Pardew Buoyed By Positive Transfer Discussions With Ashley

It seems that Mike Ashley came to Newcastle on Thursday and manager Alan Pardew had a meeting with him on transfers.

Mike Ashley – yes OK we’ll give you £20M for him

Alan Pardew seems to have owner Mike Ashley fully involved with the transfer business this summer, and of course it will be Ashley’s final decision as to which players come to Newcastle, although Alan Pardew will have put together a sizable list of targets.

This is what Pardew said about the meeting:

‘Mike came and we talked about certain players and values and the strategy and how the summer scouting is going to progress.

“Chief scout Graham Carr, me, secretary Lee Charnley, Derek and Mike, we had a good meeting and I thought it went well.” “I felt buoyed by the meeting. As a Premier League manager, I was quite satisfied.” “Now it’s about recruitment and making sure the squad’s stronger.”

“It’s quite obvious at this time we can’t compete with the likes of Liverpool Tottenham and the top four.”   “We could attract a squad here I know would keep us safe in this division but that’s not what Mike wants and it’s not what I want.”

“We want to try and excel. We have to try and take a few chances with players that will keep us in the division but who might take us on to that next level.”

“That of course becomes fraught with difficulties. He wants to push as high as we can but he knows we can’t compete with the top clubs in terms of the players that they can afford and the money they’re talking about.”

“We’re going to be realistic in our aims, but we’re going to aim high within the realism of our situation.”

From what we can tell there’s a significant amount of work already gone into the scouting and transfer planning this year, with most of the scouting being done in France and Germany.

But once the final game of the season is over tomorrow, all thoughts and attention will move to the transfer market and Newcastle recruiting  players, although we don’t know if Newcastle will be making any early announcements on that front.

But from what Alan says above, both the manager and owner seem to be on the same page, and with any luck Newcatsle should have a much stronger squad next season, and then we’ll see where that takes us.

But there’s no doubt at all that this summer could be one of the most exciting transfer windows at Newcastle for some time.

Howay The Lads!!

Comments welcome.

47 comments so far

  • Brutooon

    May 21, 2011 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #1

    Heard at the papers that Jose Enrique is a target for Man Utd.

    He is THAT GOOD !!!

  • Toonmania

    May 21, 2011 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #2

    rahter see him goto manure than the binmen at least he be in a half decent team

  • Benton Toon Exile

    May 21, 2011 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #3

    If past windows are anything to go by we will see 2 or 3 out for maybe £15-20m and 2 or 3 in for £5 – £10m and the usual crap about balancing the books and how Mike Ashley has saved us all from eternal damnation………..

    But I am a Geordie, so live in hope!

  • daneevz

    May 21, 2011 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #4

    If Pards can get us these Top Class players i will fully support the man and hope he’s here for sometime!! COME ON PARDS!!! bring us some class to add to what we got !!!

  • Benton Toon Exile

    May 21, 2011 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #5

    I’d rather see Enrique go abroad, not help the competition in the prem.
    I might get shot down for this but I thought N’Zogbia was a better left back that Enrique and I haven’t seen anything to change my mind.

  • The Entertainers

    May 21, 2011 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #6

    Sounds very positive, at the very least our manager is accepting the boards vision of what makes a transfer target, unlike Keegan.
    Again the age limit, which we all believe to ‘be’ around 26, has been confirmed so I guess all the paper talk of players like Defoe are wide of the mark.
    As always we brace ourselves in optimistic anticipation, Whilst knowing we’ve had our dreams shattered before.

  • geoff777

    May 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #7

    Don’t we have a better attendances than Tottenham & Liverpool?

    The only difference I see is the amount of cash that their owners put into the club …

    They have better owners, managers and ambition.

  • arfa chance

    May 21, 2011 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #8

    If evra has signed a new contract and they have the da silva twins why Wud they want Jose

  • Benton Toon Exile

    May 21, 2011 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #9

    We have:
    Top four fans, Top 10 team, Championship club!

  • Robby Bobson

    May 21, 2011 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #10

    Its clear how ashley operates….he looks at every deal ans whether its a good deal. I just hope hes not deciding if the player us good enough, only the price and age.

    I dont think he would ever say to a manager you’ve got 25million to spent…off you go.

    Still undecided whether its a good thing. Stops big money flopa i suppose

  • bills-son

    May 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #11

    Benton Toon Exile – If past windows are anything to go by we will see 2 or 3 out for maybe £15-20m and 2 or 3 in for £5 – £10m and the usual crap about balancing the books and how Mike Ashley has saved us all from eternal damnation………..

    Sorry pal – but your the one talking crap.

    Apart from after we got relegated there has been no selling 2/3 out for £15M-£20M and 2/3 in for £5M – utter b%ll%x. We didn’t have time to spend the £35M we got for Carroll.

    As for balancing the books – you can’t run a football club, a night club, any bloody type of club or your own personal finances if they don’t ‘balance’ or better still make a profit. You go BANKRUPT if you don’t pal – and Ashley DID save us from that. We could have been another Portsmouth instead of where Ashley has now put us – one of the most financially stable clubs in the Premier, perhaps even in Europe.

    Ashley now wants to dramatically improve the squad and get into Europe asap.

    I’ve been taking flak on here for months supporting Ashley but I say again – I believe he is one of the best owners (and may well turn out to be THE best owner) this club has ever had.

  • Jezza

    May 21, 2011 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #12

    “But there’s no doubt at all that this summer could be one of the most exciting transfer windows at Newcastle for some time.”

    Just remember those words at the end of July when Enrique, Barton, Tiote and Nolan have all been sold, the only new signings are Paul Konchesky (as part of the Enrique deal) and a still injured Stephen Ireland on loan for another six months, Ameobi (now in the number 9 shirt) and Lovenkrands have been leading the attack in the pre season games, Pardew is insisting that the club “will not be held to ransom” and urging us to be patient, with assurances that Graham Carr is scouring Europe for new talent, and constantly reminding us that the soon to be fit again (ahem) Ben Arfa and Gosling will be the equivalent of two new signings.

  • wynsleap

    May 21, 2011 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #13

    Billson – I think you’ll find that in all the time he has been here Ashley has made a lot more money in outgoing transfers than he has spent in incoming transfers.
    That’s not balancing the books – that’s a distinct lack of ambition.

  • toon_tomma

    May 21, 2011 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #14

    Newcastle Utd Transfers:

    Cheikh MBengue
    Bassong or Mathias Jorgensen ( Bassong been told he can go and he publicly said that leaving Newcastle was a huge mistake)
    Ireland: If can get his wages.

    They will get two Forwards at least in question is who though. Plus you got to think Ben Arfa and Gosling are really new signings like Pardew said.

    Transfers Out:

    Enrique: Iv sat here over recent weeks and thinking he might stay but look at this way he said would talk when were safe been safe few weeks now and still like pardew said cant get him to the table, he knowns what he is doing but he loves Newcastle but he just doesnt no how to say it that he wants to leave.

    Forster- Even though a hope he stay a really good young keeper.

    I cant see to many leaving a think he will hold onto Guthrie Smith ect.

  • JP...from The Rock

    May 21, 2011 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #15

    toon_tomma – That’s exactly what I think will happen but I hope it’s even better than that. It all depends on what 2 strikers we bring in and if our key player Nolan, Barton, Colo and Guti stay.

    I think Enrique is just waiting for an offer from a club in the champions league and he’ll e off. Honestly I would like to see him stay but 15 – 20M would be brilliant business if we could start a bidding war.

    I see the same outgoings as you Toon_Tomma and our squad improving this summer, the question is by how much?

  • ddmacker

    May 21, 2011 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #16

    I’m sorry but all this talk about N’gobbia and Bassong coming back is frightening. These people deserted us in our hour of need and now that they see that we have the best TEAM SPIRIT in the EPL they say “they want to come back and they were ever so happy here”. Are we that blind that we can’t know a rat when we see one. I don’t care if he scores 100 goals to me he will,in fact they both will always be RATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Burni

    May 21, 2011 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #17

    Bills son ur completely right…… Ashley HAS made mistakes we all know that but he has learned from them after all he was flogged a dead horse off of the previous owners! I understand why a lot of fans are bitter towards him But I agree mate he probe is gonna be one of the best owners for nufc in a loooonnng time! It’s a shame people cannot see past the end of their noses or live in the past!
    Wynsleap does make a valid point with what seems like a lack of ambition coz it does feel like that but the difference is that Ashley is no longer willing to pay out of the arse for someone who is crap! Would any one else? No! U learn from ur mistakes and u move on! If Ashley was as bad as people say would we have tiote? No. Ben arfa? No. He is taking the club forward step by step not just blindly hoyin money aal ower!

  • Solaidback

    May 21, 2011 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #18

    geoff777 // May 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM – what complete rubbish, the SPurts & Cessepool do have smaller attendance that us but they charge a lot more for tickets & sell there players for higher prices, like we’re starting to do, so that why they’re able to buy better playerrs, if you look at the Spurts accounts, you’ll see that Joe Lewis hasn’t forked any funds out to the team in years….

    bills-son // May 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM – bang on fella….

    wynsleap // May 21, 2011 at 11:32 AM – if you actually look at our clubs accounts, you’d see that Ashley spent nearly £60m on players since his arrival & taken £104m from sale of players, but if you take off the £35m for Carroll which will probably be spent this summer, the difference is only around £9m… so to say he’s pocketing any profit from the club is an absolute joke!!!

  • wynsleap

    May 21, 2011 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #19

    Solaidback – and if you don’t include the £35mill for Carroll he will have taken £44mill.
    As that money has yet to be spent (don’t hold your breath) and considering that Enrique may bring in another £10mill. are you suggesting it will ALL (£45) be spent on new players or will that £9mill figure grow even larger season by season (which, in my opinion, isn’t showing season by season ambition)?
    By the way, I’ve never ever said on these blogs that Ashley “pockets the profit” but I HAVE said if he takes it to pay off his debt I can’t wait until it’s all been repaid then he can disappear back from where he came.
    Burni – I agree – the days of buying the likes of Owen, Boumsong, Luque etc at enormous fees should be over, and I do agree with The Controller on that issue. However, spending SOME money each transfer season to improve the team is par for the course for a club owner – well at least most good club owners.

  • wynsleap

    May 21, 2011 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #20

    Sorry should have said £45 mill..

  • Solaidback

    May 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #21

    So you think that we won’t spend any of the 35m receieved for Carroll, not a penny?? Gonna be a bad summer then eh!!

    As for paying off his debts, he’s not taken any monies to pay off his debt according to the latest accounts, the only debts being paid off are those of the clubs, which is what is supposed to happen is it not??

    The debt of £111m which is owed to Ashley is still outstanding & will be until he sells the club, he’s not taking any money out of the club to pay off this debt but has pumped into the club 10’s of millions to keep us afloat over the last 3 years!!

  • Toon_Ksk

    May 21, 2011 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #22

    You will not see the club splashing the full £35 million from Carroll’s transfer. Please be reminded that the amount may be paid in installments and part of it may have been pocketed by Carroll’s agent.

    Anyway, the wages of future signings will be deducted from the transfer budget. Please do not keep your hopes too high and think that we have a budget in excess of £25 million pounds.

    Finally, have faith in the scouting team. They have done tremendously well after Dennis Wise left. Many of the signings (with exception to Perch) has been wise. Considering the transfer budget that they have to work on, it has been a great success so far. No big names but hardworking, committed players.

    May the good work continues.

  • wynsleap

    May 21, 2011 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #23

    If he sells Enrique for £10 mill. for example, and if your figures are right, he will have brought in £114 mill.
    If, and its a big if, he spends ALL of the £35 mill. from Carroll on new players (wouldn’t that be something!), again according to your figures, he’ll have spent £95mill. and still be up £19 mill. on transfers.
    Can you honestly see that figure going down each window especially when other stars will be subsequently sold? It takes a large amount of optimism that I’m afraid I don’t have.

  • Jezza

    May 21, 2011 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #24

    Solaidback // May 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM

    “So you think that we won’t spend any of the 35m receieved for Carroll, not a penny?? Gonna be a bad summer then eh!!”

    Yes, I personally do not believe that Newcastle will spend a single penny of that £35 million in the summer. That money will never be seen again. The way I see it, it’s just a question of what percentage of the Enrique/Barton/Tiote/Nolan money Pardew gets to spend. And yes, it is going to be a bad summer. Anyone who thinks Newcastle are going to be spending £25 million or so is setting themselves up for a colossal disappointment.

  • Solaidback

    May 21, 2011 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #25

    Jezza – we all already know you talk complete rubbish & I can’t wait until after the summer when we’ve spent loads on players & still have Barton/Tiote/Nolan in our squad on extended deals…

    wynsleap – If we sell Jose this summer, I expect us to spend more in the window, if that includes wages & agents fee’s, as was said by Pardew, then so be it but until you can sjpw me official paperwork ie club accounts, stating Ashley has taken money out of the club for his own use & not to pay off club debts (not to him) I’ll stand by the fact that we’re better off with him as owner!!!

  • solano

    May 21, 2011 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #26

    Utter piffle from bills-son and pals….MA has managed to upset just about everyone who has positivelycontributed to this club over the last 20 years, -managers, former players and club staff -he has no record of investment in the playing side of things and is intent on profit first and last……the rescue from imminent bankruptcy is a total myth and was only propounded after MA took over to cover his arse because he didn’t look at the books and do his homework….the possibility of financial meltdown would have been rife in banking and big business circles prior to a takeover and MA wouldn’t have touched us….
    The last 4 years have been successful only in limiting fans’ ambitions to annual survival and mediocrity and creating an obsession among fans for healthy balance sheets…..I want my club to start competing in the big time again by winning more football matches and start punching our weight commensurate to the fantastic support they receive (that’s top5, by the way) one can tell me Tottenham are a bigger or better club, but by God, they have ambition….I don’t see any chance of that with MA and his cronies in charge…..I judge things by actions and deeds…..and it’s a history of contempt for the fans and the city…..those willing to back this bas**rd through thin and thin need to wake up, look beyond the thin veneer of quality we have (and are willing to sell) and look how paper thin this squad really is… me the MA apologists are blind at best but at worst – are traitors to the black and white cause…..

  • smithy434

    May 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #27

    Yet I bet some supporters still contue to sing get out our club to ashley, why?

  • solano

    May 21, 2011 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #28

    A fair point smithy…wearing their new strips and 10yr season tickets in their pockets…..

  • Angryman the Angry fan

    May 21, 2011 at 6:19 PM

    Comment #29

    Solano! The best post on here for months n months!

    You fat b*stard get out of our club!!!

  • Angryman the Angry fan

    May 21, 2011 at 6:21 PM

    Comment #30

    Bills-son and solaidback are obviously basing their great summer in the transfer market on past history!!


    How exciting!

  • Robby Bobson

    May 21, 2011 at 6:49 PM

    Comment #31

    Its rocket science how ashley operates….getting 35 million in is going to mean theres more cashto buy pplayers and if the deal is right he’ll do it.

    Never has a manager under ashley said hes been given a budget.

    If the club is profitable and making money then he’ll spend some.

    People seem to forget ashley has wiped debts with interest and not taken any money out. The last regime created 100s millioms if debt, didnt put any of their own money in and took 10s ofmillions out a year in dividends.

    Ashleys a pillock who has make so god awful decisions but jesus look at the facts

  • Robby Bobson

    May 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM

    Comment #32

    Its not rockey science i mean…and when i said hasnt got a transfer budget i mean a set figure

  • solano

    May 21, 2011 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #33

    How do you know he will spend the money, Bobby? According to what we are told from this private company we are NOT profitable and so won’t spend it!

  • solano

    May 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM

    Comment #34

    And without expenditure and investment it will be an annual relegation struggle…..2nd season syndrome and all that…..

  • Robby Bobson

    May 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #35

    Well if we were 35million down this year then we probably wont, cus he wont pay for transfers himself abf wont put the club in debt

    But surely after a year in the prem we wont need the money from carroll foe wages etc….


    May 21, 2011 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #36

    Solano, a brilliant post my friend. Still you will get stick from the Ashley lovers as our club would have gone into administration had this guy not been so kind and helped us out!!! Thankfully you can see through all of the shit we are told.

  • solano

    May 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #37

    And that is why we are hamstrung forever with a tightarse billionaire….and he is the best owner we have ever had according to some in this thread!! They want to take a look at Tottenham 2 years ago and Liverpool 6 months ago and see what can be achieved by showing some intent to improve the team in the transfer windows….


    May 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #38

    Just wake up guys, We will never see Mike Ashley spend 35 M. The best we can see is Carlton Cole to replay Carroll for 6-8 Million and couple of free agents and unproven quality players like Tiote

  • Jezza

    May 21, 2011 at 7:56 PM

    Comment #39

    Solaidback // May 21, 2011 at 5:42 PM

    “Jezza – we all already know you talk complete rubbish & I can’t wait until after the summer when we’ve spent loads on players & still have Barton/Tiote/Nolan in our squad on extended deals… ”

    OK then, let’s arrange to come back on this blog at midnight on 31st August and see who’s been talking rubbish. If you really believe what you’ve said, I’m afraid you’re setting yourself up for a very long frustrating and hugely disappointing summer.

  • AndyMac

    May 21, 2011 at 8:07 PM

    Comment #40

    The point about building a team is that you generally try to hold on to those that you already have and add to them.

    Fatman’s strategy appears to revolve around getting rid of anyone who doesnt want to work within his wage limits but then bring in fewer players to replace them. So a paper thin squad at the end of this season will be a gossamer like one next 🙂

    We’ll end up with a squad of fourteen in three years time and four of those will be goalkeepers 🙂

    Feck off Fatman you’re not wanted here !!!


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