH to use the same tactic, and that’s out of the window if Andy Carroll gets injured cos Shola ain’t gone win the ball in the air, have we a plan B -don’t think so.
    If we had of picked up a few points from those that we have dropped then yeh we would have been doing just grand, but that’s not the case 1 out of the last 9 says it all.
    CH needs to sort it out sooner rather than later if he’s capable of doing so, this is his real testing time with the upcoming fixtures been as they are.

  • NOVA2967

    Nov 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #40

    CH has been amazing for us since he took over. However he is not perfect and made a mistake against Bolton. His formation with Barton is working great for us but when your two best midfield players are out you can not just plug the gaps with other players. Guthrie is not made for the wing.

    He needed to change the formation and I do hopes he changes to a new formation for the next game.


    Simps- Campbell- Willo- Enrique


    Routledge Jonas



    This team would be a joy to watch


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