Either Tim Krul Or Fraser Forster To Leave Newcastle This Summer

Alan Pardew has said that either  Fraser Forster or Tim Krul is likely to leave Newcastle over the summer – and we have to assume he means permanently.

Fraser Forster – does this lad have a future at Newcastle?

Newcastle had been linked in January with being after Coventry goalkeeper, Keiren Westwood, and we wondered why that was the case.

But the Newcastle manager has said today that he will not be bringing a new goalkeeper to the club in the summer.

And it will be a fight out for the two top positions between current number one, Steve Harper and 22 year-old top young goalkeepers Fraser Forster and Tim Krul.

Fraser has been impressive this season as the Celtic number one, and he also had a great time last season at Norwich City, where he was one of their best players.

The man who is ranked number three in the summer will be allowed to leave Newcastle,  either on loan or permanently if a decent enough offer is received.

Pardew told the Sunday Sun today:

“In the summer I do not intend to bring a keeper in – our three goalkeepers will be on an even keel probably, with Harps just having the edge because of what he has done this season.”

“Tim and Fraser have to come here in pre-season and be challenging.”  “One will have to go out and one needs to threaten Harps or take his position – that is what the club is about.”

“We cannot keep them both at the club, we don’t want to.”

But whichever youngster stays on Tyneside – we assume Steve Harper will not end up as the number three – may have to be content with being number two goalkeeper for a while, because we knew Alan rated Steve Harper before he even became manager at Newcastle last December.

Steve turns 36 tomorrow, but after being number two behind Shay Given for  far too long, he now has 188 senior appearances for the Magpies and will want to add to that tally.

Steve has at least three good seasons left at Newcastle, because he’s a player who has taken good care of himself over the years, and shows no signs of his skills declining in any way.

And Alan Pardew thinks he’s worth a few points to Newcastle each season when he added today:

“Harps deserved to win us a point against Everton.”  “If Leon Best’s goal had stood I would have said Harps would have won us that point.”“He is the kind of goalkeeper who can save you eight to 10 points a season. That is how good he is.”

“I think sometimes you get a young goalkeeper who can reach right to that top corner and touch it over the crossbar and maybe make a save Harps cannot.

“However, 90%, of a goalkeeper’s work is about being in the right positions, cutting out balls, kicking consistently.” “He comes, makes the right decisions on crosses and shots which should be saved by the keeper he saves.”

The betting would probably be on Fraser Forster leaving and potentially joining Glasgow Celtic permanently in the summer.

But it seems that Alan Pardew still has an open mind, and he will be keen to see just how good the Hexham-born goalkeeper has become this season at Celtic.

It will be interesting watching some of the pre-season games to see how both Tim and Fraser perform, because we didn’t really get a chance to see Fraser last pre-season, since he was injured.

For the record 6’2″ Tim Krul has 63 first class appearances including 28 at Newcastle, and 6’7″ Fraser has 83 first class appearances but still has to play for the Newcastle first team in a competitive game.

Comments welcome.

28 comments so far

  • Edd Case

    Mar 13, 2011 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #1

    I’d love to see Big Fraze in our team, local lad and deserves a shot.

    Krul is a brilliant shot-stopper but needs to work on a few other bits to his game.

    Send him out on loan somewhere, Harps and Fraze for next season.

  • Lee Dodd

    Mar 13, 2011 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #2

    I would Give Frazer a Chance Next Season and send Tim Krul Out On Loan For a Season then When Harper Retires we have 2 Quality Goal Keepers But I wouldn’t sell either of them at the moment . Look at the Crap we were in when Steve Harper Got The Shoulder Injury Earlier in The Season. Just Loan em Out and Get There Wages Paid !!!!!!!!!! We Need a Quality Proper Centre Forward !!!!!!!!!

  • AndyE93

    Mar 13, 2011 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #3

    It’ll be interesting to see how FF does if he was to come back and play for us. I’ve watched him a few times and he isn’t very commanding given his height and he tends to punch instead of catching the majority of the time. Would need to be imrpove his all round play if he was to stake a claim for keeper spot but like Krul is a v good shot stopper.

  • bills-son

    Mar 13, 2011 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #4

    I wasn’t impressed with Krul when Harps was out.

    He only made one outstanding save that I can think of which was away to Arsenal. He conceded too many goals that a really good keeper would have saved – including Harps.

  • spitfire_

    Mar 13, 2011 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #5

    Krul OUT!

  • Sav

    Mar 13, 2011 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #6

    Can Big Fraser play up front?

    Another loan spell would be the fans’ choice. Not fully convinced by Tim in games this season but I haven’t seen much of Forster either. But no doubting he’s been an immense success wherever he has gone.
    I’d be afraid (but not surprised) the fact Ashley will probably get more for him because of his exposure at Norwich and Celtic may sway the decision.

  • ToonDownSouth

    Mar 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #7

    “and we have to assume he means permanently”

    I dont think it sounds like that at all Ed :/

  • GeordieGerman

    Mar 13, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #8

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  • Jammydodger

    Mar 13, 2011 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #9

    I feel FF has more potential in the long term, He’s English and local as well.
    Keepers are now taught to punch rather than catch as its the safer option just to ensure the ball is cleared, only with experience and maturity will dominance of the box come, bar maybe joe hart all keepers dont reach that level till mid 20s earliest. would be daft to sell him(ff) only to watch him forfil his potential elsewhere FF on loan again probs celtic, keep him on our books, but if one must be sold Krul needs to go

  • Jammydodger

    Mar 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #10

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  • G

    Mar 13, 2011 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #11

    Agree with Ed Case at post 1. For the record though, I don’t want any of our keepers to leave. SH is my number 1, TK is good but needs to improve in places, FF looks like he could be better than both, however, as he is young he has plenty of time for this. If Celtic want him on loan next season, I say do it, but please dont sell.

  • GeordieGerman

    Mar 13, 2011 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #12

    FF is going to be a future number 1. Keep him and send Krul out. On loan if possible if not sell.

  • GeordieGerman

    Mar 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #13

    FF is going to be a future number 1. I meant England number 1.

  • supermacnumber9

    Mar 13, 2011 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #14

    our priority must be a top striker!
    but we keep hearing about bargain midfielders and now goalies – I suspect the answer is that as a club we are not trying to build a top team but rather a stable of good players with potential who can be developed as squad members with an eye on selling for a big profit!
    I do not think an established player will be bought simply to fill a first team weakness (such as CF) – so if a successful team emerges it will be a bonus not a policy objective.

  • Spotlight Kid

    Mar 13, 2011 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #15

    Got to agree with the emerging consensus here.

    I don’t rate Krull either and Harps is not going to last forever. Big FF is a far more experienced player now and on what I have seen would have NO hesitation making him No1 next season and keeping Harps as No2 just to keep FF on his toes.

    Krull is shaping up like a third rate Given, and our goals against record with him between the sticks is evidence enough. I think he thinks he’s better than he really is so never seems to see the need to improve. I can’t see any progress.

  • Vinicinhos

    Mar 13, 2011 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #16

    Stay Frazer.He’s so far better than Krul.

    If Frazer stays here, he can be our first golkeeper.

    Krul on loan or permanently and Soderberg as the third golkeeper.

  • Jammydodger

    Mar 13, 2011 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #17

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  • The Power Ranger

    Mar 13, 2011 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #18

    Keep them both, send Krul out on loan next season, play Forster with Harper on bench. See if Forster is as good if not better than Krul and then make the desicion on who to sell permanently.

  • GeordieGerman

    Mar 13, 2011 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #19

    Jammydodger. 31 in the charts? Should have been a No. 1. LOL

  • AndyE93

    Mar 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #20

    Whichever one doesn’t get kept here next season i feel that they should be loaned out to top clubs outside of the EPL i.e Celtic or Rangers as it allows them to play in a ‘goldfish bowl’ which is exactly what it will be like playing for us. It also allows them to play in Europe and gain invaluable experience from that.

  • Toonarmy1993

    Mar 13, 2011 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #21

    why did you presume that means permanently? ‘one will have to go out’ is not ‘one will have to leave’ – to be honest i view this as one will go out on loan and i think it will be krul, to give forster a chance to challenge for the number 1 spot – whether forster will want to do that after 2 seasons of regular football will remain to be seen. Ed, no need to create rumours that one keeper is going to leave permanently, otherwise you will be turning into the sun! p.s didnt you just make an article the other day about how krul 100% doesnt want to leave??

  • max

    Mar 13, 2011 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #22

    i agree wit lee dodd


    Mar 13, 2011 at 7:20 PM

    Comment #23

    Tim Krul is our best keeper

    Steve Harper is a steady Keeper who will never really pull of the spectacular and save a match rarely will that happen.

    Krul Is also a steady Keeper who WILL pull of the spectacular when you would not expect a keeper to get it

    Frazer Foster command s his area Corners and crosses and set pieces..not so quick getting down. He’s a commanding Keeper though

    IN my opinion we should Keep all 3 keepers
    and Although he’s a great guy and a steady keeper if anyone should have to leave it should be Harper.

    Harper has already admitted on a radio interview that crosses are scary . I heard him say that … no Vampire jokes please.

  • solano

    Mar 13, 2011 at 10:01 PM

    Comment #24

    Amazing how so many here are willing to back a guy who has never donned the No1 jersey for Newcastle……..believe me, Krul is the business and people shouldn’t back against him just because he is not a “local” lad……..he’s been here quite a while and loves the club and has actually done the business in the stickswhen the pressure was on…..West Brom? Palermo anyone? loadsa talent…a bit to learn….but will be worth a fortune
    FF…big, imposing, totally unproven at top level…..not pretendy Championship level…not one big game every other month as in Jockland…..+ by all accounts he can’t wait to leave us for the lure of a “big club”…..
    Krul everytime for me……..+ as a selling club, we may be to get decent fee for FF after his impact at Celtic, without, for once, depleting the squad……

  • NUFCmagpie

    Mar 14, 2011 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #25

    Hope FF comes in for Krul, I was not impressed with him while Harper was out. He couldnt take command of the 6, let alone 18, yard box. CoUld use the experience Fraser has had on loan.

  • Brutooon

    Mar 14, 2011 at 1:40 AM

    Comment #26

    Next season Krul to move on loan and Forster to compete with Harper

  • Davies

    Mar 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #27

    Honestly, I don’t care which of these three is our number one next season. They’re all outstanding ‘keepers.

    Krul needs to work on his distribution, and get a grip of the back four, but those are skills far easier learned than the ones he already has.

    Really don’t mind who goes out next season, as long as it’s only on loan.

  • woodsie08

    Mar 14, 2011 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #28

    @Davies… totally agree, in an ideal situation, keep the 3, and one goes on loan.

    and I agree with @ Brutoon… if I had to pick one to go on loan it would be Krul… FF has got a full season of first team exp, so give Krul that chance now.

    And imo Fraser prob has the better chance to take No.1 from Harps.

    If it comes to selling one of them, and only if one had to go… Id sell Krul. Both very similar imo. But Krul cannot kick for his life. Worst kick from a keeper i;ve seen in a while… I held my breath for every backpass when he started those consecutive games.

    Also, FF is English and a bit younger (I think?), and is therefore worth a lot more. Further, I think he has more potential than Krul


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