Martin Jol Would Be Good – Pardew Would Be Very Bad


We may have been just a little blase when talking about Martin Jol earlier today, because Martin has done very well at Ajax, and was great at Tottenham, until things turned sour at the start of the 2007-2008 season.

Martin Jol – would be good choice for Newcastle

The one thing we remember with Martin Jol,  is after buying players worth around £40M in the summer of 2007, he just couldn’t get Spurs going at all, and at that time of course he was assisted by Chris Hughton.

And he finally was sacked on 25th October of 2007, along with Chris, who of course joined Kevin Keegan at Newcastle in mid-February the next year.

Martin had been appointed Spurs manager after Frenchman Jacques Santini resigned from the manager’s job after just 13 games in charge, and on 8th November 2004, Jol was appointed full-time Tottenham manager, and started the London club playing some good open and attacking football.

In the 2005-2006 season Jol led Tottenham to their highest league finish since 1990, which meant they had qualified for the UEFA Cup via their league position for the first time ever, and Tottenham conceded just 38 league goals that season, the fewest since 1971.

In the next season, Spurs surged into 5th place in the Premier League, and again secured UEFA Cup qualification, and Tottenham reached the quarter-finals of the UEFA Cup and the FA Cup, losing to the eventual winners in both competitions.

His record at Tottenham was 148 games played,won 67, drew 38 and lost 43 for a 45.27% win rate.

In the 2008–2009 season he was coach at Hamburger SV, and they finished in 5th place in the Bundislega, and the club qualified for the Europa League. His record at Hambuger SC was played 53 won 32 drew 7 and lost 14 for a win percentage of 60.38.

In May of 2009, following just one season in Germany,  Jol was appointed the new coach at Ajax, taking over from Marco van Basten, and ended that first season with the league’s strongest defense and conceded the lowest number of goals (20)  in five season by any Dutch side.

And Ajax didn’t drop a single point after last January, winning their final 14 games of the season, and finishing with 85 points, a 17 point improvement on the previous season, and just a single point behind FC Twente,  managed by Steve McClaren.    Ajax also scored an amazing 106 goals last season for a goal difference of 86.

This season in Holland, the side was in 4th place in the table when he left the club last night through mutual consent. His record at Ajax was played 77 won 50 drew 16 and lost 11 for a win percentage of 64.94.

Overall in his previous three clubs his record is played 278 won 149 drew 61 and lost 68 for a win percentage of 53.6.

54 year-old Martin Jol is known for building strong defenses, (you can see that from his record), but he also plays good open attacking football, and that should presumably be a big plus in his claim to be Newcastle’s new manager. But of course it’s hard to know with Mike Ashley, because he never says anything.

And in the summer Jol came out and said that Chris Hughton was a fabulous coach and that Newcastle should give his former assistant a long term contract.

And now he may even end up at Newcastle, given the sacking of his former colleague only yesterday. And Newcastle players and Jol would have one thing in common – they ball think Chris Hughton is a great coach.

Given the other candidates we are told are vying for the job – we have to hope Newcastle appoint Jol, if no other manager comes forward.

Notice we didn’t mention Alan Pardew much – because he just doesn’t have the record to suggest he could do anything good at Newcastle.

It’s also worrying that Alan is still the odds on favorite in the latest betting, but Curbishley and O’Neill are falling away and are now down at 10-1.

On our poll on the home page – Martin Jol is favored by 77% of voters so far, with Curbishley on 3% and Pardew on 2% – and “none of the above” at 18% – those are waiting for Jose Mourinho to come forward. :D.

Please vote on our home page,  if you haven’t already done so.

Comments welcome.



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57 comments so far

  • magpie999

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:01 PM

    Comment #1

    Just watched the full Alan Sugar interview about Chris Hughtons sacking and the very last bit is very telling for me.

    Sugar was asked what Chris would do now to which he replied 2don’t worry about Chris he will get another job, hes a good coach so may get a job as a number 2 at a club in the Premier League”

    Now this is a guy who claims to know him very well and hes suggesting hughton will get a job as a number 2….not another managers job but a number 2.

    Sorry but that says it all to me and only confirms what I think, Hughtons is a great guy, could well be a good coach but he is not Number 1 material he is Premier League Manager material and this is confirmed by the comments of someone who claism to know him very well.

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  • NuFcKieran

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:04 PM

    Comment #2

    look at pardews old teams. west ham bottom of the league, charlton league one, southampton league 1.
    martin jol, ajax 4th in the league and to be honest he did a fairly good job with tottenham so he’s the man for me. but ad rather have CH

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  • Turkish Magpie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:08 PM

    Comment #3
  • Edd Case

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #4

    It really HAS to be Jol, why else would he leave Ajax?

    Some sort of compo deal with Ajax might have been done to agree to let him go by ‘mutual consent’ which would seem strange to me normally, unless, of course, they wanted to sack him, in which case he could get more money from them…

    I dunno, perhaps just BIG coincidence but I think Jol HAS to be the man.

    Pardew, Curbishly, absolutely not.

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  • jesus was a geordie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:12 PM

    Comment #5

    I disagree, just because Alan Sugar said he might get a job as a coach doesn’t mean he’s not Number 1 material at all.

    Far too many people who know more about the game than AS (pundits/explayers/current players) have all said he is a quality manager and can go a long way in the game.

    He had a win percentage of 55% higher than anyone since Keegan’s first reign. He had us in 11th place and on 19 pts, considering 99% of fans were happy with survival in our first season back that was ahead of expectation.

    I’d trust those facts before I trust Alan Sugar.

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  • Toontastico

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #6

    Mag999 – Granted they were at Spurs for 10 years together but Alan Sugar is hardly an authority when it comes to football!!! CH really grew into the no.1 spot in the last 18 months and you could see how his confidence etc and media handling were becoming 2nd nature.
    I reckon he will get a championship job fairly easily tbh.
    In relation to the replacement it has to be a Martin cause if its an Alan were fooked!!!

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  • magfly

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #7

    Hey guys forget jol its pardew all the way jol now 3to1 drifting in the betting could be bad news.

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  • nuttyward

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:28 PM

    Comment #8

    with all due repect it doesnt matter who comes in .
    nee funds nee investment and no team spirit nuff said

    ALL TRY AND KEEP FAITH

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  • G

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #9

    If it happens it happens, but if I’m honest, I don’t think Jol would be a good choice at all? Perhaps I am wrong, and if he does get the gig, then I certainly hope I am, but when he was with the Yids, he got sussed as a one tactic man, and his record went to the dogs. From what I gather from the cloggys on F365’s forum then he is still a one-tactic man with no plan B. I will no doubt get vilified for this, but I think of all the candidates mentioned, I would go for Curbs. His football isn’t pretty, but he hasn’t exactly disgraced himself has he? He saved WHU from relegation before wrapping in, and he did a decent job at Charlton prior to that. I just don’t think the fans would take to his style, and I would like to think we could still attract a bigger name to the gig.

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  • magpie999

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #10

    couldn’t agree with you more nuttyward

    exactly what i’ve been saying

    doesn’t mater who comes in

    Unless my new years resolution comes true and Mike Ashley drops down dead and leaves the club to the newcastle fans we’ll never do anything

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  • DarloGeordie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #11

    Wishing death on someone is a little extreme 999 maybe just a painful helicopter crash to knock some sense into the man to cough up n realise that if your pushing for a top half finish then you need give more than 5 mil to progress and further the club.

    We have the fan base

    We have the stadium

    We have a good enough team

    Directors and Management is the only thing questionable

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  • magpie999

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #12

    No i don’t think it is.

    Ashley has systematicly destroyed my desire to go to the games any more.

    I would be more than happy to run over the fat b’stards head in my car and then reverse over him just to make sure he was completely done in.

    I don’t think I could possibly hate anyone on the planet more.

    He is a cancer of this club and the sooner he is cut out and burnt the better as far as i’m concerned

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  • DarloGeordie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #13

    Haha loving the commitment to the club but what else can we do to get rid??

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  • magpie999

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #14

    by the way Jesus was a c#nt

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  • Edd Case

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #15

    Well it wont be Shearer, he’s publicly ruled himself out.
    Yipee.

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  • stevep

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #16

    Martin Jol has ruled himself out of toon job due to his friendship with Hughton, he’s in the frame for Hamburg job
    Pardew is nailed on according to reports – a complete disaster for the toon

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  • magpie999

    Dec 7, 2010 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #17

    because it took shearer to say i’m out before you knew that one???

    club statement “hughton sacked, we want a manager with more experience”

    So Alan would you and your 12 games of Premier League managerial experience like the job.no brainer that one

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  • Shot Bru

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:00 PM

    Comment #18

    stevep that’s not unexpected news but neverthless we are doomed if Pardew takes over…surely Beardsley and Stone would be a much finer option than Pardew.

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  • Shot Bru

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #19

    stevep if that is true well done Martin Jol!

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  • vic

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #20

    Be realistic guys. Martin Jol would be too expencive for MA. We are in a shit…

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  • StevieGee

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #21

    Ed, I think the other 18% voting in the poll may have been choosing other because they dont want anyone else than Hughton.

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  • magfly

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:09 PM

    Comment #22

    Alan pardew its a cert for toon post we have to give the guy our support cause ashley wont.

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  • GeordieToon89

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #23

    pardew is said to be confident he will be handed a chance to takeover at newcastle.. ive read also the new manager will be to a long term contract

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  • magfly

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #24

    Long term in ashleys world is 6 months.

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  • Edd Case

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #25

    Geez man, if it isnt Jol, Id sooner have Hoddle than Pardew FFS.

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  • Whitecap

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #26

    Martin Jol is out. Says his agent Mino Raiola. Purely out of respect for Chris Hughton.

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  • Whitecap

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:23 PM

    Comment #27
  • SirAlan

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:27 PM

    Comment #28

    ED banger….just thought someone should tell you a few home truths,You really must be a Mackem the way you go around Backstabbing any person that has done NEWCASTLE UNITED proud…Keegan, Shearer and now Hughton….shame on you

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  • Shot Bru

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #29

    For all those muppets that came on here today happy with the fact that Ashley got rid of CH because of alleged poor results, poor tactics and poor buys in the transfer market …i hope you enjoy Alan Pardew…

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  • CT

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:34 PM

    Comment #30

    PARdew in, that`s me finished, told on previous threads he`s ASH`s mate and met 10 days ago.

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  • balubas1

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #31

    pardew would be a disaster… I would welcome Jol ahead of him. Definatley my nr.1 pick.

    Jol would bring with him valuable experience and also contacts in many European clubs, and also knowledge about whats going on in the Ajax Academy at the moment.

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  • magpie999

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #32

    Shot Bru

    IT DOESN’T MATTER

    Chris Hughton, Alan Pardew, Alan Shearer, Jos Mourinho, Alex Ferguson….as long as Ashley runs the show it matters not

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  • marlonisourking

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:40 PM

    Comment #33

    So let me get this straight, it’s between the two Alans (besides Shearer) and the two Martins…

    Ashley’s that much of a joke that I wouldn’t be surprised to see one of the two Ronnies take the reins!

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  • GeordieGerman

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #34

    Heard something about the new manager getting 20 million to spend in Jan. Now where’s that coming from? What is Andy worth again?

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  • pearceet

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #35

    It WILL be Pardew. I will put money on it

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  • alex84

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #36

    if its pardew then i have lost all hope!!

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  • GeordieGerman

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #37

    Heard something about the new manager getting 20 million to spend in Jan. Now where’s that coming from? What is Andy worth again?

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  • hitman

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:47 PM

    Comment #38

    so jol not interested,so it looks like pardew,this is fkin madness the sooner this fat slug sells up the better…we will go back down under pardew..fkin disgrace, how people could back ashley(you know who yous are) the man is the biggest problem at our club..

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  • magpie999

    Dec 7, 2010 at 8:47 PM

    Comment #39

    Pardew

    But Ashley won’t put any money on it.

    Its been done to insight a players revolt just before January.

    Come on lads whats the odds, Pardew in, Carol, Enrique and Tiote to Spurs…….help AShleys true love at a title tilt.

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