Pardew Knew Barton Contract Would Be Big Problem


Alan Pardew has come out today and talked about the latest situation with Joey Barton.

Joey Barton – now new contract at Newcastle

We keep getting big shocks from owner Mike Ashley, and there was another one a couple of days ago when Joey’s agent Willie McKay said Newcastle had recently told him the club would not be offering Barton a new deal.

We suppose the two year deal he turned down in January is still on the table, it’s just that they will not be improving that offer – but it’s very unlikely that Barton will now do a U turn on that now.

Alan Pardew is trying to be the bridge between the Newcastle hierarchy and the Newcatsle fans and players, but the water between the two seems to be widening, if anything, and that bridge is getting wider.

This is what Alan said today about Joey’s situation:

“I spoke to Joey on the last day of the season and I think we were both resigned to the fact that this contract was going to be a problem,”

“But both of us are thinking that next year we’ll be together and we’ll go on from there.” “I’ve been open and up front with Joey all along. I knew this was all going to be an issue at some point, but we decided the best way was probably to wait for the season to end.”

“But you’d have to say that Joey pulled all the way through this season and I know he’ll pull again next year, even if he’s in his last 12 months. I know he will.”

“Unless something changes over the summer, and there’s a bid in that the board, myself and Joey feel works for Joey, I’m confident he will be here for the start of the season. And the thing about contracts is, times change.”

“I’m not upset about the situation,” “I was more upset at the time when we thought we’d agreed in January and there was a change of heart. I was upset at that point because I knew it would be a problem to come back from that.”

“There was a lot of history between Joey and the board here before I arrived. I knew that, on top of it, might make it difficult. I just wanted to be honest with Joey and match him with clarity. That’s what I’ve done.”

We know that Pardew and Barton have a very good relationship and Joey thinks Alan is an excellent coach and a good guy.

And we must say we are starting to like Alan Pardew, and it seems he couldn’t be more straight about Joey.

But of course he does not have the last say on transfers, and it’s up to Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias to make those decisions.

It was embarrassing for Alan when they decided to sell Andy Carroll in January, after Alan had said he was not going to be sold, and that under-mined Alan’s position at the club.

And it was that Carroll transfer that stopped Joey dead in his tracks, on signing anew deal at Newcastle, as he questioned Newcastle’s ambition.

It seems to us that Joey just doesn’t get along with the Newcastle hierarchy,  and there seems little chance that a new deal will be forthcoming for the Liverpudlian.

Our bet would be that when a suitable bid comes in over the summer,  Newcastle will want to accept it, but whether Joey will dig his heels in to stay on Tyneside will be interesting.

We think he may do just that – and stay until next summer –  but that still doesn’t make it a good situation to be in.

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44 comments so far

  • roshan MAGPIE

    May 27, 2011 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #1

    there was a rumour in tribal FOOTBALL that NUFC will sell barton for measly 1m£

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  • Drona

    May 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #2

    didn’t pardew say that the negotiations are going well just a couple of weeks back? what a lying twat

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  • Brutooon

    May 27, 2011 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #3

    Give him a new 4 years contract but must include as follows

    1) Offer him 30-50k per week MAXIMUM. Trust me, no other club would want to sign him.

    2) Put in his clause that if involve in discipline problem outside or inside the pitch (in jail etc) then TERMINATE his contract immediately

    3) Put in his clause that if he open his mouth (i.e saying he is the best midfield in England etc) then TERMINATE his contract

    4)

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  • nolan4

    May 27, 2011 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #4

    Well Joey has had a lot of off-field issues and had 1 gud season 4 us if Villa want Barton we shud ask for cash plus stephen Ireland. Hope Kevin Gameiro arrives on tyneside.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDKZgRM-0JA

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  • Stuart

    May 27, 2011 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #5

    I think Barton needs to tell his agent to shut up and sign a new contract.

    He owes this club alot. We stuck by him when he was in prison, Barton even refused to take a pay cut while he was there and we went along with it.

    We also waited around while he was injured for 2 years.

    He’s only been an important player to us for the past two seasons and he needs to realise he owes us another 3 for standing by him.

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 27, 2011 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #6

    the comment that worries me is,

    “There was a lot of history between Joey and the board here before I arrived”

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  • geoff777

    May 27, 2011 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #7

    I can see him running down his contract just to screw Ashley out of any transfer fee.

    Ashley’s yet again put his manager in a very awkward position.

    Pardew may be “manager” of a top four club with top ten ambitions on paper, but in reality he’s Ashley’s PR man full-time and a part-time coach.

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  • SirAlan

    May 27, 2011 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #8

    And we must say we are starting to like Alan Pardew, and it seems he couldn’t be more straight about Joey <<<Ed who is the " WE " you are talking about, do you have a mouse in the top pocket ? Pardew is Ashleys mouth piece we knew this when he was brought in and Nothing has changed!!!!!!

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  • PHOENIXNIGHTS

    May 27, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #9

    A last minute bid will come in (either this window or during January) and off he will go -without a ready replacement coming in(Just like Carroll) That is guaranteed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Stuart

    May 27, 2011 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #10

    Have to say I quite like AP like SirAlan.

    Like everyone else I was devastated when he took over but he’s done well as far as I’m concerned.

    Plus I would hardly call him Ashleys mouthpiece when MA keeps screwing him over eg ‘Carroll will not be sold’ then MA selling him. ‘Barton will sign a new deal’ then talks fall through.

    Or ‘The £35m will be made available this summer’… I suppose we’ll have to wait on that one though.

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  • Flood

    May 27, 2011 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #11

    hold on, why is everyone criticising Joey? and bringing up events from the past?

    brutoon, you make no sense. Due to the stupidity of sheperd and as i know it he is on 60k a week.. He’s had a brilliant season, my player of the season, and does deserve to be rewarded. It’s not his fault shepherd handed him that money.

    it is ashley in the wrong. but why as fans, have we been behind joey all year and as soon as there are problems, we bring up things from the past that we conviently forget about when we were raving about him.

    he is my player of the season, and if he stays next year, he’s going on the back of my top. I support ashley but he makes some stupid mistakes. He’s an idiot

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  • Stuart

    May 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #12

    Im not questioning the fact he’s been one of our players of the season Flood.

    But at the end of the day, running a club is a business, and for 2-3 years we paid Barton to either sit in a prison cell or on the treatment table.

    The man owes us big time.

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  • toonbelmonter

    May 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #13

    actually drona he hasnt 1ce sed talks were going well, hes maintained from the start that he wasnt gunna open contract talks till the end of the season, stop getting on his back ffs

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  • GeordieRob

    May 27, 2011 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #14

    I like most was disappointed that talks broke down. I was disappointed with Ashley and Lambias and I think McKay is an absolute twat. However, I do not believe that Newcastle should give him a 4 year extension under any circumstances. I think everyone, even the angry fans, need to look at the entire picture.

    Sure, this year he bossed the game that we won. Next year he’s likely to do the same but how long can that go on? He will be absolutely impossible to sell in 4-5 years time when his contract is up. No one would be willing to match wages for a 33 year old. He’s a risk of being another Alan Smith, someone that can’t get a game, is injured all the time and we can’t get rid of him. To be frank, if we haven’t bought or developed someone younger, classier and faster in 2 years, we’re in trouble. A 2 year extension… 3 seasons from now, is about as long as I can see Joey playing good football. As good as he is, I’d put money he won’t be playing like Ryan Giggs at 37 (Big brother contestants aside)…

    The other thing to remember is that this will be bad for Joey too. He’ll be trying to negotiate a new contract at a new club 4 months before he turns 30. I don’t think that will be easy or lucrative especially with his background.

    It’s sad but if he doesn’t agree to what’s on the table, he should go.

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  • the1willy

    May 27, 2011 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #15

    So Barton won’t be offered a new contract, and Nolan is ‘some way off’ accepting his. Perhaps the board were getting a bit scared of just how influential these players are behind the scenes. I mean, it seemed that when CH left, whether or not AP was going to be accepted and given a chance was almost entirely down to whether Barton and Nolan were to give him the OK or not.
    I’m not really sure about AP either way, but I do feel the poor guy is having to tread a very fine line and having to work hard to keep both sides (His employers and the players) happy. Of all the managers in the league, he’s the only one who seems to have less power than both his players and the board.

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  • Drona

    May 27, 2011 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #16

    i’m not getting on his back. i’m just saying that i thought he said that everything is going well. my bad there then

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  • toonincheek

    May 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #17

    AP IS MA’s mouthpiece – he has no choice but to accept it or walk away and let another manager come in.
    I reckon he’s doing the best he can in difficult circumstances, and has earned much respect for the way he’s handled everything on and off the pitch.

    As for JB, I reckon he will stay, even if another offer comes in.
    Maybe that could be partly to spite MA but the bottom line is – he’s happy here, he’ll be happy to stay another year and see what his options are at the end of his contract.

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  • oldbobaycliffe

    May 27, 2011 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #18

    indian magpie-of coarse there was a conflict with the board the club was having to pay him while he was in prison also a lot of fans had issues with barton for dragging the name of nufc through the mud but we have forgiven him perhaps he should have signed that contract in january.problem would have been solved

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  • Davies

    May 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #19

    Bit sick of this already. Sign up or move on. One good season does not make a successful association, and that’s what we’ve had from the player.

    I suspect it’s more to do with the agent than the player, but at this point, I really don’t care.

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  • Brutooon

    May 27, 2011 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #20

    Flood : i do agreed that barton is one of the player of the season, but his previous 2-3 season he spend more time in jail along with all other issues (and we still pay him 60k per week)

    He owe us a lot, he can repay us by taking a pay-cut.

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  • Flood

    May 27, 2011 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #21

    brutoon, yes he has been absent in the past 2 3 year wth injuries/prison, but be realistic. he’s not going to take a paycut nor would any other player.

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  • Stuart

    May 27, 2011 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #22

    Well he was prepared to take a pay cut in January Flood.

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  • Davies

    May 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #23

    What annoys me the most about this is the negative affect it could have on the rest of the squad. The Enrique fiasco hasn’t been any better either.

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  • Nufc_mo

    May 27, 2011 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #24

    Ive already sent St.Nick my christmas wish list… top of the list was a Newcastle 2011-2012 Kit with Joey Barton name on the back!

    At this rate im going to have to write a new letter..

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  • Nufc_mo

    May 27, 2011 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #25

    Enrique can leave for all i care… Ive finally accepted that he feels his future is elsewere… Ive shed my tears, thrown my tantrums and what not.

    Oh enrique.. if only u signed the bloody contract sooner!

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  • mick70

    May 27, 2011 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #26

    After watching the Gamerio video he won’t sign for us surely he’ll go to a top club which is ashame cos he looked fantastic but HBA played in a similar role should be just as good , i say go all out for Zog or what about Dyer? (not kieron lol)Swansea young un

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  • Brutooon

    May 27, 2011 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #27

    Flood : look at a deeper realistic view – from the point of Joey Barton

    1) He got 60k per week till summer of 2012. AFter that he is a free agent.

    2) When he is on free. There is no way the top 6 club want him, skill-wise YES but attitude-wise NO. (By the time he is already 30 yrs old)

    3) If he got a paycut with us on a 4 years deal then he at least got money incoming for the next 4 yrs.

    4) Plus to prove he want to repay NUFC fans faith at him – then accept that low wages and concentrate on his football

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  • Nufc_mo

    May 27, 2011 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #28

    I say, we invest the 35mill into a time machine and bring back Laurent Robert, Alan Shearer, Gary Speed, Olivier Bernard, Solano.

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  • LondonMagpie

    May 27, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #29

    @Nufc_mo

    Ill even chip in some change to make that happen

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  • gorskino10

    May 27, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #30

    Would be STUPID to sell him, our board are terrible letting players run to a year left, we have Jose Enrique (2nd best player last season) Barton (Best this year) Nolan (gets tones of goals we rely on from Midfield+Captain)
    Plus young players like Donaldson,Kazenga Lua Lua,Fergusson (who may sign longer)

    End of the day if we Lose the guy that made us tick this season in Joey and lose Jose Enrique this Summer will be a disastrous one.

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  • GoalsBringSmiles

    May 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #32

    This is another cleverly arranged PR stunt in which the unfortunate Pardew is less the mouthpeice, more the messenger. I don’t hold any malice towards Alan and I feel his ambition matches the fans and Joey Barton’s, but hands are tied, gags are in order. His comments on Barton will inevitably attract the interest of other clubs who will gladly pay Barton the going rate. I agree that comments on Barton’s past are idiotic given that the guy has served his time and since improved his attitude and as a result his game:

    Stuart, ‘the man owes us big time’

    Perhaps this is why ‘the man’ has expressed his frustration at the sale of Carroll, and the lack of ambition and the way in which this club is run; it is because he knows that the Newcastle fans deserve better, he knows that it is Mike ‘Nobodaddy’ Ashley who ‘owes us big time’. You claim Barton owes the fans, to me you therefore expect the player to commit the last years of his career to a club that is run like a cheap sweat shop Sports factory.

    Peer through the wool Newcastle fans and it is a dark picture. Joey may be forced out of this club because his ambition threatens the conservative ‘development plan’ in place at Newcastle United, a plan that will never reach fruition. Indeed, this is Ashley’s Garden, where the ripest cherries are picked and the Gooseberries shipped out. Frankly the ongoing rape of our club and the compliance of ‘loyal’ fans who maintain Ashley’s reign is leaving me with sour grapes, the sourest Grapes of Wrath. Together we stand and div…Nevermind.

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  • bills-son

    May 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #33

    GoalsBringSmiles – lack of ambition?

    Why? Because we sold Carroll? For £35M??

    Because Enrique won’t accept a contract probably better than the £45K a week he’s on now?

    Because we won’t give 29yr old slow coach Barton a 4 year deal?

    How about the opposite …

    We signed HBA for £5M even though he was injured.

    We’ve signed Tiote on a 6.5 year deal.

    Offered Nolan an extension.

    Made offers for Gameiro, Gervinho and N’Zogbia – total probably £25M.

    May have more transfers lined up even if we get all three above.

    Get real, we are not ManU, Chelsea Arsenal or Man City and we have no European football next season like Spurs or Liverpool. Some players will want to go ie., Enrique, some think they are worth more than they are ie., Barton.

    It’s part and part of football – but Ashley said he would spend the £35M and it looks like he’s doing his damn best to do just that.

    Lack of ambition? Load of b%ll%x.

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  • stuart no9

    May 27, 2011 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #34

    joey has played his last game for NUFC, GFB wont let a few quid slip through his fingers , he will sell him now , rather than him be a free agent next season another ashly ploy to get rid of one of our best players, How can anyone say he is past it ,at 28? years old , a mid fielder at 28 is just hitting his best years ffs , but what do this useless lot do ? sell him, this clueless bunch of cockneys ash , lamparse , alan partridge , need to f…k off back down the smoke and get someone in who can run NUFC PROPERLY!

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  • stuart no9

    May 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #35

    bills son you hit the nail bang on the head, you are 100% right , we are not man u , chelsea, arsenal , and yes we have no europe next year , and yes , we sell our england no 9 for £35 m and do you know why? coz these clubs are FULL OF AMBITION! WE SELL, WE HAVE NO EUROPE, WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU FFS . ALL THESE GREAT PLAYERS WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING IN, ? AS YET WE HAVE F….KING NOBODY, SO LETS WAIT UNTILL THE GREAT MAN GETS OFF HIS FAT, F,,,,KING AR,,SE , GETS HIS WALLET OUT AND F,,,KING BUYS SOME C””’T AMBITION????? YOU WOULD NT KNOW IT IF SMACKED YOU ON THE HEAD WITH A HAMMER , WITH AMBITION WROTE ALL OVER IT

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  • solano

    May 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #36

    This summer isn’t about making loads of offers Bills…we’ve heard all those excuses before….it’s about getting people through the door who are good enough to improve us……and the answers yes to your first 4 questions!

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  • solano

    May 27, 2011 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #37

    apostrophe omission …..answer’s

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  • GoalsBringSmiles

    May 27, 2011 at 6:35 PM

    Comment #38

    Your opposite, Bill’s Son, is based on tenuous claims and ambiguous eventualities.

    Ben Arfa looks promising but this is yet to be proven an astute piece of business until we benefit from pitch time from the Frenchman.

    We all know that Tiote’s 6 and a half year deal guarantees nothing but a bigger price tag should the Chelsea’s, Manchester’s or Liverpool’s swoop in; a convenient assurance for Ashley’s pocket perhaps.

    Nolan is yet to agree to the offered extension.

    There is absolutely no solid evidence of offers for Gameiro, Gervinho or N’Zogbia.

    Me get real Bill’s Son? You make me laugh, your ‘probablys’ and ‘may haves’ speak volumes pal, your own language is shrouded in doubt and fear. I recall Paul Simon’s lyrics, ‘A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest’.

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  • GoalsBringSmiles

    May 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM

    Comment #39

    and Solano, I agree, the answer is yes to all four of Bill’s questions.

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  • stuart no9

    May 27, 2011 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #40

    Alzo bills. Slow coach barton…………..since. when did he need speed? Does scholes run aroud 100 miles an hour. ? No. Does he need no. Does he control games? Wby? Experienced midfielddr

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