Will Joey Barton Be A Solution Or A Problem For Newcastle?


One of the things to be decided in the coming week is the status of Joey Barton.

Alan Pardew – wants to sort out the Joey Barton situation

Fabio Capello has already said this weekend that while Joey is a very good player, he can also be a dangerous player for a team too, because of his ability to disrupt things.

And we’ve seen that capability  in full this week,  as he seemed to be a wrecking ball to the Newcastle Board who he was going after, and maybe manager Alan Pardew too, and we’re not even going to mention the Newcastle players that he dressed down after the poor showing at Leeds United last Sunday.

Oh, if only they were all as good as Joey thinks he is – all would be well.

Alan Pardew said the plan is to solve the Joey Barton problem this week:

“Joey’s situation is where we were on Friday. We’re all taking a deep breath and seeing where we go,”  “You want to have your best players and I’m a manager who wants my best players playing for the club.”

“Joey needs to buy into what we’re doing – if he doesn’t see that then he’ll probably go.” “But you never know – we’re all taking some time out. We’ll assess it next week.”

“Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday me and Joey will have a couple of texts and we’ll take it from there.”

And we’d rather not have the Joey Barton saga drag on as long as the Jose Enrique saga has dragged on this summer, and really if Joey still has doubts about Newcastle,  he should just move to some other club, and soon too.

We would like him to stay and be a big part of  Newcastle’s future, but if he’s not behind the management he can hardly do that, and the same can be said of Jose Enrique too.

We used to tell our employees at IBM to try to be a solution rather than be a  problem, and that would be some good advice Joey could take in this week.

It’s all too easy just to  criticize things, that’s too easy because things will never be perfect, and while the scene at Newcastle right now is admittedly not good, it’s about 10 times better than it was two years ago.

We prefer to remain optimistic about Newcastle, given the other choice, which is to be down on them all the time.

And that’s even while Mike Ashley is the owner, but with good management and some astute buys, Newcastle can still become successful again, even though that may not look too likely at this moment.

That’s where I stand on this, and as far as I’m concerned it’s upward and onward for the lads from now on, and yes I’ll get some criticism for that view of things.

But the situation is not as dire that a win against Arsenal next Saturday wouldn’t put right, and put right rather  quickly too.

Comments welcome.



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66 comments so far

  • Fostino

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #1

    come on barton…suck it up and get on with it. give back to the club that has given you so much

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  • nightfa11

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #2

    my guess is a problem.. if hes not happy about sth he complains about it on tweeter.. who want that? if he really cared about NUFC he wouldnt try to disrupt the dressing room with comments like that.. especailly in the middle of transfer window.. theres still 1 month left.

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  • shearerno9

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #3

    I dont know if its 10x better than 2 years ago, i think its a fine line that could go either way – hence why pardew is asking for calm in the first 5 games, if it all goes wrong in them it will be a very very long season of doom mongering, im just hoping that, a draw against arsenal – win v the scum is the start to avoid anarchy in the stands. At home we should beat fulham and we should be beating qpr and blackburn, anything could happen at villa. Realistically what i expect from the first 5 w2-d1-l2

    It was a long summer of essentially no transfer outlay when we are desperately crying out for a new striker and some cover in other areas. If we go into the season with this squad, about xmas will really show how much strength in depth we have.

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  • mr_rabe7

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #4

    Barton like the club, but he does not like fools the way to manage, they have a base deception in everything!!

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  • Andy

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #5

    hate watching nolan in a west ham shirt! Doesn’t seem right, hope they stay in the championship

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  • Fostino

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #6

    if he carries on twitting like he does, he’ll turn the club into a joke and no player is bigger then the club…

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  • Anyone seen Joey’s new avatar on Twitter? It’s Ernesto Guevara de la Serna. Joey sees himself as a revolutionary But to compare himself to Che Guevara is a little over the top.

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  • toon_dog

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #8

    ANOTHER TOPIC LADS, WAS AT ME COUSINS WEDDING YESTERDAY N THE GROOM MADE HIS SPEACH AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE SAID WAS HE CRITISISED THAT WHEN THE HEN PARTY MET KEVIN NOLAN IN BENIDORM HE LEFT NEWCASTLE FOR WEST HAM EVERY ONE CHUCKLED BRIDE N GROOM BIG TOON FANS HAD THE WEDDING YESTERSAY SO THEY DIDNT MISS ANY FOOTY.
    BUT THEN ME COUSIN WAS TELLING IS THAT THEY SEEN NOLAN LOADS OVER THERE THEY SEEMED TO HAVE THE SAME BAR CRAWL RITUAL AS U DO ON HOLIDAY AND HIS BROTHER TOLD HER THAT HE WAS GONNA BE GOING TO WEST HAM N THIS WAS MAY !!! WHEN DID HE LEAVE JULY OR SOMMIT. JUST SHOWS HOW LITTLE WE KNOW ABOUT OUR CLUB.

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  • listie

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #9

    Come on Cardiff !

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  • calvinzolamakongo

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #10

    I just wanna say I’m quite happy with what we have done so far n aslong as we keep everyone we have got we will be fine and if we don’t get another striker I think we will still get goals I remember when carrol was sold and ameobi played alot n he was quality got goals held the ball up well and then he fractured his jaw and we were all gutted because he was on form I think he can still do a good job and as for obertan I remember when he made his first few appearances he looked very good Pacey skilful his does lack end product in crossing but his finishing is good and most of the time he doesn’t cross it he gets into the box to the byline and then cuts it back in the box so the strikers can tap it in I jus think we need a versatile defender and yes a striker but if not now we will be ok until jan .

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  • Dannyo

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #11

    Sorry. I find entire posts written in CAPS very little belivable as its purely attention seeking.
    On topic at hand; no, dressing room doesn’t sound that its all that atm, but Joey has been a MAJOR distruptive force as of late, something Alan could’ve done without. Joey is quickly becoming one of our “older” players. If he wanted the captain band so badly, he’d signed the contract given and helped Alan pull the right way.
    Joey has shown his true colors, in public, its too late to just “take it back” now. He needs to leave so Alan and the club can get on with what matters. We dont want “divas” at the club. Joey Barton, pls leave.

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  • roblee7

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #12

    desperado need a new striker…the lot we have at the moment are awful (not convinced by Ba either)…wish we’d show some ambition, someone in the mould of Podolski would be nice and a good number 9!!! Speaking of German’s, I’d take ANY of that German squad right now…perhaps Mario Gomez would be more number 9 material…hmmmm

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  • roblee7

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #13

    suppose obvious problem is we wont spend any money, even though we have vast sums of the stuff!!! So hope we are all suprised come the end of tranfer window, not even after a massive money signing, just someone we know will defo get us goals!!!

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  • roblee7

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #14

    Vagner Love aswell….why has no big club ever gone for him???every time I’ve seen him he’s looked immense!

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  • toon 4 life

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #15

    i agree calvin well said

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  • shearerno9

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #16

    Anybody else think that maybe joey on the right and obertan up front would work?? especially if we didnt get in another striker…..

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  • shearerno9

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #17

    a slight case of the Thierry Henry about it??? failed winger but striker….. now we have something

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  • roblee7

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #18

    shearerno9….good temporary solution me thinks if we don’t sign a striker

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  • cheikmate

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #19

    spanish papers are saying that were trying to sign keirrison from barcelona for 4 million euros.

    heres the link but you will need to translate it

    http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/20110806/keirrison-podria-fichar-por-newcastle/1108321.shtml

    what yous think of this, anyone know much about this guy ?

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  • Burni

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #20

    Andy are you not glad? Made me realise even more so how non existent he is!

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  • shearerno9

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #21

    As far as i know, they bought kerrison in the hope his value would sky rocket so they could sell him, they loaned him out to porto or something and it didnt really work out and the same again in italy or maybe it was holland???? Either way clearly there have been a few clubs who have rated him enough to take him on loan but then after seeing him decided he just hasnt got it…. Dont think he would be worth it – even the 4 million euros which is prob a little over 2 million pounds…. says it all really

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  • Munich Mag

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #22

    roblee7…..Podolski or Mario Gomez…?! .you’ve absolutely no idea what you are talking about mate.

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  • Burni

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #23

    DANNYO LOOK AT MEEE! Lold at ur comment

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  • toon_dog

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #24

    look danyo am not coozy am not cwarr a dont ever come on here spouting sh1t a dont claim to be an insider of the club nor do i claim to have friends in the know. all i know is what we as fans see on blogs,forums and SSN n why a would ever have to come on here to attention seek is utterly pathetic I HAVE A LIFE !!.
    all i am saying is what me cousin told is as she got told by utter chance of seeing them abroad, she would have no reason at all to lie about it they have photos with them i was just telling you guys this info as i was shocked it was going on that eartly COMPRENDE

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  • jaw4life

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #25

    @Cheikmate

    that article even indicates that they’ve rehashed their story from caughtoffside.com so i doubt they have any credible sources….that being said it does seem a odd rumour to make up with out any info

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  • Munich Mag

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #26

    Ed…Joey Barton IS a problem for Newcastle…

    He needs to shut his daft mouth, toe the line, buckle down and pull his weight for the toon. FFS he receives a fair wedge of money from the toon at the end of the day.

    The bloke thinks he’s a legend in his own lunchtime, and wor daft fans fawn over him like some daft puppy.

    Shut up and do your job man Barton.

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  • Dannyo

    Aug 7, 2011 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #27

    @ cheik

    If you think about it, it may be true. As far as i know, we havent been linked with any spanish players in this window. The story originates in spain, and it concern newcastle. I suspect we’re quite low key over ther now, beeing relegated and all. The player also fits the mold, and we havent been “really” linked with another realistic striker since erdinc.
    Seems like the player we’re lookin for, but doesnt figure in Peps plans atm.
    Could be good.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 7, 2011 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #28

    With barton its all about ” me me me’ the guy’s ego is off the scale, best player in England etc. Should ahve got rid of a long time ago. one half a good season is a poor return on so much other c..p

    It would only all blow up again further down the line if Joey doesn’t get his own way all the time. History has shown that time and again.

    There is a place for mavericks and winning ones at that, like Cantona. High maintenance pseudo intellectuals who aren’t winners though, is another thing altogether.

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  • Marty-Toon

    Aug 7, 2011 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #29

    Any links for the Community Shield??????

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  • Stuart

    Aug 7, 2011 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #30

    Bloody hell, I’ve missed alot since Friday like.

    Glad we’ve finally signed someone (hopefully) in Obertan. I havent seen much of him and I didnt really rate him last season, but most people on the mufc blogs reckon hes going to be class in the future.

    Still hoping for a striker, LB, CB and a cheeky surprise like. But we all know that won’t happen lol.

    On topic, I’d love to keep Barton here for his on-field ability, hes class and the team wouldnt be the same without him. But at the same time, if hes not happy hes a problem.

    The only way he should stay is if everythings cleared up. If theres any lingering doubt in Joey’s mind about anything we could find ourselves in the same situation in a few months time.

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  • Dannyo

    Aug 7, 2011 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #31

    Seems the server went off a while there…
    @ toon dog
    Well, it wasn’t as hard to read what you wrote now… Works SOOO much better with all the CAPS. Capice?

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  • Felipe

    Aug 7, 2011 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #33

    @21: €4m = £3.5m more or less…

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  • Chris

    Aug 7, 2011 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #34

    cardiff winning 1-0 kenny miller 90 + 1. nolan nothing special!

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  • gonz

    Aug 7, 2011 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #35

    I like the way Pardew is handling the Barton situation. He’s right in leaving him out of training with the first team. And, the fact that he states that the door is always open is a positive. I for one want Barton to pull the same way as the rest of the team and see the BIGGER picture. He definitely makes our team stronger, whether he’s starting or coming on from the bench. When he dawns the black & white, orange, black kit, he does wear it with pride. And for that reason alone I want him on our team. I hope he resolves the issue with the board and does all his talking now on from the pitch. If he wants to get back into the England squad then he should stay and fight for his place again. But, this honestly has to be the last time he fooks up or it’s GOOD RIDDANCE!

    I’ve also noticed on the last thread about Pavlyuchenko people were pleased that he could be joining us, and saying his goals ratio wasn’t that bad. It’s worse than Erding and yet people were saying he wasn’t good enough, even though most of them probably have never seen him play. I admit I have hardly seen him play, but I put all my faith that G. Carr knows what he’s doing when scouting these players. Erding is still our best option out there for the way we want to set out and play. I also heard a rumour that Huntellaar is back on our radar. Any one else hear that rumour?

    Any new songs to sing about the new players we’ve brought in?
    Cabaye
    Abeid
    Marveaux
    Ba
    Obertan

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  • Obafan

    Aug 7, 2011 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #36

    After all what happenned Barton will be a huge problem for NUFC. Let him go, cause he is a walking bomb. Hplayed ggood frst half of last season and he was calling himself the best midfielder in England. This is not the type of player we need.

    How will Cabaye react if the man who was so upbeat for not taking set pieces is going to return. No to me.

    On another hand nice to see Cardiff take 3 points away from WHU.

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  • Felipe

    Aug 7, 2011 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #37

    Anyone see Green’s horror save for Cardiff’s goal. England’s goalkeeper!!!

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  • thai-mag

    Aug 7, 2011 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #38

    nolan with a 5 year contract his legs will be gone by xmas, what will he do for the next 4 and a half years

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  • boater

    Aug 7, 2011 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #39

    Gonz – dang it, if only you could get word to Barton about your ability to see the bigger picture.. surely him being in the 1st team squad and privy to the comings and goings of players attitudes, contracts and overall running is only clouding his judgment.

    Out of interest, what do you think of Pardew saying we won’t see the team performing at its best for a few games into the season… that’s just perfect too right?

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  • Felipe

    Aug 7, 2011 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #40

    Barton is more trouble than he’s worth. Move him on and free up his wages for someone who wants to be here…

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