One thing we really liked about Chris Hughton as Newcastle manager, was that he never made any excuses for poor performances
Alan Pardew – should cut out the excuses right now
Listen to this list of excuses from Newcastle manager Alan Pardew – you would think the lads had a run a marathon each day for the last couple of weeks.
And we don’t think Pardew even fully realizes this is one of the worst days in Newcastle’s history in the FA Cup – he doesn’t seem to get it – not yet anyway.
Football players today get paid upwards of £50K a week to play more than one game a week – so this nonsense that they were tired and worn out – doesn’t play at all with us – not one little bit.
Start having the lads run 10 miles a day – they should be fitter then.
We don’t think these reasons ( translation – excuses) for Newcastle’s disgraceful performance this afternoon ring true at all – and it would have been better if Alan hadn’t said anything. if this is all he had to say.
After all – the other Premier League sides have gone through the same schedule and no other (read that as none) were beaten this afternoon by a fourth division side in the FA Cup.
And we understand that every single PL team turned up for their games this afternoon – except Newcastle of course.
We don’t think Alan yet knows just how bad and disgraceful this defeat is being taken by the Newcastle fans.
We can tolerate a Newcastle team being beaten by a better side- but not when they are both outplayed and outfought – by a 4th division side, whose players are on two and sixpence a week – and that’s what their good players make.
It’s simply not good enough when you play for Newcastle.
Get on board Alan – and make it very quick – and a little hint – cut out the excuses in the future.
160 comments so far
Toonarmy1993
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:17 PM
Comment #11st
GeordieGerman
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:28 PM
Comment #2Howay Ed other teams have more depth and can pick and choose who they play against whom. We (Newcastle) don’t have that luxury and have to play the same team week in week out. Of course they are knackered. A 10 mile run everyday wouldn’t help either, they’d just be more knackered.
ochytoon
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:29 PM
Comment #3Yh tbh Ed they have played 3 games in a week. I think you’d be tired
Davidexdx
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:36 PM
Comment #4Mr Pardrew instead of wasting your breath on pathetic excusses that everyone (apart from you and players believe) know is BS, reinburse the toon faithful that came to watch that S**t!!!
tjshawsey
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:36 PM
Comment #5I don’t want to make excuses, but I have to agree with the other posters. Firstly I would again like to say Stevenage deserved their win. They outplayed us and as Pardew said “They were all over us”. But the games have really hit us hard, and tiredness aswell as injuries have hit badly. But lets regroup, freshen up, and beat those Mackems! HTL’s!
tdt
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:37 PM
Comment #6should have used the kids. end of.
Geordie-Gerrard7
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:39 PM
Comment #7Right- as I was with soton and before that Plymouth I grew up with quite a few of the youngsters in today’s game, I played for plymouth and England c team with scott laird the Stevenage full back, and I actually got to speak to him after the game, it was him who got knocked to the floor by a STEVENAGE fan, just because he wouldn’t give him his match shirt, lairdy has a swollen eye and suspected broken nose, I hope the fan gets banned from football games for life. THUG. And to be honest in general, there whole fans and stewards were (unts
davybtoon
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:39 PM
Comment #8of course there tired u cud see it they shocking, but not every player can have that excuse ie williamson, perch, routledge, best, smith n lovenkrands hav all hardly played they were jus poor full stop
tjshawsey
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:39 PM
Comment #9Agreed tdt. Aswell as being fresher I should imagine they would have more hunger, and be used to playing on the so called ‘smaller stage’.
davybtoon
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:41 PM
Comment #10and if he had played the kids ppl wudof been moaning he didnt play a strong enough team
JWatson
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:42 PM
Comment #11Tired players and bad tactics. Sure Pardew can’t make excuses but it wasn’t all his fault. It was just a terrible day for the north east in general. At least Sunderland lost at home.
tdt
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:44 PM
Comment #12I loved that CH used the kids for cup games, as it: a) gives them a chance to shine, and b) gives the 1st team a rest. Youngsters would have been more keen to prove themselves and therefore try harder.
tjshawsey
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:44 PM
Comment #13G-G7,
Its absolutely shocking. The lad has played a blinder, won the match of his life and should be celebrating into the night. Instead he could well be spending it in A&E.
GeordieGerman
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:45 PM
Comment #14tdt, and if he had done that and we had also lost. Who would have got the blame? It’s like the Manager of Stevenage said before the game. They have the advantage. Newcastle fields kids and they have the experience, Newcastle field their best team when they see the ground, half will think. “What am I doing here”? And dead honest, I think a few of them played so. Pardew is not to blame, he was also disgusted.
mcdine
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:45 PM
Comment #15getting paid thousands of pounds a week and your saying they are tired from playing 1-2 games in a week? give over.
jj
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:48 PM
Comment #16Sky Sports are calling Tiotes tackle a “reckless two footed tackle” WTF were they watching the same game??
Im not one of those ppl that slag off team selection after a defeat and slag off the players that played shit but i really wish he wud have played a solid centre of Willo and Collo with Smith and Nolan in the middle of the park, played Perch on the right cos and Kadar left then dropped Ferguson on the wing with routledge so wed have a solid centre and a young pacey flanks, having said that you looked at the line up and thought wed be 2 up by half time and then rest Joey, Kev and Simmo……
Im sure Tiote will have his card overturned and Big andy will be back too….fingers crossed
davybtoon
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:48 PM
Comment #17think we need a couple of new signings to freshin things up
tdt
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:49 PM
Comment #18I dont think we can assume we would have lost in that case. It would have been a totally different team playing completely differently. Also, it would not be nearly as depressing if we did loss with the kids, ie trying to promote the future of the club.
tjshawsey
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:51 PM
Comment #19jj,
I have also read the SSN report and it sounds as though it has been written by a stevenage fan. Once again, i’m not having a dig, there were deserved winners. But some of the words used by SSN did have a certain biased, although I suppose thats because of the upset.
geordieforeva
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:52 PM
Comment #20Forget the excuses, Alan’s got the club’s direction completely wrong. We need SURVIVAL this season. Heck if that comes with a 7th place finish or a 17th place finish, we ll take it. So, when the FA Cup and CC come along, you breed your talent. How do we figure Nile Ranger and Shane Fergie are pushing 1st team.
So, its simple. Alan got sucked into his West Ham cup run and risked our 1st teamers against a lower league opposition. What would have happened if JB had got injured or punched some stevenage player. Why should we lose our good players like JB, Nolan and Tiote to fatigue and red cards?
Get it right Alan coz without Tiote our midfield now lacks bite when we need it most – against mackems and spurs. Please dont bring in Smudgey coz he was softer than a daschund pup today.
Hope the embarassment spurs us on coz Sunderland will come all guns blazing as they got mauled by us last time and also got beaten by the other Magpies today!
davybtoon
Jan 8, 2011 at 10:53 PM
Comment #21as long as we play well n beat the scum couldnt care less bout this game, derby games are huge as it is but with both teams putting in humilating performances n scum wanting payback for 5-1 it shud b hell of match next week
GeordieGerman
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:00 PM
Comment #22Some of us said that the FA cup wasn’t important others said it was. Pardew said he would play his strongest team, which (excepting injuries) he did (can’t call him a liar). What I think is now happening is Llambias and Pardew will now be having a very long night, as even Ashley will have seen we have no depth.
ash1001
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:03 PM
Comment #23Tired my backside, they are professionals for god sake, they should know how ro train and recover, and like others have said not all of them had played every game over the holidays. Crunch of it all is that we were not good enough on every aspect of the game.
Ask the guys that had to play the 30 + sets at Wimbledon and then come out the next day, hes probably got an excuse for been tired.
All the Media were hoping for a Newcastle defeat and those players on the park gave it them on a plate, but we the fans have to live with it for years now, thank you for nothing
shaun83
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:04 PM
Comment #24Sunderland losing at home was just as bad. Ed – this is article is a bit childish, sensationalist and far too emotional. Get your hurting and yes the performance was crap but this this isn’t written on reflection or thought through. Don’t usualyy have a pop but this is a bit much!
Toon XI
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:05 PM
Comment #25Geordieforeva –
I couldn’t agree more. Pardew’s selfish desire to see a deep FA Cup run took precedence over commonsense. My god, just looking at the condition of the pitch would have scared me off from playing first team regulars for fear of injury. Then to bring on Tiote when he is carrying a tweaked hamstring in a match that was clearly lost is a form of management malpractice.
Today was a shambles on many levels. My blood is still boiling.
fergie
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:09 PM
Comment #26Match Ratings:
http://toonbarmy.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/stevenage-3-1-newcastle-even-stevens/
Spuggy
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:09 PM
Comment #27I couldn’t care less about this game either. It’s a meaningless game, we’re never gonna win the FA cup, we’re trying not to get relegated remember.
The team IS knackered I thought that from the off, I like how Hughton played the hungry youngsters against lesser teams and for me that’s what Pardew should have done today.
Humiliating, not at all, well done Stevenage, good to see them play with guts and heart and get their reward. We should be sportsman like and give them credit where it’s due.
I am actually pleased we’re out the cup, as it’s a distraction to our main objective. Remain in the PL and build.
I for one don’t give a monkeys that we didn’t win, Pardew maybe should have rested key players, but so what, he picks the team, he tried to win and it didn’t work
Tiote missing 3 games is a huge blow like. So hoping we can appeal and be successful, but if not we’ll forage on.
Spuggy
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:10 PM
Comment #28And Ed, I’m usually a huge supporter of you and your blog. But you last few articles following the defeat have been a little OTT in my opinion.
Chill out. Everything will be fine, especially if we can buy a good quality player soon.
shaun83
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:10 PM
Comment #29not a fan of that westley whatsoever, he’s really been grating me, before and after the game
GeordieGerman
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Comment #30Hey, did we win a trophy today?
shaun83
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Comment #31Spuggy, completely agree with both your comments!
stuart no9
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:13 PM
Comment #32typical pards , arrogant, blameless, and thinks everything he says we will believe , well sorry mr pardew, you are not at west ham or southampton now , you are newcastle(unfortunatly)that display was all your doing, TIRED? your having a laugh , stop trying to push the blame away from your door (something CHwould never do) your negative thoughts leading up to this game were paramount, your body lanquage througout yhe whole game did not go unoticed,not once did you encourage, but stand there looking stupid, and why? because you didnt have a clu what to do your INFLUENTUELL NON VERBALLS, spoke volumes, of which the players picked up on, it is a disgrace you blame the players for that shambles, it will not be long before people see you for what you are, a total disaster, it cant come soon enough
thud and blunder
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:14 PM
Comment #33at the end of the day, we would NEVER have won the FA Cup, so even if we had beat Stevenage tonight we would have just got beat at a later stage. Whats the point of going on a run in the cup only to be beat in the semi’s by Man Utd etc…
Lets put all our efforts into the Premier League, starting Sunday!!
Szarka
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:17 PM
Comment #34Should have played the kids, and wouldnt be any problem. If they loose, then its their fault, but anyway those kids showed in tha Carling Cup, that they can handle clubs from lower leauges. Sending out unrested players is the managers mistake. Also if the team isnt motivated, its the managers fault.
NorthernTiger74
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:18 PM
Comment #35What a disgrace! You can’t put our your best team and then expect a performance like that. Personally if he thought they were tired he should have put in some youngsters. Like I said before Pardew is STILL on trial here and in many eyes he has still to convince. I wouldn’t have forgiven him if a number of the 1st team pick up knocks for the big one next week.
NUFC2010
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:21 PM
Comment #36Ed, what an absolute crock your two articles on this game are.
CH was actually the king of making excuses for poor performances – every one of his interviews went something like “We came up against a very good side who are well-organised and worked hard blah blah blah…”. I never once heard him come out and apologise for a poor performance and admit it wasn’t good enough. So get your head out of your back side and your tongue out of CH’s.
GeordieGerman
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:21 PM
Comment #37Szarka, Nolan also said it was important to get into Europe using the back door ie the FA cup. Pity he wasn’t there today… !
vic
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:23 PM
Comment #38Humiliation was not surprise as we played without BOTH FLANKS and without CM.
1. Routledge was terrible as usual. No desent cross, can not keep the ball. We simply do not have right winger (except when Barton is covering RM).
2. We did not have left flank at all. There is no comparison between Enrique-Gutierres performance and Perch-Barton (Both were out of positions) – Thanks to Pardew.
3. Any game with Smith as a CM was suicidal. Not surprise that it happened again. We can not blame Nolan for his poor performance as he usually performs well when we have dicent wingers (unfortunately not last night – thanks to Pardew).
4. Does not matter who would play up front – Carroll, Ranger or even Shearer – nobody would score if we play WITHOUT WINGERS and WITHOUT CMs – Thanks to Pardew for this mess.
5. Perch on LD site was rediculous – Thanks to Pardew (Young Ferguson is more solid on LD as well as on Left Wing – he able to cover for both – Enrique and Jonas – no doubt about this).
RATING:
Pardew -2
Colllo, Barton – 6
All others- 4-5
Message to AP:
Please do not play again Smith, Routledge and Perch – otherwise we will not able to sell them
SUMMARY: Thanks to Pardew
Spuggy
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:24 PM
Comment #39How was Pardew making excuses Ed? He played his strongest side, and if they were not tired as you suggest, surely we would have won. Your logic is unsound here I’m afraid.
Have you ever run solid for 90 mins and travelled across the country, believe me it is tiring, especially 6 times in a row in a short period of time. So when managers rest their best player’s they’re making it up?
What’s wrong with people. For me, Pardew made a small mistake, he played our regular players who could have done with a break, for the younger team – which still could have lost – so what. It didn’t work out.
GeordieGerman
Jan 8, 2011 at 11:26 PM
Comment #40NUFC2010, Standing ovation.
NorthernTiger74, Last week I said if we got 4 – 6 points in the next 2 games, I would accept Pardew as manager. We did it, 6 points, I don’t go back on my word.