Newcastle Squad Now In Danger Of Being Broken Up

It’s the first time for almost 16 months that the press had been able to get a huge embarrassing story out of Newcastle United.

Mike Ashley – what’s he thinking now? (not much)

And that’s because the man who had started to make Newcastle a respectable club, and was starting to get admirers of the club once again, was brutally sacked by a clueless owner,  Mike Ashley.

A measure of intelligence is how quickly you can learn things – take things in – and how quickly you can learn from the mistakes you have made.

With that yardstick Mike Ashley is not a very intelligent man – but he must surely see that today is looking like it did  when he sacked Kevin Keegan over two years ago,  and all hell was let loose on Tyneside.

We had hoped that Mike had learned from his many past mistakes on Tyneside,  but stories coming out of the club are that he has gone way overboard with his cost-cutting measures,  and the players are not particularly  happy at things.

But we also have to be wary of the press making things look so much worse than they actually are, as they’ve done so many times in the past.

But there’s no doubt that the players are upset, and they are a close knit group, but it could be that the new manager will start to wheel and deal in January, and if money is not available, then the new manager may sell one or two of his players.

To say we will sell Andy Carroll is criminal, but we also know the Gateshead sensation is  very upset at the treatment of Chris Hughton yesterday – the man who became his mentor at the club and has brought him through the ranks in expert style.

We don’t want our players to make things worse than they already are – we have never believed that staying away from St. James’ Park does any good at all, and we have to think that whatever new manager is brought in – he must be a good man-manager – because he’s going to have a bunch of dissatisfied and angry players on his hands.

We don’t think we’ll lose Andy Carroll, surely Mike Ashley is not that stupid, but we do think players like Kevin Nolan, Alan Smith and Joey Barton and some others, could be on their bikes, and we wonder what a certain Hatem Ben Arfa thinks of this latest fiasco?

As we said – we had hoped that Mike Ashley had learned from the past – but it doesn’t look that way.

And if you don’t learn from your mistakes in life then history usually repeats itself – until you do eventually learn.

Isn’t that happening on Tyneside now with our owner?

We are absolutely crushed by what Mike Ashley did yesterday – because we grew to love Chris Hughton and what he had achieved on Tyneside. against all the odds – and it now turns out against Mike Ashley too.

29 comments so far

  • North Atlantic Magpie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #1

    Oh, stop it!!!

  • Edd Case

    Dec 7, 2010 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #2

    Oh for Christ sake Ed, not ANOTHER thread.

    HOW exactly do you know the squad will be broken up?

    And WHY would you assume it’ll be our so-called better palyers that will leave?

    Andy Carroll has already said via his twitter acount that he will stay.

    To be honest, I don’t much care for many of our current playing staff, so if a new guy comes in and wants to rid us of even palyers such as Jonas, Nolan, Smith, Shola, Loven, Taylor (both) and even Harps, I’d be ok with that.

    I will only agree with slagging off Ashley (again) IF he fails to bring in the very obvious choice of Jol (or another Dutchman like Rijkaard, Koeman or even Guillit).

    This is another chance for Ashley to show the Geordie Nation that he shares our ambition.

    Only he can cock it up – or realise the dream.

    For now though, let’s stop getting carried away, please.

  • GeordieGerman

    Dec 7, 2010 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #3

    We are knackered on Saturday. Beardsley as manager and Andy as translator. Knackered absolutely knackered.

  • listie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #4

    Fine by me,


    I have no problems with that at all

  • Norwegian_geordie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #5

    ED!!! For the first time ever I have to say you need to stop it!

    More posts will only make feelings worse and discussions are getting lost in the posts.

    Please ED not right now!

  • ash1001

    Dec 7, 2010 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #6

    Simple question- if Alladyce had been manager and we had only taken 2 point s from the last 15, would we be after his head – think we may well have been.
    The players if they were behind Hughton have to take a lot of responsibility for some very poor individual performances.- against teams we may have expected to get something from.
    We cannot live the rest of the season on the Sunderland and Arsenal results, but would still thank Hughton for everything he has done.

  • Toon Sweden77

    Dec 7, 2010 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #7

    Hope Hughton knows he had the support from us fans and he will always be remembered for the god things he did for us.

    Have you voted for the new manager?

    Pardew shouldnt even be mentioned for this position!! I voted “other” and typed, Ottmar Hitzfeld.

  • expatgeordie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #8

    While I agree the timing of the sacking of Chris Hughton was wrong I think everyone is getting a bit hysterical. The way the press are reacting it would seem that he was the best manager in the country. Looking at the stats his record of wins % is very good but most of those were achieved in what was a very poor championship. His record in the PL was patchy some fantastic results Arsenal, Sunderland, Everton, Chelsea & Villa, but we had some real howlers Blackpool, Stoke, Balckburn, Bolton and last weekend we were absolutely awful against a very ordinary West brom. I for one was more upset when we Keegan left (both times) and when Sir Bobby was sacked. Lets wait and see who comes in mind if its Pardew then I will be very, very upset beacuse that would be a backward step. Either of the Martins would do me.

  • GeordieGerman

    Dec 7, 2010 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #9

    I think Chris will very soon have a new job, maybe in the championship, and will be able to coax a few of our players away. He’ll come back to haunt us. Mark my words.

  • bosamuelson

    Dec 7, 2010 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #10

    First time post for a while.

    I have to say a lot of people on here during the ‘poor’ performances were saying “Houghton = nice guy, but tactically clueless.” and I would have to agree with them. Now he gets sacked it is a travesty.

    Your right it is not nice, it never is getting the sack but he was on a rolling contract purely for this reason. What would have happened if our start was lucky and we only got another 10 points all season, recent form it may have happened. But off the back of our good start, houghton got a all new glitzy contract. Come February in relegation zone and not looking to pretty.

    Everyone would have wanted Houghton out.

    Now what if, Houghton had actually known all along this was going to happen. He was playing humble because he was trying to persuade MA for a contract. No assistant, no new Jan signings, etc. you would have to be thick if you thought you were still going to have a job the following year.

    Facts: Houghton is not tactically minded, but an excellent manager. Top 10 teams need both, or a lot of luck.

    It is easier to get players up for hard matches e.g. Arsenal. Than it is to win against teams that have tried and tested methods for beating ‘better’ sides e.g. Bolton.

    I actually think Edd Case is 100% correct. If this is a cold water ‘get out’ ah shit we need a new manager, then MA deserves all he gets.

    I have to say I think it is more of a case of, right CH has taken as far as he can Mid/lower table, no financial ties to him, timing is perfect, New manager to get used to squad bring in a player or two in Jan. and develop the squad after this season to turn it into a Mid. table/European side.

    I don’t think it is bad, sorry!

  • chris6033

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #11

    Ashley woud sack CH without a good reason, look what happened last time KK, he just wouldn’t do it.
    i feel for hoots, dont get me wrong, but if anyone doesnt perform, its inevitable they will get the boot. thats the football world we live in. move on now, he has gone, get behind the new manager once he is appointed and take it from there.
    If the guy ashley installs starts well, all will be forgotten.
    I think ashley actually cares about his club, if things stayed as they were, we were going down. simple. ashley couldn’t let the club do that, so he had to act.

  • chris6033

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #12

    **Wouldn’t sack**– sorry!

  • NOVA2967

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #13

    Well Ashley had better put some money where his mouth is come January.

    Thats the only way I can see it. I dont believe he would take this risk with out having a big plan.

    I am all for JOL. Hope its him.

    Just wish Hughton the best of luck.

    Hope the fans dont revolt yet…
    Lets see MA plans with the new manager because it has to be good. It just has to be.

  • Toonkistan

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #14

    can we go and get moyes and offer him a new challenge in life and managing toon is one hell of a challenge…but i doubt fat boy will pay the compensation :$ gutted with Chris leaving…get Martin Jol he will play good attacking football …

  • toongoat

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #15

    has ray houghton been sacked as well!!

  • hitman

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #16

    this club will go nowhere under this fat slug

  • Dude

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #17

    So the new manager pulls off a masterstroke and sells Coloccini, Enrique, Tiote and Carroll ? Those players are going to be untouchable. Players who’d better beware are Perch, Best, Xisco, Smith, Routledge. Would we survive without them ? I’m kind of thinking we will. Nothing against Hughton and sacking him wouldn’t have been my decision, but maybe there is some method in the madness. Ashley seems to have learnt a bit since relegation.

  • stevep

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #18

    Ed – calm down man, am sure the players will be upset but this is par for the course as a footballer – thats why they’re called professionals

  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #19

    Sounds good to me


    for a start

  • listie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #20

    The bookies have suspended betting on Ian Holloway FFS.

    Hopefully means nothing, god I hope so

  • Whumpie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #21

    You know that line from Groucho Marx: “I’d never stoop so low as to join a club that would stoop so low as to have me as a member”?

    We are now in that same brown stuff: Nobody worth their salt as a human or a manager would work for someone as amoral or demonstrably ignorant as Ashley.
    There is no manager on the planet I’d rather have in place than CH; he was the reason I was starting to take pride in the club again. And YES, that goes way beyond just results, which were ahead of expectations and doing fine, thank you.
    Nothing and nobody can fix this. Frankly, if the players sat down at the starting whistle on Saturday and refused to play I’d applaud it. Screw the results; this is more important.

  • shearermania

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #22

    CALM down everyone….
    we saw 2 years ago what happens if we turn on our owner and let that be our main focus instead of cheering our boys on during the games…
    the match against Hull was a prime example of fans not to behave….it just give the players excuses not to work hard.
    and lets face it: Hoots is a genuine respectful and good man but the football was dour and just long balls without any idea –

  • neeraj

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #23

    @Rotanda heights

    That is 9 squad players you want to get rid off and you are seriously considering we would get replacement for these 9 players instantly…..

    And we blame Kenny Danglish :|:|

  • Whumpie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #24

    I’ve not been on this blog for a while, and the other posts have reminded me as to why. No loyalty, realism, appreciation of the bigger picture. Calling for the heads of anyone out of favour for more than 90 minutes of play, and making excuses for sacking the best manager we’ve had since Sir Bobby.
    I’m out of here.

  • ArtyH

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #25

    Goodbye and good luck to Hoots, unfortunately he was not good enough for the EPL but great in the fizzy pop league. Hope he gets a good job soon.
    Lets face it we have had some really good and bad results this term, if we had won the games we lost against the teams we expected to loose AND won the games we did against the teams we thought we would not ( do you follow? ) we would be in the top three. We should not have lost the home games we did against supposedly inferior opposition, that is where HOOTS lost his job and my sympathy. As NUFC we should NOT be shipping goals and loosing games in the manner we have this season and expect to stay up, its not possible. You would all be shouting for HOOTS head on a plate by March oe calling for SHearer to come back and resque us again…..just like last time and with the same result most likely. I hope we get Jol, and a good investment in January by M.A will dispel any bad taste over the sacking.
    I for one support NUFC not any one single individual! Come on the TOON.

  • shearermania

    Dec 7, 2010 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #26

    Whumpie . youre a fool… good would it do the club to see the players sit around refusing to play…..would you like to see us relegated again….
    wipe your eyes and have a cookie……if you look player for player we have a pretty good set of players dont tell me any of you guys rather have the squad of wolves, birmingham, west ham, wigan etc….problem is they play with fear – fear of losing…look at blackpool they have a go – the players are journeymen from mainly the fizzy and league one -but they play a great style of football – on the deck, attractive….i for one wouldnt mind Holloway as if he can do what he has done with that set of pool players i can only imagine what he can do with oursquad

  • jesus was a geordie

    Dec 7, 2010 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #27

    Whumpie, I agree with the sentiment (though can’t say I want the players to sit down). Hughton WAS the best man for the job, he DID instil pride into the squad, fanbase and club!

    We’ll look back in years to come on the 5:1, the 6:0, the 0:1 (at Arsenal) and go – Jesus, what a season that was…and the man who masterminded it has been sacked – complete disgrace, I can’t believe some of you support it!

  • geoff777

    Dec 7, 2010 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #28

    Sacking Hughton was a major error, he was growing into the position and made some great buys.
    A true gent and a credit to the club.

    The only name on the list of possible candidates with any credibility is Martin Jol.
    We have to hope its him with a decent budget.

    If it’s Pardew look for Carroll, Tiote, Barton to be sold – more asset stripping by Ashley.

    I’ll always support NUFC. The amount of time and money I spend doing so is what will change if it is Pardew and he sells the crown jewels.

  • StevieGee

    Dec 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #29

    If Pardew is hired we’re f*ck3d…

    Full Stop! League 1 manager if that…


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