The news from Newcastle in the transfer market today, is that the fans shouldn’t expect anything to be done until the last day of the transfer window, and maybe late in the day too.
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That’s next Monday and the window closes at 11:00 pm and there is still a decent chance that Newcastle could get two players in.
And the likelihood is that they could come from some of the bigger clubs, who have massive wage bills, like Manchester City and Aston Villa, as two good examples.
The Financial Fair Play rules will be introduced by UEFA next season, and basically what they say is that European football clubs have to balance their financial books, and can only buy players from the money the club actually generates.
If any club doesn’t do this, they will be barred from participating in European competition.
There will no longer be Billionaires coming into clubs, and spending hundred of millions of pounds, over a couple of years, literally buying a new team, which has been seen at Chelsea and Manchester City over the last eight years.
Where’s the competition in that?
The biggest expense to football clubs by far are the wages they pay out to their players, and currently there are some clubs in the PL, whose wage bills exceed their revenue, which is astonishing, to say the least.
So when it comes to say 6:00pm next Monday night, the Manchester City hierarchy, as just one example, will need to reassess if they will still continue to ask clubs taking their players on loan, to pay their full wages.
It’s a good deal is they can get it, but we very much doubt they will continue to insist on that, it if it means the player stays with them.
If the clubs don’t ship the player out, they will be left with their full wages still on the books, and the players they are trying to sell are fringe players, who rarely ever get a game.
So these clubs will need to sell the player or send them out on loan or sell them this summer, to meet the Financial Fair Play rules next season.
It will help if the players are shipped out on loan in January, as the clubs taking them could do the full transfer in the summer.
Newcastle are holding off on Stephen Ireland, because it’s obvious Aston Villa boss Gerrard Houllier will not play him again at Villa, and then the Midlands club will have to pay out Stephen’s huge £65K/week wages, and get nothing in return – which is hardly good business.
Newcastle have proved over the last 18 months they can make some good deals in the transfer market, so we’d be surprised if at least one and maybe two players don’t arrive at the club by the end of the window.
But we will likely have to wait until late Monday night for those deals to be executed – because that’s when push comes to shove.
It could even be a long night on Monday.
Comments welcome.
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52 responses so far ↓
1 Nufc4Ever // Jan 28, 2011 at 10:47 AM
I really hope we can get someone in. hopefully a striker because when you look at it, Løvenkrands is not good enough for pl and shola can`t even hit the goal! I think someone like Oba would be great and I would hate to see him end up in Birmingham!
2 carrollsinger // Jan 28, 2011 at 10:49 AM
Even one player would be a boost for everyone
3 expatgeordie // Jan 28, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Don’t hold your breath
4 ogbell // Jan 28, 2011 at 10:52 AM
We will not sign anyone… Chris Hughton came out very early in August and September and said there would be no activity. Why is the Fat Controller going to change his mind when we are 10 points from safety?! The worst thing that has happened to us in terms of arrivals is Best scoring that bloody hat-trick, and Shola playing well at Wigan. I will genuinely be flabbergasted if we recruit anyone – whether it’s Ireland, SWP, Mutu or Cameronesi. That said, I hope I am wrong!!!!!!
5 Mat Nufc // Jan 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM
As much as we always wish for signings during transfer window, if price is too much, loan deals would be good enough for me rather than buying players for the sake of pleasing fans.
Vela of Arsenal..why aren’t we after him? I think he would be a good strike partner for Carroll or Best..
6 Stuart // Jan 28, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Ogbell,
Why would Ashley change his mind? For one, he never really wanted Chris Hughton as manager and didnt really trust him.
He’s now hired his man, and on a very long contract. So hes going to want to show that hes backing Pardew.
Everyone seems to forget we’ve already spent £6m on HBA this window so far aswell.
I think newcastle are getting very smart in their transfer dealings and we arent getting taken for a mug anymore.
I fully expect to have two new faces in by Tuesday.
7 Davies // Jan 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM
Nufc4Ever – Shola’s hit the goal four times in the EPL this season (7 in all competitions). That’s more than a hell of a lot of other players in the league. What’s the problem?
8 jimmyxavi // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:01 AM
I like the “And the likelihood is that they could come from some of the bigger clubs, who have massive wage bills, like Manchester City and Aston Villa, as two good examples.”
Villa a bigger club than Newcastle…. Somehow I can’t see that being true – Fanbase, Owners Wealth, History, Stadium, Revenue and league Position all back my statment up!!!
That was a bad shout by yourself!
9 wynsleap // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:02 AM
If the Houllier/Ireland scenario is as cut and dried as you seem to think Ed why is it going to the wire on Monday?
I think it’s about time we had a one day window – now that would be fun!
10 Stuart // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Haha, class idea wynsleap!
That way I wouldnt have to sit at a computer for 1 month straight waiting for signings!
11 repo // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM
We wont sign anybody Fact
And i heard last night Carrol could be out for the rest of the season as he needs a op..
12 TheHeyman // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:04 AM
Avoid disapointment, expect no signings and any business we do will be a bonus. I have had my expectations well and truly managed by the current owners so with this kind of thinking, it helps stop the anger and frustration one can feel during transfer Windows.
13 BiffBaffBoff // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:05 AM
Birmingham City have signed Obafemi Martins on loan for the rest of the season. Full story to follow…
14 Rotonda heights // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:15 AM
Heyman,
It won’t be a bonus if it’s Puncheon, he’s just another perch / best level of player.
15 Rotonda heights // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:17 AM
martins was a bit of a headless chicken but he did have that thing we desperately lack – pace. Should have given routledge a shot at playing as striker, wher ehe could sue his pace and not worry about putting in hit and hope crosses.
16 Spuggy // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:20 AM
@heyman
Totally agree, we may not sign anyone. Pardew had said loads of times that we need the RIGHT players with the right ATTITUDE, and at the right PRICE.
If we don’t find any, lets not be duped by some mercenary club looking to palm off semi-decent players for inflated prices.
One thing is for sure the BEST signing we made this window – whomever we bring in – has been made already – HATEM BEN AFRA.
Simples.
17 Spuggy // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM
*ARFA
18 Edd Case // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Its all very well saying HBA is the best signing of the window but that’s only on paper.
On the pitch, at this current time, he’s not able to have any impact.
What I (and I think a lot of others think too) believe, is that we need another signing who’s not injured and can make an immediate impact.
19 Spuggy // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:28 AM
@Edd Case
I never said we don’t need players (as we’re wafer thin). I said we need the right players for this setup who are gonna compliment the spirit – if we can’t find them then you can’t say they haven’t tried in a very unstable window.
And my main point still remains – HBA will be the best signing we make this window, I didn’t say it should be the only one?!
20 dublin mag steve // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:29 AM
what about michael johnson bit of a forgoten man would be better option than stephen ireland still i wouldlike a pacey right winger and we need something a bit different up front would love to see podolski here blinding pace and he can finish.
21 Markaccus // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM
@ repo where have you seen this ‘fact’ as I haven’t spotted it anywhere yet, and I’ve been on a few site the last few days?
The negativity is creeping back in to some of these comments.
Wonder if that Mutu link is a short term cover for carrol. I’m sure he can still knock a few goals in
22 NUFC_Richyg01 // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:33 AM
Brum have signed Martins on loan for the rest of the season!
Never saw that one coming!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6706293,00.html
23 NUFC_Richyg01 // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Smoggies want Xisco on loan.
Now we can’t all drive him down, so who is gonna be the des driver??
24 Spuggy // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:36 AM
Oba and Bentley….hmmmmm
25 gorskino10 // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:37 AM
strange you would of thought ON LOAN we would be interesed? obviouslly not it seems like our board are like College Student raiding the discount aisle, they will only buy something if its a big discount or a bargain. i somewhat agree sometimes you need to look for bargins but then again we have missed out of a few like Hammil at 500k thats like paying Irelands wages for less than a month 9shows how overated or how high Ireland is, would be a waste of space if we got him in)
26 NUFC_Richyg01 // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:39 AM
@ gorskino10 // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Apparently he turned down West Brom to go to Brum, so I can only think that they were the only 2 sides in for him?!
27 Nufc4Ever // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:41 AM
That is just weird! we could have gotten that deal easily if we just bothered! he would never have chosen Birmingham over us!!
28 Edd Case // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:45 AM
Martins was a slightly better but much quicker version of Shola.
I dread the thought of going back for players like him, Given, Duff and so on…
All players that got us in the poop in the first place and then jumped ship when things went really wrong.
There must be a player that fits the bill somewhere that we can get on board?!
29 Angryman the Angry fan // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM
Fellas, ( and odd female here n there) do we really need anyone?
When the injuries start to clear up I think our teams good enough to achieve our main goal this season.
EPL survival.
We all know cashleys history, and I know we can all live in hope, but 6 mths ago ld wager my house and car that we’d all have taken where we are now at this stage of the season as a bit of an overachievement, and it’s our current team, injuries included who got us there!!
30 Markaccus // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:47 AM
A bit inconsistent, but whe Martins got it right, he was deadly. I liked him in a toon shirt. He’s still quite young, if he’s out of favour at his club, then it could be worth seeing if we could grab him back in the summer
31 carrollsinger // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Martins to brum WTF
32 superclivemendonca // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM
ogbel @ 4 and the rest of you doom-mongers.
I find it unbelievable that you a “fan” of NUFC wish that one of our strikers had not scored a hatrick. You have made your mind up that Leon Best is not good enough before he set foot on the pitch, your opinion is probably based on deep research on FIFA 07, Football manager Pro and anyother toy that lets you “play football” from your bedroom between sips of coke and bags of crsps.
As a season ticket holder I have seen all of LBs performances at SJP and, like anyone who starts a new job at anew place of work (unsure if you have ever had this experience) he started tentatively.
Just when we needed him to perform he chips in with 3 goals for us against West Ham and follows up with some great touches againsy Spurs. You probably saw him hit the bar on You Tube or something but you missed his movement, great leaps and good heading ability. To my eye he looks like he has POTENTIAL. And already a decent goals to starts ratio.
Cut this guy, and anyone else who pulls on the shirt + gives 100% some slack. I can deal with individuals not being world or EPL class but as long as they burst their lungs for the duration they are on the pitch I, or anyone else can ask no more.
Barton, Guthrie, Jonas and Nolan take a bow, against a “technically” better midfield against Spurs you dominated – mostly without the ball – great commitment.
Grow up people, support OUR TEAM.
33 superclivemendonca // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:52 AM
I thank you. Have a nice day. I make fewer typos when my piss isn’t boiling.
34 terencelim // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:52 AM
It seems that Shola is doomed to stick with the toon forever…
35 wynsleap // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Good idea for Xisco to go out on loan.
Boro could pay part or all of his wages so we could use the money saved to pay wages for an incoming purchase (or loan).
Would also give us the chance to see what the lad can do on a regular basis in this country, as he’s never really had an opportunity here to be fair – or going to get one.
If he’s great get him back for next season, if he’s crap sling him in the summer window. A no lose situation.
36 Black n whiteSi // Jan 28, 2011 at 12:24 PM
All comments about transfers waiting till Monday, think this is because we have put our offer on the table, which with cashley in charge is low, then sit it out and wait till transfer deadline. If the clubs gets desperate and have no offers may come back to our low one as last resort. Maybe this is all battering technique’s!!! I’m not totally sure just remembering how I battered for good whilst in india!?!!?! What do people think?
37 Black n whiteSi // Jan 28, 2011 at 12:26 PM
I can’t spell , supposed to say bartering nor battering lol
38 fungus44 // Jan 28, 2011 at 3:29 PM
where did you hear that then repo,as it,s no were else on the internet or on the offical site yet and untill it is no ture fan will belive it,if you do then more fool you.
39 The Leazus End // Jan 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM
sturidge on loan or vela would be decent additions ,along with a winger.
i honestly think we have the 2 signings already lined up for the deadline day
40 ASTORIA // Jan 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM
We wont sign anyone. Shame the deadline wasn’t on Sunday, Ashley And Llambias could have gone to the Quayside for a few bargains. I agree about not getting ripped off, but we need a happy medium. I still think Carroll will go also!
41 chuck // Jan 28, 2011 at 5:01 PM
Yeah , kinda agree Best has shown potential and should be given a shot, apparently Trappitoni rates him.
Then what does he know ? only been in the game for fifty years.
42 Tinman // Jan 28, 2011 at 7:17 PM
Vela would be great, Sturridge not so great. Still think a quality winger, who can beat a man and deliver a cross, should be our 1st priority, not a striker.. Not sure about any names, but old Cameronesi, Ireland and Larsson shouldnt be considered imo. SWP would be ‘ok’ but still think we could do better, probably for half the cost aswell.
Oh and finally, no signing would not be a disaster, would far rather see no activity than a panick buy (which i cant see happening these days thankfully)!
43 fungus44 // Jan 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM
y would Carroll go he,s living his child hood dream and he,s a fan born and bred ,as was shearer,he will do the same as Alan when he came home ,will not go full stop
44 Tinman // Jan 28, 2011 at 7:24 PM
I totally agree with you there Fungus, cant see him leaving at all. I know if i made it as a footballer i would play for Newcastle for less than half the wages any other club could offer, he’s still getting paid a ridiculous amount at the end of the day.. Besides, he is injured
! Oh by the way apostraphy is two keys left of ‘L’ 
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45 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 28, 2011 at 7:25 PM
Podolski is a brilliant player and if Koln can get him to play for them….. why can’t we, I’m getting a little carried away, but if we keep playing the way we are and we don’t make it into Europe we’ll be disappointed.
COME ON THE TOON!!
46 JP...from The Rock // Jan 28, 2011 at 7:41 PM
What the hell are you guys whining about!!?? I am pleased Martins is at Birmingham instead of here with us. He left us when we got relegated and he didn’t want to fight to help us come straight back up. His awful first touch and shooting accuracy helped in sending us to the Championship. Also if he came here he would have caused a major revolt in the dressing room as he was one of the players that chickened out when the going got tough and we went down. I don’t think any player in our team would want him back even if it’s only a loan spell. Martins is not good enough for us, when he was here he proved it. Let him be Birmingham’s problem now.
47 Tinman // Jan 28, 2011 at 7:49 PM
JP, spot on
48 superclivemendonca // Jan 28, 2011 at 8:32 PM
Comments 45 and 46. Spot on.
Big realisation a TEAM is greater than the sum of its parts. Team spirit multiplies the ability of each player by fraction.
Dead simple a team who gel and graft for each other for a common shared passion = an extra man.
12 men beat eleven men more often than not. Add in the St James’s factor and we could effectively be playing 13 vs 11.
13 Vs 11 = beat poor teams easily
13 Vs 11 = beat good teams more often
13 Vs 11 = Beat top teams occasionally, draw some and LOOSE some
13 Vs 11 = good seasons leading to Europe eventually.
We all play our part. Support the team.
49 JP...from The Rock // Jan 28, 2011 at 8:51 PM
Podolski here would be amazing!! That would certainly put us on the football map again. He would do wonders to our creativity and goal scoring. I thought Podolski played for one of the best teams in Europe and not an average one. If there is the slightest possibility of bringing him here (even on loan) we have to go for it. Podolski is class and in the same mold as Ben Arfa. 20x better that Routledge could ever be. I think this is all too far fetched but stranger things have happened in football. One of those strange things being Mascherano and Tevez signing for West Ham a few years back, and a certain Mr Pardew made that possible.
50 AndyMac // Jan 28, 2011 at 9:09 PM
“Newcastle Could Still Make Some Good Deals On Monday”
We’re talking Fatman (boss of Sports Direct) here, someone who knows the cost of everything but the value of nothing.
51 JP...from The Rock // Jan 28, 2011 at 9:14 PM
Nicely put AndyMac. I must admit this is one of the most frustrating transfer windows ever!! Still no movement from our behalf only the Ben Arfa deal wrapped up (great piece of business). Ben Arfa staying was more or less predicted ages ago so we need more players that can make the difference now and not in a few months time like Ben Arfa. I am worried as were risking our EPL status just for the sake of not splashing a bit of cash now.
My motto is ‘Better Safe Than Sorry’, sadly Ashley is a gambler and will never think that way.
52 ASTORIA // Jan 28, 2011 at 11:08 PM
Agree JP…good posts!
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