Pardew – Newcastle Not Affluent Like The Big Clubs


One of the things that Alan Pardew said when he joined Newcastle in December, is that the club  was one of the top five clubs in England.

Alan Pardew – Newcastle are not affluent like the big clubs

Well maybe not right now, and yesterday Alan  said it would take two to three years before that would actually happen – in the sense that Newcastle could finish up there amongst the top five teams in the Premier League.

In a very uncomfortable press conference yesterday, in which Alan to his credit,  never ducked his responsibilities as manager, but hardly looked comfortable at all, explained that Newcastle are not a rich club:

“The situation was made clear when I arrived, the financial structure of this club was not an affluent one in terms of what other big clubs can produce in salaries and fees for players,”

“That was made clear to me. So I can’t moan about it now. I can look anyone in the eye and say it is an extraordinary offer for the player and we now have to use it to good effect.”

“You have to invest over a period to compete with these guys. We are short of top, top Premier League players to compete at the top-six level, where we should be. “

“Can you do it after just coming up from the Championship? No. Can you do it in two or three years’ time? Yes.”

“Can I now believe that is going to happen? I have got to believe it is going to happen.”

With Newcastle getting 52,000 gates and a fanatical support base, why are Newcastle not more affluent?  After all we will start getting the phenomenal Premier League money from the world wide TV rights, which will only increase.

The answer is because we are not successful, and therefore we do not get big bucks from the shirt sponsors and the like.

And of course we don’t get any income at all from Europe right now, because at the moment we don’t participate there.   That’s why being successful generates the money – big time.

If we are successful we will pack them in every week at St. James’ Park (52,000 average home gates) and the away crowds will be bigger because we will attract the fans to watch us, because we have exciting players in the side like Andy – whoops – cannot say that now.

If Mike Ashley wants to make Newcastle a more valuable club in terms of how much they are worth – in terms of money –  which he clearly understands – then make the side successful – the more successful Newcastle are the m,ore money he can get for the club when he sells – that’s a nice thought.

But we are afraid that’s not the main item on his agenda – and the events of the last few days suggest we may be going back to how the club was run in the 1980s, when we were a selling club.

As Alan Pardew said over the weekend – if we keep selling out best players we’ll never be a good team.

We’d like to think that there are plans at the club to get us back into Europe within a couple of years at most – and then we can re-establish the great name Newcastle United had when Kevin Keegan and Bobby Robson managed the club.

We were a big club then in every way!

Why do I feel that’s not where the club is going right now?



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45 comments so far

  • geoff777

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #1

    Get out of our club … bunch of lying losers.

    Pardew makes me sick – he has no credibility … hate the sight of the man.

    Resign Pardew – all you’ve done since you were appointed is lie to the fans.

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  • leedodd

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #2

    AT The End Of the Day Alan Pardew Didnt want to Sell Andy and its not his Fault . Andy was Forced Out By Derek Lambias why Else did Ashleys helicopter Head for Scouse land so quickly to collect the £35 million was it on THE fat cat Helicopter on the way Home. WE NOW HAVE TO GET ASHLEY OUT !!!!!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

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  • El Geordieo

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #3

    it was carrolls decision man he didnt have to go he went for money he was thinking of going to spurs as they offerred him 5 million in his pocket but they didnt offer nufc enough once 35 million was offered and carroll made his intentions known course they wanted him gone, I cant stand them in charge but howay man it was carrolls decision get over it

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  • Sinner

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #4

    Please Pardew,start Lovenkrands tonight along with Ameobi! ^______^

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  • geoff777

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #5

    Pardew made promises to us all.

    Now those promises are broken (for whatever reason) he should resign his position.

    Pardew = Puppet = Liar

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  • Indian Magpie

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #6

    NUFC does not win any thing like the big clubs

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  • JohnnyBrookes

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #7

    Look the Scousers managed to get rid of Hicks and Gillett, constant protesting and whinging, but it did the trick.

    Something needs to be done now, or the club will continue to decline All those pro Ashley will be singing a different tune come the Summer when we get no players and we sell bull and tiote.

    We are getting left behind by literally everyone, nobody seems to care that we effectively spent nothing and earned 35m in this window.

    We need him to sell and we need something done now.

    Is anyone protesting at SJP at any time soon?

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  • geoff777

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #8

    Andy wanted a wage increase to about what Colo is getting –

    Ashley wasted on one spin of the roulette wheel enough to pay Carroll’s new terms until the start of next season.

    Pardew should have said – I’ve made promises because you promised me Mike. I’ll have to resign if Andy Carroll is sold.

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  • CaseyJames

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #9

    They used Ashleys copter so he could get there quickly and maybe have a chance of getting someone in……..

    Need to remember Andy Carroll left because he wanted to!

    Support the boys! In the summer we can build!

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  • dak76

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #10

    We will NEVER be a top 6 team while Ashely is in control, Fact.

    We’re a big club in terms of fan base ONLY, Fact.

    All these new contracts for the players means one thing and one thing only – Top dollar for when they’re sold. Players are more valuable to selling clubs (like ours has become) when they’re on long term contracts as Ashley can hold onto them until the best offer comes in like for AC.

    Gutted and dissapointed that he actually left for liverpool, if he actually did want to stay he could have said no and renegotiated is contract in the summer……. but he didn’t and saw the $$ signs from merseyside….

    At best we’ll be mid to lower table, bringing on players to sell them on for a profit.

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  • daneevz

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #11

    what r u lot on about?? im no MA fan he does talk thru his ass but i like pardew got the team playing best i seen for a while and its not his fault Greedy Carroll wanted mo money or he was gonna leave! For someone who was gutted to leave i never seen him look so happy in merseyside (Wa*k*r) we all loved greedy bolluxe but we hav to except he did us over big time for a higher wage when 25k was good enough in oct. as he said in his interview “when i heard liverpool made a firm offer i thought it was a great opportunity i couldnt turn dwn” Good Toon Man Thru And Thru!! Wa*k*r!!

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  • TS -77

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #12

    Guess we still bleed after the Sheperd era were silly money was spent on bad buys and high salaries. It takes time to recover and maybe thats why the board set the 5 year plan to get the club on sound financiell footing again. Not spend to big, a sencible wagecap. If Andy didnt want to be a part of that and break the wagecap – so be it. Sad to see a local promising 22 year old nr 9 go but thats life.

    Lets get on with it, secure premiership status and find some bargains in the summer!

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  • doddsy

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #13

    please every one read what andy carroll had to say about. his move liverpool fc website its very intresting or the skysports web site

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  • Zangwill_Ho

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #14

    Me must lose tonight and big lose also

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  • JohnnyBrookes

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #15

    daneevz – are you for real mate?

    Why would Carroll not want a pay rise, when he is being valued at 35m, they should just have paid it.

    What do you expect him to say to Liverpool? No i hate you guys, I didn’t want to come here, its shit.

    BTW all pro ashley here is the scousers new chant for Carroll:

    He Always Knew he was a Red Carroll Carroll, Hes Got a Dirty greasy head Carroll Carroll, He punches Birds, He burns his House, But we don’t care that’s F*****g Scouse Andy Carroll……. Liverpool No 9

    Awesome cheers mike alan and derek

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  • carrollsinger

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #16

    Carroll didn’t have to sign he did this for money would like to see best again tonight team harper simmo willo colo bull barton Nolan gutrie jonas shola/ranger? best

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  • jarra geordie

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #17

    I understand peoples disapointment about Andy but calling for Pardew to resign is not that solution in my opinion.

    Don’t think there would be a long list of top candidates for the job.

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  • cla5hb0y68

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #18

    Machiavelli Ashley has made a profit in every transfer window, whilst slashing spending on running the club to the bone. Once he’s got back his investment and some profit he’ll be gone. Still people want to give Ashley the benefit of the doubt, still they wait to see if he keeps his latest promises. Look at how he operates, he’s a proven liar, he installs a puppet manager who he can manipulate yet still people can’t see it. Wake up! Work out how much has been spent on transfers in to the club compared with how much has been made in past transfer windows during his time here.

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  • alienhunter

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #19

    Does Andy Carroll represent value at £35 million? In my opinion, no.

    Was it likely we would have have got top 6 with him this season? Again, very unlikely in my view.

    Will we get relegated this season? Not in my view.

    When you are talking multi-millions is there a big difference in finances between 8th and 14th, our likely finishing position? No.

    Could we have waited and got £35 million in the summer for him? I don’t think so, it really was extreme circumstances built on Liverpool panic and desperation.

    Can we spend £35 million and build a better team (without Carroll) than if we kept him in the Summer? I think so, especially with Graeme Carr on the case with 5 months to scout.

    Are many Newcastle fans not thinking logically and using this as an excuse to wet their pants, shout and scream at Ashley .. when in fact, it actually makes good sense for the future of the club? Yep.

    Don’t get lulled into the tabloid-style, soap opera drama frenzy that Ed and the press are trying to whip up. They have other motives.

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  • daneevz

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #21

    Johnny Brookes ur takin the piss aint u?? should have paid it lol for a start hes not worth anywhere near 35m and how would other players take that like J.Barton he has to take a paycut to sign new deal and u expect them to triple carrolls wages after signing a contract in oct ur trippin m8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that would have caused chaos

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  • ibhemma

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #22

    Ashley is a liar. He has lied to us before and will lie again. I do not trust people that lie, in my own life never mind a man that rubs the club I love. I am past upset, hurt and anger. I am numb. I support the team and am going game tonight. The whole operation stinks. How are people on here having a go at Carroll?? I was a pro myself and now semi pro. No matter how much you love a club, if someone is willing to treble your wages you have to consider. smith, barton, coloccini, taylor, guti, nolan, even shol (a close friend), all earnt more than him.
    never mind wastes like owen, kluivert, boumsong, luque, viana who were also on more than him its disgusting and i feel he was well within his right to ask for a bumper wage rise – he deserved it. he didnt cost us a fee, he came through our academy and has done so well for us. Unless we feel as newcastle fans that because he came through academy he shud play for love and not want good wages like the others.???! Its a joke. I

    i feel sorry for the lad, he really didnt wanna go but its a principle thing as a footballer, it really is. ashley even put him on his own helicopter the fat cockney prat

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  • geoff777

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #23

    Should have turned Liverpool down – told Carroll to go back to Benton.

    Then Pardew wouldn’t have lied to the fans.

    Resign you puppet.

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  • Burni

    Feb 2, 2011 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #24

    I truly dont know what to think about this whole thing…….. £35m is a shed load of money and carroll did not HAVE to leave he did not HAVE to put his transfer request in at all. Pardew has done much better since he came in than im sure anyone thought. I think we will all have to wait til the end of the season to see if anything does get invested, if not i think Im gonna give up with NUFC loved them for 26 years now but one day things look excellent like when hughton was here, then the next he’s gone in poor circumstances, then Pardew comes in does a good job and we have one of the toughest old school centre forwards in the EPL then he goes…… if it does get reinvested then excellent but if not………. I dunno

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  • irishtoon191

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #25

    He’s gone lets get over it and get behind the lads for 3 points tonight!! Being doing fine without him the last few weeks!

    Still plenty of great players left, Carroll wouldnt of got alot of them goals without Bartons amazing balls in on his head!!

    HWTL

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  • geoff777

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #26

    C’mon they just sold our dreams, our future.

    We all know it that’s why we’re gutted.

    Someone could of said – We promised the fans not to sell him. We’ll behave with honour.

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  • wilson33

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #27

    why cant most of yous on here wake up carroll was forced out simple and to say we will spend the 35m in summer it will not happen 5 to 10m tops maybe but thats all cashley is a liar and will always will be and there will be more players out in the summer we will have a full team of cheap crap championship players like best and shola on small wages simple so to say why ashley could not match a better contract for carroll is wrong name 1 player in prem that is on his wages when he was at newcastle every player these days wants more money thats just the way it is plus agents make things worse but to make a good team and build on it youve got to spend just like the top 4 we did not have to spend millons just 2 to 3 players in till the summer then more but what did he do sell wore best and bring 1 in on loan says it all and will be the same in the summer same old mike ashley so its time to stand up and get cashley out if no where doomed we will never be able to move on

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  • RichK

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #28

    Why do some people want AP to resign? I agree with daneevz @ 11 we have been playing some of the best football I’ve seen for a number of years.

    £35m was a great deal for AC. Put that to bed now and get behind the lads for the rest of the season. 4 more wins and we’re secure for another year and hopefully MA sticks to his words and re-invests.

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  • charlieb

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #29

    All saying that Carroll did not have to leave, did not have to put in a transfer request.

    The club did not have to accept his transfer request. The club needed to stand firm and not sell our main goalscorer at a time when our safety is not guaranteed. The final decision to let Carroll go was there’s – and they did it without a back-up plan.

    Which I surely don’t have to remind people is utterly typical of Ashley.

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  • wilson33

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #30

    sorry richk i want ap to resign plus ashley out this club is doomed when these muppets are in charge things are going to get worse wake up man

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  • Charlietoon

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #31

    Ed for someone who reference’s how things were done at IBM so much, I have to ask how often did the people in charge go about whining and whinging about how terrible things were. and if so did you find this to be beneficial to the workers. You seem to love to mope and dwell and rehash every negative statement. One Pardew interview will yield four blogs because all you want to do is slam the team, the manager, the owner!! What the f***k?!?!

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  • wilson33

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #32

    ashley will sell his stars for more money to line his pockets any will never change well said charlieb ashley did not have to accept but he did

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  • jasonbourne

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #33

    geoff777 and wilson33.

    I know a great mental hospital for you guys.

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  • wilson33

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #34

    and ap is the yes man

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  • Sav

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #35

    What is clear from both Carroll’s and Pardew’s version of events is that the club did nothing in particular to persuade Andy to stay. Nor did they put their foot down and tell him it was too late in the day and he would have to remain until the summer. So much for man-management and negotiating to get what is best for the club.

    Also, so much for ‘last minute decision’ the bookies had Carroll 1/5 on Monday morning, so as usual, they knew far more than the rest of us. Did Llambias resist putting a few bob on to drive the odds so low?

    The way Liverpool handled sale of Torres – for top dollar and ONLY when they had all the reinforcements in place was professional and determined. But look at our shambles.

    Finally, both Llambias and Pardew appear to be claiming to be the one who asked Carroll for his transfer request in writing. Get your stories straight before stepping in front of the cameras, lads. It is the first rule of spin-doctoring.

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  • wilson33

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #36

    really i think you wanna go yourself if you belive more lies we are being told just waite till the summer and you will see what i mean

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  • wilson33

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #37

    this has been going on for 2 long no we need to stand up and mean business have had enough me like

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  • Sav

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #38

    I see there’s also some rowing back on how much will be spent in the summer – Pardew quietly slipped in that it now includes wages as well as fees.
    And what of Carroll’s wages we are saving, the money already earmarked for another player in January and the extra funds we will earn assuming we are still in the Premiership.
    Of course, if we are not, there’s no way we will be spending 35 million on Championship players, is there?

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  • dublin mag steve

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #39

    Look lads andys gone and nobody is more dissapointed than i am but the fact is we cannot afford to be turning down 35 million for a 22yr old who has only 17 games experience in the prem league, i remember a young emile heskey bagging about 20 goals 1 season for leicster and since his head went into a spin after his big money move he wouldnt hit a barn door with a bag full of balls im not saying that will happen to andy but it could now you have to believe that if that 35mill goes back into the team we will be much stronger as a club we dont have to go bargain hunting you have to think strikers will want to play with ireland barton benarfa and tiote and nolan if we stick to our guns we wont be far off where we want to be.

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  • CaseyJames

    Feb 2, 2011 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #40

    Sorry guys but I gotta say im unimpressed with the majority of so called fans on here….

    I think a lot of you are happier when you have something to complain about.

    If you look at it logically our club is actually on a steady road…. we are good financially and have a group of very talented young footballers at the club.

    Now 3 points tonight would be great!!!

    Support the team! We arent a 1 man team.

    Pardew has been great since he took over!

    You guys need a check up from the neck up!

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