FA Embarrass Themselves Again Over Nile Ranger

Nile Ranger pulled out of the England U20 squad this last week with a back  injury.

Nile Ranger – hopefully will be fit for tomorrow’s game

But a difficulty presumably with what happened this week was with the procedure followed – Ranger didn’t have his injury assessed by England’s medical staff.

But what does the FA want to do here?

Imagine what would have happened if Ranger had played for England and had been injured – and say he was out for the season.

At the time Shola Ameobi was out for two months with his depressed cheekbone, and Leon Best had limped out of the game against Arsenal with a hamstring injury – so Newcastle at best (excuse the pub) had two fit strikers in Lovenkrands and Ranger.

And after Saturday’s game we asked the question whether Newcastle would withdraw Nile Ranger from the U20 squad.

If they had done it without Ranger being injured it would have been to protect Newcastle’s interests,  and don’t forget Newcastle pay the wages of Nile Ranger – not the English FA.

Imagine at the same time if Leon Best was out for weeks with his hamstring problem.

Newcastle would be in a right mess now, as far as strikers were concerned. Newcastle pay the lad’s wages so this club versus country argument is a lot more complex than just showing up every time to play for your country.

That’s even more true,  when the player is at a top club, who play almost two games a week though most of the season.

There is a story out today that England may make an example of Nile Ranger, it’s re[ported in the Evening Chronicle, by possibly  banning him from tomorrow’s game at Blackburn Rovers.

More nonsense from the FA, obviously.

It’s just  complete nonsense, and of course Newcastle are well aware of letting their players go away  to play for their countries.

We all remember when Michael Owen missed most of the 2005-2006 season though  injury, but was rushed back to play for England in the World Cup in Germany in the summer of 2006, and was injured.

Michael was then out for all of the following seaosn, except for a  few games at the end of the 2007-2007 season.

This is what Nile Ranger said about the back injury he picked up last Saturday:

“My back was killing me at the start of the week,” “I was just doing a few swimming sessions to get back, and it feels sorted now.”

“It’s still a bit sore. I could only do a little bit (yesterday), and we’ll see how it feels.” “I hope to be ready if the gaffer throws me in.”

Nile is still waiting for his first PL goal, but if he plays like he did in those last 17 minutes last Saturday,  that first goal will not be too far off.

Nile continued:

“Andy’s gone, and it puts me up the pecking order along with Shola being injured,”    “It gives me a chance – and I want to take it. I was shocked when Andy went, I really was.”

“He’s a Geordie, and he got the No9 shirt he wanted. He’s supported the club all his life and watched players like Alan Shearer wear that shirt. I thought he’d be here for years to come.”

“It would have been good being in partnership with Andy, but we still have good strikers – Besty, Peter Lovenkrands and Shefki Kuqi.” “I don’t know the full situation, but it’s a chance.”

We heard Lord Triesman, the former FA chairman, talking about his resignation from the FA last May, at a parliamentary select committee inquiry this week, and he revealed just how incompetent the organization really is – and does nothing – well nothing useful that is.

But the FA have been ineffective and incompetent for many years – so this is nothing new.

Coming up with this sort of nonsense about Nile Ranger this week,  is just another indication of how they seem to live on another planet, and haven’t anything better or more useful to do.

You’re right – we’ve never been big fans of the English FA, and this is not the first time we’ve  pointed out they are little short of incompetent. 😀

Comments welcome.

31 comments so far

  • BeeGuy

    Feb 11, 2011 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #1

    Several solutions exist to this:

    Remind the FA Nile has had trouble with the law (see Joey Barton)

    Sell off anyone other than goalies who might be good enough for a call-up with any national team.

    Drop back down to the Championship or League 1 to stay out of the FA’s sight.

  • Mags

    Feb 11, 2011 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #2

    Or fight our corner and bombard them with complaints. I have already done this.

    Not that it makes any difference like, but I feel better for doing it. 😀

  • Mags

    Feb 11, 2011 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #3

    I think they cringe everytime they see my FAN No. and think Noooooo not that lass again!!! 😀

  • rahuliogeordio

    Feb 11, 2011 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #4

    A solution for the FA would be to stop having meaningless friendlies at strange times.

    Then teams and players would value the England shirt more – it shouldn’t be a club vs country debate, it should be a privilege to play for both and not a tossup.

  • Markaccus

    Feb 11, 2011 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #5

    I read that something like 22 british and irish players were withdrawn from their various age group national sides, which is the only reason the fa are not going to make an example of ranger, however, I see their point. How can england improve their prospects in tournaments if the big players are always withdrawn from friendlies? They have to practice playing together before the meaningful games. Ok, one key player should not matter too much, but often 5 or 6 big names go missing, and that is detremental to our chances. On the other side of it, the friendlies should be timed better, not in the thick of the decisive part of the season

  • wynsleap

    Feb 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #6

    FA is exactly what this shower knows about football.
    According to the Sun they were about to stop Ranger playing against Blackburn tomorrow but when they found out that Smalling of Manure had called off too without medical evidence – they couldn’t do anything.
    Let’s not upset Man U (or any other top 4 outfit)in any way, shape or form whatever we do? Even to the extent of banning both.
    The whole set up is corrupt.
    Having said all that, The Toon only have themselves to blame for the striking situation they are now in. If two good strikers had been brought in BEFORE Carroll was sold they could have let Nile go and play for his country without too much of a worry.
    An old story though, now done to death.
    (If Nile wasn’t doubtful by the way, I feel sorry for him missing out on the chance to play for England. He shouldn’t be missing out on national recognition just because of the miserable failings and mismanagement of his club).

  • Solaidback

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #7

    wynsleap @ 6 – So you wanted the club to buy another 2 strikers & add them to the 6 we already have (excluding the kids) & then what???

    What if Carroll hadn’t been sold, Strola injured & Xisco loaned out, we’d have 8 strikers in the 1st team & not all of them would have played so it would have been a complete waste of time buying the 2 extra don’t you think… oh yeah, you didn’t think!!!

    As for the club v country rubbish, the club pays the wages & playing for your country is supposedly a honour which looks good on your CV but if a player is pulled by their club, the FA shouldn’t be able to do anything about it!!!

    A way around this would be for the FA to pay players to play for their country, that way I doubt you’d get many players puling out for no reason & on top of that, if the FA wanted to make an example of Ranger, would they also make an example of Gerrard, as he also pulled out of the England 1st team….. as I said, all rubbish!!!!

  • GeordieGerman

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #8

    Couldn’t we have been honest about it? Wouldn’t the FA see the position we are in regarding strikers and give us leeway?

  • Davies

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #9

    Funny innit. Joey Barton can’t buy an England starting berth.

    I do think the England squad should play together more. Most other countries’ teams do. This is probably why England are shi7 at the moment.

  • dave 1961

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #10

    I have decided to ask some questions of the FA as it would be a breach of EU employment law, & also in breach of the 1807 abolition of slavery act.

    Dear sirs,

    could you please advise on this article that appeared in this morning’s daily mirror newspaper, if this article is true & you had carried out this threat, you would have breached European employment law,
    And a breach of the 1807 abolition of slavery act as amended 1833, this forbids by legal penalty servitue. & in breach of both civil & criminal law.

    1. thralldom, enthrallment. Slavery, bondage, servitude refer to involuntary subjection to another or others. Slavery emphasizes the idea of complete ownership and control by a master: to be sold into slavery. Bondage indicates a state of subjugation or captivity often involving burdensome and degrading labor: in bondage to a cruel master. Servitude is compulsory service, often such as is required by a legal penalty: penal servitude. 4. moil, labor.
    FA to ban players who snub England
    FA bosses will stun football next month by launching a long-awaited fightback against Premier League clubs that sabotage the England team.
    An epidemic of player withdrawals from England sides this week convinced FA officials that enough was enough.
    They are now so fed up with England teams being undermined, they are ready to declare war on clubs who try to cheat the system.
    Starting from the next international date, they will ban players who fail to report for England duty from playing for their club the following weekend.
    They were ready to make an example of Newcastle striker Nile Ranger this weekend after he pulled out of Wednesday’s England Under-20 match against France without first being checked over by FA medical staff.
    Ranger was to be banned from playing against Blackburn tomorrow, but they were forced to postpone the action when they realised Manchester United defender Chris Smalling had been allowed to cry off Under-21 duty without reporting to England.
    FIFA rules give the FA the power to prevent a player whose injury has not been verified by England medical staff from playing for his club for five days after an international fixture.
    Until now, the FA has not enforced the rule as a gesture of goodwill towards clubs but 22 withdrawals from the full England side and the Under-21s, Under-20s and Under-19s has forced them to act.
    The FA are determined to present a united front for the next round of international fixtures at the end of March and enforce the FIFA rule.
    If a club insists on fielding a player who had pulled out of an England match without consultation, that club will forfeit the match the player plays in.
    The rule would not have affected Steven Gerrard’s availability to play for Liverpool against Wigan tomorrow because his groin injury was checked by England medical staff.
    The FA’s new get-tough approach is sure to antagonise Premier League clubs who have grown used to trampling over the England set-up.
    But their hard-line stance will delight supporters who blame the clubs’ reluctance to release players for England’s continuing failures at international level.
    Newcastle have been identified as a problem club for the England team after previous arguments over the availability of Andy Carroll, who has been sold to Liverpool.
    They were desperate to protect Ranger from injury after Carroll’s sale and an injury to Shola Ameobi left them short of attacking options.
    But an annexe to Fifa’s statutes is clear.
    “A player who has been called up by his association for one of its representative teams,” they say, “is, unless otherwise agreed by the relevant association, not entitled to play for the club with which he is registered during the period for which he has been released or should have been released pursuant to the provisions of this annexe.
    “This restriction on playing for the club shall, moreover, be prolonged by five days in the event that the player, for whatsoever reason, did not wish to or was unable to comply with the call-up.”
    The problem is not confined to England.
    In a bizarre case, Sparta Prague withdrew Czech duo Tomas Pekhart and Vaclav Kadlec and Croatian defender Manuel Pamic from international duty for fitness reasons this week – then fielded all three in a friendly against Zenit St Petersburg in Spain on Wednesday.
    In an apparent attempt to disguise the players’ identities, their names didn’t appear on the teamsheet and the three wore jerseys with teammates’ names on them – Pamic playing as Jakub Podany, Kadlec as Pavel Kaderabek and, most bizarrely of all, Pekhart, who is white, as black Cameroonian midfielder Martin Abena.
    Sparta’s plan seems to have been rumbled when a Czech journalist recognized the players in photos posted on Zenit’s website.

  • gorskino10

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #11

    I love how they jumped on Niles back after missing the international U21’s but didnt do the same with Smalling and others who miss i suppose they would always investigate us and not Man United! What scum the FA truly are. also for the full international match Gerrard didnt play but will on the weekend, Rio Ferdinand has missed soooooooo many international and then on the weekend played for United, Kyle Walker was fit and scored a goal at the weekend for Villa and will be playing at the weekend too, Jordan Henderson will be playing for Scumderland at the weekend and also Struidge will be playing for Bolton who also pulled out but typical FA being t**ts they go after us for one player and not anyone else!

  • Stuart

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #12

    You do get paid to play for your country, at least you do for england, but the fee is donated straight to charity. It’s only 2 or 3k or something though.

  • Stuart

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #13

    Newcastle Rumours
    11 Feb 2011 12:54:24
    Newcastle top ten targets In sumer:
    Niko kranjkar (6m)
    loic remy (15m)
    Welbeck (loan or 9m)
    Gervinho (8m)
    Gomis (14m)
    Erikson (7m)
    Uche (4m)
    Almedia (free)
    Arda Turan (8m)
    elmander (free)

  • Mags

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #14

    I think the crux of the article in the Sun which shows the FA in a bad light, was they were prepared to punish Ranger / Newcastle, until they realised that Smalling had also been pulled with no medical then backed off.

    Double standards?

    That is why it p***** me off.

  • toonfan09

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #15

    I dont get it if a player says he is retired from international football then they are not obliged to play even though there is no legal papers they have to sign if they say that they are retired but when a player is “injured” and hasnt been assesed and they withdraw they get penalised

  • dave 1961

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #16

    and if that don’t confuse them nothing will

  • GeordieGerman

    Feb 11, 2011 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #17

    toonfan09, true and even worse, Wynn Bridge.

  • mattyNUFC

    Feb 11, 2011 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #18

    ed, hope the surgery went well!

  • Burni

    Feb 11, 2011 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #19

    I just think this is a massive load of CACK! Why should the FA be able to force people to play. If the club dont want their player playing then thats that? why should the FA’s opinion even factor in this??? jesus christ they suck

  • david_NUFC

    Feb 11, 2011 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #20

    Are we still buying Ewerthon?

  • GeordieGerman

    Feb 11, 2011 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #21

    david_NUFC, nope and we wouldn’t have being buying him anyway. He’s a freebie.

  • coolcatcarter89

    Feb 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #22

    coolcatcarter89 // Feb 7, 2011 at 6:57 PM

    The summer.


    Lovenkrands – £1m – £15k p/w
    Smith – £0 (Leeds, fingers-crossed) – £60k p/w
    Xisco – nominal fee – £35k p/w
    Sol – Contract expired – £20k p/w
    Perch – £500k – £15k p/w
    Raylor – £1.5m – £25k p/w
    Krul/Forster? Approx £5m – £15k p/w

    Income = £8m

    I’d estimate that would slash, including Andy Casserole’ wage and Joey’ admirable pay-cut, £200k off the wage bill, use £60k to give Cheick and Jose their well-earned wage rise, probably doubling their basic salary, £60k to pay for a shiny new striker.


    (Shiny, new, prolific, mega striker) – £20m – £60k p/w
    Elmander – Zilch! – £30k p/w
    Gervinho – £10m – £40k p/w
    Chamberlain – £10m – £15k p/w
    Warnock – £5m – £30k p/w

    Outgoings = £45m Wage total = £175k

    Net spend (including fee for AC) = £2m
    Wage bill = -£25k p/w

    Voila! Everyone is happy.

    If Mike is feeling generous, push the envelope and sign an accomplished CB for a maximum of £8m . Together, with a clean bill of health, we’d have an awesome team, with two quality players for each position, not to mention a few exciting youngsters to berth in the Carling Cup. Nobody can tell me this isn’t realistic, surely?

    This is the 3rd time I’ve posted this, with zero feedback. I’m inclined to take that as a compliment though, as the only time you get correspondence on here, is when someone wants to clip your wings or spots a chance of caressing their own ego! 😉

  • elpaso_geordie

    Feb 11, 2011 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #23

    I dont think Pardew rates Nile that high to be honest as he mentuions his attitude a few times.

    Am i right in thinking that Pardew would have been in charge at Southampton when he go binned from them because of attitude and misdemeanours.

    If i am right then i reckon it wont be too long till he is shipped out – potnetial or not

  • GeordieGerman

    Feb 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #24

    coolcatcarter89, “If Mike is feeling generous”? Haha, I bet his missus has to buy her own drinks when they go out.

  • GeordieGerman

    Feb 11, 2011 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #25

    elpaso_geordie, maybe it was Pardews locker that Ranger robbed.

  • giimps

    Feb 11, 2011 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #26

    Hes just given Nile a 5 year contract, the lad is just 19, even Pardew knows people deserve second chances, It will be a crime if we get rid of Nile as he has as much potential as Carol had at his age.
    The FA are peeved that players are reluctant to play freindlies half way through a season when their clubs are struggling for players,When the FA pay players wages and pay compensation for breaking players which gets teams relegated

  • coolcatcarter89

    Feb 11, 2011 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #27

    GeordieGerman – Riding the wave of feminism that’s rippling through society, I think Mikes a forward thinking man in that case 😉

  • gorskino10

    Feb 11, 2011 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #28

    Newcastle Rumours
    11 Feb 2011 12:54:24
    Newcastle top ten targets In sumer:

    Niko kranjkar (6m) Doubt harry would sell him

    loic remy (15m) a guy with a heart problem and new to the club i doubt it.

    Welbeck (I think sunderland would bid for him and fergie said he would sell him at all)

    Gervinho (8m) (Reports of 10 Mill but wud he join us cause of Tiote or join Liverpool?)

    Gomis (14m) (Overated and doesnt score enough noway we would buy him for that kind of money)

    Erikson (7m) (Loads of clubs would be interested i think team with alot more pulling power than us but is a gr8 player)

    Uche (4m) Has the Martins problem could be explosive but hardly scores and is hit and miss

    Almedia (free) Already agreed a pre contract and not with us

    Arda Turan (8m) Wont leave them for that Little but if he would Ateltico Madrid have always been linked 2 him and wud beat us

    elmander (free) Posibility and wouldnt be bad if he knows he isnt a garrenteed starter

  • Thump

    Feb 11, 2011 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #29

    Stopped reading at Newcastle Rumours mate 😉

  • dunzer1990

    Feb 11, 2011 at 10:01 PM

    Comment #30

    While their at it investigating Nile Ranger why don’t they investigate the fact that seemingly average players like Gareth Barry can get into the England squad when sensational players like Joey Barton and Kevin Nolan can’t get a look in?hmmm maybe we should head our own investigation into that eh guys?


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