We started a poll on February 17th asking if fans thought that Newcastle owner Mike Ashley would reinvest back into the squad, the £35M in transfer fee, the club received for Andy Carroll.
Will Mike Ashley Reinvest £35M From Carroll Sale Into Stengthening The Squad?
- Yes (41%, 504 Votes)
- No (39%, 482 Votes)
- Not Sure (20%, 254 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,240
Loading ...And since Kevin Keegan’s comments yesterday on BBC Radio Newcastle, where he said that he didn’t think manager Alan Pardew would see any of that money, it seems a good time to end the poll and publish the results.
By reinvesting, we meant that the money wouldn’t necessarily all be spent on just transfer fees, but on players’ wages too, and that would count as a valid reinvestment of the money received for big Andy.
We’ve just closed the poll and it couldn’t have been much closer, split right down the middle, as the results above show clearly.
Mike Ashley - Newcastle owner
Each reader is only allowed one vote in all of our polls, and one reason for that is that it doesn’t allow more extreme views to significantly alter the results.
For instance, one person voting a hundred times or more as one example, which we’ve seen is allowed in some other of the polls we’ve seen, and we think that allows extreme views to significantly alter the results one way or the other.
One vote per reader gives a more accurate reflection of what the fans really think.
So the results are the opinions of some 1240 different readers of this web-site, and 504 voted yes that Mike would reinvest the money (41%), 487 voted no (39%) and a rather sizable 254 (20% were not sure.
We have very right to believe the reason that one in five fans just don’t know what Mike will do, is because they hardly know who the guy even is – because he never talks to his customers – the Newcastle fans.
And at the significant risk of sounding like an old broken record the one thing Mike could do to improve his relations with Newcastle fans – is to talk to them – communicate with them – tell them what he’s thinking – and what he’s planning for the club as we move ahead – because quite honestly we have very little idea what Mike really thinks.
If Mike or Managing Director Derek LLambias don’t want to do it, then tell Alan Pardew and have the manger pass it on to the fans, because there’s one thing we are very impressed about Alan – and that’s his excellent communications skills, which are really good, and he’s very comfortable with the press.
After all, close to 50,000 fans spend their hard-earned money every other Saturday to attend the home games, so they deserve some respect and some words from the owner.
One way of expressing the results is to point out that a rather large 59% of readers either think he will not invest the money or are not sure he will invest, and 41% think he will – and we were in that 41%.
The only real conclusion we can draw from these results is the Newcastle fans are truly split right down the middle on whether Ashley will invest that £35M.
The good news is we should know the answer in about six months time, when August 31st rolls around.
On second thoughts, make that when September 1st rolls around.
Comments welcome, but please respect other readers’ views.
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122 responses so far ↓
1 Stuart // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:15 PM
The fact that once we’d sold AC we made a few bids for players before the window closed, plus the fact we’ve tied down Tiote for 6 and a half years means that yes, the money will be re-invested.
2 Drona // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:15 PM
This is his chance to redeem himself. If he doesn’t reinvest, I’m sure the fans are going to cause havoc and protest in the summer so that he sells up
3 boing123 // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:20 PM
Split down the middle – perhaps this is a sign that MA will re-invest HALF the money. In fact, that’s quite a likely outcome from past experience.
P.S. Where did all the money from Milner, Martins, Duff, Bassong etc go to?
4 Thump // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:21 PM
That’s a rather bold statement, Ed.
Okay, I’ll stop now.
5 Stuart // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM
boing, that money went to clearing debts and keeping the club afloat, you have to realise we lost alot of revenue when we got relegated with less money from Sky etc.
6 GeordieGerman // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM
Has NUFC ever had a board that communicates with the fans? I can’t remember one.
7 Stuart // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:24 PM
GG, do many clubs?
8 boing123 // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:24 PM
Stuart, I place the blame for the relegation squarely on MA. We were on the way up with KK before MA tried his stunts. Therefore, to me, it’s only right that MA paid for the relegation. The transfer money belonged to the club and should have gone to new players.
9 Stuart // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM
But you cant change the fact that we were relegated and in massive debt, if he’d just spent the money anyway there wouldnt be a club for us to support lol.
10 free giveaways // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Pardew has already said the £35m will be for transfer fees and wages. Why can’t we spend the whole £35m, or at least £25m on transfer fees? Carroll’s wages are off the books now and in the summer Enrique, Smith, Xisco and Guthrie’s will probably be as well.
11 boing123 // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:29 PM
I think the biggest problem was that MA did not realise he wasn’t rich enough to own a football club, let alone such a big club as Newcastle.
12 chuck // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:36 PM
Will there be money invested in players.
Well apparently Pardew has stated that he has Mikes word on it, whatever thats worth ?
There also appears to be some confusion on the amount, some mentioning thirty five million, others stating thirty million plus a 25% sell on clause ?
It has also been mentioned that members of the playing staff have asked for guarantees of the clubs ambitions, through a strengthening the side before extending their contracts.
It`s also rumored Enrique, will now wait untill summer before renewing, rather than when the critical 40 point level is reached.
Appears he is hedging his bet, in order to get the best deal out there.
So much for all the badge kissing, in the end it`s simply about the dosh init ?
13 ThaiMag // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM
I think we should spend the whole 35m on new players excluding wages. If we had not sold AC, does that mean we have no money to spend in the summer?
14 SirAlan // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Stuart is Ignorant, no need to say more
15 GeordieTwo // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:50 PM
You are right to be cynical chuck, Keegan can tell you what Ashley’s word is worth, nowt. He will spend as little as possible and only to improve his own chances of profit. Tiote was only signed to a long term deal to maximize Ashley’s profit when he is sold as with Carroll. Ashley made the mistake of not re-signing Jose earlier but has learned from that with Tiote. I think there will be some money spent on new player(s) in the summer but nothing like 30 or 35 million. We are a balance the books club now so high wage earners like Colo will have to leave also or take a huge pay cut. Let’s watch carefully this summer.
16 thepict // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:50 PM
Boing it was down to certain players and we know who they were that we were relegated. Yes, Ashley made a b@@@cks of the Keegan situation and has paid for it. Don’t forget, Keegan walked out of the club on at least 3 occasions.
It was players performances and an inexperienced manager that got us relegated. Ashley is a business man and if he wants to sell the club he knows he has to invest.
17 estechco // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:54 PM
I missed that poll, but would have probably gone for a “not sure” vote. As boing suggests, I suspect we will see some but not all of it reinvested.
Tiote (and others) pay rises need to be factored in, but only offset against what they would have earned under their previous terms. Likewise, if you are going to treat AC’s £35m as a lump sum then presumably the lengthy remainder of his newly signed contract should also play some part?
I also agree with free_giveaways that the loss of other big earners this summer should be factored into the mix when deciding what is available to be spent…but then who the hell am I?!?
18 chuck // Mar 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM
Am I hallucinating or did Ashley state he would invest a certain amount in bringing in players every season, following his purchase of the club ?
How many years is it now into the five year plan? sounds like were in the old Soviet Union here, all kinds of plans and no real results.
We were battling in the top six with SBR, playing in Europe!
Guess the revolving door management system
has`nt worked out.
Ah well, we will kick ass next season, with what is it thirty odd million worth of new faces .
19 Stuart // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:04 PM
How exactly am I ignorant siralan? For stating facts?
The way some of you go on you’d be much happier if it wasnt invested just so you could keep bitching and moaning.
Grow up eh siralan, if you’re going to argue with me you should actually have a point.
20 MacToon // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:04 PM
Ashley used to drink with fans before and after matches, he managed to communicate OK then but we all found out he was lying through his teeth…..
So we’re told Carroll isn’t for sale (sigh) and then his transfer fee will be re-invested…..
pull the other one… some people are so gullible.
21 Stuart // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:05 PM
Oh but I forgot, according to you I’m from manchester and don’t support newcastle…so what would I know eh?
22 GeordieGerman // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:07 PM
chuck, I think relegation chucked all that. Probably all been delayed a year or so.
23 GeordieTwo // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:08 PM
It will take a careful look at the accounts to find out if Ashley is really re-investing in the team. Reduced wages will make a huge difference over time and definitely will affect who decides to stay. The Ashley method will only work if we have a decent crop of youngsters all the time coming up and competing for jobs who will accept low wages to start and allow Ashley to sell players in their prime for profit without affecting the status of the team in the Prem too much. With a proper owner surely St. James could be expanded to 60,000 to rival the emirates which would increase income. A proper owner would commit to getting us into Europe next season by spending carefully but competing for good players in the 24-26 range in their prime. Let’s wait and see what our owner actually does. So far I see a rapidly improving financial picture but where will the money end up? Most likely in Ashley’s pocket.
24 lewman // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:12 PM
chuck aswell as the nrelegation that gg stated, we also had all the fees from martins etc.. that hadnt been paid off aswell as various other debts that ashley hadnt taken into account but he did put 25 million in at one point last season and his interest free loans are a bit better than man u’s glazier familys 14% interest debts on the club.
25 Stuart // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:17 PM
Whats wrong siralan, black cat got your tongue?
Sick people like you having a go at me for being positive about the club. I honestly apologise from the bottom of my heart but I just can’t reach your excellent standards of pessimism.
I can’t help it, I just like to look on the positive side when I’m talking about my team.
I will try my hardest to change my ways and I’ll be bitching and moaning soon enough, because we all know that makes someone a real fan.
(Sorry to everyone else for the rant, I just can’t stand people like him)
26 thetoonarmybarracks // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:18 PM
It couldnt be closer. Really interesting poll.
Http://thetoonarmybarracks.blogspot.com
27 wynsleap // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:19 PM
As I said on another thread if Ashley was to keep his early promise of injecting £20 mill. per year into the club he could pay for all those extra wages and renewed contracts in the summer window and then use the reputed £35 mill. for actual acquisitions.
Unfortunately as we know this isn’t going to happen and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally deluded.
The Controller just doesn’t do spending on recruitment.
28 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:32 PM
i think the money will be reinvested i think we will see maybe one siging of 10mill say then i think we will sign 2/3players for a couple of mill like tiote style signing then i think we cud see 3/4 free agents come in, with maybe a few leaving
players out
routledge, xisco, campbell, kuqi,guthrie,lovenkrands,smith maybe jose if he wont do a new deal but id only sell him to milan or barca
players in hopefully
gervinho the 1omill signing
ireland 6m
marveux free
perrotti 6m
antonio rodriqeuz 2m
maybes on frees elmander n bradley johnson, ashly williams or pratley
a couple of players from france on cheap
29 coolcatcarter89 // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM
Freegiveaways – that has been my arguement for some time. AC, Smith, Routledge, Xisco, Sol, Lovenkrands, Raylor, Perch, possibly Guthrie AND Joeys admirable pay-cut, should he sign; all likely deductions from our wage bill, realistically totalling between £220-240k p/w or £11-12m per annum.
Yes, Tiote has been handed a new deal of £50k p/w, probably doubling his initial wage, so that can account for £25k p/w.
Would still leave a deficit of around £200k p/w before our wage bill broke even!!
If Mike came out and said “we still need to reduce the wage bill by £100k p/w, then we’ll be operating at a healthy profit of £5m per annum.” Then maybe I wouldn’t feel this indignation and would be happy with all those players leaving, therefore £25m being spent wisely in conjunction with reducing the wage bill.
Look at Villas figures published today, reeks of us pre-relegation. 88% of their revenue is gobbled up by their wage bill, nearly £80m of their £90m turnover! Resulting in losses of £37m, now that I don’t want.
We’ll just have to wait and see how our finances stack up.
30 GeordieGerman // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM
All very confusing. What happened to the good old days of players finishing their shift on a Saturday, turning up for a game and being given a shilling after the game? Those where the days.
31 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM
id like to see colo get a new 5 year deal id like to see him finish his career here think he has been class this season n he cud play till he is 34 easily at this level
32 Stuart // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:47 PM
I agree davy, would love to see him finish his career with us though, hes reportedly on £80k a week though so he’d probably have to take a pay cut to stay.
33 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:51 PM
yea he would prob hav to but the good thing with colo, barton n nolan is there gettin to an age now were there really gonna get offered more than we can offer them, like colo 80k aweek i would leave him on that for another season n then offer him 60k aweek to see out his career with us
34 coolcatcarter89 // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:53 PM
Colo’s silky style of defending, his anticipation and the fact he’s durable, seldom injured, means he could easily sustain his super level of performance ’til he’s 34. Hope he does, love watching him play.
35 Stuart // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM
Aye, good call that like davy.
How long does Colo have left on his contract like?
36 geoff777 // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM
He’s not going to spend it on transfer fees.
A large part of the AC fee will go towards paying back Ashley part of the money which the club owes him.
Paying back debt to Ashley would be seen as investing the money in the club?
Keegan is usually right.
Expectations of the fans are constantly being manipulated in a downwards direction.
If UEFA level the playing field, reduce club debt and make teams wheel & deal within budgets.
Where does our turnover/profit in relation to other clubs put us in the money league?
Top 3-5?
Because that’s the line that you measure our performance against.
37 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM
that shud of said there not gonna get much more than we can offer them, now aknow ppl are guessing the wage limit is at around 50/60k aweek well the longer we stay in the league n the more we improve on the field then the wage limit can steadily rise
38 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 5:56 PM
stuart- colo has 2 years left after this season
39 GeordieGerman // Mar 1, 2011 at 6:00 PM
The only problem I see with the wage ceiling is that other clubs don’t see it as the way forward. I hope that all changes with the fair play rule. If it does we will be at an advantage and that’s fair with me.
40 Stuart // Mar 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM
I’m sure it will change with the fair play rule GG, I mean, look at what coolcatcarter posted earlier about Villa, 88% of revenue eaten up by wage bills.
If clubs can only sign players from the revenue they bring in from next season onwards, the lower the wage bill the better. However it still needs to be high enough to provide competitive wages to players.
41 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM
also i think pardew should start gettin the credit he deserves, now i wasnt sure when he was appointed but i said id give him a chance, and what he has done so far is superb as far as am concerned we really hard to beat now, one defeat in 2month in the pl, n we hav been the best team in most of those games in the 2month
42 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 6:06 PM
that new rule were clubs can only spend what there revenue is wont work theres ways round so the likes of man city can spend what they want still all they will do is get one of there owners business to sponsor the club for 40mill then u hav extra cash to spend
43 GeordieGerman // Mar 1, 2011 at 6:12 PM
davybtoon, ok, but Ashley has sports.direct to use to bring in a few extra quid and it’s not as if he’ll lose much as it’s money out of one pocket into the other.
44 GeordieGerman // Mar 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM
davybtoon, as for Pardew. I said I’d give him up till West Ham to make my mind up and boy did he. But there’s a couple of die hards here who will not change their minds till the complete team has been signed by him and we have won the Champions League.
45 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 6:33 PM
GG – yea i know what u mean some ppl think that bcoz pardew aint signed any players that he dont deserve credit well were playing better under pardew than we ever did under are last 3managers he has really got us goin, n he players may hav been here b4 pardew but pardew is the man who is gettin the best out of them
46 GeordieGerman // Mar 1, 2011 at 6:49 PM
davybtoon, and he’s going all attack. When Raylor got sent off, did Pardew go for defence? like heck did he. But I bet Hughton would have.
47 davis_toons // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:03 PM
ED, can i ask which did you vote?
48 gorskino10 // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:04 PM
All depends on what you mean by “Re-Invest” Do you mean reinvest into the Club or reinvest in the Transfer Market?
As anyone who reads most interviews by Pardew and co you will notice the cleaver wording they use by saying it will be “Re-invested” into the club, what they mean is that the £35 Million will go into the day to day bills for running the club (Wages etc.) nothing more nothing less, we will have a budget for the next window but it wont even be half that £35 Million, Ashley said even BEFORE selling Judas that he wont spend big in the previous summer but ONLY spend a give a good budget to next season “If” we survived this one, so we were planning of spending cash anyway and with that £35 Million plus the cash we were didnt spend in Jan plus the annual Summer Window Fund we should have ALOT of cash.
As much as i now Hate Liverpool atleast they got the cash from the sale STRAIGHT into buying replacements, like Judas and Suarez, they got the WHOLE ammont from the sale we wont, we wont see half that spent on the team most of it will go to the running of the club which Ashley should pay for anyway but he is just going to use our money we made to help his payments NOT help us out with players or new signings.
We will get the B/S excuses we get year and after year ” the window was too tough no-one wanted to sell or at a CHEAP price”
I would be suprised if we signed around 2/3 Players and ATLEAST 2 of them being Freebies, Namely Elmander/Mervouex.
The only player we may sign is 1 striker who will be whoever Pardew finally decides upon, being Gervinhio or whoever who will cost from 8/12 Million Max
If we sell anyone we will get a player replacement on the cheap too more extra cash that will go to the “Running” of NUFC
49 davis_toons // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:06 PM
So far i like what Padew have done overall. In matches and media.
At 1st i dont really accept AP as manager as he didnt really have any good things to write about on his track record compair to the talk about manager at that time.
50 lou9brasil // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:07 PM
Bit off topic but the more I’m thinking about it the the more I’m getting wound up…
Who the fck does keegan think he is, as much as I loved the guy he is now really starting to get on my nerves..
U walked away from us as manager (twice ) mate, first time because u couldn’t handle the pressure and 2nd time because u couldn’t get your own way so spat your dummy out then on top of that you decided to sue for millions ( despite already being a multi millionaire )when we were right up sh1t creek without a paddle…
If u had loved the club as much as u say then u would have stayed, saw us safe and walked away at the end of the season with ur head held high but no u didn’t you walked away and then gave us a double whammy and volleyed us in the nuts…
Keegan is just as bad as the rest of the mercenaries who took this amazing club for a ride and that’s including the fat tw@t who is our current owner, we were a ticking time bomb for years and Ashley and Keegan tipped us over the edge, they are both bad as eachother ( little men with big egos )…
Having said that we are stuck with what we have got he seems to be trying to rectify his previous mistakes so I’ll just wait and see what the guy decides to do next, as for Keegan u were a legend now move on and shut up hope u enjoy spending the £8 mill u managed to squeeze out of us!!!
Rant over annnnnnnnnnnnnd breathe…. Phew!!
51 davis_toons // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:10 PM
Actually 35m is really not a big sum to run a club esp this big with huge wages and debts.
Its good sign that the owner have shown something to improve the squad. Esp renew of important players due contracts
52 coolcatcarter89 // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:13 PM
gorskino10 – I’ve noticed how the anti-Ashley brigade use language like ‘will’, ‘will’,'WILL’!! Yet the more balanced of us fans use ‘in my opinion’, ‘possibly’, ‘I believe’. My point, you know nothing more than the rest of us, I WILL say that much.
53 lou9brasil // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:18 PM
CC89 well post 52
well said sonna!!
54 davis_toons // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:22 PM
“The only player we may sign is 1 striker who will be whoever Pardew finally decides upon, being Gervinhio or whoever who will cost from 8/12 Million Max”
If this is true. Its one of a good way and a correct way to improve a club.
Not over spend. And not under spend.
If we could get a good player every season. We will improve and the club will be running well and making money.
(Remember this 11 position, to get 1 good player every season, not include youth and additional, rotational players.) Its a very good deal!
Then we will expect a little treats from the owner every now and then.
Its a win-win situation. i like it.
55 nomis7 // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:23 PM
If we DO get the 35 Mil who would you buy?
RB as simmo is good but not mint
LB as we don’t know if we will lose Jose and look where losing AC lft us
CF two of these needed, but I do think Leon and Nile will do well in the future
I only think we need circa 20-25 mil to achieve this and keep some in the locker for Christmas
56 solano // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:27 PM
lou9brasil…..get a grip you fool…..KK had every right to sue Ashley for constructive dismissal and he didn’t get awarded £8m…it was £2m…the same as St Bobby Robson sued the club for…
I was supporting “this amazing club” for quite a while standing in a piss soaked Gallowgate End on the verges of the Third Division….KK’s contribution in actually realising some of our potential and establishing us as a top club should not be disrespected by your ill-informed and inane rants
57 lobacka // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:27 PM
10-12 million on a striker and a few players on free’s and some youngsters and sign up barton and nolan and the bull and thats a wonderful summer in my opinion
58 lobacka // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:30 PM
well said solano but i do think keegan should keep his opinion on the club and ashley quiet because it makes for unwanted and negative headlines
59 davis_toons // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:32 PM
If some of the fans wanted was overnight change then we might have to change the owner.
If every season we could get 1 good player in. In not time with our current squad we can do well and maintain as it is.
What we have build so far is the backbone and the stability in the 1st season of our rebuild.
Even if the owner were to sell the club now. The players is still the same batch of players and the next owner will build from there.
I dont think any owner will want to get regulated after buying over with large amount of money.
60 solano // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:39 PM
thanks lobacka…..if you look at what KK actually said in the context of the rest of the interview he wasn’t having a pop….he was asked a straight question and gave a direct answer…something I have always admired…..I think it has aroused such a debate because it’s just not what the fans want to hear…..(though a lot of people fear it will prove to be true)
61 Thump // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:43 PM
The problem with players contracts is that we’re being told “youngsters are the future of the club”, while it doesn’t seem anybody is interested in keeping the players who are hardly getting younger (Colo, Barton etc.,) but are doing a great job don’t seem to be getting much.
Barton wants to finish his career here, I doubt Colo does (can see him playing for Real or Barca) – so why aren’t they being signed up for long term contracts?
62 lou9brasil // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:43 PM
Solano… Good for u for standing in a “pissed soaked gallowgate end” would u like a medal for doing this or are u just trying to tell everyone how much of a die hard supporter u are ( I’m
overjoyed for u )
U need to ” get a grip” and open ur eyes and realise keegan ain’t no saint… I’m entitled to an opinion and I’m free to air it when I want I can also do this without reverting to calling people a ” fool “…
So I’m glad u were willing the team on stood in a piss soaked gallowgate end but quite frankly If u want to call me a fool I couldn’t care less what u have to say or were u standinh 20 years ago, jog on fella!!
63 Thump // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:47 PM
@lou9brasil: Keegan certainly isn’t a saint. He has walked out on almost every club he’s been at (including England) and has a nasty habit of spitting the dummy out and buying toys solely to throw them out of the pram. As FFS said “I have [Keegan's] resignation letters framed”.
However he was well within his right to sue the club. His contract had that clause for £2m, Keegan claims it was his lawyers who wanted the £8m but we all know he was pushing for it.
64 coolcatcarter89 // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:50 PM
To be frank, I couldn’t care less what KK says, do you really think his opinion has any bearing on what plans we have for the summer? Which are likely already underway.
65 Thump // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:55 PM
Well said cc89
66 lou9brasil // Mar 1, 2011 at 7:58 PM
Thump
it just makes me laugh how the keegan yuppies all think he is whiter than White, yes he was within his rights to sue but then again he didn’t have to walk out and leave us a few weeks into a new season…
I agree with u though mate the man just has history of spitting his dummy out!!!
67 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM
i akno wiki isnt worth anything bcoz anyone can write on it but has anyone seen this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Luna_Rodr%C3%ADguez
read the club info part says reports he is on the verge of joinin us 19 year old left back
68 stuart no9 // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:08 PM
ed the mere fact that we are having this poll to see who thinks ash will invest the AC money, (almost split 50/50) tells me half the fans have gave him a vote of no confidence.HALF , that is amazing WHY? . i am on the no confidence side, as i have seen nothing to suggest to me he has got our club at heart only time will tell , but i am not holding my breath
69 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:10 PM
this one suggests that perotti n rodriqeuz will move to us in summer from sevilla for a combined fee of 9m eurohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Perottis
70 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:11 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Perotti
look at the club info bit wud be great if true
71 stuart no9 // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:33 PM
lou9brasil
KK is actually doing the fans a good turn here , ok he walkedout on us , BUT, would you not have done the same if you had to put up with, what he had to, ie mr wise coming in to take over as director of football, lol lol, he couldnt tie kks boots, so let him rant on about ash not reinvesting the AC money , one of them is going to be proved wrong, and i doubt very much if that is going to be KK
72 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:38 PM
i dont kno bout anybody else but am excited to see kezenga laulau come bk from injury from what pardew has said he really rates him n he will get his chance
73 chuck // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:40 PM
Blah blah, Keegan, blah blah Ashley, joey, Thump, bump, this toon, that toon,moon, broon, geordie this, georgdie that, blah blah blah.
FFS listen to yourselves, you are boring people to death with re runs of stuff thats been done to death, enough already !
74 safferman // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:42 PM
interesting pics on the origins of NUFC
http://www.stuffbypaulbrown.com/before-st-james-park-origins-newcastle-unite/
75 gorskino10 // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:43 PM
CoolCarter@
Course not, but thats my observation from the words they have used, when everyone connected to the club have said the money will go “Into The Club” and Pardew stating he “Hopes” to get some of that money they know it will be reinvested into the club not reinvesting on buying players.
davis_toons @
Yes i agree, that it would be good but it all depends on WHO will leave if Jose goes and others we may have some problems. not just posistional wise but for other players they may not sign new deals or want to leave if they KEEP seeing the best being sold, i hope we will spend a bulk on a TOP striker and a few bargain freebies but i hope we dont ONLY get freebies like Elmander OR rely on Elmander for the goals Judas got as El has done well this season but his ratio is average to say the least.
lobacka@
All depends if we CAN keep our best if we start selling our better players it will be a bad window, ATM i dont have much faith in them buying the right kind of players on there own back, our top scout is great but if we buy the likes of Carlton Cole for 10 Mill it will be a horrible window/summer.
76 gorskino10 // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:49 PM
Strange news on Perotti and Antonio Rodriguez, i mean Sevilla have done aweful this season and may be trying to get rid of players to start a fresh?
I have my worries on both of them. Luna isnt strong enough or quick enough to do well in the EPL (watch game vs Barca got ripped apart), much like Jose it will take 2 seasons or so for him to bulk up and start to do well, may be one for the future or a replacement for Jose if he is, he isnt good enough as of yet, but as a youth to take over Joses place in a few seasons then would be a good buy.
Perotti is a bigger signing but i have worries over him he struggles with strenght in La Liga he falls over all the times and crossing isnt that great but could be a great signing if he got stronger or could be a waste of money like Xisco etc.
77 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:54 PM
gorskino10 – hav u heard anything more solid on perotti n rodriqeuz that it cud be true or jus a rumour still
78 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:55 PM
@76 just becoz i read sumwere today someones comments who seem to think its a done deal
79 davybtoon // Mar 1, 2011 at 8:58 PM
am sure lualua n donaldsons contracts are up in the summer should we renew any of them i wud give lualua a new long term deal n hopin to see moyo develop more next season
80 Ezedoesit // Mar 1, 2011 at 9:24 PM
Let’s just all hope and expect Pardew gets to spend more than half that money in the summer. If it doesn’t happen ten that’s when we can start being negative again.
Check out this funny video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL8uOqYo_00&feature=youtube_gdata_player
81 GeordieGerman // Mar 1, 2011 at 9:49 PM
chuck, “geordie this, georgdie that”. What have I done?
Just watched Fox Chelski – Man U. Chelski got a free kick and Cole took it and missed. The commentator said. “I don’t know how he missed that. He’s had enough target practice this week”.
I spat my beer out with laughing.
82 solano // Mar 1, 2011 at 10:25 PM
lou9brasil…no I don’t want a medal…but if you if you are offering, it might be the only one coming to these parts for another few years yet….your “facts “are spurious….”he should have stayed until we were safe”???It was September 1st when he was forced out!!! There wasn’t a relegation situation until the Fat Man got JFK in….yes, we need to move on but not by re-writing history and forgetting the facts in favour of blindly following the “club” line…..I just don’t see how we can manage to build on a small but promising nucleus of players if we are willing to cash in everytime the transfer window opens…..
If you want to rant shite and let off steam, why don’t you “jog on ” round to my place and participate in a few rounds of pugilistic art?
83 gorskino10 // Mar 1, 2011 at 10:43 PM
davybtoon@
No it was just the Wiki edit by someone but tbh its a rather strange combo, we have been linked with Perotti already but adding that Antonio Rodriguez who is hardly a known player means there could be some ounce of truth but atm its just rumour nothing concrete.
“lualua n donaldsons”
Keep Lua Lua a good winger and showed it we will get his contract tied up in summer i reckon but for Ryan im not sure didnt look impresive the times ive seen him.
Perotti scored tonight for Sevilla, Gijon are down to 10 but good to see him playing and scoring (his 2nd goal this season in Liga).
84 newcastleun1ted.blogspot.com // Mar 1, 2011 at 11:25 PM
solano spot on
85 spanishtoon // Mar 2, 2011 at 12:41 AM
ssssh…whisper it…do we like Pardew?
http://www.nufcnews.com/?p=80
86 Widowmaker // Mar 2, 2011 at 3:52 AM
Good post, Solano.
While I was also very disappointed by KK’s second departure, I wouldn’t blame him. Try put ourselves in the situation.
I remember I saw the news around Soho area London the first time he resigned, I was very devastating. Oh, and I did not realise that no single manager could yet copy his achievement as a Toon boss in recent history. Not even Sir Bobby.
When he returned, I was having my holiday in Maldevs and I am sure people who lived in other islands had hear me screaming. Cos, I had realised that no one manager could yet to achieve what he has achieved as our manager. No, not even the great Sir Bobby.
Pay some respects to the man. KK did quit the job twice, but where this club would be without him?
Would I want him come back? No, not again. But he is still the biggest hero to me until someone could actually win something for us.
87 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Mar 2, 2011 at 6:34 AM
Spent the last half hour reading all this!
A lot of you are all entitled to your opinions about what has happened in the past ten years! But what is more important is the present!
Keegan has gone as have JK and Fat Sam! This is now history and we need to concentrate on the future!
Whether the money from Carrolls transfer will be re-invested? Who knows, some of it may well be.
It was not the fact that Carroll was sold that peeved me the most at the time. It was the fact that Pardew was,nt given the time to get a suitable replacement in ! If Ashley had an ounce of sense he would of negotiated the sale of AC at the beginning of the window and not two mins before it closed!
As for all this debate about Keegan! Been there, said it , done that, and oh yeh! Just reminds me how passionate i am about the club. You all still want to debate events that happened years ago.
I just want us to get on and win something major! In my lifetime, lord knows i,ve been waiting long enough!
Now lets jog on and get three points on Sat!
88 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 7:01 AM
Stuart, my fat maggot loving friend, answer me This? What has Mike Ashley done for this club?
Paid the debt? Nope… So let’s rule that out, in the past 4-5 years…. What has mike the greedy maggot Ashley done for this club! I mean, you are using words like FACT so I presume you are very close to jabba! Are you the salacious crumb?
As for KK, nothing but a bitter old man trying to curry favor with the majority of the fans who know what fatty is all about!!
These polls are irrelevant. Does not matter what fans think, we are a little hump in a big long straight road to mike cashiers savings account!!
The man doesn’t care bout us or the team! If he can achieve a mid table finish from now til the day he goes out with a huge weight causing coronary (fingers crossed) he will reap the rewards of dedicated fans hard earned, tv money , EPL placement money and marketing revenue!!
Seemples
89 bills-son // Mar 2, 2011 at 7:36 AM
I’ve posted before that saying we are a selling club under MA is just pure nonsense.
We sold Milner, N’Zogbia and Given before relegation. Of the three only Milner (possibly) hadn’t demanded a move and at the time £12M was a great price.
After relegation the likes of Owen, Martins, Duff, Bassong etc., wouldn’t play in the Fizzy and we and the rest of the players didn’t want most of them to stay anyway.
And then AC … I’ll tell you why we didn’t have anyone lined up. Because MA never thought any club would pay £35M for a CF with just 16 Premier games. He turned down £15M and £20M bids from Spurs before the window – is that what selling clubs do? NO! MA then turned down £25M and £30M on deadline day – is that what selling clubs do? NO! He then said ‘pay £35M with a 25% sell on clause’ – is that what selling clubs do? NO! It’s called FN GOOD BUSINESS because EVERY player has his price – even Ronaldo.
Every club sells players – you can’t just keep adding to the squad. MA has sold only TWO players – Milner and Carroll – who arguably we could have kept IF we were prepared to have unhappy Harry’s in the squad.
The neggers on here need to get a reality check.
NUFC are in a better position both squad wise, financially and managerially than we have been for years. Thats a fact.
MA will spend c£20M in the summer – I have absolutely no doubt about that. Unless he gets a knockout offer for the club he is now here for the long term.
I for one am more than happy to have him in charge.
90 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 7:39 AM
For bills son see daydream believer!!
What’s mike Ashley done for our football club!
I suggest you think long and hard before answering!!
91 bills-son // Mar 2, 2011 at 7:59 AM
Angryman the Angry fan – What’s mike Ashley done for our football club! I suggest you think long and hard before answering!!
Well pal – you obviously didn’t think for vey long did you?
Let’s take your shi%%y tinted glasses off and look at it clearly.
When MA bought the club we were deep in the financial crap – deeper than any fan ever imagined. It was also deeper than MA could have believe and – although that was his fault – he has bailed us out to the tune of £287M in unsecured personal loans.
He bo%%oxed up with Keegan and Wise. We all know that, including MA, that got us relegated. BUT its how you react to your mistakes that defines the man – and MA didn’t hide or run away.
He could have sold last year to Barry Moat and cut his losses but he didn’t because he knew Moat didn’t have enough dosh to run the club properly. He appointed Hoots against the fans wishes and that decision got us promoted.
So – having got us relegated and in the finnacial crap – he got us promoted and financially stable. Ask Boro and Leeds fans what they would give for THAT bonny lad.
So – the likes of you blame him for the relegation but don’t give him credit for the promtion? How pathetic is that.
He screwed £35M out of LFC for an unproven CF, had the bravery to appoint AP (the RIGHT decision IMO) and is handing out long term contracts to secure our best players. Not all will sign – Enrique for example – but thats life pal.
Now – you tell me what MA has done wrong since we got relegated. And give facts pal not nonsensical rants about him being a fat cocknt bstad.
Over to you.
92 bills-son // Mar 2, 2011 at 8:07 AM
Angryman the Angry fan – For bills son see daydream believer!!
It MUST be a dream …
… 9th in the Premier
… 7th if we hadn’t let in two last minute goals
… almosr certain Premier security by February
… outside chance of qualifying for Europe
… 4 points off the Mackems
… Pardew keeping the squad spirit going
… Tiote signing 6.5 year deal
… £35M in the bank
… the best squad of players for years
… some excellent young prospects
… money to spend this summer
Angryman – is it a dream???
Please tell me its not.
93 Banbridge Mags // Mar 2, 2011 at 8:59 AM
I personally think that Ashley will reinvest around 60% of the AC transfer fee. Love him or hate him, the man is shrewd and is alining the club financially to comply with FIFA rules for 2014 which should put us already 2 or 3 seasons ahead of the other mid-table clubs. There is a plan, have faith folks
94 Rotonda heights // Mar 2, 2011 at 9:25 AM
Bills son,
Superb.
Unfotunately a lot of ignorance goes on.
95 Stuart // Mar 2, 2011 at 10:20 AM
Angry Man my old sparring partner, how very like you to jump on an arguement when its finished.
The FACT I was refering to if you could read is that we made bids for players before the window closed and that we’ve signed tiote on a long-term contract.
I’m sorry, is that wrong? Do you have some kind of inside track?
Prick.
96 Spartan // Mar 2, 2011 at 10:34 AM
We should have no complaints provided Ashley spends most of the AC money which is £35m plus whatever AC was earning. I also don’t want any last minute sales of top players (because we get a good price) but with time to find replacements, which is then swiftly followed by a promise to reinvest in the next transfer window. This seems to have been the preferred way of doing business over the past few years so that there is always money to theoretically reinvest but as soon as it is reinvested other players then get sold and so it never always gets reinvested.
97 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Please see below fromn your most wonderfully THOUGHT of and constructed list:
It MUST be a dream …
… 9th in the Premier – Is this guaranteed, Id like to hope so, even higher if possible but not confirmed
… 7th if we hadn’t let in two last minute goals – we did!! we’re not!!
… almosr certain Premier security by February – I hope we are secure now, but been supporting this team for over thirty years and learned to take nowt for granted!!
… outside chance of qualifying for Europe – See last answer!!
… 4 points off the Mackems – last time i looked it was 1 point…(Oh dear is this debate falling to bits)
… Pardew keeping the squad spirit going – It certainly looks like that, its rumoured that Bartoon aint happy though
… Tiote signing 6.5 year deal – Same sort of deal as Carrolls 5 year…not worth the paper its written, it just makes Ashley richer when he sells him!!
… £35M in the bank – should really have been sepct on a replacement, just like Liverpool did for torres!!
… the best squad of players for years – This i actually agree with !! Not down to Ashley!!!
… some excellent young prospects – Again i agree, is this down to Mike Ashley?? Most definitely NOT.
… money to spend this summer – hahahah and what evidence do you have that this is actually a fact – look at the history of Ashleys Regime!!
Angryman – is it a dream??? 90% of it is a dream!!!!!
I want my team to be successful, to win trophies. As long as Long as the FCB is in charge of this club, we will be a mid table mediocre team….he has done not one thing to prove me wrong in five years…….a leopard never changes his spots!!!
Please tell me its not.
98 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Oh dear oh dear, does it make you teeny weener grow when you call people names. Each to their own i suppose.
The laughable thing about your argument is the FACTS that Fat Maggot tried to buy Z’Zoggy ion the cheap 15 mins beofre the transfer window closed from his worst enemy in the business industry….PMSL. And you actually think that is fact….
I’ll bet the More grown up people on here, Bills son etc truly believed that scam…ahahah NOT.
Stuart, you really need to take a look down your trousers, and when Your clenkers are big enough and have a wee bit of stubble on, comeback and open a proper debate, a debate where you dont call people names….as sticks and stones may break my bones…..
99 Widowmaker // Mar 2, 2011 at 10:40 AM
bills-son,
While I can’t disagree with you on the fact that every club sell players at some point, but we do act like a selling club.
Top clubs like Man U, Arsenal and co don’t sell their first team players without a good replacement lined up, but our board couldn’t careless about how we might be affected on field once a decent offer comes. We paid the price for Milner sale and it seems we are lucky this time with Carrol sale.
100 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Look guys,
All im basically saying I do not put my hard earned cash into this club to watch my hard earned held in safe hands!! Okay
This is Newcastle United Football Club, the biggest slice of that trade name is teh Football team, i want my money to go into making that team successful….still with me??? So basically, shove your profit back into the team, make sure you break even year on year and make sure we have a team to be proud of at the end of every season!!
If you dont want that and your more iterested in NUFC as a Profitable business, i suggest You F11ck right off and take the Fat Maggot with you…..preferrably on a stalled helicopter while 15000 feet high above the stadium of Sh!te !!
101 Stuart // Mar 2, 2011 at 10:46 AM
I dont see the point in arguing with you angry man, you’re name and your rants say it all, you’re the most pessimistic supporter ive ever known.
You say you want the team to be successful but what would happen if it did? I bet you’d still bitch and moan about everything.
Plus, newcastle tried to sign N’Zogbia, Crouch and a few other players if I remember correctly. I’m not saying they would’ve been good buys. My point was money is obviously available.
As for your point about having the best squad in years and the best youth for years. Who do you think its down to?
Where would our squad come from if he didnt buy them?
Plus MA has put alot of focus on our youth academy since he bought the club as its part of his ‘model’.
Playsers like Krul, Vuckic, Moyo etc were all brought in under MA and are all tipped for the future.
Like bills-son said, take your sh**ty tinted glasses off and stop being so miserable.
102 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 10:49 AM
Widowmaker,
I have no gripe whatsoever with the sale of the Gypo Carroll.
Honestly, cracking price, my gripe is, we didnt have anyone to replace him or we could have said no!! Not until a repalcement is found???
Then our intelligence was insulted with the supposed bids for Zoggy n Richardson 15 mins before the window closed….rubbish, complete and utter rubbish!!
these people cannot be trusted!!
103 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 10:57 AM
Stuart,
Look back over the last 30 years, we have ALWAYS had promising youngsters…ALWAYS! whether they make the grade time will tell, Maggot hasnt been there for 30 years, understand???
The academy, okay glory boy, here goes, Sir John Hall had a vision that no Geordie football player would be allowed to slip the net, so HE invested in an NUFC football academy……Fat Maggot continued this, nothing more!!
WTF youy on about 2 where would our squad come form if he didnt buy them” eh?? does not make sense in the slightest!!
And you are one of a small percentage that believes N’Zoggy, Crouch and few others were bid for PMSL. You are quite amusing…i shall call you gullibles travels from now on…..and we shall have a good giggle at your posts at the match this weekend
Vukcic, Moyo, Krul were all brought in under Maggot…hahahah He’ll make someone a cracking scout then when he eventually F11cks off from here!!!
104 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Stuart,
as a footnote, as I think you need a wee bit of help son, i HATE the owner of this club with a passion, he ranks up and around the McKeags and westwoods of my era, right up there, BUT the one thing i do love is the football team i support home and away, i spend thousands of pounds a year carrying out this love, and i never ever slag any player off!!
I love NUFC, i hate people who abuse it.
Thats all!!
105 Stuart // Mar 2, 2011 at 11:03 AM
I give up mate, I can’t be arsed, you’re as stubborn as a mule.
You carry on ‘supporting’ the club your way, and I’ll carry on supporting it mine.
I honestly can’t understand why you’d want to if you seemingly can’t seem to find a single good thing about it.
106 Stuart // Mar 2, 2011 at 11:06 AM
Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Stuart,
as a footnote, as I think you need a wee bit of help son, i HATE the owner of this club with a passion, he ranks up and around the McKeags and westwoods of my era, right up there, BUT the one thing i do love is the football team i support home and away, i spend thousands of pounds a year carrying out this love, and i never ever slag any player off!!
I love NUFC, i hate people who abuse it.
You must really hate yourself then.
Listen, I don’t come on here to argue, I come on to talk about my club. I just can’t understand how some people can come on here and absolutely never have a good thing to say about their club.
We’re obviously never going to agree on anything so theres no point carrying on.
107 dave 1961 // Mar 2, 2011 at 11:32 AM
The new fifa fair play rules are not intended to affect the likes of man city or Chelsea, or man u, its only to stop a Leeds or Portsmouth situation, and an owner will be able to invest as much into the club as they like, what they will not be able to do is build up massive debts, with the hope of champions league football to finance it. and even if one of the famous “G” clubs are in massive debt they will still be allowed into European football, as it was brilliantly surmised by someone on hear, they will just start up the talk of a European super league again. & on the subject of the £35m its foolish to talk in money terms we need to be strengthened in the summer and need 4-5 new players, if we get the right players in we are a force in the premier league, if we don’t get the right players in, simply we will have missed a great opportunity to move forward. and on Pardew his clock starts ticking in august, to build him up too soon could be counterproductive, as once they reach such heights the only way is then down. I will keep an open mind on Pardew and give him every chance to succeed or fail, I have positives & negatives on Pardew, but I will make a judgment on how he does next season, by firstly the entertainment & secondly how successful we are. On Ashley I don’t care if he spends £5m or £50m+ I just care he brings in the right players.
108 dave 1961 // Mar 2, 2011 at 11:43 AM
If Krul was brought in while Ashley owned the club how did he play in a European game, we have never played in Europe under Ashley !yet!!!
109 solano // Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM
Stuart..”I don’t come on here to argue”…very diplomatic of you……it was “f*ck Kevin Keegan” yesterday after he expressed his opinion! ………..it must be very gratifying waking up to a brand new world every day, where anything and everything is possible with the wonderful people we have in charge of our club….those of us who have memories that stretch beyond yesterday are genuinely concerned, as supporters, that a promising set of players will be sold off and allowed to flower at other clubs in the interests of short term profits…..there is widespread cynicism but there are very good reasons why…….
110 Stuart // Mar 2, 2011 at 11:53 AM
My apologies dave, obviously got that one wrong then. He has brought alot of quality youth players in though.
111 bills-son // Mar 2, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Angryman the Angry fan
According to your logic I have to agree that Ashley has been a disaster this year …
Why? Because we are doing far, far, better than the relegation battling, player flogging, wage cutting, crowd flagging mess that you and your cronies reckon is the ‘plan’ that Ashley had for this season.
Long may this ‘mismanagement’ continue.
112 Widowmaker // Mar 2, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Angryman the Angry fan
Well said. I think the 35M for Carrol is too good to turn down as well.
Credit to the board, the gamblers had won this time.
113 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM
Bills -son are you all there?
Maggot has had absolutely nothing at all to do with the success on the pitch!!
What has he done?? Come on fill me with YOUR logic??
114 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM
As a matter of Fact, I would say that Maggott done his best to scupper the team spirit with the last minute sale of the Highly thought of Andy Carroll, with no replacement lined up or even better, as per Liverpool, a replacement through the door.
Pardew insisted, on the run up and through the whole transfer window, that he needed to supplement his “offensive areas” of the pitch with at least 2 signings?? Out goes routledge, xisco, carroll, in comes ireland, oh I mean a crocked ireland…. where was the cockney maggots backing then!! Come on oh all knowing sage of the Maggot appreciation society.
Just tell me WHY he failed to do right by his Manager, oh and more importantly the football team!!
115 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM
Stuart,
Correct.
I tend not to listen much to people who call me names, I mean ‘prick’ was their really any need because my opinion differs to yours.
I would also be very interested in you pointing out where I have abused NUFC in any of my posts???
Unless….of course…..knowing your hero worship of The Fat Maggot…..you actually think that he IS NUFC??? Again, I am only hoping this is dry humour….next you’ll be telling me The FCB is Dave Whelans drinking buddy and N’zoggy is really his love child, and they tried all they could to get a deal done before transfer deadline closed !!
116 Davies // Mar 2, 2011 at 2:20 PM
The club’s being run well at the moment. Better than it has been for years. Sure, the new owner had a few bumps and there are those who will continue to slag him off because they aren’t prepared to believe he is learning from his mistakes, but we’re in a better position than I, or any other supporter with a grain of intelligence would have dreamed at the beginning of this season.
I’m with Stuart on just about all of his posts. Angryman and I have argued before and there is no getting through to him. It would appear he has a crystal ball which tells him what is going to happen, otherwise it’s just blind hatred from an imbecile who thinks his opinion is fact.
The turning point in the relegation season was when Keegan left, and I blame both him and Ashley for that (I’m sorry, but for £3m a year I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t just bend over. The word “untenable” should not even be in Keegan’s dictionary under those circumstances). Many will disagree, but we were on that road before Mike Ashley ever arrived. It was bound to happen sooner or later, but without the investment the club received, it would have been a lot worse.
We’re back where we belong and look to be improving by the week and, thankfully, large sections of the support are beginning to be won over by the current manager, who seems to know what he’s doing.
Somebody posted somewhere above that people should read the article properly, claiming that Pardew said the money would be reinvested in the club. In actual fact, this person clearly didn’t read the article properly, as Pardew said that the money would be reinvested in the SQUAD, not the club.
You guys know that the money from player sales belong to the club, right?
The only way Ashley can claim a penny is through dividends, which he says he isn’t taking, or through recovering the money the club owes him, which he says he isn’t going to do until the club can afford it.
I think we’ll buy in the summer. I really do. I just hope we don’t sell players and not replace them. If we’re challenging for bigger things, we’ll need a bigger squad, not just a better one.
On a related note, it’s good to see that Pardew is also talking about bringing through Ferguson and Tavernier next year. Cracking young players, the pair of them.
117 Davies // Mar 2, 2011 at 2:33 PM
Angryman – You don’t hand over your hard earned cash to have it kept in safe hands, you hand it over to watch a match, same sa anyone else.
What happens to it after that is beyond your control and, probably, undersatnding. Football clubs aren’t run on simply buying the players you want and selling the ones you don’t fancy.
Honestly, I couldn’t give two sh1ts if you hate Ashley, or you don’t trust him. Nobody cares, least of all Ashley, who will continue to run the club his way, with or without your blessing.
You got that? Your ignorant opinion counts for Jack 5hit, my old son!
I’ve already figured out that my opinion doesn’t count, so I will put faith in the manner in which our club appears to be going forward.
Not a lot of substance in your posts, or fact, just opinion, (needless) anger, and abuse. If you’re not a teenager, you should be a little embarassed, because you sound like one.
I’m sure you’ll have an intelligent, well thought out, fact based response. I look forward to it.
118 solano // Mar 2, 2011 at 5:14 PM
Davies….the logic in your last post doesn’t make sense….you recognise that your “opinion doesn’t count” just as the rest of us do, …so why would you have such blind faith in a man who has shown no inclination to communicate and has shown nothing but contempt for his customers…….??? MA is only a custodian of the club….it is nothing without the fans who support it
Everyone wants to see us going forward and progressing but UNTIL we start to think a bit bigger than looking to develop players just so they can be sold on for a profit there are going to be us so-called “neggers” questioning your faith in successful business = successsful team.
Seems a lot around here have lost their backbone….and will accept anything put out by Ashley’s mouthpieces……..
119 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 6:41 PM
Sorry Davies, disappointed that just because you don’t agree with my opinion, I am classed as an imbecile!
Oh well, you live n learn!
Guess only your opinion counts? And anyone who dis agrees is am imbecile? Or a teenager?
Didn’t anyone ever teach you that when you resort to petty name calling, the argument is as good as lost?
Therefore this makes me the victor in such debates. As I was with Stuart who thinks I’m a ‘prick’ because my opinion doesn’t match his?
I mean honestly? Who do you think looks a little silly now!
Anyway back to business, what has Fat cash maggot done good for this football club?
120 Angryman the Angry fan // Mar 2, 2011 at 6:50 PM
Solano,
Spot on! Can safely say that the so called neggers are not the blinkered ones, they don’t just see Nufc as A business proposition, we see it as a football club with the main body of that being the TEAM!!
121 ASTORIA // Mar 2, 2011 at 10:43 PM
I can’t believe how many on here are talking as if they are reading from a statement released by Ashley and Llambias? Most are now just concerned about us being financially secure and lowering the wage bill etc. Me…I just want to see a successful team and the directors who are paid 6 figure salaries can worry about that, or heavens forbid our billionaire owner could put some money in? He hasn’t in 42 months (that he wont get back anyway!!!) so far!!!
122 ASTORIA // Mar 2, 2011 at 11:01 PM
Angryman, class post about the helicopter. You have a unique way of expressing yourself that others (Stuart in particular) may not appreciate but for what it’s worth I agree with you on most things…I don’t trust Ashley one bit and never will. I know Stuart is trying to see the good in people and remain positive and we must appreciate that also, however I feel his trust is misplaced, however commendable. Don’t think his Keegan rant was the best either and I found it offence and insulting to a true gentleman who sweat blood for our club.
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