Pardew – My Job Now Is To Take Newcastle Forward


We’ve seen the two differing accounts of what happened with Andy Carroll yesterday.

Alan Pardew – I will take Newcastle forward

And each Newcastle fan will weigh up what has been said, and then make their own decision about that what they think happened, and that’s the way it should be.

We’re pleased both sides have the story have been aired, and would only ask readers on this site to respect each other’s opinions, and let’s try to give each other a little bit of civility – it can work wonders – honest!

We were worried about how Alan Pardew would take Andy Carroll leaving,  but we must say it’s a huge relief that Alan has tried to remain calm about it – because the last thing we want is another new manager on Tyneside.

Indeed,  it is another huge challenge for the remaining squad at Newcastle to get the job done tomorrow night at Fulham, and if we can do that – we’ll be absolutely delighted.

Unfortunately the Evening Chronicle is reporting today that Pardew may be interested in bringing in West Ham United striker Carlton Cole in the summer.

We really don’t rate the guy much at all, and would much prefer to see somebody else brought in to replace big Andy, whose career at his local club ended rather sensationally yesterday under somewhat confusing  circumstances.

Pardew will need to use every striker he has at Newcastle in the remaining 15 games,  to somehow fill  the gap left by the departed Carroll, and young Phil Airey, the Amble born 19 year-old, for one,  will be given every chance.

Phil is currently out with a hamstring injury, but the 19 year-old 6″ striker will get a chance when he recovers.

And Alan has talked further about how giving Andy a wage rise after just negotiating his new five year deal, could have had negative consequences with some of the other players.

Alan said today:

“We did not want to do anything to destabilize the club.”

“Derek contacted Andy’s agent and said that if he wants to go we need a written transfer request, which he gave us.”

“It was fairly evident once that came in we would have to accept the offer, but still at that point he didn’t have to go.”

“My job now is to take this club forward with out him.”

The powers that be at Newcastle were concerned about what would happen if they gave Andy another immediate wage rise.

Steven Taylor and others then had every right to go and potentially ask for a wage raise too, and it  could have catapulted out of control.

I’ve had lot of experience in managing different people and their wages, and in situations like this it can be sticky wicket, and you have to be very careful about what you do.

So we can appreciate why Andy wasn’t offered a new contract.

But at some point it’s time to move forward and put this mess behind us, which is what Alan and the lads will be trying to do today.

If Andy didn’t want to stay on Tyneside – so be it – he’s now a Liverpool player and I'[ll probably not watch too many of their games this season.

I’m not interested  what the Reds do – only what Newcastle do.

A win tomorrow night and that red wine will be consumed – promise you that.

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105 comments so far

  • boater

    Feb 1, 2011 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #1

    shola on the banner ED – you know it makes sense.

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  • IceIceGeordie

    Feb 1, 2011 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #2

    Not with Mike Ashley as the owner…….

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  • Brutooon

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #3

    Even Jose Mourinho will kill himself if the owner is Mike Ashley

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  • Big Al 1970

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #4

    Why we are to believe Pardew? He is a crony of proven liars [court decision!]. He said countless times that AC won’t be sold. He said that we target a minumum of 2 new players. He said that he is going to sign better that Routhledge – I don’t think Ireland is that guy, he is CM and we needed a winger! Lies all along. Why nobody at the presser asked him about his constant lies during the window? Where are the players promised?

    Carroll is your star player – of course he’ll want fair wages. Is that so surprising? If NUFC had reasonable management, this issue should have been closed with AC and his representatives back in October, when the last contract was signed.

    It’s absurd when a player’s market price sky-rockets, for him to stay with the same pay package. Torres is on 175k per week, Shrek is at 200k, and AC – at 25-30k. Amateurish management and greed on MA/ DL/ AP side all along.

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  • DrunkenSteve

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #5

    All the talk (yes on this blog too) was that we were sure that Andy would be offered an improved deal given his new found status.

    The agent wispering 80K in his ear has prompted Andy to make an enquirey with the club about the new contact and this was seen as an oppertunity by the cockney mafia. They manipulated Carroll by telling him that they would not improve his contract and if he wanted he can leave. They then cajole Carroll into offering his resignation.

    Everyone on the blog with managment experience will know that they have “managed out” people from their team. This is what has happened here. There is more than one way to skin a cat and they have used underhand tactics to make a young, naive man with a bit of an ego (which all these mega rich footballers have) do exactly what they want.

    In years to come Andy will realise that he could have stood up to the board and will come regret his part in this saga in years to come.

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  • Whitecap

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #6

    Pardew is the biggest fool on Earth if he thinks Ashley is investing all that £35 million into players this summer.

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  • Big Al 1970

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #7

    Yeah, you Pardew b*****d, you are taking the club forward – you lied to the fans during the whole window, did not negotiated well with Andy C and he left/ was pushed out of the club, did sell Rout with the promise to substitute him with better quality. And???

    Only lies, non-delivery and more promises that won’t be fulfilled. End of.

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  • G.unit

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #8

    I 100% guarantee that Andy Carroll won’t be leaving the club in January!!!

    I 100% guarantee that the funds from the Carroll deal will go on signings in the summer.

    Some how Mr Pardew, I don’t believe you. I wonder why??

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  • dubzy

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #9

    the quicker they go the better it will b ,bcoz 5months till the nxt transfer windw an who knows what the fat man will get up 2 an wa players he will sell then ……….

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  • dubzy

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #10

    whitecap.i argee

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  • G

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #11

    The full interview is here:

    http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6716295,00.html

    Makes interesting reading, and to be honest I feel the sale is justified, like it or not.

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  • DeanToon88

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #12

    Why dont we get Shevchenko from Dynamo Kyiv on a free transfer? i think he would snap the oppertunity to play in england again and could be a class little signing??

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  • BW4EVER

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #13

    VERY well Spoken BIG AL 1970 !

    Absolutely hit the nail on the head. Of course Carroll had every write at that point to ask us to match Liverpools wage offer or atleast increase his current basic. This is entirely a different situation than S. Taylor. I didnt see anyone knocking the door down when he was placed on the transfer list so his own stock had not risen.

    Carrolls had and subsequently it should have bene dealt with. Give the boy an extension on top of an increased salary. If he is half the player that Big Al was, christ pay him triple !

    We have lost a large part of the clubs soul. Do not try to hide it, this is demoralising and no amount of cash will hide that.

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  • GeordieGerman

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #14

    Did Pardew say at any time. “I guarantee a 100% that Andy will not put in a transfer request?

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  • Rangerman

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #15

    Pardew is a liar because he’s employed by liars? That’s possibly the worst logic I’ve heard.

    It wasn’t that long ago that Hughton was supposed to be the puppet when he was first given the job, how short some peoples memories are.

    He said Carroll wouldn’t be sold and the club was knocking back offers until Carroll handed in a transfer request because he wanted to leave.

    He also said he was hoping for 2 new players not that he would definitely sign them, we’ve since found out that he was knocked back for certain players so he’s waiting until the summer rather than panic buying like we did last January with Best.

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  • lesh

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #16

    Ed, whether we rate Cole or not, the stupidity of declaring any interest now is that West Ham, like any other club know that potentially there’s £35m availalable and the selling price would be inflated accordingly.

    Let’s hope that this is just a bit of kite flying and that memories of the Carroll sale proceeds, fade thus enabling sensibly priced buys!

    I think we’ve seen enough evidence of a lack of forward-thinking in this episode when there was no credible replacement lined up for Carroll.

    Let’s hope it’s the last.

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  • Edd Case

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #17

    Think of the summer guys.

    We’ve only been promised £20million a year for transfers by fatty.

    This year, that’ll be £55million!!!!!!!!!

    Just think of the “NEW” Newcastle we could have for next season.

    We must keep Jose, Tiote, Colo, HBA, Barton, Ranger and add QUALITY to that lot.

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  • dubzy

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #18

    G,lol wa happens if we go down,justified then ,no,we new at sum stage we had 2 buy a striker an we never…….shame on mr ashley whos 35mil richer an parwho wnt c a penny of it……..fool

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #19

    AP , FAT ASH , DL, all proven liars (fact) why , why believe them any more ?

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  • lesh

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #20

    DrunkenSteve @7 has hit the nail right on the head…. it happens…. fact

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  • k-man

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #21

    Oh I read that FMA assured Pardew that the money from the sale would be reinvested into the team – oh jolly jolly…… more lies

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  • Rangerman

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #22

    We’ve only been promised £20million a year for transfers by fatty.

    …..

    Wrong.

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  • TheHeyman

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #23

    If the quote is correct, why is lambarse contacting the agent asking him if AC wants to go he must put in a request?

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  • Rangerman

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #24

    Ideally Pardew will look to bring in 2 new strikers, a right back and a centre back with the cash.

    If we get a decent standard of player in those positions we should improve massively over what we had earlier in the season when Carroll was here.

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  • dubzy

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #25

    so 20mil+35mil=55mil=LMFAO WE WILL C !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Davies

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #26

    http://soccerlens.com/lies-what-andy-carroll-and-newcastle-arent-telling-the-fans/64987/

    This is a fairly balanced account of what could have happened, but we’ll never know for sure.

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  • Rangerman

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #27

    If the quote is correct, why is lambarse contacting the agent asking him if AC wants to go he must put in a request?

    ……

    So Carroll wouldn’t be entitled to his share of the transfer fee, likely to be 10%

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  • JohnnyBrookes

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #28

    Total BS – Why is it you lot are willing to beleive this when he clearly stated,

    “Andy Carroll will not be sold” he is mouthpiece for Ashley and nothing more anyone expecting that money to be spent is deluded.

    So we let 3 players go, and signed a loanee on the cheap with no option to buy. Good call.

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  • Big Al 1970

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #29

    @ Rangerman

    YES, it is a logic – AP constantly moved the goal posts all the time during the window – each week we were expecting the incomings – first it was Saturday, then it was the next Sunday, then – a week later. Finally, we got a crocked CM, when we needed [and still need] a striker, RW and a deputy LB!!! And about Routhledge – did we get the promised substitution with ‘better quality’? Rangerman?

    I call this lying – how do you categorize it?

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  • Rangerman

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #30

    Total BS – Why is it you lot are willing to beleive this when he clearly stated,

    “Andy Carroll will not be sold”

    ……..

    Because Pardew like everyone else presumed Carroll didn’t want to leave, he did and handing in a transfer request totally changed the situation.

    Surely you can see that?

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  • Ratfink

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #31

    Reading all the reports , I dont think anyone is lying. Its all interpretation.

    AC: I wasnt wanted, Newcatle told me to put in TR.
    Means they didnt want to pay me what I’m worth so they dont want me. The only way I could go was to request it, I was backed into a corner its not my fault guv.

    Pardew: I will never sell Carrol, He asked for a new contract which would break our wage structure, so told him if he wants to go he has to request it.

    Same story as above for AC, never selling means nobody would pay us the amount of money we would want, except a desperate liverpool (£35 Mil !!!!!!!)

    Its two sides to the same story.

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  • Rangerman

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #32

    I call this lying – how do you categorize it?

    …..

    I call it a manager finding it tough to bring in the players he wants during a tricky January window, he started off optimistic and as the week goes by and deals were falling through you could tell he was less confident.

    He did make comments about Routledge’s replacement saying that he might not be a straight replacement but he will be a different option in midfield, that to me sounds like Ireland.

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  • Big Al 1970

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #33

    @ Rangerman

    ‘Presumed’ that AC won’t put a transfer request’ – BS!!! He is the manager for God sake to take care of the situation whichever it might develop[it’s a dynamic world, you kno’]

    He had to communicate with his players, their agents, their WAGS, so on and so forth- he put his head that AC won’t leave – then HAD TO deliver it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Big Al 1970

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #34

    @ Rangerman

    Then why AP spoke whenever it was possible that he is working on new transfers during January?

    When CH was managing – he kept quiet AND DELIVERED [Cheick, HBA to name a few]!

    When your favourite [flopped time after time] AP has explained in details how optimistic he is that he’ll deliver – 0, zero, blank!!!

    No end product, weaker squad, disgruntled group of lads, angry fans. Simple. Facts. No more explanations needed.

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  • JohnnyBrookes

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #35

    Rangerman??

    Really, so what makes you think for one second that we will get this money? so if Andy Carroll was sold, when guaranteed not to be? What happened to building a team around him? The winger we were getting? to let Routledge go, the Striker we needed?

    Remember when Keegan said “Milner will not be sold” then he was!!

    I want to come back here int he Summer and say, told you so. Tiote will go, as will Enrique and we will be f*****d. There is no ambition at this club, why would Ben Arfa want to stay or Tiote.

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  • boater

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #36

    Put Carroll to one side for a minute. What happened to replacing Kadar, Routledge, Xisco and Smith? I thought ‘no one was leaving’ and we had ‘bids in for players’, etc.

    Puncheon, martins, vela, sturridge, keane, on and on and on – were all snapped up by teams around us. We didn’t just sit still in this transfer market – which is equivalent to moving backwards, we actually moved backwards!?!!?

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  • BW4EVER

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #37

    It is beginning to sound like Andy Carrol was tapped up by Liverpool PRIOR to us accepting the offer.

    This is the smoking gun. See, we would have HAD to accept an offer for Carroll to demand an increase relative to Pools. How else did he know the new wages ? So why ask for a transfer request on the back of a wage pay rise when you did not know the terms of the new club….

    UNLESS the club had ALREADY accepted an offer PRIOR to Carrol submitting an offer !!!!

    There you have it !

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  • Rangerman

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #38

    Of course he presumed Carroll didn’t want to leave! It was only earlier this week Carroll was saying he didn’t want to leave and wanted to stay for life.

    Then he does a complete U turn and hands in a transfer request, surely that obviously changes everything?!

    The stance was always that Carroll was not for sale because we believed he didn’t want to leave, even up until early afternoon yesterday when we knocked a bid back.

    He then handed in a transfer request which made it a whole new ball game, he wanted out so the club let him.

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  • JohnnyBrookes

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #39

    Boater and big Al, thank god some people can actually see whats going on!!

    why do you guys think Huhgton went really?? Ashley wanted to sell Carroll plain and simple Pardew is an easy lap dog for him.

    WE GOT ONE PLAYER!!! And lost three, plus injuries. And ashley will cut and run with the cash, hopefully he sells up before all our best players go, this is asset stripping for sure.

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  • Rangerman

    Feb 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #40

    Then why AP spoke whenever it was possible that he is working on new transfers during January?

    …….

    He was asked what was happening so he tried to keep the fans updated, I actually preferred Hughton’s way of keeping quiet but even he came out and said how the club was working on deals etc.

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