Newcastle In Difficult Position Over Jose Enrique


I have to think that both Liverpool and Newcastle are furious with former Liverpool great Phil Thompson.

Jose Enrique – on his bike?

Phil played for Liverpool from 1971 until he left for Sheffield United in 1984, and he later served as assistant manager to Gerard Houllier at the Liverpool club.

Phil is currently a pundit on Soccer Saturday on Sky Sports and is a regular Visiting Fellow at the University of Liverpool where he teaches on their Football Industries MBA, and of course he will be in the know on what’s happening behind the scenes.

So when he came out over the weekend and said it was his understanding that Newcastle and Liverpool had agreed a deal for Enrique for a high £15M, he put both clubs in a rather difficult situation.

Newcastle will hardly want to announce that Jose was on his way this summer – for at least a couple of reasons.

It would not go down well with Newcastle fans, who are still questioning why their local super star Andy Carroll was sold to Liverpool in January.

And it wouldn’t help Jose or the fans when he plays either, because it’s not clear what the fan reaction would be to Jose leaving Newcastle, after he had often said he only wanted to play for Newcastle – much like Andy had said – some to think of it.

Any brave Newcastle fans who watched Carroll on Monday night blast the Manchester City defense, would probably agree if Andy had been in the Newcastle side last Sunday at Villa Park, Newcastle would have won that game, and maybe easily too.

But we think that even if Andy had stayed at Newcastle this season, there would have been another huge offer for him this summer, maybe even more than the £35M, and Newcastle would have again been tempted big time to sell.

We’d all be just a little bit happier if Newcastle were safe this season from relegation, but that’s not the case.

So we very much doubt that Newcastle or Liverpool will be announcing anything about the Jose Enrique transfer any time soon, and maybe both clubs have already let it be known to Thompson that they didn’t appreciate his revelation last weekend.

But there again, that’s what Thompson gets paid for as a pundit – but Liverpool may not be as open with him in the future on their transfer deals.

Comments always welcome.



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37 comments so far

  • DarloGeordie

    Apr 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #1

    To be honest im sick of losing our star players it just seems like cashley is trying to recuperate his losses from when we were sadly relegated…

    The thing is selling our best players for large sums of money is a quick fix to turn our finances around, however keeping our best players and striving for success is a much better option. Yes, it may take longer but surely the financial rewards are greater from success in competitions and this just isn’t going to happen if we keep selling.

    In other words we are not going to achieve anything in terms of football rewards while the slug is owner, maybe financial rewards are what all these Cashley a$$ kissers on here want and not trophies.

    Personally I want to see European football back at St James’s (not Sports Direct.com at St James’s Park) rather than a healthy bank budget.

    Howay Jose sign with us not the Scouse!!

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  • MarkO

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #2

    15 Million is a good deal for us i know Enrique has been good but hes not worth 15 million.

    People get annoyed at us loosing our players but wait until the summer because will we be stronger than we are now by far even without Enrique. Is Enrique better than Taiwo ? Personally i don’t think so

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  • beefman13

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #3

    What thompson said over the weekend was said matteroffactly, like it was nothing , he has stirred up a hornets nest, lsten jose must of accepted the fact that HE wants to leave and if a deal was done it was done maybe 6/8 weeks ago and if that is the case he has decided to go for the money he must of been offered a contract extension and not accepted it, so he if it is the case that he is going then so be it, we are being run as a business and we have to accept that everyone has there price and in theory we could get a total of 50 million for players we maybe would of got 2 and 1 million in jose and carroll only 18 month ago! in football now weather we like it or not business is business, we have to replace these kids and it is up to our scouting network to unearth more of the carrolls tiote`s fergusons and taverniers vucic etc who could all turn out to be big players for us. ps i hope jose stays and i still believe he might for a while at least as the s..t mongouring by mr thompson may be just that.

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  • toonturtle

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #4

    You have to take the money as its stupid money for a player with a year left on his contract. They just need to ensure they have a quality player lined up to replace him.

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  • oldbobaycliffe

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #5

    we have always sold our best players super mac andy cole now carroll and enrique no wonder we havent won a domestic comp in over 50yrs.yet in the last england squad ther were 3 ex nufc players.we never learn

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  • nimo

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #6

    I would say Enrique and taiwo are probably at around the same level and 15 mil for a left back – possibly too good to refuse now ferguson looks like good cover- what I don’t want is it to upset collo and guti and cause the greatteam spirit to faulter, may also take taiwo a while to settle in the prem

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #7

    PLEASE NO MORE ABOUT CARROLL HE’S GONE NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT HE MIGHT HAVE DONE IF HE’D BEEN HERE

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  • Toony Montana

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #8

    This was posted 1 hour ago on Twitter:

    CaulkinTheTimes George Caulkin
    RT @OliverKayTimes: One other thing before I go to bed. Told no #LFC deal with #NUFC for Jose Enrique yet. Other clubs interested. Night

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  • Rangerman

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #9

    The choice is simple, he either signs a new contract or he gets sold.

    It would be stupid to let him see out his contract in the hope he might change his mind.

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  • toonfan09

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #10

    as i said on another article george caulkin of the times has been told no deal done for enrique but there are clubs interested

    toonturtle it maybe stupid money but thenif u keep acceptin stupid money for ur best players ur not gonna have any left the reason the top clubs r the top clubs is because they sell there best players once they have had the best out of them next u will say u r happy we get 25 mill for tiote cos its stupid money

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  • Rangerman

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #11

    I’m annoyed that Enrique hasn’t come out so far to deny the claims.

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  • toonturtle

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #12

    Its stupid money for a player that has 1 year left on his contract. If he does not sign a new one, he can leave for free next year. That was my point.

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  • toonincheek

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #13

    No way will we get £15 million for Jose.
    That’s just the rags bumping up the price to make a headline. £15 million if you include wages, ie the total value of the deal.
    Maybe £8 million cash to us.

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  • qtoon

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #15

    Few players could be up for grabs in the summer with their teams all currently in danger of relegation:

    Pablo Piatti (Almeria) – Left Winger we were linked with in Jan

    Royston Drenthe (Hercules) – Left Winger/Left Back

    Simon Kjaer (Wolfsburg) – CB Looked good in the world cup playing for Denmark, but will prob end up at one of the big European clubs

    Diego (Wolfsburg) – Brazilian Attacking Midfielder, ex Juve

    Serge Aurier & Raphael Varane (Lens) – French Right Back & Centre Back, both linked with Man U a while back

    Another lad I’d love to see in a Newcastle shirt is Miralem Pjanic. Huge prospect who plays for Lyon in France, Bosnian international attacking midfielder. He’s been warming the bench in Lyon this season since they signed Yoann Gourcuff… Maybe its time to move on? We can all dream, eh 😉

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  • LoonyToonyMagPieMan

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #16

    Off topic
    would any of you like Didier Drogba at Newcastle

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  • GeordieJordy

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #17

    If we get sell another of our best players then we risk loosing our whole squad, We already know Barton hasn’t signed his extension because of the Andy Carroll deal and to loose Enrique aswell will certainly result in loosing Barton and possibly Collocini, Guitierrez and no matter how much i praise Nolan, he will be LOVING what is happening with Liverpool and will porbably be on his way there very soon.

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  • ColdSnap

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #18

    ‘Fom what I hear’ why is everyone certain what he heard was even true?

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  • nimo

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #19

    the thing is if enrique doesnt want to be here theres no option but to sell…. we cant offer anything other than premiership football we dont have mega bucks to spend to catch up to the top 6 so in the next 5 yeaR be prepared to lose more key players as they look to further there careers. jose owes us nothing and if its what he wants nothing can be done.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #20

    GeordieJordy, Barton must know that we are the best club that would be willing to have him. He’s one of the most hated players in the country, and no top 6 club would touch him regardless of talent.

    And as for Nolan to Liverpool, why would they want him? He’s a fantastic captain for us, but again he wouldn’t get into the team of any of the top 6. In fact, if Barton stays and we sign Ireland, I wonder how he will fit into ours with Benny and Cheik as well.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #22

    I’d actually say the same applies to a lot of our players. Jonas and Collo again, I feel that they are at the same level as our club. Neither are world class by any stretch of the imagination.

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  • derekm

    Apr 13, 2011 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #23

    For some reason Thompson has always had an “agenda” with NUFC – I don’t know why but it may well be due to the fall out with keegan and to a lesser extent Lawrenson. When he covers toon games on SKY there is always little or no praise towards us, only the opposition! That said, if there is £15 mill on the table bite their arms off – Jose STILL overplays outside his own box and between him and Guittierez at Villa they lost possession many times. Collocini has eliminated this fault from his game and looked twice the player. Personally whereas last year our two down the left flank could murder teams this year the opponents are not only stronger but much wiser – you can’t dribble past three premier players like you could in the championship, one of them will get the ball!

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  • djm...

    Apr 13, 2011 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #24

    Collocini has played at the top level for both Ac Milan and deportivo, jonas played in the world cup… Not world class? It doesn’t get much bigger than that.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Apr 13, 2011 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #25

    He only played at the world cup because Maradona loves him. He hasn’t got near a squad since. I think they’re both brilliant dont get me wrong, I just don’t see offers for them flying in from Champions League teams. Maybe from Europe, but players know how prestigous the prem is..

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  • gorskino10

    Apr 13, 2011 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #26

    Its bad losing what most called him the “Best” defender in the championship last season, it has taken years but he now has Pace,Power and works hard for the team and has a awesome cross.

    £15 Million for Ashley is too big not to accept he is a Wheeler Dealer type guy thinking “WOW 15 Million ok Scouts/Pardew we need to find a guy for 5 Mill so i can pocket the rest!”

    If this happens we will buy Van Aarnholt, i LOVE his style very similar to teammates Ashley Cole, bombs foward and is decent with pace and crossing, in a few years he could become a massive player for us and is young and cheap-ish.

    But selling you best players means your not gunna go for Europe your just content in staying in this league.
    Wonder if he has agreed a move and this is all happening behind Pardews back, i bet Pardew would take it too even if he is selling players behind he back he would accept him doing that.

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  • cupiddstunt

    Apr 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #27

    DarloGeordie I take it you have not heard the old saying “you can’t see the wood for the trees”?

    Because it applies directly to you post,,, when you start with a club that puts you £150 mil+ in the hole please tell me where the financial rewards are????????????

    The financial success you speak of comes from the club being successful and at this moment in time weather you like it or not we are far from being a successful club, we are three points from safety and safety was our target at the start of this campaign, so with the next three points we will have achieved our second target the fist was getting back into the prem.

    Step three is to strengthen and climb the table when we do that players will be less inclined to accept leaving us for another club, and other players will be more and more interested to join us as we will be seen as a club going up.

    As for this statement of yours,

    “Personally I want to see European football back at St James’s rather than a healthy bank budget.”

    It is exactly this attitude that put us in the hole,,,, it had us buying players with cash we never had we bought owen on the drip and were paying his transfer fee with the N Rock sponsorship money from the next several years.

    We were still paying off his purchase long after he went to manure.

    It is just this type of sh*t thinking and typing that gives the toon fans a bad name.

    £15 mil for Jose I say brill take it and get two quality replacement lb’s with the cash that’s the position covered let Fergie play up the wing.

    Yep gorskino10 a guy who is worth a billion is going to go WOW over 15mil you’re another that has problems seeing the wood.

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  • Sav

    Apr 13, 2011 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #28

    So its a done deal then?

    “But we think that even if Andy had stayed at Newcastle this season, there would have been another huge offer for him this summer, maybe even more than the £35M, and Newcastle would have again been tempted big time to sell.”
    I like that one, Ed. Are you saying it was just as well we sold him when we did even though it screwed up the rest of our season and the shockwaves are still reverberating around the changing room at NUFC? Because we’d have only been tempted to accept an even bigger offer in the summer?
    Right.
    Isn’t that exactly the point people have been making? We should have told Carroll to bide his time until the summer and leave on good terms after a decent finish. But no, Ca$hley had to grab the money and display his total lack of care and ambition – due diligence my arse.

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  • Sav

    Apr 13, 2011 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #29

    Its not that difficult a position.
    They could try telling the truth for novelty value. ie. ‘We’ve accepted a good offer of 15 milllion for Jose who wants Champions League football next season which we can’t offer him. He will continue to give his best in our remaining games and we hope you will continue to support him’.

    Or sign Jose to an extended contract.
    Instead, they shove Pardew out in the spotlight to use up further any credibility with the fans, media and the squad. Shouldn’t it be Llambias making the press statement after Pards was left looking like a fool following Carroll’s sale? Pity I didn’t witness the streaking incident just to check if he’s got any nuts.

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  • tiotal football

    Apr 13, 2011 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #30

    Carroll would not have been worth more than £35 million in the summer. Liverpool had to buy a striker fast and so Ashley was able to inflate his price. They would have just gone elsewhere for a striker or not sold Torres.

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  • chuck

    Apr 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #31

    First, Thompsons an idiot !
    Second, why would he say it`s a done deal ?
    Has there in fact been a deal made that no one (but idiot Thompson) was supposed to disclose ?
    Sure Pardew has stated there`s no deal and we want to give Enrique an extension.
    He was also emphatic about Carroll not being for sale.
    Has Pardew been left in the dark also and is being thrown under a bus ?
    Does such a thing as a PR department exist at this club ?
    If I were Pardew i would would`nt say sh*t even if I had a mouthfull, why take the fall for these jerks.
    It`s hard to figure out whats going on at this club and makes one wonder “is there a plan” ? or is everything day by day reaction to whatever circumstance the club finds itself in ?

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Apr 13, 2011 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #32

    Cupiddstunt

    You are a bit nasty to Darlogeordie there .

    Why Don’t you stick to your own opinion and let other people have theirs…without slagging them off ?.

    Believe me it’s more constructive writing that way.

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Apr 13, 2011 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #33

    Pardew said last week

    “We will sit down with Jose and his brother when Jose knows we are safe, and discuss a new contract”.

    “We Will Sit down and talk about his new contract in the summer”

    S O…If what Phil Thompson says is true, that its a done deal for Jose a few months back (Jan?)

    Then Pardew has actually sat down and told Newcastle United fans a pack of Lies !

    This of course would come from Llambias via Ashley

    Lie to the fans again…keep them quite .

    NO respect for us

    If it’s already a done deal with Liverpool then we are being lied to again…..No respect .

    A Disgrace.

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  • Nolan96

    Apr 13, 2011 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #34

    Look £15 million for a player that has 1 year left is excellent money but it would be a gutter if he left :'(

    No more passes like this :'(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN_qX_OeZ18

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  • dez

    Apr 13, 2011 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #35

    I think if Enrique does go it will be to a Spanish Team

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Apr 13, 2011 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #36

    So give Jose a good contract to keep him .

    If Ashley had ambition for a top team on the Park then Jose would be kept

    But Ashley just sees a way to make profit from what will continue to be as long as he is here..

    ..Mediocrity

    And I thought A Football club was all about the team on the pitch, get that right and everything else follows .

    Can anyone see that we are going nowhere ?

    Anyone out there ?…. Nowhere.

    We might as well be saying ..Here s one of our best players Liverpool , You move forward and we will go backwards ..

    Same old Same old .

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  • DarloGeordie

    Apr 13, 2011 at 10:17 PM

    Comment #37

    cupiddstunt,

    I just have to laugh at you really i can picture you sat there red faced with steam coming out your ears…

    chill the f*ck out you’ll give yourself a heart attack

    I wasn’t suggesting going back to the dark ages where we pay players hundreds of thousand a week when they are past it am just suggesting the question why sell our best players when we finally have a core of players that can actually build a successful team.

    as the above post states “same old same old”

    now go smoke a joint, punch a wall, have a w@nk or whatever you do to let off steam and chill out yeah. Prick

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