Only Sylvain Marveaux And Xisco Not Now Fully Fit


The Newcastle players have been back almost two weeks now, and after the game at Darlington tomorrow night,  they fly off to the US on Sunday to start their American tour.

Sylvain Marveaux – getting back to full fitness

Both Joey Barton and Nile Ranger have been refused Visas, so presumably they will now both join the Reserves,  on their tour of Holland,  while the first team is over here in America, although Joey will captain the side tomorrow night.

And Ben Arfa isn’t the only player to return in excellent shape and it seems the Newcastle manager says that with the exception of Sylvain Marveaux – who hasn’t played since last October and is still getting back his full fitness, and Spaniard Xisco, who Newcastle would just love to unload somewhere –  anywhere – the rest of the squad is now in fine shape.

This is what Alan said today:

“We’re delighted to be back and I’m excited about the new season,” “I want to get the new season underway, I’m looking forward to it. The players all look in good shape.”

“One or two of them are below the level of the rest but everyone else is above the level we would expect from them and we’re just gearing up for the new season now.”

“Generally, everyone is above where I want them to be. Sylvain Marveaux hasn’t played for a while so he’s just slightly behind where we want him to be, and Xisco is a little bit behind.”

“But the main guys are looking good. 

It will be good to get Sylvain back in shape,  since he did have an injury ravaged season in his last year at Rennes, and it will be good to ensure he’s completely recovered from his injuries.

Xisco has been a problem for Newcastle since he joined from Deportivo in 2008 for an amazing £5.7M, and it’s now because of his £50K/week wages, and the fact he is nowhere near being a first team player at Newcastle.

But he still has two years left on his contract, and has every legal right to remain on Newcastle’s books during that time, even though he will not play in the first team.

Those types of  transfer mistakes are things the Newcastle regime must rule out in the future, as Newcastle have had players like Xisco before,  on huge wages but not good enough for the first team, and another Spaniard,  Marcelino, comes to mind as one good example.

You would have thought that Xisco would at least turn up fit at the Newcastle training camp.

But on the positive side it seems most players are in very good shape, and the pre-season gets under way tomorrow night at Darlington, followed by three games in the US.

Comments welcome.



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51 comments so far

  • adamv

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #1

    1st 🙂

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  • StuW

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #2

    I hope he takes Xisco to USA. Give the lad a chance, he deserves that.

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  • adamv

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #3

    I thought pardew had said Tiote was not fully fit yet?

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  • alec6247toon

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #4

    shame about marveaux, would have been good to see him get some game time, but he is getting there im sure, and xisco, just get rid of him!

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #5

    i still remember xisco’s pass the carroll in our 6-0 hammering of Villa. just give the lad a chance in the friendlies and we can judge him after that.

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  • dak76

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #6

    Should give Xisco a ‘free’ transfer – purely to get his wages off the books. Then insert a clause as part of the deal where we would get a percentage of any future transfer fee…..
    The fella is obviously a drain on the wages which could be used on other deals for palyers….

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  • grumpy_old_sod

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #7

    Paper talk about us bidding £4 million for nzogbia on ssn. Bit low if that’s true, just paper talk rubbish again I would imagine.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #8

    What about Tiote?

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #9

    @7

    Never saw that, not a bad opening offer really if he is worth £9M

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  • grumpy_old_sod

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #10

    Nufc_richyg01

    Apparently they also say that Wigan want £10 million, so your probably not far off at all. But I agree, better to start low and get to a reasonable price. Hope it is true.

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  • adamv

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #11

    In my opinnion Xisco has been better than Strolla when he has played.

    Only my opinnion though 🙂

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #12

    @11

    Im actually quite disappointed that Xisco is not fully fit

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  • toon18

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #13

    StuW
    According to joey’s Twitter xisco is going to Holland with the reserve squad.

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  • Stuart

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #14

    Tiote played a few international games in June. I don’t think its a case of him not being fully fit, just a case of giving the lad a break before the USA tour.

    I mean, we all know what tiote can do and will do in a game, use the darlo match to give gosling, vuckic etc a run out, see what they can do.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #15

    @18

    Thats a shame, means Pards aint even interested in taking a look at the lad.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #16

    You lads seen the £40,000 shares payouts due to Sports Direct staff for achieving income over £195M annual Target:

    http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/506786293?-11058

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  • Stuart

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #17

    If Xisco has been here so long and every manager hasnt given him a chance then surely there must be a good reason for it.

    He must be like Ranger and not put a shift in at all during training, or have a terrible attitude or something.

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  • Stuart

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #18

    @Richy

    You’ll have everyone ranting about him spending all that profit on us now.

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  • toon009

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #19

    I remember that pass to Carroll when Xisco got subbed on as well. He really deserves a chance. Needs to step it up.
    But, if he is going to come in unfit, I guess he is not serious.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #20

    @18

    LOL

    I actually thought if he made £200+M selling shoddy sportswear, why would he need to take money off the club.?

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  • Stuart

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #21

    Haha, a very good point. If you’re making £200m a year profit selling shite trakky bottoms you don’t need to pittance of a profit you can make from a football club like.

    I bet you £200m that no-one will believe that though haha!

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  • Stuart

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #22

    *the pittance

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  • Mo Drysdale

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #23

    1st Team & 2nd Team sticking to a 4-4-2 formation for ease with what we have got at the moment.

    Not bad, with a couple of additions:

    1st Team

    =================Harper==================

    Simpson=====Saylor=======Coloccini=====Enrique

    Gutierrez====Cabaye========Tiote=====Marveaux

    ================Ben-Arfa=================

    ==================Ba====================

    2nd Team

    =================Krul====================

    Gosling====Williamson====Tavernier=====Ferguson

    Raylor=====Barton========Guthrie======Lua-Lua

    ================Vuckic===================

    =================Best====================

    Left in reserve:

    Forster
    Shola Ameobi
    Sam Ameobi
    Kadar
    Donaldson
    Richardson
    Inman
    Airey
    New young French winger (Cant remember name)

    Should be sold or given away or loaned out:

    Lovenkrands
    Ranger
    Smith
    Routledge
    Perch

    We need:

    1/2 New Striker’s
    1 New Centre Back
    1 New Left Back (2 if Jose goes)
    1 New Right Winger

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  • Klatoon

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #24

    If we have only bid 4m for Nzogbia maybe its got to do with the clauses that were inserted when we sold him ie a sell on percentage?

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  • CLOIN

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #25

    Ive just seen a report from AP who states that we will have to move out players to help him bring in 1-2 new players before the season starts because we apparently have a big squad.
    1) does this indicate that Nzogbia is a no no?
    2) with Marveaux still injured (how long will it be before we see him bearing in mind he has been out for a year
    3) how can he say we have a big squad ?

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  • Stuart

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #26

    Marveaux isnt injured, he just isnt quite match fit yet. He was fit to play the last few games last season but his club didnt play him. He just needs to get his fitness levels up, I expect him to feature in the usa tour.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #27

    @CLOIN // Jul 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

    you sure Pardew said we have a big squad? We were scrapping through towards the end of last season with a ridiculously small squad. lol. and so far we offloaded 3 and brought in 3. nowhere near a healthy squad size.

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  • CLOIN

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #28

    reported by the chron

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  • BiggMarketBoy

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #29

    Cloin – I read somewhere that we can only register 25 players and at the moment we have 24… maybe that’s what he means by big? Also would explain why we need to ship out some deadwood.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #30

    @23

    Much respect for you pulling that together and it is nice to see that we have some cover in every position.

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  • CLOIN

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #31

    Richy

    typical stupid answer from you

    AP if you read his report is really saying we will buy 1-2 when players have moved out.

    would you really be happy with those players that 23 has shown?

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #32

    @29

    The Fifa ruling requires us to name a 25 man squad, this must fit the following criteria:

    – Clubs register a squad of up to 25 players, which must include at least eight ‘home-grown’ players, at the end of each transfer window.

    – Home-grown players do not have to be English; home-grown players are defined as those who “irrespective of nationality or age, have been affiliated to the FA or Welsh FA for a period of three seasons or 36 months prior to 21st birthday”

    – Clubs can supplement squad with unlimited number of players under the age of 21.

    – Changes can be made only during transfer windows, although in exceptional circumstances (eg goalkeeping injury crisis) moves could be allowed.

    – Players loaned to Football League clubs cannot be replaced, but can regain their spot on return to parent club.

    – Rules apply only to Premier League matches, not European, FA Cup or League Cup action.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jul 14, 2011 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #33

    Richy

    Say what you like about Ashley, but I think his big incentives for success is great. Performance related pay has been needed for ages. Shame Nolan wasn’t up for it, for finishing higher next year.

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  • Stuart

    Jul 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #34

    @Cloin – wtf is your problem mate. It seems like you only come on here to have a go and insult other toon fans.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #35

    @31

    I never said it was quality, nor did I say that there was not room for improvement.

    Mo has merely highlighted the situation at this moment in time, with over a month of the window remaining, there is bound to be changes.

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #36

    @33

    Im not knocking him at all, I think he has done a great job for the club financially and if he could somehow transfer such a bonus package onto our players then great!

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  • CLOIN

    Jul 14, 2011 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #37

    If you look i only insult the idiots

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #38

    @COLON

    You must spend a lot of time insulting yourself then you tool.

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  • Stuart

    Jul 14, 2011 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #39

    No mate, you insult people that don’t agree with your miserable view of the club.

    It basically shows you up as an idiot as rather than debate the subject reasonably you just show your lack of intellect by just slagging them off.

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  • CLOIN

    Jul 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #40

    I only post my outlook on my club.If you do not agree fine but it is stupid remarks from muppets that i respond to

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