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Newcastle Will Win Nothing With Mike Ashley As Owner

10:15 am, Tuesday, February 1st, 2011 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 105 Comments

We were sent the news about Andy Carroll texting to Steve Wraith last night quite early on – but even before that -  the news about Andy Carroll asking for a transfer seemed very suspicious to us.

Mike Ashley

For one thing when Mike Ashley was said to have turned down the second offer of £35M, Andy Carroll was also said to be in a helicopter on his way to Liverpool – but why would that be if Newcastle hadn’t agreed a fee with Liverpool?

And Sky Sports reporters were stupidly giddy all day yesterday – and that was also a sorry sight indeed. I showed Madeline, my wife,  how they were going on and she also thought they were like little kids in the playground. Apologies to little kids in playgrounds everywhere. :D

We knew Mike Ashley is prone to make huge gaffs, as he did when he fired Chris Hughton out of the blue, but one problem we have with Mike is we just don’t see a lot of them coming.

Bit it’s now very clear to us that Ashley is one ruthless businessman – and believe me I’ve seen this kind before – they are not nice people. Well at least not nice when they are in action in the business world, which Mike was yesterday.

But now be prepared in the summer to lose one or maybe two more top Newcastle players, because once next season begins The Financial Fair Play rules kick in and this kind of dealing will not be possible.

That’s why we think the January window was huge and the summer window will be even bigger – because it’s one last big chance for the teams with money – you all know who they are – to spend beyond their current means..

Steve Wraith, claimed Carroll had contacted him before flying to Liverpool, and made it clear he was being forced out of the club.

Wraith said Carroll texted him:

“I’m gutted to be leaving my home town club, i was told to go. I didn’t want to leave that’s why I signed a 5 year deal. I was pushed out of the door.”

I’ve had a little contact with Steve through this blog, and he’;s a very good guy, and he wouldn’t be making this stuff up.

While I’ve had my doubts about some of the NUST members, Steve was always very personable and straight with his communications.

But it made no sense when Mike Ashley said he was forced into the deal  because Carroll asked for a transfer, and subsequently the announcements from Newcastle conveniently neglected to say that Newcastle had agreed a fee with Liverpool – it was all about granting Andy his transfer request and all of that.

So I kind of smelled a rat yesterday  – so to speak .

The goings on in the very last day of the window,  have left some Newcastle fans feeling sick, including me.

And if you didn’t think football is now big business – you saw the rat race in full swing yesterday – with the selfishness and ruthlessness you should be prepared for if you want to be in executive management.

Watch your back is good advice in that world, and I have a few stories from my own career that would shock  people – I can tell you.

The rat race  makes real people seem so small – and there must be a better way for people to operate and to treat each other – isn’t there?

Yes £35M is a very good fee for Andy Carroll – but what are Newcastle doing these days? What do we want to become over the next three to five years?

We don’t seem to have any ambition to get into the top five, and we seem to be a club like Southampton (this is by no way a criticism of this great little club), and other smaller clubs who must grow their own players, but then sell their best players to just survive.

So it’s hard for them to build a great side, because they keep selling their best players – just like Newcastle did yesterday.

It was a very sad day for Newcastle United football club, and Mike Ashley convinced us by his actions yesterday, the famous Tyneside club will win nothing with him as the owner.

Nothing.



Tags: Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours



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105 responses so far ↓

  • 1 daneevz // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:22 AM

    Its All 1 BIG Fcuk Up!!!

  • 2 Xavi // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:22 AM

    i agree Ed.

    this sort of thing has been coming for sometime even if carroll did hand in a transfer request. the owner and the board dont have the footballing knowledge to make the right appointments ( or keeping CH) spending the right money for the right players and consistantly ignoring the fans.

    we will NEVER WIN ANYTHING WITH MIKE ASHLEY

  • 3 toon_dog // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:22 AM

    what i would give to be a fly on the wall of cashleys office.
    we will probly never know wt has happened yesterday there is theorys backing both carroll and ashley and theorys making them both the bad guys but like a said we will never know .
    the txts going about could of quite easlily been set up to make him look innocent and going of cashleys track record its quite belivable that he pushed him out the door.
    but the one way i look at it is 35 mil for an unproven striker DEAL the fact were left with no up front threat is poop but its done now wel have to live with it

  • 4 Malaysia-RASHID // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:24 AM

    hahahaha…Next Cashley product is Ryan Donaldson, this lads is also as good as Carroll, he will wear no 9 and being sold.

    As for Ranger, he will last like Ameobi, cheap, lazy, score when he in danger to be replace…hahahahaha

    another product is Ben Arfa, yven moyo, tiote, and maybe Jose..hahahahaha

    all the drama is awesome, first class by Mike…love you mike…well done son.

  • 5 Hawaiian Geordie // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:29 AM

    i don’t buy the “pushed out the door” part at all

    he was on a 5 year contract, he could stay if really wanted to

  • 6 scdoty // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:29 AM

    We are going no where, will be lucky to see any of that transfer money.

    I only hope The bull and tiote stay now. (Bull i know you read this so please stay).

    Strolla and Best upfront??? There is little competition for places upfront now. so we will see an even more lazy Strolla. HELP.

  • 7 alex84 // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:30 AM

    well im utterly messed up by yesterday’s events! 35mill that we can’t spend and our very own number 9 forced out, this has been planned for a while now, look at the evidence its plain to see, i can’t look at the pics of Andy Carroll at Liverpool…feel sick.

  • 8 Stuart // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:33 AM

    Wish I could just flip a switch and not care about Newcastle anymore, I’ve never been so angry at the club, but of course, I can’t just turn my back on them, what self respecting Geordie could ever do that?

    Oh wait…

    Can’t believe we’ve done this, I dont care who’s idea it was, if he was going to be sold it should’ve been when we had time to get in a replacement, not with 5 or so hours when every other club has the sense not to sell players as they know they wont have time to replace them.

    It’ll be a tough season from now until the summer, and I wouldnt expect much of that £35m spent on transfers then either. Its alot more likely our other big names will follow Carroll through the door to line the fat mans pockets before the Fair Play laws come in.

  • 9 toon_dog // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:33 AM

    wherns the pards interview on ?? am sick of watching SSN

  • 10 Malaysia-RASHID // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:35 AM

    i am tired to say this…

    AC don’t want to stay coz Cashley wanted him to go, than he go..

  • 11 sammydolan // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:35 AM

    Of all the people you’d think would leave Carroll, no.9, Geordie through and through leaves, which leaves no hope for people like Jose, Cheik who say yes they love the club but money & potential trophies talk….

    As regards to Ashley, where is a severe stroke when you need one…

  • 12 jarra geordie // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:35 AM

    I wonder if all this will make players like Joey reconsider his reduced contract and plans to see out the remainder of his footballing days with The Toon.

    Another worrying thought is that Tiote only cost 3.5 million pounds and has already attracted plenty of attention from other clubs. Not to mention el Toro ofc…

  • 13 Solaidback // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:37 AM

    Oh and we’ve won loads in the past 40 years under other owners too haven’t we…. what complete bo!!ocks Ed…. talk about taking the Anti-Ashley side of this story….. :( :(

  • 14 Whitecap // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:38 AM

    One thing seems for sure, either Andy Carroll or the club is lying about Andy handing in a transfer request. Whatever it is, it needs to be cleared up and quickly.

  • 15 Stuart // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:39 AM

    Tiote, Enrique, Barton, HBA

    At least 4 players I can see moving on in the summer, why not, in Mikes eyes we’ll get more than we paid for all of them no doubt.

    Its not like it’ll effect the team in any way, its not like they’re our best players, its not like we dont have loads of cover for them.

    What a day to be a geordie!

  • 16 Toonaholic // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:39 AM

    pushed out the door my arse, he looked delighted shaking dalglishes hand, wearing a liverpool jumper, a player he really didnt wonna leave us but got pushed out was scott parker, and u could tell, he looked glum in the press conference when he moved to west ham. caroll, not a care in the world.
    i apologise for my bad grammer spelling and punctuation, in a bit of a rush.

  • 17 North Atlantic Magpie // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:41 AM

    I’m happy Carroll is gone :)

  • 18 Edd Case // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:41 AM

    Im already bored of the Carroll transfer.

    We need to think positive and remember that we are in theory, only about 4 wins from securing Premiership safety….

    Then we can think about the summer transfer window and all that cash we have to buy new players!!!

    Oh no, wait, Mike Ashley owns our club…

  • 19 callie9 // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:42 AM

    Well you can’t have been that suspicious seeing as your article yesterday after he handed the request in slated Carroll and called him a traitor. This site is becoming truly unbareable. Jesus. It’s like Hughton leaving all over again. No doubt you will be mentioning Carroll going in every article like you mention CH. Sort it out man.

  • 20 davybtoon // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:42 AM

    theres nothin new goin on here lads we have alwasys been a selling club its only harps, shearer n shola who have stayed

  • 21 doddsy // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:42 AM

    stop blaming ashley the text apparintly said that carroll said h didnt want to go why put a transfer request in then. he could have just said no simple as that stop blaming ashley carroll is just sayin all of this because he knows he wont be welomed bak one dayy which he will with open arms in what erver happened

  • 22 Whitecap // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:44 AM

    Of course Andy was happy to be at Liverpool. That doesn’t mean to say he would rather have been at Newcastle.

    He just signed a new large contract, everyone was very happy to meet him including the great Kenny Dalglish and he was brought in to replace Fernando Torres. This was a Championship player who didn’t score many goals last year. Of course, he’s happy.

    How could he play for Newcastle if the owner told him to get out? How could he play for a club he was no longer welcome at?

  • 23 NorseMag // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:44 AM

    If it’s so easy pushing players out of this club, what is Xisco still doing here?

    Proving how indispensible he is?

  • 24 Markaccus // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:44 AM

    Ex aresnal and boro forward alliadier (spelling lol) is available on a free, according to pfa site. We are still allowed to sign frees. We could have done worse than him, although I still would rather have carroll

  • 25 doddsy // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:44 AM

    and he (ashley) can do what ever he likess its his club no one elses go try and stand a protest to ur manager get on swith it move on who need carroll he needed us more thn we needed him

  • 26 Milzzy Rascal // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:45 AM

    This is my last post on here until Mike Ashley goes. I’m gutted absolutely shot to pieces over this. The last time I felt like this was after Keegan went the 2nd time. Who orchestrated that? Fatty did. What happened after that? We went down. This has crushed my spirit and probably 90% of the bloggers on here. When someone said above they feel sick I feel the same totally nauseaus.

    I kind of have the feeling running through me of ‘what’s the point?’ I know people say you don’t support the man you support the shirt and that’s bang on the money but how many times do we have to be let down and hurt by this man?

    To do an Ian Holloway it’s like going out with a stunning girl and been ecstatic then getting dumped and being devastated. Then she gives you some hope and you go for a drink and you get excited then she dumps you again and on and on and on.

    Mike Ashley regardless of funds has sold us down the river and put us on the roulette table yet again. He’s sold the local lad the number 9, the guy that most fans identify with and for what? To make his wallet fatter? Andy Carroll did not ask for a transfer. Having slept on it I realise that he just wouldn’t. His family is here, his friends are here, his life is here why would he want to leave?

    For what it’s worth so long Andy. Thanks for the memories and best of luck.

    Why is every song on the radio so depressing today???

    Milzzy Rascal signing off until Mike Ashley f***ks off.

  • 27 davybtoon // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:45 AM

    am plzed we did the deal think its great money nearly 40mil n wheather it goes on players or pay off 40mill of the debt its great business, look at it this way quicker ashly gets his cash bk the quicker he mite sell the club on

  • 28 Markaccus // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:46 AM

    Xisco is at deportivo on loan @ norsemag

  • 29 Jarra Mag // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:46 AM

    The period between now and the end of the next transfer window will define Cashley’s ownership. Our survival this season [4 wins please] and who we buy or sell. That will sum up the Cocknee, mafia. If invested properly, the £35m could be the making of us…or the breaking of us under the FCB. Pardew has lost a substantial amount of credibility in this – he didn’t have much to start with, but hey, give the bloke a chance. One thing is for certain – if we get relegated again, I wouldn’t bet on seeing Ashley and entourage at SJP ever again. Northumbria’s finest would virtually ban him from the ground for “safety reasons”. To get relegated once is a misfortune…twice, then that’s just careless – he will have to sell.

  • 30 DrunkenSteve // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:46 AM

    Lets be honest it was probs a bit of both AC and MA.

    AC’s agent wispering in his ear about £80K/wk at Cesse. AC says to board I want you to get nr that figure.

    MA sees his oppertunity and says he will never pay that kind of money, sugests AC hands in trans req. AC being a young man, manipulated by Fat Disgusting Dogs AR$E says ok.

    MA does back flips as he now has a fall guy and £35M in his back pocket.

    The money will not be reinvested.
    It will be interesting to see how much NUFC pay back MA from the interest free loans. I suppose this is the 1 advantage of NUFC releasing their figure so late.

  • 31 doddsy // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:47 AM

    course he was welcome why did he travel down liverpool b4 a transfer was even agreed? then hand in a request when 2nd bid got rejected?

    ashley if he really wanted to seel he wowuld have an you;s no he would have

  • 32 NorseMag // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:47 AM

    Owner wants the cash for you.
    BUT
    Fans love you.
    Players love you (maybe except Saylor)
    Manager thinks you’re the future.

    Do you feel unwanted?

  • 33 shearermania // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:47 AM

    selling Andy for 35 mill is good business and i have no problem with that….what i do have a problem with is that there wasnt a replacement – that is unacceptable…and of course it wasnt planned like some bloggers suggest (the young kids with conspiracy theories) otherwise we wouldnt desperately trying to get the likes of crouch, zoggy in the last minutes.

    biggest problem though is the constant lying and misleading information coming out from ashley and his puppets….i wish for once that someone stood up and spoke the truth…..ive come to terms with not being a top club – but would appreciate honesty fro the club i love….

  • 34 macn0ble (Finland) // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:48 AM

    Calm down Ed.

    Is Carroll better than David Villa or Karim Benzema? We just got 35 million. That is more then most of the teams get in 5 years. We robbed Liverpool! Now we just have to cope until the end of the season and who knows maybe Ranger will fill his boots.

    We still have 4 strikers and 3 of them have scored in EPL. We need about 12 points to stay in the league, which should be easy task.

    If this blows, cry during the summer, not just yet when we cannot analyse the effect.

  • 35 jarra geordie // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:48 AM

    @ Markaccus Number 24 SSn saying Xisco gone back to Deportivo mate. think its just a loan tho

  • 36 ginkoh // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:48 AM

    I’m just surprise you made this topic ED. You should know we can’t win anything since last 2 season.

  • 37 jarra geordie // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:50 AM

    sorry Norsemag 23

  • 38 Irish-Toon // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:50 AM

    If Carool didn’t want to go he could have said no, there are a few others in our history the board have tried to get rid of, namely one A.Shearer. Fat Freddy tried to sell him eoff to Barca or Juve, but Sherarer said stick it

  • 39 davybtoon // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM

    can i publicly apology to STEVEN TAYLOR bcoz he has never once handed in a transfer request even when transfer listed, do u get my point http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/pardew_breaks_silence_on_carroll_sale_1_2999676

  • 40 doddsy // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM

    agree with sheareemania

    if it was planed they would have had someone lined up to replace him straight away

    players turned us down on ded line day

    SWP
    bednar
    charlton cole
    crouch
    nzonbia
    elmanda

  • 41 Mac // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM

    Right here comes my rant.Sick of all this. Andy Carroll putin a transfer request pure and simple. He is a greedy young man pure and simple. How can anyone push someone out of the door that has just recently signed a 5 year contract. And poor Andy he didn’t want to leave he wanted to let the public know he was being pushed,so what did he do he contacted the Chronicle imean the Journal sorry i mean sky sports. Oh no that’s right he text hismate Steve Wraith,give me a break., Nothing against Steve i went to school with him and his brother Rob but honestly what is Steve gonna do.
    And on the fee. Ok Andy is injured has a court case is clearly a tool when he’s had a drink and Liverpool play 40 million on him. Tevez 25 Berba 28 Rooney28 Bent 18 Gerrard 30 Van Persie 25 Van de varrt 8 Modric 18 Defoe 15. It’s a great deal an unbelievable bitof business. All the players mentioned above were proven internationals. Carroll hasscored 11 Prem goals. I mean David Villa cost 30 million.

  • 42 Rem // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM

    This is ridiculous blaming Ashley for Carroll leaving.

    He handed in the request, he was being greedy wanting more money.

    Mike Ashely is bad for newcastle, but he did not force Carroll out

  • 43 nightfa11 // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM

    ALAN Pardew today hit back at Andy Carroll’s claim he was forced out of St James’s Park.

    And Newcastle United’s manager also insisted he has been promised that Carroll’s £35m-plus fee will be reinvested in the team by owner Mike Ashley.

    Carroll last night completed a transfer deadline day move to Liverpool after handing in a written transfer request.

    But the striker told friends in a series of texts he didn’t want to leave Newcastle – and had been forced out because the United “wanted the money”.

    However, Pardew says Carroll – who signed a new long-term contract in October – approached him about a new contract after training, and handed a transfer request in when the club baulked at renegotiating his deal so soon after it was signed.

    Asked about Carroll’s texts, Pardew told the Gazette: “What can I say? We didn’t force anybody to leave.

    “I disagree with that point. He had a contract here for five years, and at some point it would get renewed, but for him to sign in October and it get renewed in January – where would it stop?

    “Personally, I’m disappointed. He’s a lovely lad, and I really like him, but it was his decision, and you can’t change that.

    “Was this about football? That’s what you have to ask. I don’t think it was.”

    Liverpool moved for Carroll after Chelsea hardened their interest in Fernando Torres, who last night joined Chelsea in a British-record £48m deal.

    Pardew went on: “We turned down a big offer, and they came back with a second big offer.

    “We were having a discussion about what we were going to do with that offer when Andy requested to see me.

    “I went to see Andy, and face to face we had a conversation about him wanting a new contract, even though he signed on in October, and (he said) if he didn’t get that contract, he wanted go.

    “I asked him what he wanted, and I went to the board. We had a discussion about what the ramifications would be for the whole club.

    “We took the view, with him signing a contract in October, that this would cause us all sorts of problems.

    “We decided that we needed the conversation confirmed, and he put in a transfer request, which he did.

    “He spoke to his agent, and between them they put the request in. We decided with the size of the offer, and what it meant to us, that we would accept.”

    Pardew – who “guaranteed” Carroll wouldn’t be sold after succeeding Chris Hughton in December – was unable to bring in a replacement given the last-minute nature of the deal, which was confirmed less than an hour before transfer-window deadline.

    With Wayne Routledge and Xisco having left on loan, and only Stephen Ireland having signed, Pardew’s squad is significantly weaker than it was a month ago.

    However, Pardew has taken Ashley’s assurances that the fee will be spent on players in the summer, and beyond, at face value.

    “We weren’t expecting him to go, so we weren’t in a position to replace him,” added Pardew.

    “One thing I can guarantee, having spoke to Mike Ashley, is that every penny will go back into the club. Mike’s assured me he won’t take a penny out of the transfer.”

    And asked about his repeated assurances that Carroll wouldn’t be sold, Pardew said: “We never put him up for sale – we fended off a bid from another Premiership club.

    “But no club’s about one player. We’re absolutely gutted that he’s gone. It’s disappointing, but we’re not in a financial position like Liverpool.”

    there u have it – so long mercenary

  • 44 Mags // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM

    I just want the truth from this whole sorry saga to come out.

  • 45 Rotonda heights // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    Surely if there wasn’t a replacement in place, that would indicate that Ashley was completely taken by surprise at a bid of 36M

  • 46 leedodd // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    We Need a proper Statement from Andy Carroll For The Newcastle fans Not Chinease Wispers. If He was Going to Go AT Least We Got double what he is Worth More Than That and also Andy IS More than taken care of. We have to Move on and Just Be safe in The Premier League and Hope That Shola and the rest of them Pull There Fingers Out Now !!!!

  • 47 stopper // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM

    The thing is all parties in this wanted their own finacial slice of the pie.
    It just makes me sad and angry about what went on yesterday at our club….contrast that however with Blackpool who refused to sell Charlie Adams yesterday and saw off Liverpool and Spurs EVEN AFTER ADAMS HAD A TRANSFER REQUEST IN….. so a club can dig its heels in when a player wants away….. Blackpool showed that.

    What now of our number 9 shirt i ask you? because if a local lad who is a centre forward living the dream of being the clubs number 9 with all its impotance to the clubs history can walk away after wearing it for such a short time away then its obvious that the shirt is only important to the fans.
    If it means so little to a local boy who knows what it represents and understands its connection with the fans and previous wears then it would mean nothing to a player from else where.
    This saga with AC has shown that like him we should now no longer lament about our famous number 9 and treat the shirt like every other club treats their number 9…. its just a number because now no player can do it justice.

  • 48 shearermania // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM

    doddsy

    did we really bid for bednar – west brom?…..and got turned down……lol

  • 49 doddsy // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:57 AM

    seee read artical welldone pardeww mate i like you i respect u

  • 50 Rem // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:57 AM

    @ Stopper

    and then they said they would let him go for the right price

  • 51 Indian Magpie // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:57 AM

    Does any one know if there was any change in the bid that was launched which was rejected. in financial terms.

  • 52 Lyons // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:58 AM

    £35m is a lot, we can get a few guys in for that.
    Other teams were wising up to Andy carrol game plan, i.e working on blocking his runs.

    Also maybe we can play some less 1 dimensional football now?

    Theres always a positive in a negative you just got to look for them

  • 53 doddsy // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:58 AM

    no sorry mate not the west brom one mate haha its just my shi9te spelling haha it was the arsenal one hha ha

  • 54 jimmymagpie // Feb 1, 2011 at 10:59 AM

    I haven’t come on here to gloat that the news I gave you in early Jan that the club would sell Carroll has turned out to be true. I am as gutted and bitter as the rest of you, and after 60 years, I have finally had enough, and will not give the club another penny of my money until the FCB sells up. It was his avowed intent to teach those ‘bloody geordies’ a lesson after we abused him after the Keegan fiasco. Tiote and Enrique will follow in the summer when Chelsea and Man Utd come calling. The harm that this will have done to dressing room morale now makes us vulnerable to relegation, and it will be interesting to see if Barton still accepts his new contract. Look after yourselves.

  • 55 davybtoon // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:00 AM

    i agree with pardew

  • 56 geoff777 // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:00 AM

    I can’t believe people are blaming Andy Carroll.

    This has Ashley’s greedy fingerprints all over it.

    Ed is spot on.

    We’ll win nothing while Ashley is our owner.

    NUFC = FEEDER CLUB

  • 57 wynsleap // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:00 AM

    I’m sick to death of some people backing Ashley’s moves as some significant step forward for this club.
    The selling of Carroll for £35mill. was GREAT BUSINESS.
    To sell him at this time without a replacement (or two) is rank BAD BUSINESS.
    He could have been sold in the summer when the price would still have been the same (maybe more if more goals were flowing before the end of the season). The only diffrenec then would have been that Pardew would have had all summer to bring in replacements.
    It’s about time that people realised that Ed’s headline is totally correct and this guy odes NOT have the best interests of the club at heart.
    Whatever his motives this club is going absolutely nowhere (except probably down again.
    As a Liverpool supporter has said on another blog Toon fans should get this guy out of the club in the same way that Pool supporters got their owners out.
    After 60 years of supporting this club and uncomplainingly putting up with second rate players, second rate managers and third rate owners, I sometimes think that we all get exactly what we deserve.

  • 58 stuart no9 // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:00 AM

    hi ed
    its good to see you have finally seen through MA and what he stands for , i have always said we need to get him out, but a lot of people slated me when i said , we can get rid of him if we protest long and hard ,we must support the team they say , because they could nt see the LONG TERM effect this man will have on our club, this man is aliar AND he has already proved it , make no mistake , he sold AC . WE NEED HIM OUT and for people to say we must support the team WHAT TEAM ? we have just lost our goal scorer , we have no more, WE HAVE TO THINK LONG TERM HERE, AND THAT MEANS ASH OUT OR NEXT YEAR WE WONT HAVE A TEAM TO CALL NUFC

  • 59 Piccolo // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:01 AM

    @Mac @ @ shearermania – agree.

    AC is a grown ass man, if he didn’t want to do it ,he didn’t have to do it, all this crap about being forced out….do me a favour, grow a set and say NO if you really wanted to stay.

    The scenario Pardew has mentioned sounds more like it, he tried to do a Milner and it back fired big style – let’s face it Carroll wanted more money so he left…but then lets not kid ourselves, Ashley wanted the £35mil too, the only ones that lost out yesterday were the fans!!

    The soul has definitely gone from football after yesterday!!

  • 60 JohnnyBrookes // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:02 AM

    As if anyone swallows that rubbish from Pardew!!!

    Towing the party line springs to mind.

    Why cancel the press conference yesterday? some of us new this would happen from day one.

    It is no wonder Ashley gets away with what he does the amount of people on here lining up to crucify Carroll. Remember keegan/milner?? “He will not be sold” – oh shit then he was sold.

    People please wake up.

  • 61 shearermania // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM

    doddsy….
    cheers – almost had a heart attack….

    we will see the truth come wednesday night agaist fulham….the players will show who is in the right…..
    also awaits a statement from Nolan…he the captain and Andy’s mate…he would know the truth

  • 62 Indian Magpie // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM

    Even if Torres was going to be sold and carroll not bought. liverpool had a replacement in suarez we have nothing.

    I felt with Fulham having 3 games in a week while us having 1 we could beat them. but now i think they will beat us.

    I think the way pardue has done as manager if he gets the sack as manager here. i do not think he will ever get a job agian

  • 63 leedodd // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM

    Ah Ha as I said Yesterday on Here Its all Comeing Back as true NOW !!! – Andy wanted to Stay But on The Money Liverpool were Going to Offer Him. He was Probably Hearing The Contract that Joey was Going to Sign and wanted more Money- The Board said no so he said ok I am Off and the offer was accepted and Andy Was Dust !!!!!!!We now have 6 months to get a New Striker and the right man for the Job and Not a Free Transfer or a Loan .

  • 64 doddsy // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM

    what has ashley done wrong really since he has been owner of newcaslte?

    NOTHINK

    he got the club free from debt
    good youth aacademy
    keeping most stuff quite which is really good compared to other owners
    attracting good young players

    giving money to spend so be it not much but its a start

    i think he is on his way to his 5 yr plan he know how to run a bussiness proplyy so whwy fault him

  • 65 doddsy // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:07 AM

    johnny brooks mate

    press confrince ~(cant spell)
    got canccel becasue that was for ireland but he failed a mediccal thn it wasnt till later on till they signed him after it got sorted

  • 66 Stuart // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:08 AM

    I would just love it if the traitorous bastard gets in trouble with the police again very soon and gets sent down this time.

    Would be great to see all them little scousers hearts smash in two when their new £35m signing plays 1 game before smacking some lass again and getting sent down.

    One tiny silver lining on an otherwise miserable state of affairs.

  • 67 JohnnyBrookes // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:09 AM

    Doodsy you have to be on a wind up?

    Here is a few things: Brought in Keegan, then undermined him, selling players from under him and bringing in his pal Dennis wise to sort out the transfers.

    Sold Milner for a fraction of the price he eventually went for with no future clauses and no money reinvested.

    Brought Shearer in, didn’t offer him a new deal.

    Sacked Chris Houghton when we were stable and doing well.

    Now he has just sold our prize asset at the end of a transfer window in our promotion season. with no replacement, and he didn’t want to go.

    Wise up. The pro Ashley brigade on here are infuriating.

  • 68 JP...from The Rock // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:09 AM

    Like everyone I am disgusted about all the shit that went on last night. DISGUSTED!!! I still cannot believe we have sold our number 9 and Englands number 9 for the next 10 years!! OK 35M is a lot of money but who cares??? Only Ashley cares about the money! Last night I Thought Andy Carroll wanted to leave and felt betrayed and thought it would be best to get rid of a traitor. Now I see todays news and Carroll saying he was forced out!!? Now this is just like another shocking departure we had recently in Hughton and before him Milner and Given. I have come to the conclusion that Andy may have been forced out but he could have stayed and said no to Ashley- but he didn’t and decided to call it a day and go for the money. Fat Ashley perhaps thought of keeping Carroll but deep down he knew and possibly Pardew knew that if 35M+ would be offered (silly money) then Ashley would sell. After being told for months that Andy Carroll won’t leave he;s again gone and done the opposite. This just shows that Ashley cannot be trusted at all. I am a bit angry with Andy Carroll because he could easily have said no even though he was being forced out and Ashley could do nothing about it. The fact he’s said yes and Ashley has sold our prized asset when he said we won’t jsut porves that we have no future with Ashley in charge. ASHLEY HAS TO LEAVE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For those of you that think 35M could be spent well in the summer wake up!!! If a rash 12M offer to Wigan for Charles Insomnia is what we have to go by then we doomed already. Insomnia was sold because he wasn’t fit to wear the shirt, caused major uprest in the dressing room with his childish attitude and he is part of history why bring that twat back when there are better options!?? Also so much for Ashly giving that longf statement to the fans about his supposed long term 5 year plan when long gone are the days when a local star like Shearer slips under our nose and has to ply their trade in a team like Southampton to get recognition from Newcastle. ALL THAT WAS BULLSHIT and I for one fell for it!! I hate this club more than ever and I cannot stand to support this joke of a club as we will never get anywhere. I can’t turn off a switch for my love for Newcastle but I will damn well try as this club just hurts me and the thousands / millions other Newcastle fans around the world. ASHLEY OUT !!!!! Till then I can ever believe a word that comes from our club!!! We will never become a success with Shley here!! NEVER!!!!!!! I fcuking hate the way we always shoot ourselves in the foot and I can’t bare watch anymore. As I am typing this I know I won’t be able to turn my back on the club but I feel that I have to for my own health. We are the joke again and it’s ridiculous and shameful. I will not tolerate this anymore and as fans we should chuck Fat Ashley out now before he gets rid of our other star players ie. Ben Arfa, Tiote, Enrique etc.

    This is worse news than Hughton leaving and it was only a few months ago…I can only take so much heartache.

    ASHLEY OUT NOW!!!!!!! SATAN IN BLACK AND WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 69 geoff777 // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:09 AM

    @doddsy

    I thought Ashley was fat because of booze and a bad diet.

    But actually it because your head is lodged way up his colon.

  • 70 Vest // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:10 AM

    Usually I just read here, but now I have to comment. £35 mil. is one heck of a lot of money, and even Andy isn’t worth that much. So I say good we took the money.

    Then there is this “I hate Mike Ashley” thing, that some “supporters” love to shout about. Please stop it. Ashley is trying his best now, I’m sure of that.

    I’m no Ashley fan, but a NUFC fan. I want the CLUB to succeed.

    I don’t believe Ashley when he says that all the money will be spent on new players, but I hope they will. I’ll believe it when I see it.

    But when Andy Carroll says he was forced out of the club, it is a joke. He had five years left on his contract, and could easily say NO to Liverpool. But he DIDN’T. Maybe You should ask Yourself WHY he said yes to LFC, instead of slaughtering Ashley and the rest of the NUFC board.

    I love the Newcastle United Football Club, and no other than the club.

    No one is bigger then the club, and not even Andy Carroll.

    HWTL

  • 71 shearermania // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM

    the boy clearly wanted a pay increase – thats normal….bobby robson talks about it in his biography – you turn down a big offer from a player – you need to give him a bone….THATS how it always has beeen….so carrolls agent tells him you go and ask for a payrise, cause you deserve it after they turn down a big offer…..it backfires and becomes a pride issue where no one will back down….whupty carrolls gone to cessepool with a bag of money….ashley got a bag of money – everyone is happy except us but hey we are never happy anyway – we are toon supporters – we woulnt know what happiness were – as we havent had reasons to be happy as far as i remember

  • 72 Angryman the Angry fan // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM

    Is that the most obvious headline ever ed??
    NO SH!T SHERLOCK…..

  • 73 bib60 // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:12 AM

    Mike Ashley felt he was shafted by Freddy Shepherd and probably was, he failed to do due diligence, He hates the North East, Geordies, Newcastle with a passion to the point of transferring board meetings to London. They think of us as northern monkeys, we can protest, boycott, march, write on sheets and chant and it will make no difference, he wants his money back. When a decent bloke like CH was sacked I gave up after 40+ years were hardly an hour went by I did not think of Newcastle. In my eyes he is as bad as Thatcher, there were over a dozen of us use to meet before and after now its less than half. Cheers Ashley.

  • 74 Angryman the Angry fan // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM

    Doddsy??
    Ye for f11cking real???
    or are you one of those spamming machines?
    Oh FFS!!
    Whats Ashley done for this club………give me a break sunshine……

  • 75 BudroBeardo // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:14 AM

    Carroll had five years left on his contract, he could have stayed if he wanted. But I do also believe that the fatty (Michael James Wallace) was more than willing to pocket those 35m or whatever the fee is.

    The most important thing in my opinion is how the squad going to react. I believe someone like Nolan will be absolutely gutted. The team mentality was already stretched by the sacking of Hughton, and that was only weeks ago. How comfortable Pardew is now, after stating on several occasions that Carrol is not for sale.

    The lads have been playing reasonably well without Andy in recent weeks. If they can keep that up, we can maintain our Premier League status. But if we go down, I can’t see us bouncing back under Ashley regime.

    The most frustrating thing at the moment is to watch Strolla leading our forward line-up week in week out. 10 weeks is a long time to watch paint dry.

  • 76 chambersl // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:14 AM

    i would love someone to tell me what ashley could do to carroll to “push him out” as most of you seem think he did? end of the day we all need to get over it hes gone now move on and lets get back behind the team 4 games unbeaten without carroll now and one of them games we won 5-0 yes hes a good player and would of loved him to stay but we dont and have never needed him

  • 77 leedodd // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:14 AM

    We have to Look at This Guys for the last Month or More Carroll was out Injured and we did ok without him. its up to the Rest of the Team to Show The Fans and Carroll we can Live without Him !!!!!! Just means with 3 players now moves out there is more chance of the rest of the squad getting a game . Lets Give Ranger a Chance Now with lovenkrands and best and Shola LAZYOBI Oh I have a Pulled Ham String Today !!!!!

  • 78 Angryman the Angry fan // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:16 AM

    Shearmania.
    On the money mate. Fantastic post!!!

    The biggest EFF UP here is …..PPP
    P!ss Poor prep form a bunch of total incompetents who are only in it for themselves!!

  • 79 leedodd // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:17 AM

    Shola Wont Stay Fit enough for more than 2 games ina row and if he plays for Nigeria he wont be seen for 6 weeks as will be injured again !!!!

  • 80 Angryman the Angry fan // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:22 AM

    Yup, My concern is Sholas injury record, bests failure to hit a barn door, Lovenkrands feather weight division status, and Rangers lack of experience and goalscoring record!!

    I think we are in it big time people. Nolan will not keep scoring. Having someobody to hold the ball up up front for Nolan was why he was so successful. Not now though….who will hold it up? Shola wont work, The others are not ball holding strikers…..and there you have taken away our 2 most prolific scorers!!

    Worrying times.
    Anybody who thinks im wrong?? Look at the last 2 games, actually three…..my 12 yr old son could have gotten a hatrick against West ham defence FFS!!

    I predict a defeat against fulham tomoz, a battering off arsenal…..and then look at the table??
    All teams around us have strengthened, us………well need i go on??

  • 81 bib60 // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:25 AM

    Your a 21 year old bloke your bosses call you in and say we don’t want you and it would be a good idea to go and by the way they will double your wages. It has gone well beyond the point anyone can defend Ashley.

  • 82 JohnnyBrookes // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:26 AM

    Angryman – I disagreed with you on the Ireland transfer, but this I’m with you.

    I’m shocked/annoyed that so many on here are happy to swallow the bullshit that comes out of SJP. I don’t live in Newcastle but attend as many away games as possible but I will not be now.

    We have lost our best striker, some would say our only striker, with no replacement, Ashley will pocket the cash. So people really think this will get reinvested think again.

  • 83 shearermania // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:26 AM

    we probably should have tallked contract with him – thats where we could have got him to stay…thats where we got bloody hands…
    but in the end he forced the issue…..
    and i think today he’ll realise his mistake….
    hes young and young blokes makes mistakes. thats what shapes them into a man….if you learn from them…
    Insomnia same thing – he was a disruptive influence – but i think hes more mature now – in my humble opinion hes an exciting talent and at least its positive that our staff knows that maybe he shouldnt have left…..
    now to the future……it can only get better so heads up boys and shout those lungs out cheering our mighty team on…..

  • 84 chambersl // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:28 AM

    angryman
    i would be more worried if this was the beginning of the season but i think our teams good enough to get 11 12 points to keep us out the relagation zone come may but 100% agree with ure evaluation off our front line fella

  • 85 JP...from The Rock // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:32 AM

    @Shearmania – That’s probably what happened. If so why the hell would Ashley hesitate to offer Carroll an improved contract? To end the speculation and to keep Andy Happy that is all the Fat One had to do. He didn’t and Carroll’s head was already turned and threw his doll out of the pram.

    This club has no ambition and I am now dreading the summer transfer window.

    WE ARE OFFICIALLY A SELLING CLUB!!!!!

    “We will leave no stone unturned in our pursuit for top local talent…” – Remember all that shite coming from our club guys!?? It was all a bunch of lies to shut us up!!!

    ASHLEY OUT!!!!

  • 86 chambersl // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:33 AM

    bib60….. no i love this club i wanna stay? thats all he had to say if he wanted to stay but he wanted a nice pay rise and why not getting payed 3 times more than what your getting payed now to do the same job

  • 87 shearermania // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:42 AM

    stop the blame game about who did what…
    gone is gone….nothing we can do about that.
    would it help to protest and shout ashley out in the middle of the season….well we tried that one before so we know what the outcome will be?

    Thing is football is rotten to the core from fifa to the fa to the players and agents -and has lost its credibility long time ago .from the time billionaire owners like abramovich and billionaire arabs came and threw silly money around like it was toilet paper – add the bosman ruling to that and money dictates the game….
    it was once known as the beautiful game – only beatiful about it – is the fans…..
    they’ll never leave
    thats one thing liverpoheir got right is their anthem

  • 88 Jonah // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:43 AM

    Maybe he got £20 back when he did a free transfer to Barclaycard from the advert on this blog!

    BASTAR*

  • 89 dave 1961 // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:44 AM

    those that think we have £35 million to spend are deluding themselves history shows we do not re invest, on the way back from the last home game I was listening to the radio and they were on about the bent transfer, and how it had just increased the cost of any player they purchased by 5 mil, well this has put 10 mil onto anyone we might be interested in. everyone knows we have money, but it’s not to reinvest, we had a weak squad so what do we do we deplete it, in business most companies have a plan to tackle any problem that arises (apart from bp). so supposedly Carr0ll has this muscle problem, should we not have had a list of targets who we could turn to, why do we have a chief scout, what does Graham Carr do. it’s clear that Ashley is playing Russian roulette again, it’s a cheaper way to get a cheappy, obviously he’s so repulsive that even with massive wealth, he can’t attract any tottie, so he gets his thrills by getting at us, I would have excepted this if we had of had players lined up, but no we get a publicity stunt, my season ticket money’s spent I got the wife a 3d tv, I just will not be taken for a fool by that fat slob, I will not tell others what to do, as its hard for me too. I just got out of the operating theatre 72 hours after knee surgery, last game, & I hobbled to the game. Never again while this fat s**t stains at the club.

  • 90 wynsleap // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:46 AM

    Vest (69)
    “No one is bigger than the club”?
    I think Ashley proved once again yesterday that as he seems to do what he likes, without a thought for good business or fans’ feelings – that statement doesn’t hold up any more.

  • 91 Jonah // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:47 AM

    Asset strip the business and then what? It all started with Hughton going. If thew people of Cairo can demand the getting rid of Mubarak then I am sure the lack of NUFC fans would make or break Ashley’s hold on this wonderful club.
    Come on you Geordie fans. Walk with your feet and go shopping in town or visit the Metro Centre. Just DO NOT go to any matches this month.
    See it as a post Christmas resolution. No footie locally in February.

  • 92 bib60 // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM

    True Shearmania, I just feel apathetic towards football, I felt a million times better even when I was standing pissed wet through with less than 10K against Wrexham with Bobby Shinton {something like 6 goals and to scorer} doing a little dance while waiting for a corner, now I am not boycotting football but I can spend each day feeling this angry so I trying to walk away. Hopefully one day when Ashley is gone I will feel the way I use to, unbelievabley sad, angry and mostly tired.

  • 93 Jonah // Feb 1, 2011 at 12:00 PM

    So fans what are we going to do?

    I implore you, DO NOT go to any matches this month. SAVE your cash. Sky will be still asking for his cash.(Ashley in the future is not to be named and must go in the name of Voldemorte, the one who from harry Potter, must not be named!)

    You can then afford to watch it on TV by buying the channels you want. AND for your money you can watch all the other premier games as well.

    I call that a deal in February.
    Maybe we can get Martin Lewis to post on his website!

  • 94 Jonah // Feb 1, 2011 at 12:02 PM

    Done it yet? made the call to Virginmedia, Sky or ESPN? Go to it. BOYCOTT February Games, the BFG.

  • 95 Sav // Feb 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    How different to Liverpool. They knew their man was leaving, got top dollar for him and bought 2 top replacements.
    We end up chasing round on the phone at the eleventh hour asking if Carlton Cole or N’Zogbia please might be available.
    With Andy, we had a chance to be in Europe next season. Instead we’ve just made ‘armed and dangerous’ one of our rival clubs for 7th spot

  • 96 shearermania // Feb 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    jonah – go watch harry potter….

    newcastle united are not viewing for kids

  • 97 Jonah // Feb 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    B.F.G. – Boycott February Games

  • 98 Jonah // Feb 1, 2011 at 12:04 PM

    No, Shearermania. I agree. BUT are we just going to lie down and take this shi*

  • 99 shearermania // Feb 1, 2011 at 12:05 PM

    jonah
    shut you B ig F at G ob

  • 100 Jonah // Feb 1, 2011 at 12:08 PM

    B.F.G. – Boycott February Games
    People power always wins. Not entering into a slanging match with shearermania LOL. Your just a big kid I guess.

  • 101 JP...from The Rock // Feb 1, 2011 at 12:23 PM

    Look at what Pardew has to say and tell me you what you think then.

    http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/49885/Toon_boss_rejects_Carroll_claims.aspx

  • 102 lewman // Feb 1, 2011 at 12:30 PM

    there are only 3 players still playing in the world whos most recent transfer fee was more than carrolls, ronaldo,kaka and torres. it was only ronaldo and kaka before that and if he does end up costing liverpool 40 million, he will become the 6th highest transfer of all time in world football.

    not a bad days work tbh but still not good news for us in the short term, lets just hope it turns out to be good news in the long term.

  • 103 dave 1961 // Feb 1, 2011 at 1:07 PM

    Two striking word from pardew we will reinvest all the money in closed season & the future (by 20 20?) we turned down offer from another premiere club (not spurs according to harry) the paper trail leads to Ashly.

  • 104 Sawbuck // Feb 1, 2011 at 2:43 PM

    bib60 you are right about Ashley’s malicious motives @ Post 73

    It’s a mild crumb of comfort that more people are coming across to the sick truth.

    Its astonishing that people talk about Ashley being a balanced human being. The club is finished under him.

  • 105 punk skunk... // Feb 1, 2011 at 11:50 PM

    Get a grip y’soft shites…carroll is a traitor!..
    He ain’t no Geordie…




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