Wise Words For Newcastle Fans From Kenny Dalglish


We looked at what former Newcastle manager Kenny Dalglish, now again installed as Liverpool manager, said after Fernando Torres took  a swipe at the famous Liverpool club.

Kenny Dalglish – wise words form Liverpool manager

Kenny reminded Liverpool fans that players always leave clubs and others come in – that’s the way of football – and it always has been.

We want to make a point here, but first here is what Kenny said in part:

“It has happened a lot. People forget that.” “Players leave the club and players come in, though more have come into this club than gone.”

“It’s no different now. People move on.” “The most important thing is the club.”

“More important and bigger than any individual, no matter who has been through it previously and who will in the future. The club is the club.”

“I will never forget that and anyone who does is being a wee bit stupid and irresponsible.”

“The most important people at the club are the ones who want to be here.”

And it’s a couple of things we want to stress from what Kenny has said above.

First of all, we could all embrace that last sentence, and it’s the players who are now at the Newcastle club who are important, the only ones who are important.

And also that no player is bigger than the football club, players come and go (and so do owners by the way), but the club and the fans go on forever.

Kenny pointed out that he may never have arrived at Liverpool in 1977 from Celtic, if Kevin Keegan hadn’t first left for Hamburg in Germany.

And of course maybe Sir Les Ferdinand and a certain Alan Shearer would never have arrived on Tyneside, if Andy Cole hadn’t first been sold for big bucks to Manchester United.

Torres leaving Liverpool is not unlike Carroll leaving Newcastle, the only difference is we’ll never ever hear the Newcastle club rubbished by local lad Andy Carroll.

That’s what  Torres has done by besmirching the famous  Liverpool club – which shows Fernando has no class, at least as a person.

And the fact is we have some very good players on Tyneside now, and the squad has the guts and spirit the relegation lot never had.

And we could still do well, even without Andy, whose now gone and will never come back.

As we said earlier, a win tonight would be terrific, and we’re sure that’s what our lads are aiming for.

If we can do that, we’ll celebrate it big time!



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60 comments so far

  • JohnnyBrookes

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #1

    That’s easy for him to say in the position of selling Torres and gaining 2 strikers.

    We sold our biggest asset and Gained NOTHING!

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  • pavel

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #2

    All those having a go at Carroll, remember that exactly the same things were said about Waddle, Beardsley and Gascoigne, but 20 years later do we think they were greedy mercenaries, or just that they made the natural decision to leave a selling club which was heading nowhere?

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  • boater

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #3

    @johnnybrookes – damned straight.

    The carroll recriminations are somehow distracting us from the fact that everyone else strengthened around us and we failed to do anything than muster an unwanted inured central midfielder – with no buy option.

    Even if carroll had stayed we would have lost a march on everyone, so much for the club being helpless to the timing of his departure.

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  • faustino

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #4

    Great stat – The starting Arsenal side that beat Everton last night cost 10 million less than Torres.

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  • SuperShearer

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #5

    Great post Ed. We need to move on. It still hurts, it will for a while but as you said we the supporters are what make the club and I’m certainly not going anywhere else to follow football. I love Newcastle, I always have and I always will. I’ll miss Big Andy but at the end of the day if someone offered me more than double my wages I would probably take it to. I wish him all the luck in the world and hope that as a club we can move on and show that no one player makes a club. Keep up the great work Ed.

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  • Charlietoon

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #6

    At last something positive!!! On and Up from here.

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  • faustino

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #7

    boater/johnny – I can totally agree on that. The criminal behavior was that even if AC hadn’t left we needed to strengthen and didn’t. Which is what has left us in this mess.

    If we’d of added cover for Jose, a winger of decent quality, Ireland and a young promising striker I don’t think selling the long haired charva would have been as bigger a deal.

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  • G.unit

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #8

    Although the last few days haven’t been the best for the supporters, I feel it is now time to move on and do what we do best and get behind the team tonight.

    A win would do very nicely and wouldn’t it be great if Shola got himself on the scoresheet and grabbed a couple or three. One can hope!!!!

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  • Spitfire

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #9

    We got £35m and got rid of a boy who is more interested in money than in wearing the number 9 shirt for NUFC. Same as Owen Viduka etc really. We should only keep players who WANT to be here -for whatever reason.

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  • JohnnyBrookes

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #10

    @boater

    Its as if some people are just willing to accept this and just go on, I feel like I am hitting a brick wall. Liverpool did really well out of this deal – two young hungry strikers and shipped out an out of form unhappy one.

    We bought no-one got rid of our best striker with no time to replace him. FFS we needed a striker before we got rid of Andy. This is indicative of what is going to happen at the club, we had Andy Carroll in the premiership for HALF a season, Not good enough.

    Arsenal didn’t sell Fabregas, we are getting well ad truly seen off by the board. 35 m is only a good deal if we had got another striker in of the same quality which we wont if we cant pay decent wages. People forget Fabregas etc are on 80-100k a week,

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  • pavel

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #11

    Spitfire, do you really believe that WE got 35 million? Personally I couldn’t care about the Liar’s bank balance, but surely no one can believe any promises from them that the money will be spent on players.

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  • wynsleap

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #12

    It’s totally correct that the players who are at the club at the moment are the most important ones.
    The worrying problem is what these ‘important’ players are thinking at the moment and whether they intend to STAY important (or indeed whether The Controller allows them to stay)
    We’ll not know until the next transfer window
    I guess.

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  • boater

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #13

    @Spitfire – I think we can put to bed the idea of any ‘players wanting to be here’ for the love of the shirt.

    This is a lesson in reality. Carroll probably didn’t want to go, but the reality is we have a wage structure and spending policy on a par with Stoke City now. Fine, but we have the third biggest gate in the country.

    It’s not just about closing your eyes and hoping players will resist moves, cos they love the toon. We have to be realistic about our lack of competitiveness, not just throw out accusations of disloyalty and judas, etc.

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  • z4

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #14

    is carroll never cumin to nufc agin?????

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  • Vest

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #15

    Not so long ago, there was a lot of shouting on here, that players that didn’t want to be here, should go. But what has happened now? Big Andy wanted to go (handed in a transfer request, so fact) but now it is the board and owner that are scum.

    You sound like some schizophrenic who just shout out what the press wants you to.

    Yes, we were in Europe when Fat Freddy was here. But for how long? When would we be bank robed? Specially in the financial crises the whole world came in. We were lucky, that Mike Ashley came in to rescue us with his money. And I’m sure that he would have liked to use his money on new quality players instead of the big black hole of loans and other debt.

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  • Spitfire

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #16

    Boater

    I agree Carroll probably did not want to go but he also did not want to stick to his recently signed contract. Signed in full knowledge of the wage structure in force at the time. I dislike Ashlet et al butI can fully understand what he is doing and why he is doing it and I reluctantly support it.

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  • oldbobaycliffe

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #17

    what ever the reason carroll was sold,surely at 21 years of age with a 5 yr contract only signed in october there was no rush to sell him all pardew had to say was come back in the summer after all staying in the pl is more vital than money in the bank.liverpool spent torres money straight away on 2 players 50 mill in 58 mill out

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  • boater

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #18

    @Johnny Brookes – aye.

    The clue for me was that having sold our no.9, the only one player that we officially bid for in those last panicky 2 hours was a left winger. Zog may seem a ridiculous option, but the club KNEW we needed strengthening in that position. What the hell has that got to do with Carroll going?

    Seeing oba, keane, puncheon, vela all going on loan to possible fellow relegation teams rivals is madness. What the HELL we were doing over entire month, let alone that last hour on monday night?

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  • WesJameson

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #19

    F@ck Kenny Dalglish & F@ck Andy(i beat woman) Carrol too, I havent posted in a while, but now, with that complete idiot Carrol, leaving….i feel distgusted and now this pr!ck kenny dalglish, comes and says something like this….WE GOT FEKKING NO ONE IN TO REPLACE HIM,YOU GOT 2 NEW WORLD CLASS STRIKERS YOU F@CKING AR2E HOLE

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  • lewman

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #20

    arsenal where offered 30 million for a player who is worth way more than carroll, he assisted the goal that won the recent world cup and got 19 goals and 19 assists last season from 36 games in mid field.

    fabregas is already established as a great, so you can understand arsenal not selling him for a lesser fee than carroll.

    i would look at valencia as an example to what can be done. they sold villa and silva and are now sitting in 4th spot in la liga.

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  • WesJameson

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #21

    @ boater // Feb 2, 2011 at 12:29 PM

    Mate, its been like this for every transfer window, bar,the start of this campaign, when we got Tiote….ETC….NUFC is cursed, im now proper convinced of that, i have thought so for years now, now im totally sure of it….NOTHING EVER GOES RIGHT FOR US FFS

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  • Davies

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #22

    I don’t think he’ll never come back. I think we’ll have him back off the Pool in the next season or two for half what we sold him for.

    The main cause will be that he gets confused when he plays against the toon and scores goals for us.

    That, for those of you who didn’t notice, was a joke, however, I wouldn’t rule out a return in the next few years, maybe when he’s grown up a bit …. if he really does love the club.

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  • lewman

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #23

    davies i thought about that when he first left but the 5 and a half year contract he signed made me stop thinking that in an instant

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  • boater

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #24

    Spitfire,

    Thing is, any business HAS to run with a smarter understanding of human nature, which sees us ALL at some point seizing an opportunity to get rich.

    It’s perilous to just say well Carroll didn’t want to be here, he’s a judas – board did nowt wrong, etc. The board’s job is to engage the players in a vision for the future, with investment in top players, as well as a competitive salary which reflects size of the club and the money coming in on the back of us, providing the third biggest gate in the country.

    It’s a bit like the way the NHS used to say ‘well nurses don’t need paying much cos they love helping people’, followed by a massive problem in filling jobs for decades, and having to outsource from Thailand and filipines, to fill the positions that no one is prepared to do in this country.

    If carroll – ‘mr. newcastle’ wants to go, you can bet Tiote, barton and enrique – smashing lad as he is – will be off too when the summer comes.

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  • Davies

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #25

    lewman – Two words – Robbie Keane – Cost a mind, didn’t work out, sold back to spurs on the cheap. I know, new owners, different manager, but still, if Carroll doesn’t deliver what’s expected of him, it could happen.

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  • Sav

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #26

    Why didn’t they wait until summer to do this deal?
    We may even have been in 7th spot (pretty unlikely now) and in Europe. Instead we strengthen massively the hand of one of those 4 or 5 clubs we have to get OUT of the top 4 so we can be in it.
    With next summer being the final window before the new fiscal responsibility rules come in, big players will be at a premium then and Carroll will doubtless have another couple of England caps on his wall. Perhaps, ManU, Man City, Real Madrid, Inter or S*land (joking) would have been in for him by next July.
    This was a stupid deal because of the timing, more than anything else. The interest Ashley will accrue on 35mil is the only upside.
    The club could have:
    a) paid Andy another 40k a week (cost 2 million until midsummer).
    b) Persuaded him to take a powder until summer when he could have new contract or a transfer of his choice.
    c) Reminded him of his 4.75 year contract and told him to knuckle down and pull his weight for his teammates’ sake, for the club, for his reputation.

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  • Shot Bru

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #27

    I don’t understand what all the panic is about….we don’t need a replacement for Carroll till the end of the season when there will be more value in the market….we have played a much better brand of football since Carroll has been out injured and he will possibly be out for another month anyway….probably more considering his lifestyle….we have quality all over the midfield and will be boosted further with the return of HBA.. Thank goodness we didn’t sell Enrique!! At the end of the day we got £35 million for a player who has potential and Man utd got Hernandez for £7 million who has potential….

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  • WesJameson

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #28

    @ Davies // Feb 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM

    Mate, F@ck Andy Carrol, i for one don’t ever want to see him in Newcastle Upon Tyne AGAIN, infact i hope he never returns to the North East EVER again, little F@cking Ar2eHole

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  • supermacnumber9

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #29

    Players come players go – NUFC will allways be there
    Have we all forgotten the George Eastham court case?
    Does anyone else remember the fuss when local heroes Keith Dyson & Alan Suddick were sold – both to Blackpool, at least we got Tony Green for Dyson.
    By the way, do we now play without a number 9?

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  • Widowmaker

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #30

    A bit harsh here, I am. But as much as I like Kenny as a person, his arrival at Newcastle was unfortunately the decline of my club at the late 90s.

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  • Sav

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #31

    But they did none of the above and to me, that is bad judgement. I don’t know about IBM but you don’t sell your best asset to one of your biggest rivals and call it good business.
    Liverpool have been rocking, Gerrard’s getting on, the defence isn’t great and Torres was underperforming.
    We’ve just knacked ourselves and helped them on. Massively.
    We are being run by a guy who thinks good judgement is picking the right number a ball-bearing is going to land on. What more can I say?

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  • Sav

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #32

    supermacnumber9 – not many will remember the George Eastham case but I don’t think you can either or you would not be comparing it with this latest cock-up.
    As for Dyson to Blackpool, he was the makeweight in our purchase of Greena and I didn’t hear any fuss about it.

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  • boater

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #33

    Ed – why don’t you close the boards down when you move over to a new page,, it’s like trying to chase a mouse around the bleeding house following your pages.

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  • WesJameson

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #34

    @ Sav // Feb 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM

    Couldnt agree more mate, well said

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  • Spitfire

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #35

    A lot of people are assuming that Carroll is going to do the business at Liverpool and that we have just shot ourselves in the foot when in fact,……..oh I can’t be bothered with this anymore its boring ….bye…..

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  • Geordie Jonny

    Feb 2, 2011 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #36

    At the end you say that Andy will never play for us again but I think once Ashley and Llambias are gone he would happily come back. He’s black and white through and through and he’ll realise that soon enough.

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  • Dan_008

    Feb 2, 2011 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #37

    Carroll is gone.. its not the end of the world! get over it..

    and he was not worth 80K a week….

    there are other players in the team…

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  • Oleg G

    Feb 2, 2011 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #38

    Can it be that also a lot of players don’t want to come to Newcastle, the city? I mean, because it is not in the south but in the north of the country? The cold, the place is far away from the famous cities (so players from abroad like more the “center” of the country and the Biggest cities?).

    Apart from the wages, I think there is also a problem of bringing some players in because of those factors. I am not saying everybody, but some. I mean, HBA came etc, but I think that still, a lot of players say – Newcastle, yeah, great club to play in, but aa… I don’t know. West Ham/Everton/Aston Villa etc I would prefer to play in a team in that area.

    Because we are only looking for players who want to play only in our team. but that is almost impossible. Players want to play in a number of teams, there is only a couple that will say – I want to play only in this club, and usually those are just local lads (not including Andy “show me da money” Carroll).

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  • Mattyp123

    Feb 2, 2011 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #39

    just want to say, yeah its a shame that AC left obviously but at the end of the day we’ve done more than alright since he has been injured! lets face it we were going to lose him one day, its just a shame that one day come a lot sooner than we first thought! and yeah its crap that we didnt get anyone in to replace it but i would rather have a young lads haver a crack at the whip and not have rushed signed in someone as a quick fix! right now AP is our manager and in him we have to trust or whats the point :)! first post btw so dont be to nasty haha!

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  • lesh

    Feb 2, 2011 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #40

    Ed – why don’t you close the boards down when you move over to a new page?

    Agreed Ed, great as your blogs are, I can’t get beyond page one on my mobilea and thus can’t read on or even comment. Can’t comment? Thank gawd some might say!

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