Two Different Views On Enrique Leaving Newcastle

We don’t know if it’s true that Jose Enrique is joining Liverpool in the summer, but it’s looking like it.

Jose Enrique – two views of him leaving – positive and negative

That’s after Phil Thompson, who is a good friend of Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish, said over the weekend that it was his understanding it was already a done deal at £15M.

First of all,  £15M seems a very high fee to pay, but maybe the new American owners of Liverpool are willing to pay top dollar (or should that be top pound) for the players they want.

If Enrique does leave there will be two schools of thought on Tyneside – one positive and one negative.

Here they are – starting with the positive one – of course!

  • £15M is a great deal for Enrique, given he’s got only one year left on his contract – take the money
  • Newcastle can get a suitable replacement in for a lot less money, and there’s always young Shane Ferguson coming through
  • Jose is very good but he’s not the leader that Kevin Nolan or Joey Barton are at Newcastle, so he will not be missed too much
  • If Jose wants to leave so be it – we don’t want players at Newcastle who don’t want to be at the club
  • Mike Ashley is running the club well financially, and getting some bargain buys in -and just watch what happens this summer
  • £50M for Carroll and Enrique is not too bad at all and excellent business

OK – and here’s the negative take on selling Jose:

  • We’ll never build a good side if we keep selling our very best players
  • Newcastle have now become a selling side, just like they used to be when we sold Geordie Paul Gascoigne to Spurs in 1988 when he was just 21 – very much like Geordie Andy Carroll’s sale in January when he had just turned 22
  • We’ve become a selling club and have now lost two of our very best players – where’s the ambition in that?
  • Newcastle will never build a good side with Mike Ashley owning the club, because he will keep selling the very best players – money is just too important to him and every player has his price
  • The top clubs never sell their best players – they’re not that daft – they’re too ambitious – unlike Newcastle

Our view is that £15M is an awful lot of money for a player who could leave for nothing in about 15 months time – and we don’t even believe the fee will be that high – but we suppose that’s what Phil Thompson said it was over t- he weekend – and if that’s really true,  take the money.

But we are very worried about losing Joey Barton this summer, and any more of the current good players on Tyneside, like Cheick Tiote.

But by September, Newcastle fans should know what the lay of the land looks like at the Newcastle club.

We have to hope it looks good,  and much better than it does right now.

What do you think about Jose possibly leaving Newcastle?

Comments always welcome.

71 comments so far

  • mattnufc

    Apr 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #1

    I’m sure he will leave. But it’s whether we spend the money wisely, or if we spend it at all. This summer is so important 😮

  • bobby shinton number 9

    Apr 12, 2011 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #2

    It angers me that players want to leave and we just seem to accept it as one of those things!
    Barton recently said he was waiting to see whether Nolan and Jose were staying before he makes his decision.
    He’s the best left back we’ve had for decades and we can’t hold onto him? Why?
    Who’s next?
    And, yes we may have young Ferguson coming through but how good is he? His preferred position is a winger.
    We see these young kids getting their chance and look great initially but then get found out after a few appearances. Ferguson is not a regular for no reason. It’s because the backroom staff and manager see his weaknesses during training and don’t think he’s ready yet.
    It’s correct to say that we will never be a big club if we continue to sell our best assets.

  • estechco

    Apr 12, 2011 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #3

    Given that this interview was on Norwegian TV and it is the commentator that brings up the 15mill, perhaps he didn’t mean in pounds sterling?

    Euro’s I could live with (£13.5m?), Norwegian Kroners might be a problem, however (£1.5m?)

  • GeordieMeerkat

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #4

    Jose is an important member of the team. When he, Colo and Jonas are in the team next to nothing gets through our lefthand side.

    It would mean yet more new relationships having to be struck up on top of a new strike partnership. It’s been years since we’ve had a good settled defence and we should be looking to reinforce it, not make a gaping hole and surround it with flashing neon lights.

    Pardew (and Llambias and Ashley if they can be bothered) should sit down with Jose and show him their plans for the club so he signs a long term contract and gives us another couple of years to get into Europe. If we don’t we can help him move to a bigger club where he can still have at least 5 top quality years and finish in style.

  • lesh

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #5

    Ed, is there not a possibility that we’re alll falling into the trap of thinking that the £15m is the transfer fee?

    We’ve heard the figure £8.5m bouncing about and that could be the deal he’s struck for his wages?

    I’m inclined to think that the deal, if indeed there is one, has been struck between Jose and LFC. That being so, I draw paralles with the last player transfer to Liverpool when MA hung them out to dry!

    If that is the way events turn out, I’d like to think we’ve got a qualty LB in place before close of the window!!!

    But, the point is, if they have been talking to Jose without the blessing of Newcastle United, then isn’t that tapping up and if so, that’s naughty… or is it?

    Whatever happens, will happen and we’re the mere spectators,

  • John

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #6

    To be honest he is very over rated he cost us alot of games in the past and made the back four very shakey at times the fulham at cravan cottage this season old man duff left him for dead and got the goal to win 1-0 let him go. buy back bassong play him at left back he was brill der and he can also play at CB if fergi keeps progressing that gives us more opts.

  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #7

    Lets get things in to perspective we are no longer a top club (we are a big club) if we can get £15m for Enrique let him go, as long as Pardew is given the £50m to spend on top players and we keep Barton, Carroll, Jonas & Collo then we will end up with a stronger team. We need to have a bigger squad & if that means selling 2 of our better players to bring in 5 or 6 good players I see nothing wrong with that. I’m old enough to remember Alan Suddick (god rest his soul) who Joe Harvey sold for £60k in the early 60’s (a lot of money then) when we looked like we could get relegated. He then bought three players that kept us up and 3 years later we won the Fairs Cup

  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #8

    Meant Nolan not Carroll.

  • Ciaran Thomas

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #9

    Joey Barton a leader ? Far from it I believe,Joey Barton struggles without Kevin Nolan. But that is my Opinion.

  • jettson

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #10

    Why should any fan commit to a season ticket by end of April, when there is no guarantee who will be there or who be bought!!

    Too big a gamble for me, after 21 years, i want to see a statement of intent, selling your best young players and not re-investing (minimum 7 top player reqd) is a sure sign of few season ticket renewals!

    If, and big if players bought in then buy a ticket at end of August, im not shelling out £500+ with MA’s history of lies and deceipt!

  • nden85

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #11

    A: we’re not a “top” club, we’ve only just been promoted and we’re not in europe
    B: we ARE in massive debt
    C: Enrique had only one year left
    D: Examples of top clubs selling best players; Man U & Ronaldo, Arsenal & Anelka & Vieria & Overmars & others, Liverpool & Torres, Juventus & Zidane, Barcelona & Figo, AC milan and kaka.

    Why do we think we are the only club to have sold our best players? I’d be worried if out best players were getting pillaged for peanuts like what was going to happen with charlie adam during january, but we’re getting absolute top buck for our players, more than they are worth!

  • The-Ciaran8

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #12

    Got to go for Leighton Bains. No Doubt. Would probably prefer him anyway, Bunch of Judas’s.

  • HamarMagpie

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #13

    I’m sorry John, but I think you are on very thin ice calling Enrique overrated. He has improved every season. For me he is perhaps the best left back in the prem, and I find it very pussling that he is not considered for their national side. Has to do with us not being a big enough or exposed club?

    I think he would be a terrible loss, and I swap him for Barton any day of the week. I’m also very concerned about the future. I have absolutely no confidence in Ashley spending the money he recieves from transfers. He would probably make up for the losses he made when paying off some of the clubs debts. Fari enough if he could be honest about it. But as far as I’m concerned he is a fat lying coward bastard.

  • alinufc95

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #14

    why are we sellin all our best players, giv him a contract now for 3 years, plus nolan and barton, bring in a striker and defenders for next season and challenge for europw hwtl

    MIke Ashley – Legend
    Alan Pardew – Legend
    We need to support them
    Im goin to the match on tuesday and supporting the club and the owners

  • JohnnyBrookes

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #15

    Nah i think letting him go is a massive mistake. He is part of a core group, and you will see a lot follow him if he goes.

    Noone wants to play for a club with no ambition. I think it is an absolute joke that noone form the lub has come out to say its not true. It is a literal farce.

  • Excaltar

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #16

    Tbh this story has been dragging on for months, i think we all know he’s gonna go.

    If i was playing under the current regime I would probably be looking elsewhere.. Ashley has shown he has zero ambition as yet.. Liverpool have shown they mean business so you cant blame the lad!

    Doesnt make it easier like

  • Toonmania

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #17

    i hate being negative, but lets hope we dont get the well we tried to get a left back but the one’s that are out there don’t want to come , i also think we will lose guttierez in the summer as his best mate seems to be leaving, barton is still not signed up and they are trying to rush a deal through for nolan (before he wants out too!!)
    i have a funny feeling we wouldn’t be having this conversation if Chis Hughton was still manager i also believe that carroll was happy UNTIL steven taylor signed a new contract

  • MonsterMagnet

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #18

    On transfer funds:
    Does anyone trust Pardew with £50m? – so far we have Kuqi and Ireland in under him. It would be one of the biggest kitties in the club’s history and we ought to spend it wisely.

    We will be ripped off left right and centre. Everyone knows we’ve sold £50m of talent.

    Will we even get the money from Jose to spend? I doubt it.

    Is a £35m transfer kitty even fair? I don’t think so. This implies Ashley was going to give us £0 in the summer. Even without Enrique going we ought to have £45m to spend, unless Ashley was planning on packing the club with Bosmans in the summer.

    IMO, this summer we will spend £15-20m with the club saying people are trying to rip us off and that we couldn’t spend the money because of: a) inflated fees; b) players don’t want to come here – we’re not in Europe etc.

    I would love to see us bring in 7 or 8 Chieck Tiotes, but I just can’t see it happening.

  • HalePeter

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #19

    alinufc95 –

    ALAN PARDEW A LEGEND !! To save you looking up what that word means I have pasted it here for you.

    an extremely famous or notorious person, esp. in a particular

    You make me laugh with that comment !!

  • Thump

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #20

    Here we go again.

    Players come and players go. If their heart isn’t in the club then what’s the use in keeping them around? We’ve seen too many players collect massive wages from the bench or from the physio room for too many years now. Yes, I love Enrique and think he is the best left back we’ve had in years but if he wants to go then so be it. We’ll soon find out when we’re mathematically safe and he (potentially) signs a new deal.

    If Thompson is right, then this is something the FA need to look into. The deal may very well have been done outside of the transfer window which would be bad news for all parties – we’ll both have a transfer embargo slapped on us and I’m sure you all agree that a transfer embargo would probably relegate us.

  • HalePeter

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #21

    an extremely famous or notorious person, esp. in a particular field.

    Not sure why field didn’t show up above

  • MonsterMagnet

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #22

    Totally agree JohnnyBrookes – same old Ashley, same old rubbish PR. The silence tells me that they have done the deal and they’re too afraid to come out about it. They daren’t come out with another ‘Andy Carroll will not be leaving this football club’ type statement because they know, and we all know, they’ll accept any half decent offer.

  • jwheelie12

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #23

    I can understand if he moved to a big club like Real, Barca, a top 6 club here, or even AC/Inter?

    But Liverpool? Honestly if Enrique goes to them I will not just hate him, I will absolutely despise him.

    I will view him in the same light as Carroll, – I hope he gets ran over by a bus.

    All we can do is accept the bid (of £15 million) and match their contract offer (providing it isn’t insane like Carroll’s), and let Enrique choose whether he wants to be loyal or not.

  • traceline

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #24

    Enrique owes nufc nothing – a great servant to the club last season – if he wants to leave to go to a smaller club then so be it – no accounting for taste.

    Ashley’s putting the club on firm footings ready for the financial fair play rules – we’ll be stronger for it.

    lets face it – in the grand scheme of things, with what’s gone previously, this isn’t something to get het up about

  • Thump

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #25

    Is a £35m transfer kitty even fair? I don’t think so. This implies Ashley was going to give us £0 in the summer.

    Are you serious? He wants the club to be self reliant – something that will be a necessity come the financial fair play rules. If I was the owner and was planning on putting £20m into the club, then we get £35m for a player, you’re bloody right I’d say “Yep, there you go.” and keep my money. Maybe I’d throw a couple million in for the sake of rounding it off (maybe round it up to £50m, who knows?).

  • jwheelie12

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #26

    and what is this nonsense people saying the transfer is illegal? Transfer embargo lol?

    Clubs are free to negotiate at any time in the year and can even announce signings at any time in the year.

    They just have to wait until the transfer window opens to join up with their new club.

    It would only be illegal if they’ve been speaking to Enrique without our permission.

  • Thump

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #27

    @jwheelie12: There’s a huge difference between “it’s looking like he’s willing to leave Newcastle” and “it’s a done deal”.

    You can not sign pre-contracts with players for English clubs, and that appears to be what is being said. (Please not I said “might be something the FA…”.)

  • Mat Nufc

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #28

    If the price is right and the player doesn’t have the heart to play with NUFC anymore, then let him go. Complete the deal fast so that we have time during the transfer window to buy replacement. Don’t do it last minute until it forced us for panic buy, similar to what had happened in the January transfer window (we offered crazy prizes for some players but of course it didn’t go through).

    I am not sure Jose is the best left back in the premiership, though he is the best left back tha NUFC have for quite some time. I rate Leighton Baines more than i rate Jose. He is also fast and does scores goals from set pieces, something that the whole of NUFC is lacking (hopefully Ben Arfa is good at it). If we sell Jose, we should pay top money to get him as Everton needs the money themself.

  • jwheelie12

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #29

    @Thump, sorry but you are completely wrong, this is not a pre-contract agreement, this is a transfer and as long as the clubs have agreed a fee (or Newcastle give permission to Liverpool), then Liverpool are free to talk to him and offer him a contract. Enrique can then sign a contract and complete the transfer which will then go through on the first day of the next transfer window.

    Just like if we wanted to sign Stephen Ireland now.

    Completely legal, please back me up people.

  • Darling27

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #30

    I say sell him then pray to god we have 50 million to spend in the summer.

    The club should be in the black after staying up this season and that’s not including the fee from the Carroll and potential Enrique sale.

    The worrying thing is Ashley will give us no money to spend and start taking money the club owes him.

    Pardew will then be told to sell players to make transfer funds.

  • Darling27

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #31

    If Pardew gets the green light we need about 6 players.

    Players In

    1 x Left Back
    1 x Right Back
    1 x Left Winger
    1 x Right Winger
    2 x Striker

  • coolcatcarter89

    Apr 12, 2011 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #32

    jwheelie12 – That’s correct. With a fee agreed between the clubs, permission granted to negotiate with the player, a transfer can be signed, sealed, but not delivered, until the window opens.

    Even AP has said, once we’re safe, we can start getting a few deals rolling ourselves, it’s perfectly legal.

    On Jose, he’s as good as gone, in my eyes. Yes, I enjoyed watching him maraud down the left, but he’s moving, amicably, from my point of view.

    This summer is an awkward one. A part of me says, we NEED to keep Joey, Colo etc. Another part of me says, we need to shake off the last remaining, lingering memories of relegation, start a fresh, have a major overhaul. I think a lot of our guys are mentally fatigued, and it would be good for everyone.

  • daneevz

    Apr 12, 2011 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #33

    looking back at the comments u guys said i agree with a few 1. being from JOHN i agree J.Enrique is slightly overated he has cost us some goals/points this season by trying fancy stuff in our box. CIARAN THOMAS said something i agree with Barton performs when Nolan does but saying that the team doesnt really click inless barton,tiote,nolan,colo and poss ameobi dont play. Enrique will leave dunno bout 15m but we need to get a leftbk in position now eg.Wendt,Taiwo,Baines. also i see M.Bougherra has said he wants to leave ibrox id risk him coming in coz or defence is shakey always has been since the likes of Albert and Peacock and they didnt fill me with confiedence at times.

  • ochytoon

    Apr 12, 2011 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #34

    We would also need some squad players in. I say about three or four cheap ones from relagated teams or championship

  • toonturtle

    Apr 12, 2011 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #35

    If he wants to go let him, especially if the sum is £15 million, as he’s not worth that at all.

  • terencelim

    Apr 12, 2011 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #36

    The best left back in the prem is Ashley Cole, the second is Jose Enrique Sanchez.

    Anyone who says Jose is overrated seriously need a proper eye check.

  • Brutooon

    Apr 12, 2011 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #37

    If we want to sell him, accept bids and offer from team OUTSIDE Premierleague!

    It will hurt us when Carroll score from Enrique cross!

  • terencelim

    Apr 12, 2011 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #38

    If Jose Enrique doesn’t worth 15 millions, then Steven Taylor should probably valued at 3 millions.

  • kenzie

    Apr 12, 2011 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #39

    Not to liverpool please!. Dalglish seems adamant on taking all of our best players after wrecking our team in the 90s. Cant stand the thought of him going there. Would love to keep him though.

  • lewman

    Apr 12, 2011 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #40

    i take it you have never seen evra play terencelim.


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