42 Points May Be Needed For Safety This Season


The most points any team has accumulated in the English Premier League and still been relegated is 42, when West Ham, managed by Glenn Roeder were relegated back in 2003.

Steve Harper – in action at Tottenham

West Ham were still 2 points behind 4th bottom Bolton, and were relegated with Sunderland, who were bottom on 19 points and West Brom with 26.

That was a strange season indeed, but the third bottom side this season co0uld also be close to 42 points, with West Ham currently 3rd bottom on 31 points with 9 games still to play.

When Glenn Roeder was Newcastle manager for a short time from February 2006 through May, 2007, he never tired of telling his players of that fact, and it’s something we should all keep in mind this season.

Steve Harper, who is 36 today,  has talked about that this morning:

“It has happened in the past that teams have gone down with 40 points, even 42,”

“Glenn Roeder used to tell us every day he took a team down with 42 points at West Ham. So that may well be the case again this season.”

“There remains a lot of work to be done and we are expecting nothing but a tough game at Stoke, which is always a difficult place to go,”

“After that, we’ve got home games against Wolves, Birmingham and West Brom who are all currently in the bottom five, and they’re going to be big games.”

“We’ve also got Manchester United at home and they’re chasing for the title.”

Stoke had a good 2-1 win yesterday at home against West Ham in the quarter-finals of the FA Cup, and now meet Bolton in the semi-finals at Wembley.

It will be a difficult game for Newcastle next Saturday, and indeed Sol Campbell may get a start to help Newcastle deal with the aerial bombardment and the long throw-ins from Rory Delap.

Newcastle have 9 games remaining this season, and are on 36 points,  so we still need 6 points to be really safe, and we are looking for at least a point at the Britannia Stadium next Saturday.

The lads return to training today after having some time off following last Wednesday’s training session, and injury doubts still include both Joey Barton and Jose Enrique, with Stephen Ireland already surprisingly being ruled out for that game.

The very least thing we want to see this Saturday is a second defeat on the trot, so at least a draw, and we’ll be OK.

Comments welcome.



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9 comments so far

  • Indian Magpie

    Mar 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #1

    If we finished the season with 36 points we will get relegated. i think 42 would be only just about gud enuf.

    So if we finished with 42 points we would end up in aywhere between 15th – 17th.

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  • daneevz

    Mar 14, 2011 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #2

    not lookin forward to sat with a depleated squad it might well be 2 losses on the bounce coz stoke no mugs at home

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  • shear-class

    Mar 14, 2011 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #3

    42 points will just be enough as long as our goal difference doesnt enter freefall, i would take 3 points out of the next 2 games preferably not getting beat off wolves @ home

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  • daneevz

    Mar 14, 2011 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #4

    i hear this bryan luiz name alot from twente as a possible target for the toon??

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  • roy cropper

    Mar 14, 2011 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #5

    we have 9 games remaining & if we can repeat our prev 9 then we’ll get another 11 points giving us a total of 47 – safety!!

    the trouble is our – paper thin sqaud – is riddled with injuries & to make matters worse – talk in the north east is rife about joey barton having a huge fallout with the manager ?

    i hope it’s not true but pardew does have a bit of history in that department.

    fasten your seat belts – it’s gonna be a bumpy ride over the next couple of months.

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  • shpetmeister

    Mar 14, 2011 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #6

    Ed: i dont think really the newcastle team should worry so much about the throw in,and the corners against Stoke. Yes they should know what the expect, but against Stoke its really just about do your thing, play your game. And in this match Newcastle will Dominate the midfield, so its really about putting the chanses behind goal, and it will be a easy match. Yes they wiill get throw ins, i dont think the players will panic because of that and start putting Cambell in, and colo out!

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  • Sav

    Mar 14, 2011 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #7

    Ed you just said Roeder took a team down with 42 points. So we need another 7, not 6, to beat that surely?

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  • shpetmeister

    Mar 14, 2011 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #8

    Newcastlw wont go down stop worrying unnecesery.

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  • Bao Zheng

    Mar 15, 2011 at 1:49 AM

    Comment #9

    Bottom teams are on slightly better than a point a game so yes 42 sounds about right. Getting kicked out of the game by Stoke and Wolves also sounds about right. We may do a Boycott and get the last six in singles.

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