Fans Split Down The Middle In Ashley Reinvestment Poll

We started a poll on February 17th asking if fans thought that Newcastle owner Mike Ashley would reinvest back into the squad, the £35M in transfer fee, the club received for Andy Carroll.

Will Mike Ashley Reinvest £35M From Carroll Sale Into Stengthening The Squad?

  • Yes (41%, 504 Votes)
  • No (39%, 482 Votes)
  • Not Sure (20%, 254 Votes)

Total Voters: 1,240

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And since Kevin Keegan’s comments yesterday on BBC Radio Newcastle, where he said that he didn’t think manager Alan Pardew would see any of that money, it seems a good time to end the poll and publish the results.

By reinvesting, we meant that the money wouldn’t necessarily all be spent on just transfer fees, but on players’ wages too, and that would count as a valid reinvestment of the money received for big Andy.

We’ve just closed the poll and it couldn’t have been much closer, split right down the middle, as the results above show clearly.

Mike Ashley – Newcastle owner

Each reader is only allowed one vote in all of our polls, and one reason for that is that it doesn’t allow more extreme views to significantly alter the results.

For instance, one person voting a hundred times or more as one example, which we’ve seen is allowed in some other of the polls we’ve seen, and we think that allows extreme views to significantly alter the results one way or the other.

One vote per reader gives a more accurate reflection of what the fans really think.

So the results are the opinions of  some 1240 different readers of this web-site, and 504 voted yes that Mike would reinvest the money (41%), 487 voted no (39%) and a rather sizable 254 (20% were not sure.

We have very right to believe the reason that one in five fans just don’t know what Mike will do, is because they hardly know who the guy even is – because he never talks to his customers – the Newcastle fans.

And at the significant risk of sounding like an old broken record the one thing Mike could do to improve his relations with Newcastle fans – is to talk to them – communicate with them – tell them what he’s thinking – and what he’s planning for the club as we move ahead – because quite honestly we have very little idea what Mike really thinks.

If Mike or Managing Director Derek LLambias don’t want to do it, then tell Alan Pardew and have the manger pass it on to the fans, because there’s one thing we are very impressed about Alan – and that’s his excellent communications skills, which are really good, and he’s very comfortable with the press.

After all, close to 50,000 fans spend their hard-earned money every other Saturday to attend the home games, so they deserve some respect and some words from the owner.

One way of expressing the results is to point out that a rather large 59% of readers either think he will not invest the money or are not sure he will invest, and 41% think he will – and we were in that 41%.

The only real conclusion we can draw from these results is the Newcastle fans are truly split right down the middle on whether Ashley will invest that £35M.

The good news is we should know the answer in about six months time, when August 31st rolls around.

On second thoughts, make that when September 1st rolls around.

Comments welcome, but please respect other readers’ views.

122 comments so far

  • Stuart

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #1

    The fact that once we’d sold AC we made a few bids for players before the window closed, plus the fact we’ve tied down Tiote for 6 and a half years means that yes, the money will be re-invested.

  • Drona

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #2

    This is his chance to redeem himself. If he doesn’t reinvest, I’m sure the fans are going to cause havoc and protest in the summer so that he sells up

  • boing123

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #3

    Split down the middle – perhaps this is a sign that MA will re-invest HALF the money. In fact, that’s quite a likely outcome from past experience.

    P.S. Where did all the money from Milner, Martins, Duff, Bassong etc go to?

  • Thump

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #4

    That’s a rather bold statement, Ed.

    Okay, I’ll stop now.

  • Stuart

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #5

    boing, that money went to clearing debts and keeping the club afloat, you have to realise we lost alot of revenue when we got relegated with less money from Sky etc.

  • GeordieGerman

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #6

    Has NUFC ever had a board that communicates with the fans? I can’t remember one.

  • Stuart

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #7

    GG, do many clubs?

  • boing123

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #8

    Stuart, I place the blame for the relegation squarely on MA. We were on the way up with KK before MA tried his stunts. Therefore, to me, it’s only right that MA paid for the relegation. The transfer money belonged to the club and should have gone to new players.

  • Stuart

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #9

    But you cant change the fact that we were relegated and in massive debt, if he’d just spent the money anyway there wouldnt be a club for us to support lol.

  • free giveaways

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:27 PM

    Comment #10

    Pardew has already said the £35m will be for transfer fees and wages. Why can’t we spend the whole £35m, or at least £25m on transfer fees? Carroll’s wages are off the books now and in the summer Enrique, Smith, Xisco and Guthrie’s will probably be as well.

  • boing123

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #11

    I think the biggest problem was that MA did not realise he wasn’t rich enough to own a football club, let alone such a big club as Newcastle.

  • chuck

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #12

    Will there be money invested in players.
    Well apparently Pardew has stated that he has Mikes word on it, whatever thats worth ?
    There also appears to be some confusion on the amount, some mentioning thirty five million, others stating thirty million plus a 25% sell on clause ?
    It has also been mentioned that members of the playing staff have asked for guarantees of the clubs ambitions, through a strengthening the side before extending their contracts.
    It`s also rumored Enrique, will now wait untill summer before renewing, rather than when the critical 40 point level is reached.
    Appears he is hedging his bet, in order to get the best deal out there.
    So much for all the badge kissing, in the end it`s simply about the dosh init ?

  • ThaiMag

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #13

    I think we should spend the whole 35m on new players excluding wages. If we had not sold AC, does that mean we have no money to spend in the summer?

  • SirAlan

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #14

    Stuart is Ignorant, no need to say more

  • GeordieTwo

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #15

    You are right to be cynical chuck, Keegan can tell you what Ashley’s word is worth, nowt. He will spend as little as possible and only to improve his own chances of profit. Tiote was only signed to a long term deal to maximize Ashley’s profit when he is sold as with Carroll. Ashley made the mistake of not re-signing Jose earlier but has learned from that with Tiote. I think there will be some money spent on new player(s) in the summer but nothing like 30 or 35 million. We are a balance the books club now so high wage earners like Colo will have to leave also or take a huge pay cut. Let’s watch carefully this summer.

  • thepict

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #16

    Boing it was down to certain players and we know who they were that we were relegated. Yes, Ashley made a b@@@cks of the Keegan situation and has paid for it. Don’t forget, Keegan walked out of the club on at least 3 occasions.
    It was players performances and an inexperienced manager that got us relegated. Ashley is a business man and if he wants to sell the club he knows he has to invest.

  • estechco

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #17

    I missed that poll, but would have probably gone for a “not sure” vote. As boing suggests, I suspect we will see some but not all of it reinvested.

    Tiote (and others) pay rises need to be factored in, but only offset against what they would have earned under their previous terms. Likewise, if you are going to treat AC’s £35m as a lump sum then presumably the lengthy remainder of his newly signed contract should also play some part?

    I also agree with free_giveaways that the loss of other big earners this summer should be factored into the mix when deciding what is available to be spent…but then who the hell am I?!?

  • chuck

    Mar 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #18

    Am I hallucinating or did Ashley state he would invest a certain amount in bringing in players every season, following his purchase of the club ?
    How many years is it now into the five year plan? sounds like were in the old Soviet Union here, all kinds of plans and no real results.
    We were battling in the top six with SBR, playing in Europe!
    Guess the revolving door management system
    has`nt worked out.
    Ah well, we will kick ass next season, with what is it thirty odd million worth of new faces .

  • Stuart

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #19

    How exactly am I ignorant siralan? For stating facts?

    The way some of you go on you’d be much happier if it wasnt invested just so you could keep bitching and moaning.

    Grow up eh siralan, if you’re going to argue with me you should actually have a point.

  • MacToon

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #20

    Ashley used to drink with fans before and after matches, he managed to communicate OK then but we all found out he was lying through his teeth…..

    So we’re told Carroll isn’t for sale (sigh) and then his transfer fee will be re-invested….. 😆 pull the other one… some people are so gullible.

  • Stuart

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #21

    Oh but I forgot, according to you I’m from manchester and don’t support newcastle…so what would I know eh?

  • GeordieGerman

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #22

    chuck, I think relegation chucked all that. Probably all been delayed a year or so.

  • GeordieTwo

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:08 PM

    Comment #23

    It will take a careful look at the accounts to find out if Ashley is really re-investing in the team. Reduced wages will make a huge difference over time and definitely will affect who decides to stay. The Ashley method will only work if we have a decent crop of youngsters all the time coming up and competing for jobs who will accept low wages to start and allow Ashley to sell players in their prime for profit without affecting the status of the team in the Prem too much. With a proper owner surely St. James could be expanded to 60,000 to rival the emirates which would increase income. A proper owner would commit to getting us into Europe next season by spending carefully but competing for good players in the 24-26 range in their prime. Let’s wait and see what our owner actually does. So far I see a rapidly improving financial picture but where will the money end up? Most likely in Ashley’s pocket.

  • lewman

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #24

    chuck aswell as the nrelegation that gg stated, we also had all the fees from martins etc.. that hadnt been paid off aswell as various other debts that ashley hadnt taken into account but he did put 25 million in at one point last season and his interest free loans are a bit better than man u’s glazier familys 14% interest debts on the club.

  • Stuart

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #25

    Whats wrong siralan, black cat got your tongue?

    Sick people like you having a go at me for being positive about the club. I honestly apologise from the bottom of my heart but I just can’t reach your excellent standards of pessimism.

    I can’t help it, I just like to look on the positive side when I’m talking about my team.

    I will try my hardest to change my ways and I’ll be bitching and moaning soon enough, because we all know that makes someone a real fan.

    (Sorry to everyone else for the rant, I just can’t stand people like him)

  • thetoonarmybarracks

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #26

    It couldnt be closer. Really interesting poll.

  • wynsleap

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #27

    As I said on another thread if Ashley was to keep his early promise of injecting £20 mill. per year into the club he could pay for all those extra wages and renewed contracts in the summer window and then use the reputed £35 mill. for actual acquisitions.
    Unfortunately as we know this isn’t going to happen and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally deluded.
    The Controller just doesn’t do spending on recruitment.

  • davybtoon

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #28

    i think the money will be reinvested i think we will see maybe one siging of 10mill say then i think we will sign 2/3players for a couple of mill like tiote style signing then i think we cud see 3/4 free agents come in, with maybe a few leaving
    players out
    routledge, xisco, campbell, kuqi,guthrie,lovenkrands,smith maybe jose if he wont do a new deal but id only sell him to milan or barca

    players in hopefully
    gervinho the 1omill signing
    ireland 6m
    marveux free
    perrotti 6m
    antonio rodriqeuz 2m
    maybes on frees elmander n bradley johnson, ashly williams or pratley
    a couple of players from france on cheap

  • coolcatcarter89

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #29

    Freegiveaways – that has been my arguement for some time. AC, Smith, Routledge, Xisco, Sol, Lovenkrands, Raylor, Perch, possibly Guthrie AND Joeys admirable pay-cut, should he sign; all likely deductions from our wage bill, realistically totalling between £220-240k p/w or £11-12m per annum.

    Yes, Tiote has been handed a new deal of £50k p/w, probably doubling his initial wage, so that can account for £25k p/w.

    Would still leave a deficit of around £200k p/w before our wage bill broke even!!

    If Mike came out and said “we still need to reduce the wage bill by £100k p/w, then we’ll be operating at a healthy profit of £5m per annum.” Then maybe I wouldn’t feel this indignation and would be happy with all those players leaving, therefore £25m being spent wisely in conjunction with reducing the wage bill.

    Look at Villas figures published today, reeks of us pre-relegation. 88% of their revenue is gobbled up by their wage bill, nearly £80m of their £90m turnover! Resulting in losses of £37m, now that I don’t want.

    We’ll just have to wait and see how our finances stack up.

  • GeordieGerman

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #30

    All very confusing. What happened to the good old days of players finishing their shift on a Saturday, turning up for a game and being given a shilling after the game? Those where the days.

  • davybtoon

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #31

    id like to see colo get a new 5 year deal id like to see him finish his career here think he has been class this season n he cud play till he is 34 easily at this level

  • Stuart

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:47 PM

    Comment #32

    I agree davy, would love to see him finish his career with us though, hes reportedly on £80k a week though so he’d probably have to take a pay cut to stay.

  • davybtoon

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #33

    yea he would prob hav to but the good thing with colo, barton n nolan is there gettin to an age now were there really gonna get offered more than we can offer them, like colo 80k aweek i would leave him on that for another season n then offer him 60k aweek to see out his career with us

  • coolcatcarter89

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #34

    Colo’s silky style of defending, his anticipation and the fact he’s durable, seldom injured, means he could easily sustain his super level of performance ’til he’s 34. Hope he does, love watching him play.

  • Stuart

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #35

    Aye, good call that like davy.

    How long does Colo have left on his contract like?

  • geoff777

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #36

    He’s not going to spend it on transfer fees.

    A large part of the AC fee will go towards paying back Ashley part of the money which the club owes him.

    Paying back debt to Ashley would be seen as investing the money in the club?

    Keegan is usually right.
    Expectations of the fans are constantly being manipulated in a downwards direction.

    If UEFA level the playing field, reduce club debt and make teams wheel & deal within budgets.
    Where does our turnover/profit in relation to other clubs put us in the money league?
    Top 3-5?
    Because that’s the line that you measure our performance against.

  • davybtoon

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #37

    that shud of said there not gonna get much more than we can offer them, now aknow ppl are guessing the wage limit is at around 50/60k aweek well the longer we stay in the league n the more we improve on the field then the wage limit can steadily rise

  • davybtoon

    Mar 1, 2011 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #38

    stuart- colo has 2 years left after this season

  • GeordieGerman

    Mar 1, 2011 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #39

    The only problem I see with the wage ceiling is that other clubs don’t see it as the way forward. I hope that all changes with the fair play rule. If it does we will be at an advantage and that’s fair with me.

  • Stuart

    Mar 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #40

    I’m sure it will change with the fair play rule GG, I mean, look at what coolcatcarter posted earlier about Villa, 88% of revenue eaten up by wage bills.

    If clubs can only sign players from the revenue they bring in from next season onwards, the lower the wage bill the better. However it still needs to be high enough to provide competitive wages to players.


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