Pardew Grades Demba Ba, Sylvain Marveaux And Mehdi Abeid


With another injury to Ben Arfa, this time to his left ankle, Alan Pardew was naturally keen to look at the positives from last night’s 0-0 draw at Sporting Kansas.

Mehdi Abeid – has a lot to learn

The unfortunate thing last night was that Ben Arfa was looking very good for Newcastle in those first 30 minutes, and if we can ever keep this boy fit, he will become a great player for the Magpies.

And it was great to see Sylvain Marveaux making his debut, and playing his first game since last October, and he also looked classy, and almost scored in that first half with an excellent shot.

Pardew talked about Sylvain:

“Marveaux hasn’t played for 10 months, but he showed good quality.”  “He was unlucky not to score.”

Also making his first start for Newcastle was Senegal striker Demba Ba, but he didn’t show too much in the game, and Alan had this to say about the Newcastle striker:

“Demba looked a bit ring-rusty, but he is a big guy and his sharpness will come later.”

“He is a diligent worker, but the quality he has he didn’t show last night. We’ve seen him before so it will come.”

18 year-old  Mehdi Abeid also made his second appearance in pre-season, and he looked good in the second half, but as may be expected, the young Frenchman also still has a lot to learn.

Alan pointed out some of the areas where the French U18 International needs to improve his game:

“Mehdi has a lot to learn and is in the process of learning the Premier League.”

“He got caught in possession, but he has quality there. He will get more chances.”

This is what you would expect from one so young, that he  still has much to learn, but on the positive side, this lad looks to have great ability and we think Alan Pardew could well fast track this lad next season.

That would be especially true if his big pal, Ben Arfa, remains on the sidelines through injury.

Newcastle still have a paper-thin squad, so the hope is that some of out top youngsters can step up to the plate for Newcastle next season, to further bolster the squad.

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152 comments so far

  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #1

    Cant wait for the season to start

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  • kevymartins

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #2

    @Andy i have a team . . you made a league yet?

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  • geoff777

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #3

    Weird …

    If I was a professional athlete getting paid 30K+ a week, I’d consider it necessary to keep my weight down and be sit 52 weeks a year.

    I’d be embarrassed if my manager described me as ring rusty even in a pre-season game.

    How Campbell was signed at his fitness levels last season I don’t know.

    Hopefully Ba will get his act together asap.

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  • stuckdownsouth

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #4

    Please don’t say Paper thin Squad because it’s not true and just alarmist. We have an unbalanced, and in some cases in my opinion not good enough squad.

    But it is only left back where we have no competition.

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  • Andy

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #5

    26808-13480

    That is the code. I think it’s a private league

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  • Mags

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #6

    Ed as regards your comment about keeping Ben Arfa fit, perhaps he should be getting more protection from refs, you cannot allow for bad tackles.

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  • Andy

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #7

    Don’t really think you can avoid injuries like Ben Arfa for something that was a reckless tackle. Nout to do with him being fragile it was just a bad tackle.

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  • Don’t know if anyone has posted it but here’s a good 4 minutes of highlights from Kansas game:

    http://goalshighlights.com/2011/07/21/sporting-kansas-city-0-0-vs-newcastle-united-highlights

    WARNING… !
    Some heavy advertising on this site: Not for under 18’s

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  • Mags

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #9

    Andy – great minds and all that 😀

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  • kevymartins

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #10

    OOh shit i made a sky sports 1 ooops

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  • AndyMac

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #11

    eaststandgeordie says:
    “Cant wait for the season to start”

    Lessope we’ve got eleven fit players left by Aug 13th 🙂

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  • Toonboy_84

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #12

    @ andy

    Just joined buddy!

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  • Toonboy_84

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #13

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

    This is where to join lads

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  • Andy

    Jul 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #14

    Good man. Trying to get ed to advertise it as it’ll be a good laugh. For anyone interested website is
    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

    league code is 26808-13480

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  • Has Xisco had a game? Has he even in USA?

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  • samigee14

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #16

    its is funny how newcastle appear to have a paper thin squad but actually we dont. we have at least 32 players in the first team squad now but we always seem to have players injured or unavaliable. here is our squad.

    GK-krul
    GK-harper
    GK-fortser
    DF-colo
    DF-saylor
    DF-willo
    DF-simpson
    DF-jose
    DF-kadar
    DF-tavernier
    MF-barton
    MF-cabaye
    MF-HBA
    MF-guthrie
    MF-ferguson
    MF-abied
    MF-marveax
    MF-spiderman
    MF-sameobi
    MF-vuckic
    MF-donaldson
    MF-richardson
    MF-raylor
    MF-routledge
    MF-smith
    MF-tiote
    CF-ba
    CF-best
    CF-ameobi
    CF-lovenkrands
    CF-airey
    CF-ranger
    CF-xisco

    that is all I can think of and that is quite a sizable squad but with injuries and players going out on loan we always seem to be strugling for options.

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  • solano

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #17

    Samigee- the debate is really about quality, not numbers. In truth, there isn’t a great deal of quality in your list and as we can only field 11 players at any one time, I think a substitution of some of our Championship quality players for proven top-notchers would be a wise move. There is also the inevitable late sale of Jose to take into account which in my eyes sees us without a specialised left back. + Where are the goals going to come from?

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  • Barras

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #18

    @Andy

    I’ve copied and pasted the code down, will join but at a later date. I’ll let you know on here when I’ve joined buddy.

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  • Toonboy_84

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #19

    Up to 9 teams already. Moving quickly.

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  • barryvenison

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #20

    I always thought the yahoo fantasy league is a much better option. I’ve played it for the past few seasons. Here is the link, check it out for yourself. http://uk.premiership.fantasysports.yahoo.com/

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  • AndyMac

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #21

    solano says:

    “Samigee- the debate is really about quality, not numbers”

    As it was last season ! Pardwho talked, at the back end of last season, of needing 20-22 quality players. I think you’d struggle to get 12 from that list including JB and Jose who wont be here soon !

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  • dipesh14

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #22

    @GeordieGerman- found a safe YouTube link
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4pZNWuZPXA

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  • Colo2

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #23

    And my team’s in the fantasy league should be good craic

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  • GeordieDan

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #24

    GeordieGerman>

    He’s in Holland mate. Though doubt he’ll bother to actually play while he’s there.

    Not like he’s getting paid for it is it?

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  • davybtoon

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #25

    am excited for the season now, looks like weve been playing some good stuff n 2 clean sheets is always good, abeid looking like hes gonna b a real talent
    think the club is doin the ryt thing sending hba back n some rest n treatment n if no ligament damage he will b back for fiorentina

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  • davybtoon

    Jul 21, 2011 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #26

    taarabt close to joining psg which means the erding deal will b a step closer to happening,
    i think we all kno jose is being looked after bcoz hes off n i hope the rumour of cash plus jose for aqualini is true real good player

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  • Klatoon

    Jul 21, 2011 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #27

    On HBA,someone on twitter said Tiote was gonna get a free-role as Benny’s bodyguard,tongue in cheek but maybe AP should consider it 🙂

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  • SwedishMagpie

    Jul 21, 2011 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #28

    yeeeeah got my new home shirt today 😀 and I also joined the league 🙂 ohh ah demba ba !!:D

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  • BOOM BOOM THE 1ST

    Jul 21, 2011 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #29

    are we sure that was demba on highlights he moves like strola.

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  • Aquilani Flopped. Dont want him.

    This guy is a Legend.Took the Piss out of Liverfool’s Training Session. Liverfool fans were right t!tw@nks.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXcpzC-EOJo&feature=related

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  • Hardly heavy advertising GG,

    all i see is a pre recorded video of some women beside the Highlights video and white background…

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  • Ah. Closed the “AD” and now i see the full page…

    Well Hello there…. Thank god the missus wasnt in the room.

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  • gorskino10

    Jul 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #33

    samigee14@

    Thats our WHOLE First/Reserve/Youth in that list (Pretty Much)

    When you say SQUAD size you put in players who have had Apps or Appears on the Bench.

    GK-fortser (Probs will be sold)
    DF-jose (Probs will be sold)
    DF-kadar (Loaned out)
    DF-tavernier (Loaned out)

    MF-sameobi (Loaned out)

    MF-donaldson (Played 2 apps since 08 doubting his quality as nearly released/Reserve at best)

    MF-richardson (0Apps/ Reserve not backup)

    MF-routledge (Probs will be sold)
    MF-smith (Probs will be sold)

    CF-airey (13Min in FACup in the only 1 App, hardly would say he is Backup! Reserve)
    CF-ranger (Loaned out or sold)
    CF-xisco (Probs will be sold or another loan)

    Most teams dont count Youth as backup and when they do its the odd few who get chances like Josh McEachran (Chelsea) etc..

    Take 12 off that 32 and that 20, by the start of the season, ATM we have (Guthrie/Enrique/Fergie/Ben Arfa/Vuckic) all Injured and this is just in Pre Season.

    Most of last year we had according to Medic sites around 10 Injured all the time, So take our Wingers, we have loaned out LuaLua and Wayne will be sold so that leaves Merveaux and Jonas as the only 2 Wingers in our squad, then we will be using our YOUTH as backup like Fergie/Sammy who between them probs have less than 10 Apps in EPL.
    Although i rate them with Fergie who gets injured every game, we are relying on untested youth,which shows no real depth.

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  • carlton nufc

    Jul 21, 2011 at 3:55 PM

    Comment #34

    Is there any transfer news today lads what about the Twitter lot ?

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  • toontoon_andyb

    Jul 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #35

    Andy lad I’m up for that I will join up laters. So lads where’s that wey I chicken pie has he been bak on since he said 2days ago som one was havin a medical full of poooo I’m guessing hmm another cwarr

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  • NottsGeordie

    Jul 21, 2011 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #36

    @Andy

    I joined the fanasy league (i think, dont know if it went through) 🙂

    how much people are in the league atm?

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  • Andy

    Jul 21, 2011 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #37

    28 so far lads! Didn’t think there’d be much of an interes

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  • Toon_Jock

    Jul 21, 2011 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #38

    Benny is just too good, that’s why ‘lesser quality’ players keep breaking him! SO ANNOYED AGAIN – we need him fit for the Arse and hopefully the whole of next season! Get well soon, son. TOON TOON!!!!!!!

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  • ~Vive la révolution de Châteauneuf~ @ 32. I was wishing mine was. :-d

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  • carlton nufc

    Jul 21, 2011 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #40

    No transfer news then lads ?

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