Did Ashley Accept Deal Or Did Andy Ask For A Transfer?


Newcastle have announced that Andy Carroll is in talks with Liverpool, after handing in a transfer request this afternoon, and the loan deal for Stephen Ireland has finally been completed.

Stephen Ireland – on a season long loan deal

Newcastle released a short statement about Stephen, saying the loan deal had been completed, after there were some earlier scares about a medical condition that could have scuttled the deal.

Maybe this is a deal that will make Newcastle manager Alan Pardew upbeat about today’s events, as he said about the signing:

“Stephen has shown over the past few seasons that he’s a real top player so we’re really pleased to have got him until the end of the season.”

“As a creative midfielder he can create chances for others and score goals himself, and we think he can be a big factor for us in the second part of this season.”

“I think Stephen feels he can deliver more than he’s shown at Villa so far, so he’s got a point to prove and I believe we can reap the benefits of that.”

And Newcastle released a statement about their 22 year-old local striker Andy Carroll, which said:

“A transfer request from striker Andy Carroll has been accepted by Newcastle United.”

“The 22-year-old England international has this afternoon handed in a transfer request, which has reluctantly been accepted by the club.”

“And Carroll is currently in talks with Liverpool over a move to Anfield. ”

What is not said in the statement is what has been widely reported, that Newcastle accepted a transfer bid of £35M from Liverpool for the Gateshead-born striker.

Players are not allowed to speak about personal terms, until a deal has first been reached between the two clubs.  But it seems true that Andy Carroll handed in a transfer request, and to say we are shocked at that, is a huge understatement.

We’ll need to understand exactly what happened with this deal, because there have been some conflicting stories coming out of Sky Sports today about the deal.   There were reports Newcastle accepted a £35M deal for the player, which was Liverpool’s second bid, but then they said the second bid had been turned down.

After that Sky Sports reported that Andy had finally requested a transfer – which seemed just a little too convenient for the Newcastle hierarchy, so exactly what did happen is still not clear to us.

Did Ashley accept the deal first or did Andy Carroll force the deal by putting in a  transfer request?

Needless to say we are shocked and sorry to see local boy Andy Carroll presumably want to leave the club, and leave in such terrible circumstances, with just hours to go in the transfer window.

We’ve got to think Alan Pardew is simply shocked and saddened at what has happened today, since he has often said Andy Carroll is the future of Newcastle.

Well –  if that’s true we don’t have a future – because the lad’s done a bunk.

We need a good night’s sleep, because this is not what we expected today – that’s for sure – and quite honestly we are still in some shock at today’s events.   Oh yes, and we have about 70 minutes left to get a new striker in, to  replace Andy.

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453 comments so far

  • ToonBry

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:01 PM

    Comment #1

    What a joke Carroll is!!

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  • ToonBry

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:02 PM

    Comment #2

    1st woop

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  • Thump

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:03 PM

    Comment #3

    Wonder what Routledge has to say about “only one going”…

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  • StuW

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:06 PM

    Comment #4

    Cannot see anything happening into toon.

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  • Thump

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #5

    Nobody is coming in, unless Ronaldo or Messi has decided they’d look cracking in the black and white.

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  • JohnNUFC

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #6

    This is confusing the hell out of me

    Why sell the ‘pool?
    Would have made more sense to sell AC to Spurs for less money and take Keane/Crouch/Pav as the makeweight.

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  • archaeomag

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:08 PM

    Comment #7

    Everybody @5live incl. Harry@Spurs says the club have been trying to flog Carroll throughout the window.
    We are always the last to find out!

    So he was pushed as much as he jumped, they have minutes left to find some cover.

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  • JohnnyBrookes

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:10 PM

    Comment #8

    F*****g hell the Scouse rats have already got a song about “Liverpool’s number 9”

    Proper sickener.

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  • Jarra

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:10 PM

    Comment #9

    So many ups and downs over the many years I have followed Newcastle United, one thing has never changed my love for the Toon.
    It is so dissapointing when a local lad who had the potential to live the dream has cashed in and followed the greed.
    Sod the money I’m proud to be a geordie and will shout even louder Howay The Lads.

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  • GAZ09

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:10 PM

    Comment #10

    Great Transfer window this has been Loan out Routledge sell Carroll and bring in out of form injured Ireland

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  • Thump

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #11

    Harry has, supposedly, spoke a lot of truth so far. He was laughing at the concept of a “transfer request” on SSN earlier and frankly I see why he is laughing. It’s an absolute disgrace – by everyone involved.

    David Craig: “And I have been asked to stress the word ‘reluctantly’ the board have accepted the transfer request”

    The man doth protest too much…

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  • Edd Case

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #12

    Doesnt the LOAN window stay open until mid Feb or something?

    I’m sure we can still loan players in after the window closes.

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  • Sawbuck

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #13

    Ashley and Llambias have been waiting at the points with a crowbar to derail the club!

    Now they have leapt on the wrecked carriages to plunder the freight!

    And the ‘good business’ brigade come running forward to tell how we have enough to stay up.

    How pitiful it all is.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #14

    Punchion just joined Blackpool

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  • JohnnyBrookes

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #15

    Thump – spot on mate.

    He said it about 50 times during the time he was explaining it. Its clearly bullshit, how about reluctantly turning it down,it was clearly not true, just a way to save face.

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  • yskel

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:13 PM

    Comment #16

    SIGHS

    Carroll just signed a new 5 year deal as part of that he would have a loyalty clause. Those clauses are written so that if the club decides to sell the player then he will get a loyalty payment (normally half the amount of wages in the remainder of their contract)

    By Handing in a transfer request Andy has saved newcastle money.

    Good Luck Andy

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  • Malaysia-RASHID

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:13 PM

    Comment #17

    hahaha…60minute to go…

    one going one coming then we all doom again, who wants to come to a mass club, ben arfa came here because shearer, tiote coz drogba told him to came, we got many manager,

    fans got nothing.

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  • leedodd

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:14 PM

    Comment #18

    Just watch Next Thing Andy Carroll Will Be Done For GBH and Locked Up as he Doesn’t have Kevin Nolan To Wipe His Bum For Him. Steve G Wont Help Him Like Kev Nolan does. Go Andy and Don’t Come Back. Is he to Thick to realise He will Be Hated so Much Now !!!!!!!!!! Fat Ashley Derek Lambias and Now Andy Carroll 3 Hated People By The Geordie Nation. What Must Chris Hughton Be Thinking Now ?? Probably Thank God He Was Sacked Then and Not Here today !!!!!!

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  • lou9brasil

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:14 PM

    Comment #19

    We are more than just a name on the back of a shirt, we are Newcastle United Football Club, We are a legacy!!!!

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  • ochytoon

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM

    Comment #20

    Puncheon would have solved our winger problem for the rest of season. Ready for a bullshit excuse 2morrow. We were unable to agree fees with multiple clubs because they were charging extravagant prices. In other words. We sold AC with 6 hours of transfer window and forgot to get a replacement, soz

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  • Oba

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM

    Comment #21

    Nelson Valdez on the way.

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  • newcastle29

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM

    Comment #22

    edd case.

    it shuts for the prem, open for 2 weeks after for clubs outside the prem.

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  • Whitecap

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM

    Comment #23

    Maybe Carroll doesn’t like Pardew and is still upset about Hughton getting the sack.

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  • geist

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM

    Comment #24

    edd case, the loan window is only for football league clubs.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:16 PM

    Comment #25

    Who the hell is Nelson Valdez? Wheres that story from??

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  • Timmers09

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:17 PM

    Comment #26

    Maybe he’s doing a big F you to Liverpool let them sell Torres and then go nah I wanna go back to toon, see ya!

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  • ochytoon

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:17 PM

    Comment #27

    BBC reckon club working hard to get late deal pushed through. If they do then I take back what I said

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  • StuW

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:17 PM

    Comment #28

    The kick in the balls will be Kenny handing Andy the Liverpool no9 shirt.

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  • GeordieToon89

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:17 PM

    Comment #29

    Edd case.. the loans is only for Championship and downwards.. Premier league everything slams shut at 11pm but if thaz a deal agreed and what not we can technically sign him tomorrow just everythings got to be faxed off too the FA tonight

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  • Oba

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 PM

    Comment #30

    Nelson Haedo Valdez. From Hercules.

    Paraguayan striker.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 PM

    Comment #31

    Still no confirmation of Carroll signing for Liverpoo or Torres to Chelski.

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  • Thump

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 PM

    Comment #32

    @Whitecap: I suggested that earlier and got a barrage of abuse.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 PM

    Comment #33

    International Transfer window shuts at 12PM

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  • archaeomag

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 PM

    Comment #34

    Well, it certainly puts all the Sh*t in the papers in perspective, all the players that were coming – the wide players to supply AC, etc.. .

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  • normag

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 PM

    Comment #35

    Carroll is a big headed p£££k!

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #36

    @ archaeomag // Jan 31, 2011 at 10:18 PM

    Yep. We dont need wingers now, we have noone for them to cross to!

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  • Whitecap

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #37

    @Thump. I think it is plausible. Carroll became a top striker under Hughton and Pardew has been known to rub people the wrong way.

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  • GAZ09

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:20 PM

    Comment #38

    lol @ Timmers09 that would be great

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  • ochytoon

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:20 PM

    Comment #39

    Y the f*****k cant we get Dos Santos on loan. Just gone to Racing Santander

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  • ToonBry

    Jan 31, 2011 at 10:20 PM

    Comment #40

    I get that he might not be happy with chris’ sacking but still no excuse to turn your back on your boy-hood club and the team you love

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