Newcastle Get 25% Of Any Andy Carroll Sell-On Transfer


Newcastle seemed to strike a good deal for Andy Carroll, and not only did they bank an immediate £30M in cash, but also will get 25% of any Carroll transfer sell-on in the future.

Mike Ashley – club will get 25% of next Andy Carroll transfer fee
That’s in excess of the £35M

This means that Newcastle United will be well positioned in the summer transfer market, and as is the Newcastle policy with transfers these days, the fees for incoming players will be paid 100% up front.

No longer will the club be paying transfer fees years after the player was signed, and often when the player has already left the club after being a flop, which happened too many times in the past under Chairman Freddy Shepherd.

Players like Marcelino, Boumsong and Luque, to name but three, were huge flops on Tyneside, and cost big money, that Newcastle were paying often when the players had already left the club – another example of that was Damien Duff.

Xisco is the latest example of somebody who cost big money and will just not make the grade at Newcastle United, although  that fee was paid in full up front.

Newcastle also have learned from past poor deals – like when they sold James Milner to Aston Villa as one example – and have inserted  a 25 per cent sell-on fee in the deal with the Anfield club, and took advantage  of Liverpool coming in for Carroll on the very last day of the summer transfer market. It seems a case of put up or shut up – and Liverpool put up.

So if  Carroll get sold in the future for say £59M, then Newcastle will get 25% of  £24M (£59-£35), which would be £6M.

If Newcastle had done a similar deal for James Milner – Newcastle received £12M from Villa for him in August, 2008, who was then sold on for £25M last August – the club would have received 25% of £13M ( £25- £12) – the difference in the transfer fees when Villa sold Milner to Manchester City.  Newcastle would have received £3.25M from Villa for that deal last August.

Alan Pardew is now hoping to use that money by spending big to strengthen the Newcastle squad in the summer, with two top strikers as a first priority, but then Alan will also want to bring in some wingers and at least one full back.

Comments welcome.

Note – We are running a poll on our home page about whether you think Mike Ashley will use the £35M in the summer,  to strengthen the Newcastle squad – please vote.



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44 comments so far

  • supermacnumber9

    Feb 18, 2011 at 12:40 AM

    Comment #1

    if they had been open and honest at the time we would have seen that this was a brilliant deal

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  • GeordieGerman

    Feb 18, 2011 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #2

    35 million and 12 million for Enrique. That’s 47 million for the kitty. The next transfer window is where I can make a definite opinion about Ashley. As at the moment I’m in a right muddle.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1358074/Newcastle-tell-AC-Milan-pay-12m-secure-services-unsettled-Jose-Enrique.html

    But then again it’s just the mail

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  • supermacnumber9

    Feb 18, 2011 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #3

    it has been the team’s recovery (from half-time against arsenal) who have saved the day, every man has stood tall and pulled their weight – but if that second half had gone wrong then revolution would have been in the air and things would have got very nasty.
    Now, we can see that Nolan’s reaction was the right one – the sale was right but the timing wrong, and frankly the team are over it and I’m over it
    we are moving on and doing well – I am happy to back both the manager and players (who are the ones who count) – and I’m sort of happy to begin to be happy with the board
    HWTL

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Feb 18, 2011 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #4

    We really did pull the bin dippers pants down with that one, if Jose is to leave I hope he goes to Milan, he deserves a bilge move abroad. 12 mill is excellent business for a player on massive wages with a year left, sign another young Spanish left back from gijon for around 5 mill, then we have around 42 mill to strengthen with. Things are looking bright. Ireland is back in full training next week, now thay is a lad I can’t wait to see in the black n white.

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  • supermacnumber9

    Feb 18, 2011 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #5

    small point – who says Xisco will not make the grade? I don’t think he has been given a decent chance!
    HWTL

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  • Flop

    Feb 18, 2011 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #6

    Not a bad piece of business especially if Liverpool sell him.
    On a plus Evra has signed a contract extension at Man Utd, so I doubt Enrique will be going there.

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  • supermacnumber9

    Feb 18, 2011 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #7

    does it mean that if Carroll comes back we get a 25% discount?
    HWTL

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  • stuckdownsouth

    Feb 18, 2011 at 12:59 AM

    Comment #8

    Yeah that Mike Ashley is an idiot business man!!!!!!!

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  • boing123

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:01 AM

    Comment #9

    Ed, are you sure that’s how it works? From my understanding, the 25% is paid upon the full new transfer fee and not upon the difference between the old fee and the new fee.

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  • supermacnumber9

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #10

    I was angry, now I think it was a good deal, now I can make a joke about it, and now I’m looking forward to see bestie lead the line again – good luck son you’re doing well!
    HWTL

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  • free giveaways

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #11

    Yeah if we can get Wickham or Daniel Sturridge for £10m and Gervinho for £10 and sell Jose for £12m and get the young lb from Sporting Gijon or Van Aanholt for £5m we’ll still have a very strong team and a £22m profit.

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  • John Hoy

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #12

    Xisco gets his chance 5 times per week in training. If he doesn’t cut it there, then how can you pick him? Given our threadbare squad, no doubt Pards would seize upon any unused talent in the ranks. The fact is, he’s hopeless. The risk you always run when going for young players with potential, is that they never reach it. Sell him

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  • clinta2

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #13

    Doesn’t all this just mean we won’t see another cent from Andy Carrolls sale?

    With the new regulations coming in about clubs only being able to spent what they earn in profits, isn’t there’s soon to be an end to any 35m+ transfers. Especially by the time Liverpool would ever sell him on.

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  • GeordieGerman

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:29 AM

    Comment #14

    supermacnumber9, Howay then, tell us the joke.

    Like I said at 2 I’m really confused with Ashley. Some things he does make sense and others I’m banging my head off walls and key boards.

    I’ll make a decision when he spends or doesn’t spend at least 35 million in August.

    As for Enrique going to Milan. I prefer prefer that than him going to Liverpool on Manure. But it would be nice to see us Playing against him/them next season. 🙂

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  • mattyNUFC

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:41 AM

    Comment #15

    i agree, GG,

    I don’t know what to think about Ashley so this summer, out of all the other windows or periods we said we could fairly judge him, IS the time we can properly assess his ambition or lack thereof. I am done being worried with Jose or anyone for that matter. If players want to leave, let them leave. It’s what we do in this transfer window that will mean everything. It will define his reign and ultimately, us, as a club.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:42 AM

    Comment #16

    oh yeah

    HTL!!!!!!!!

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  • dunzer1990

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:44 AM

    Comment #17

    stuckdownsouth are you serious?he has wiped the clubs debts, cleaned up the mess that Fatty freddy left, put the club on sound financial footing with wages and transfers and retained an excellent playing squad while doing all that. And he swindled Liverpool for 35 million for a crocked unproven striker that will be re-invested in the squad to make it even better and you reckon he’s a bad business man? tell ya what whenever you’ve made your first billion then go tell him he knows nowt bout business till then shut ya gob.

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  • supermacnumber9

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:47 AM

    Comment #18

    GeordieGerman – the “joke” was 25% discount if AC came back – not much of a joke but I wasn’t so flippant about it last week, and it may (just may) turn out to be true but only if we pay more than we sold him for (as in ha ha)

    boing123 – yes I think you are right it would be 25% of the whole selling price – Liverpool must have been desperate!

    HWTL

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  • GeordieGerman

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:48 AM

    Comment #19

    dunzer1990, I may be wrong, but I think stuckdownsouth meant 8 to be ironic.

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  • GeordieGerman

    Feb 18, 2011 at 1:52 AM

    Comment #20

    supermacnumber9, it may take a few years but Carroll will be back with a lot of remorse and something to prove. Till then he can ef off.

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  • Tom4Nufc

    Feb 18, 2011 at 2:28 AM

    Comment #21

    GG- I reckon he will be back when he is 28 ish to finish off his career with us!

    And as for a sell-on-clause its 25% of the whole deal, not purely based on net profit… The Milner deal being a prime example, Leeds put a 10% sell-on-clause and got 1.2m from the deal!

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  • gorskino10

    Feb 18, 2011 at 2:30 AM

    Comment #22

    DONT believe the Mail Milan needed a left back and they obviouslly wanted a spanish one as were linked with Jose Enrique and Jose Angel plus others but they signed Dídac Vilà who i thought is a very tidy left back so i doubt they will go for Jose and also Man United wont as Evra signed a new contract today for 4 Years obviouslly he sees them going to win the EPL and wanted to stay.

    25% erm so if we for example buy Andy back for £35 Mill then we get 3.5 Million back from them cause of the clause, 3.5 Mill is alot for a loan :p but doubt they wud accept the bid anywho we need to be cleaver in this market you need some SOLID well known players but then we need some gems like Tiote etc. To be honest all you need to do well is GOOD strenght and good pace and skills on the ball and calm under pressure shouldnt be too hard to find some 1/2/3 Mill bargains from Slovenia,Slovakia etc… and make them into top stars.

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  • Widowmaker

    Feb 18, 2011 at 4:27 AM

    Comment #23

    Ed, to delay payment or split it into several payments are usual business practices applied by most, and I am sure IBM has done quite a few times too. It will help companies to have a better cash flow, and I don’t see anything wrong with that. Actually, it is a lot better than paying all amount in cash up front in most cases.

    The problem was mainly the player we had signed. Having said that, as long as not seeing any investments in players, the more cash MA has received, the more pissed of the fans would become.

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  • henock1989

    Feb 18, 2011 at 5:21 AM

    Comment #24

    35 mill + jose sell..15
    that is 50 mill
    get Lorenzo De Silvestri/Mamadou Sakho and Aly Cissokho
    for 25 mill..all young and we can sell them twice the price we bpught the
    get Sebastian Giovinco who have impressed this year, for 5..he is perfect player,,he is fast…
    ireland for 5
    bring MUTU for free ,,,he is alwasy good playing, and can really score goals…he have atleast 50 goals left in him..
    and finally
    van wolfswinkel for 10 mill
    so our line up should be

    ———————-foster

    De Silvestri/Sakho..tals..colo..Aly Cissokho

    ………………….. cheki…………………………
    nolan…………………………barton…….
    …………………. ireland………………………..

    …………………..BEN ARFA…………………

    …………… van wolfswinke …………………

    bench
    will,
    MUTU
    Giovinco (game changer)
    ranger
    shola
    philp

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  • john_cena163

    Feb 18, 2011 at 5:58 AM

    Comment #25

    I would want £18-20mil for jose ,sell him to milan or man u, but not liverpool.

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  • mgermino

    Feb 18, 2011 at 6:29 AM

    Comment #26

    as far as the polling goes, i think ashley will spend but not all 35, i think closer to 25

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  • Toonboy_84

    Feb 18, 2011 at 7:20 AM

    Comment #27

    If we get 25% of Carroll’s next transfer, does this mean we buy him back for 7.5 mil instead of 10 mil when he flops for Liverpool?

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  • NorseMag

    Feb 18, 2011 at 7:43 AM

    Comment #28

    Any sources on the clause? Some here claim it’s 25% of whole next transfer fee, witch i doubt.

    And 25% of profit? come on, what are the odds of him lfc selling him with any profit?

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  • Jimay

    Feb 18, 2011 at 7:47 AM

    Comment #29

    I think a big question is, how will the summer tranfer window look like? With the new Uefa financial fair play rules around the corner, the next window will probably be the last where we can see these ridiculous transfer fees so my guess is that every club would want silly money for every player they will sell.

    With that said, there might not be so many tranfers this summer if we are held to ransom over silly transfer fees for the players we want. Players as Connor Wickham would be very expensive so my guess is that we will go for oversee players and hopefully if we bring in any players it will be cheaper ones like Tiote and HBA. I think the transfer window during the summer will be crazy!

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  • Jose Enrique

    Feb 18, 2011 at 7:55 AM

    Comment #30

    Surely if carroll sold for 59million we would get around 16million cus 25% of 59 is a lot more then 6 million

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  • Jimay

    Feb 18, 2011 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #31

    I don’t believe we will see those kind of figures in transfers after the new UEFA rules come in place. So the 25% sell on clause might not give that much extra money for us. However, it is a good deal anyhow.

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  • stuckdownsouth

    Feb 18, 2011 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #32

    Dunzer1990

    Ha I was being (or trying to be) Ironic!

    Of course it’s a good deal, I was having a pop at the idiots who think MA is an idiot!

    We might not like everything he does but if he’s an idiot I wish I was!

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  • stuckdownsouth

    Feb 18, 2011 at 8:47 AM

    Comment #33

    Just to add we shouldn’t get hung up on 35m, only spend it if the right players are there.

    I feel there is a long term plan…..I hope!

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  • JohnnyBrookes

    Feb 18, 2011 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #34

    Any one seen the latest Jose quotes about the 35m, and how he hopes it would be spent but being honest, promises have been broken before.

    While the Carroll deal is good it has clearly rattled a lot of people in the squad, expect people leaving this summer

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  • southerngeordie

    Feb 18, 2011 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #36

    The Jose rumors seem to be gathering pace. I’ve all said that no matter what i back the club and no player is bigger than NUFC – if the lad wants out, fine let him go. He’s been a great servant to the club, he will be missed but he is replaceable.

    The real worry for me are his comments of broken promises. As a fan i do understand the financial constraints of the club, i do realises that the Keegan eras are long gone, SBR god rest rest his soul is gone and we are no longer a challenging club. However, i do appreciate that we are rebuilding and that takes time.

    If he wants to move on to challenge for CL then fine, we can’t offer him that at the moment. Comments about broken promises are a different story – things like that can counter balance the entire team. He is a key figure in the side and when comments like that come out i don’t see them sitting well.

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  • southerngeordie

    Feb 18, 2011 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #37

    Hi Ed,

    Given the news of the Carroll deal can you run a poll asking whether fans agree with the decision to sell him in light of the news.

    Many thanks

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  • Solaidback

    Feb 18, 2011 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #38

    Somehow I don’t think it’s only 25% of any profit Cessepool make on Carroll, because if it was, we’d be out of pocket if he was sold for less than £35m & somehow I doubt Ashley is that daft really!!!

    As for Enrique, I’ve got a funny feeling that he’s being tapped up by Cessepool but not thru the clubs bosses but from Carroll himself, he’s probably been given Cessepool inside info on all our players & then because he’s friends with them, he’s able to contact them directly, as a friend & tell them what he’s got & what they could if they came to us… why else would Enrique all of a sudden be interested in joining Cessepool, when only a few weeks ago, he wanted to finish his playing career at the Toon!!!

    It could be happening with other players at the club too, I mean, whats happened to Bartons contract extension talks, seem to have gone quiet for no reason… Carroll could be contacting our best player & selling Cessepool as a club to them for all we know… 🙁 lol

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  • PHOENIXNIGHTS

    Feb 18, 2011 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #39

    Guys,this is my first post on here however I do read on a daily basis and I am a season ticket holder for the past 18 years. In general this has to be the most depressing blog I have ever come across.90% of all comments are of a negative nature. Listen, the team are doing well (I for one would have accepted fourth bottom this year) at times we play with a confidence and a swagger- yes Ashley is at times an idiot however he is putting us on a sound financial footing(and the last transfer window was nothing short of humilitating) however we are two or three wins from safety. In the summer we need a top goal scorer with HBA playing behind him and if the bull wants out let him go (Van Arnholt) is a great prospect who I would assume would like to return here. I am sure a lot of you would still moan if we won the Champions League – come on guys be positive we have the makings of a decent team here and if players want out sell them and move on.Ashley will sell in the future when he has a settled premiership club so until he does get behind the boys and enjoy it. WE COULD BE IN A LOT WORSE OF A POSITION.
    PHOENIXNIGHTS.

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  • Jimay

    Feb 18, 2011 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #40

    Well spoken PHOENIXNIGHTS!!

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