Good news today that Cheick Tioté will be back either tomorrow or Wednesday, from his prolonged stay in Accra, Ghana to get his visa renewed.
Cheick Tiote - partnering Cabaye in midfield
And of course he will then be in contention for Saturday’s first Premier League game against Arsenal at St. James’ Park, and Newcastle fans could get the chance to see the new central midfield of Tiote and Cabaye.
Yohan Cabaye has looked impressive during the pre-season games, and he was just great against Fiorentina on Saturday, as he played the defensive midfield role in Tiote’s absence, with Haris Vuckic partnering him in midfield.
And of course the 18 year old Slovenian, Vuckic, has also looked a very good player in pre-season, and this could be the season when Haris makes the big breakthrough into the Newcastle first team.
Newcastle fans will be thinking the club has made another top drawer deal in getting Cabaye to Newcastle for only €5M, and this is what Alan Pardew said about the French International today:
“He is central to my vision of how I want to play. Last season I don’t think we had control of games, especially at home.”
“He will give us that. His passing and his grasp of the ball will be significant for us. So far he is looking good. He was the outstanding player on the pitch for me on Saturday.”
“He was playing against four top Italian internationals and he may play for France this week, so it shows we have a very good player on our hands.”
Cabaye and Tiote could form a stellar central midfield for Newcastle this season, and we should get our first chance to see the two lads in action together in a competitive game, on Saturday evening.
And Newcastle could well have Tim Krul starting in goal for the Dutch against England at Wembley on Wednesday evening, and Yohan Cabaye playing for France too.
First things first – let’s hope they don’t get injured!
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1 shearerno9 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:12 AM
cm and gk are the only two positives at the club right now, plenty of cover and pretty good players.
Id include CB if we had maybe one more quality player as cover
2 phoonck // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:13 AM
finally! was worried about wanting out of newcastle after all the mess in recent weeks! thank god he’s returning!
3 blissna // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM
I don’t know if I dare say it, but Tiote seems pretty loyal.
4 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM
‘Initial reports from the Metropolitan police of a hoard of people bouncing up and down arm in arm with Newcastle scarves around their faces chanting ‘We want Ashley out’ before ransacking a London Branch of Sports Direct are unconfirmed at this stage.’
Someone just posted this on facebook. I hope its not true like. Doesnt exactly send out the best message to potential buyers lol.
5 toonboyjake // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:21 AM
Stuart I think thats been said very tongue in cheek after the past 2 days of riots here
6 roshan MAGPIE // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:24 AM
these guys are the best NUFC mid fielders we ever had
7 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Haha fair one toonboyjake. Don’t really know the crack, just know that wouldnt go down well if it was true lol.
8 cyprus // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:25 AM
The bullies on this blog won’t like this article but it seems fair, providing both sides of the argument.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature/_/id/939809/quiet-ashley-deserves-credit?cc=5739
9 DerkaSayWhat // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM
Ashley saved Barton career,A bit of respect should be shown toward him…
10 xfer // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Looking forward to the partnership. Will be immense. Its great to see how Cabaye can hold the midfield and yet a good attacking midfielder.
11 mushy // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM
@Klatoon “…how was Nolan testerday?…”
Good question. I watched him with particular interest, and in my opinion he was OK.
On the plus side, he drifted unoticed into some very dangerous positions. His distribution was unambitious but reliable.
On the other side, work rate very poor (maybe not 100% fit yet). Generally fairly ananomous. Had a good half-chance to win the match but missed his header.
In summary, would I pay £4.5 mill for 29 year old Nolan and put him on a 5 year, £55k per week contract. Absolutely NOT. Would any Premiership manager, I don’t think so.
In fact, hands-up who would.
12 s_mav // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Yeah, we’ve got a decent midfield, but it’s just a shame we don’t have anyone who’ll score goals. We’ve received £42million for Carroll, Nolan and Routledge. Is it so ridiculous to expect the club to go out and spend decent money on a decent striker? I’m not saying the club should go and spend £50million on one player but a little respect for the fans and investment in the team from the NUFC ownership would go a long way. Is it any wonder the likes of Enrique, Barton and apparently Simpson want to leave.
13 Eastander // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:35 AM
Nasri apparently agreed 185k a week deal with city… why didnt we offer him that and we could have had him! ffs ashley out!
Sorry just thought i would join the whingers for a minute… was quite fun actually!
14 nufc_mad // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:35 AM
don’t know what the rest of you think but, even though we haven’t exactly had the greatest of luck lately, I’m excited to see what these new boys can do, I think us geordies will be pleasantly surprised.
15 barryvenison // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:36 AM
See we’ve been linked with Grant Holt. Norwich’s striker for 3.5 mill. Think he has 1 year left on his contract but he’s 30. He’s scored 45 goals in 84 appearances for the Canaries though they were in League 1 and the Championship. Seems we really are running out of affordable options if this rumor is true.
16 JackButler // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:37 AM
If Obertan signs today our midfield is going to be very strong, we just need a striker and left back in
17 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:37 AM
s-mav – We’ll get a striker in before the window closes, no doubt about it.
Granted it would’ve been much better if it was sorted straight away but we will definately have another striker before the window closes.
Plus we have Ba and Best. If we’d had to pay a fee for Ba I reckon he wouldve cost around £10m. Signed for West Ham for £7m in Jan, then got 7 in 12 or something. Good business.
18 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Cant see that being true barry like. Surely if hes even on the list he’ll be at the very bottom.
19 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:40 AM
@16 Jack Butler
Agreed.
I mean Ba, if he replicates his statistical goal scoring record before joining should start banging in the goals but we also need another striker. If we sign Crouch I would be smiling ear to ear.
So underrated. Scores goals for fun when in the side, comfortable on the ball and of course he’ll bring Abi Clancy up to Newcastle…
20 mushy // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:40 AM
Please not 30 year old Grant Holt.
He’s perfectly Ok as a second division target man, but thats not the style we’re supposed to be aiming for surely we can do better.
21 JackButler // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:42 AM
We need a striker with pace, something that none of our current strikers have
22 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:43 AM
As for our midfield, honestly I think is is infinitely stronger than last year.
Marveaux/Obertan/Abeid…. Cabaye/Gosling/Vuckic…. Tiote/Barton/Guthrie….Ben Arfa/Fergie/Jonas
Well covered across the board and then theres Smith too
23 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:45 AM
NUFC wont be signing Grant Holt lmao come on now…
Other fans dont believe me when I say it but the media HATES nufc lol…. I swear they love dragging our name through the mud, exaggerating every situation all in hoping the passionate fans kick off and give them more news to use
24 toonfan09 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:46 AM
hope we arent going after pavlyuchenko like some people are saying we need pace up front not power
25 Cardboy // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:48 AM
@11 … watched the game yesterday with interest. Nolan workrate looked less desire than evident at NUFC, however still got into goal poaching positions and was unlucky not to grab them the winner. Good luck to him. He will definitely net them a few goals over the season.
26 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:48 AM
toonfan09
Pav and power? And you seen him play? He is tricky on the ball, creative and has buckets more technical ability than any of our strikers. Plus he knows where the goal is, id take him in an instant
27 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:49 AM
obertan reminds me of gillespie but must be ok player for mau u to sign him in first place think he needs regular games
why doesnt pardew just get it over and done with and sign carlton cole as we know its going to happen isnt that bad i suppose
on nolan
In summary, would I pay £4.5 mill for 29 year old Nolan and put him on a 5 year, £55k per week contract. Absolutely NOT. Would any Premiership manager, I don’t think so.
but nufc didnt have to pay 4.5mil as he was already here so the question is would you have kept him for 55k a week and the answer i would say is yes only 9 players scored more prem goals last season then nolan not bad for a midfielder
28 WWJBD // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Pav is too old and expensive plus will be on high wages he won’t be coming
If we want old expensive and on high wages we would be after the Berb
29 toonfan09 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:51 AM
mapietilldie
yea ive seen him play few times and before h went to spurs he is powerful…yes he has technical ability but we need a pacey striker…he has only scored 20 goals in summiy like 78 games in the premier league
30 BiffBaffBoff // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Tiote and Cabaye together will be immense once they’ve played some games together I reckon. Those 2 sitting behind an AM (Ben Arfa/Vuckic) will be a joy to watch!
Whats this? A positive post for once!
31 mushy // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:53 AM
But Sid, we got £4.5 mill for him. So to have him back you’ve got to post that as a debit on the books. (the curse of being an accountant)
32 JackButler // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:53 AM
When is Tiote coming back? anyone know?
33 toonfan76 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Are we not still monitoring the situation with Shane Long, Think he could make the step up to the Prem. We need a Striker! Top priority!
34 NUFC_Richyg01 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:54 AM
The two lads from PSV would see us well on our way:
Pieters & Toivonen
35 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:54 AM
supposed to be tomorrow or wednesday Jack.
36 Brutooon // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:54 AM
Last season problem with Tiote-Nolan is that Nolan is not the kind of midfield who distribute the ball, he seldom got the ball but he always get the end of crosses and freekicks because he purpose is to run from midfield
Cabaye is xavi kind of player, always got the ball and will be a good young better replacement for nolan
37 NUFC_Richyg01 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM
@32
Start of article reads Tomorrow or Wednesday mate
38 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM
@big sid: And who would you leave out of our midfield to accommodate Nolan? Cabaye, Tiote, Gosling, Ben Arfa? We can’t play em all and a soon to be 30 year old sitting on the bench getting £55k per week just doesn’t stack up. Ask Alan Smith…!
39 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM
@toonfan – Apparently we’ve made a £6m bid and left the ball in Readings court like. They want more, we won’t go higher so both clubs are playing the waiting game. Might still sign for us in late August.
40 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM
@29 toonfan09
Because he got pushed out for defoe and crouch… Pav and Kranjcar both are brilliantly gifted players but HR pushed em to the bench and whenever they got on the field they scored or played well.
Yeah id like a pacey forward too really but if we got someone like pav or crouch id be far from upset, in fact id be excited
41 NUFC_Richyg01 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:56 AM
@36
When Nolan gets on the ball, he is more than willing to pass it backwards, in order for him to move forward.
I hate passing backwards when your trying to attack, your just putting undue pressure on the defence.
42 toonfan76 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Tiote back tomorrow or Wed according to the article. (top line of this article)
43 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:57 AM
@toonfan76; Keep saying on here that I have it on very good authority that pardew doesn’t rate Long or at best is not the type of player he wants so can’t see him coming to toon…
44 barryvenison // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:57 AM
Young cheap striker’s who are quick and have a bit of Prem experience.
V. Moses
N.Delfouneso
M.B. Diouf
D.Ngog
C.Vela
Would we be happy with any of this lot? If I had to pick one I’d take Moses.
45 NUFC_Richyg01 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:57 AM
@39
When was this bid made, as Reading have so far said there have been no offers from the EPL.
46 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:57 AM
@All – Surely one of the best midfields outside of the top 4? If we had a good striker (all-rounder) we could do really well as higher than 10th.
47 Edd Case // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:57 AM
I dont think we need another striker.
I mean, we have a decent midfield so I would think 451 may suite us alot more.
Obertan – Cabaye – Tiote – Jonas/Marveaux
——————-HBA/Vuckic—————–
———————–Ba/Best——————-
Best, Ranger, Loven, Sammy Ammy and even Strola are all capable of finding the net with the right service.
Note, Barton could start in place of Obertan but for now, I would easily pick him ahead of Barton.
48 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:57 AM
mushy
he was still our player at the time so it was just a case of was he worth 55k when he was probably on 45k an extra 10 grand a week to guarantee 10 goals + a season
i wouldnt have paid 4.5m for him but i would have kept him
49 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM
@stuart 39: I doubt that very much stuart given above. No offence…
50 NUFC_Richyg01 // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM
@40
I think Pav would be a great buy, but would all depend on ‘arry’s price!
51 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 10:59 AM
of course it could just be another bit of canny pardew negotiation… and he’ll be here on Thursday
52 toonfan76 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Thanks for the feedback Stuart, What are peoples thoughts on Long? Haven’t seen him play much but heard he is pretty mobile and has a decent eye for goal.
53 NUFC_Richyg01 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM
@48
Seeing him play yesterday for WHU, he is starting to show his age, also, a couple of years ago a midfield of Parker and Nolan would have been immense, but not nowadays!
54 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM
@Richy and Felipe – No offence taken, just copied it from newcastlerumours and thats usually bullsh1t lol.
55 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:01 AM
i am worried this season about us scoring goals i know its pre season but goals have been in short supply apart from the leeds game in which i seen leeds on saturday and they were awful
56 toonfan09 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Magpietillidie22
if he got pushed put for crouch shud tht tell us something he has been in england for 3 or 4 seasons now and he still hasnt bothered to learn english
57 WWJBD // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Personally I don’t think it matters if Pardew rates players its Carr who tells Ashley who to get in
58 mushy // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:06 AM
OK Sid, we view the £4.5 mill from different perspectives… no big deal.
But I still wouldn’t like to be contractually bound to 5 years payments at £55k per week (nearly £3 mill per year) to a slowing-down 29 to 34 year old.
Sounds familiar somehow; can’t quite put my finger on it.
59 JackButler // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:06 AM
Long would be a great signing, 24 goals last season is an excellent return, outshines all of our players when we were in that league.
Any truth in Toivonen from PSV? its in the daily mail so I’m skeptical to say the least
60 Rotonda heights // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:07 AM
ANYONE BUT CROUCH !!!!##
Too old, injury prone and on massive wages. They want 9M and it means we will be playing HOOFBALL for 90 mins every match !! No thanks.
Brian Ruiz is who Spurs want to replace crouch is what we should be going for. Much younger and far more mobile and speedy. We need quick strikers with our new players not lumbering target men any more.
61 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:08 AM
@56 toonfan09
Not really? I mean every time he came on he looked good. HR is one of those who has his circle of favourites who will always make the first team.
Honestly Pav would be a top buy or loan imho.
@ALL ABOUT NOLAN WEST HAM
I watched also and hopefully it did well in showing everyone why he was surplus and wouldnt be offered a 5 yr deal.
Ever since Carroll left he had no1 to put goals on a plate for him and his work rate has plummeted. Hes showing his age and as good as he was off the field (which will make him a great manager/coach one day) he can’t play regular 1st premier league football for another 2-3 years let alone 5
62 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:09 AM
@57
And thank god for that because Carr knows a thing or two about signing top players
63 toonfan76 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM
We obviously need a striker so who do we think it might be? Lets be realistic about it, I reckon the price will be below 8m and it may even be a player we haven’t been linked with. Scratching my head a bit with this one, we all know the kind of player we would like to get, but who will we really go for.
64 JackButler // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM
toonfan76 Toivonen of PSV is the latest one, its in the Mail
65 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Yannick Djalo would be class for around £7m i reckon.
66 JackButler // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM
http://www.nufcblog.org/2011/08/toon-after-a-pair-of-psv-players-left-back-pieters-and-striker-toivonen/
67 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:13 AM
mushy
didn t nufc and nolan agree in principal to a contract dont know length before end of last season
keeping nolan with his goals and leadership i think it would gurantee survival this season with him gone dont see alot of goals in team hope i am wrong
68 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM
People talking about where the goals are going to come from but i agree with Edd Case…
Our midfield could easily play as a 5 and score bag full of goals… when the season starts and it really counts i think we will all see how good this side can be.
As long as colo stays fit our defence should continue to improve and I just think the negativity is unfounded. Everybody seems to be waiting for any bit of bad news any blowing it all out of proportion.
Hopefully we get off to a good start and the belief filters back through the club…. for me Houghtons old boys are also pissing me off at the moment, can see why the club want rid of them
69 toonfan76 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM
So does anyone know what this Toivonen of PSV is like? What sort of player is he? Quick? Good goalscorer?
70 JackButler // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:16 AM
toonfan76 there;s a video of him on this link, looks a good player, but never seen him myself
http://www.nufcblog.org/2011/08/toon-after-a-pair-of-psv-players-left-back-pieters-and-striker-toivonen/
71 Andy // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM
tovoinen would be a really good buy. Very intelligent player. Sort of reminds me of eidur gudjonsen when he was at chelki under mourinho. And if you say he wasn’t good then you’re clueless!
72 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Newcastle United preys on PSV Erik Pieters and Ola Toivonen . Trainer Alan Pardew Sat Yesterday at AZ-PSV in the stands for the pair to watch, says the Daily Mail . Pieters, who also started on the bench, the Liverpool is likely to succeed departing José Enrique. Toivonen Pardew sees the ideal player to an operating system with two strikers.
73 mushy // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM
How much money does Graham Carr earn? I’ll bet he gets less in a year than most of our squad players get in a week.
I say get in some more Carrs. Unearth even more diamonds, lots of them, develop them, sell some of them on, keep the best and pretty soon we have a team capable of competing at the very top.
Simples
74 ulsterexile // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM
@41 Richie not having a pop mate but possession of ball is more important than forward passing re barca Agree with ur criticism of Nolan but hope we are not harking towards by gone era of long ball game. expect some patient controlled possession football with Cabaye in team. This lad can play proper football
75 toonfan76 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:20 AM
@Stuart
Do you think Yannick Djalo could be on the Carr shortlist cos i think that our whole philosophy with regards to bringing in players is centred around Mr Carr’s recommendations, I think Pardew tells him the type of football or the type of player he needs for the team and Carr uses his scouting network to find the right man for the job. I think it works too!
76 barryvenison // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:21 AM
So Chelsea signed that young keeper and loaned him straightaway to Atletico Madrid. So why not Lukaku signed by Chelsea and loaned to NUFC for the season. Surely with Drogba, Torres, Sturridge, Anelka, Kalou, Malouda, Benayoun they have more than enough players that can operate in the front 3 for them. I must still be dreaming.
77 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:23 AM
@toonfan – I think you’re right about the way AP and Carr work together. AP has always liked to play attacking possession football and he will have told Carr too find those types of players.
As for Djalo, we’ve been linked with him a couple of times in Jan and this summer, hopefully he’s on Carr’s list like.
78 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Haha, now that would be class barry. More likely that we’ll sign a £20m rated striker though lol.
79 mushy // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Sid, as we’re now talking about whether Nolan would have produced the goods for us again this coming season AND if we get relagated will it be down to his departure. We have now officially entered the realms of “what if”. The only true answer is … no bugger knows.
HWTL
80 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM
dont think midfielders will not score bags of goal
gosling scored 4 goals in career
marv scored 16 goals in 5 yrs
cabaye 31 goals in 7 years
gut 7goals in 4years
ben arfa 17 goals in 7 years
this will put a hell of alot of pressure on ba to score the goals
81 Zangwill_Ho // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Pieters & Toivonen are good for us
82 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Nolan looked out of place like Gerrard when playing for England yesterday. West Ham fans didnt look to pleased… That was a terrible match.
83 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:29 AM
if nufc get sturridge on loan he will miss first 3 games anyway as he is banned from getting sent of last season
84 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Just watched some videos of Toivonen and ok its not a full game but the guy looks v.good…
Not only does he have tech ability but hes also v.good in the air and with the pace and width we are going for it could be a excellent signing. Of course im jumping the gun a little lol
85 Dannyo // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Nile Ranger rumoured not to be at training today, could he be on his way out?
86 Munster Mag // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:32 AM
I’d love it if West Ham didnt make it up. They’ll probably stroll that division, but their owners are shocking and they got away with the Tevez farce. And wouldnt we laugh if Fat Sam fell on his arse? Still, he brought us some real talent ….Enrique, Barton, and the right back who went to Villa….
87 Stuart // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:32 AM
Probably just late as usual Dannyo lol.
88 Indian Magpie // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:33 AM
whatever Nolan did or did not do, i am glad he was here for those 2 tough seasons.
89 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:33 AM
“Unfortunately there are a few negative vibes around the club at the moment but I have to say the manager, the owner and the chairman are three of the most positive people I’ve ever met. I think they’re going to take this club forward very well and I’m really looking forward to being part of it.
“I’m lucky I’m on the inside and I know the ideas they have for the club, and I’m very confident they’ll move it in the right direction.”
^Peter Beardsley said this recently http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20110805/beardo-moving-in-the-right-direction_2281670_2411721
Now I know he works for NUFC but he wouldnt say that if he didnt mean it, he could have just talked about his development squad. I believe him
90 barryvenison // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM
I thought I saw Nile Ranger on the tele in Tottenham last night, probably a little “held up” at the moment.
91 toonfan76 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:36 AM
One thing is certain, our midfield is gonna be a lot quicker this season and a lot more flair to them, If we can hit the ground running then we could have a dedent season, But we must have another Striker asap!
92 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:36 AM
@Magpietillidie 89: Me too…
93 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:39 AM
Who wouldnt believe Peter Beardsley? he doesnt look like he knows how to lie…
94 Dannyo // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM
The doom mongers who’s saying we’ll go down.
Surely we cannot be involved in relegation battle with a midfield like that?! I mean seriosuly, cmon, look at the team.
That is a top 10 team, surely.
95 Eastander // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:42 AM
Djalo’s turned down a new contract at sporting
96 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:42 AM
dannyo
when we did get relegated not many people at the start of the season thought we would with the team we had
97 Dannyo // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Even Michael Owen is making fun of Barton now, a cripple and a maniac going at eachother, bodes for a fun morning.
98 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:46 AM
@Dannyo – What is he saying?
99 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM
Relegation, seriously?
We have Ba, Ameobi, Best, Lover and a new striker to come in. We have Ben Arfa, Obertan and Vuckic who can play off a loan striker. We have a much more mobile and creative midfield than we had last season.
You’re seriously telling me that Swansea, Norwich, QPR, Blackburn, Wigan, Wolves, WBA are all happier with their lot…?
100 Dannyo // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM
themichaelowen michael owen
@Joey7Barton has to be the most entertaining person on twitter!
101 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:52 AM
@Felipe – Well said mate. No way we will be relegated. We have some top notch players and should be way happier than in 2009!!!
102 ochytoon // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:52 AM
I’m sure Toinven has been linked with some top clubs before, I think Bayern Munich wanted him at one point and Tottenham maybe? Still, we could be in with a chance depending on how much PSV want for him. I doubt we could get Pieters though because he probably wants to firmly establish himself in the Dutch team and a move abroad could harm his chances
103 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:52 AM
@99 Felipe
Nail on the head…
Does make me laugh that so many of our fans buy into the anti-nufc medias BS… We are a stronger side, more creative, faster, younger and hungrier for success.
We should be minimum of top 10
104 toonfan76 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:53 AM
I can’t say i’m Pro or Anti Ashley cos there are a lot of things that happen at the club that I disagree with but I do think that the team is developing, even evolving into a better all round squad. I for one am glad that we are trying to develop the young reserve players and I look forward to seeing them break through to the first team. I think this was Keegans only error in his first spell in charge of us. All the greatest teams have always had a steady flow of young talent coming through the academy. This is where we will thrive in the next few years in my opinion. Just wish our owner wasn’t such a useless communicator of his intentions, He just goes about hiring and firing without as much as a kiss my a#se for an explaination. Prey to god he is secretly doing the right things cos I can’t see him hurting his own investment cos it would hit him in his weak spot, His Wallet.
105 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:54 AM
@Dannyo – Micheal Owen is such a tw@t!! I wish he would disappear from the press and football… what a donkeys saddle…
106 Ollieh51 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:55 AM
Didn’t Toinven bag a SCREAMER against us in a friendly last season?
107 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:59 AM
@Dannyo // Aug 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM
That midfield is a top 10 midfield definately. But if Enrique leaves, our fullbacks are extremely weak. We don’t have a natural back up left back at the moment. Simpson is a league 1 right back nevernind championship.
I can see us getting whipped by teams that focus their attack on his flanks.
So i agree we have a top 10 quality midfield but we certainly need to strengthen on our defence. And Ba doesn’t seem like he’s going to score 15 goals for us next season. Poor all through the friendlies.
108 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:00 PM
Felipe We have Ba, Ameobi, Best, Lover
seriously to early to be drinking mate
109 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:00 PM
@ichrisho
Come on man lol… you are the poster child of the negative side of nufc.
110 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:01 PM
@Magpietillidie22 – Seriously? A poster boy – well thanks
Nah Come on – I am not that negative… relaism is not always negative…
111 Hertigen // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Toivonen used to be a fan of Newcastle growing up, so say reports anyway.
112 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:02 PM
**Realism
113 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:02 PM
@bigsid 108: I’ll ask again, ‘You’re seriously telling me that Swansea, Norwich, QPR, Blackburn, Wigan, Wolves, WBA are all happier with their lot’???????
114 barryvenison // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Not long now til we’ll be reading the usual tripe from Lee Ryder. Fingers crossed we get some good news.
115 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:04 PM
@Hertigen – So was Berbatov…
116 nobby sol // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM
RM
LB
ST
117 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM
@ilovetoon8788 107: You just lose all credibility for your argument saying things like Simpson is a League 1 RB. That’s just daft FIFA Manager talk and has absolutely no basis in fact.
118 Wandering Geordie // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Titus Bramble’s Brother got sent down for rape today.
Pity it was’nt Ashley cos I feel as if he has done that to us
119 kingkev9 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Rotonda- just wanted to know how players at the age of 29 or 30 are too old? Surely a lot of players are at their peak at this time!?
120 Wandering Geordie // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Joeys having a bit of banter with Oliver Holt from the Daily Mirror on Twitter at the mo
121 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:09 PM
felipe
swansea norwich qpr punching above there weight so they will be happy just to be in the premiership remember what blackpool did last year
blackburn wigan wolves wba will be happy as just survival is what these teams want season on season
as a newcastle fan is this where you see nufc battling against these sort of teams ??
with our budget and fan base/income then its not these teams we should be looking at
122 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:10 PM
@barry 114: Good news, bad news it’ll be tripe whatever, best not to read it!
123 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM
Speaking of Realism – one liner – Where will we come this year in the league? I say 10th.
124 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM
i consider simpson to be a championship rb positional sense is awful the one thing he has got is pace
125 WWJBD // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM
We won’t get relegated but we won’t progress much further up the table
Midtable is where we are and will stay until investment is made…so not under Ashley
126 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:12 PM
Lee Ryder has posted his “work” for today… zzzzzzzzz
127 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:12 PM
@big sid 121: No, not at all, but you’re the one who’s implying we’re in for a relegation battle. I think we have a much stronger squad than when we finished 12th last season so I would be very surprised if we didn’t finish in the top 10. It’s still early days (only second season back in the prem) but I would say our target is to do better than villa and everton and 8th is very possible.
128 Eastander // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:13 PM
@123 I’ll be slightly more positive and say we wont drop a 3-0 lead on the least day of the season and finish 9th
129 nobby sol // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:13 PM
toivonen would be fantastic, Hows about pablo barrera of west ham, he was a sub yesterday and doesnt seem to be in fat sams plans, regular for mexico and could be a bargain at around 2 million, okay he was in-effective last year but we know all to well foreigners need a good 2 years to settle into the division. Jose? Colo?
130 ochytoon // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Felipe
Only with a new striker in though
131 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:15 PM
@Magpietillidie22 – This is AP speaking:
“I’m afraid that is the way it will always be until we are big enough and strong enough to compete with those top teams. We all know we aren’t near them at the moment.” – Realism or Negative?
132 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:15 PM
@big sid 124: Well if you say so. I guess you know better than the pro’s!
133 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:15 PM
@ ichrisho
Well you cant say – calling Beardo a liar for being positive, claiming we are weaker despite playing no competitive games and putting down every bit of positivity on the thread – is realism pal lol
Because its not. Its straight negativity lol
134 Ollieh51 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:16 PM
May be having a conversation with myself but here’s the goal I remembered @ 105!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAlbB5ZarNs
135 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:17 PM
@ochytoon 130: Either that or Best to come through but yes, a new striker would definitely be the icing on the cake for this window…
136 ochytoon // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Felipe
Definatley, I have a feeling we might do better than expected this season and I think Ba is gonna get a fair amount of assists
137 shearerno9 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:20 PM
villa will be a hard team to beat this year and the goals from bent will surely have them hovering around 10+ all season
138 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:20 PM
New striker
New centre back
New left back.
Would love a right back aswell……
139 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:21 PM
@131 ichrisho
Thats realism. We are not the newcastle of old… football has changed and moved forward.
We cant go out and buy OR attract the kind of stars that a Man U, Man C or Chelsea can get. But thats not the end of the world, thats my point.
We have bought some v.good players not just this window but the likes of tiote and ben arfa… its not negative to tel it like it is. We are no longer a top 4 team lol #fact
140 WWJBD // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:21 PM
Xisco and Ranger could come through this year as well maybe Airey will pop up scoring 30 goals….and I will crap gold bars come January when we are top of the league
141 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:21 PM
Whats the latest on Obertan???
Is he having a medical today??
142 Spike // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Relegation? Pap.
We have an exciting midfield, we’ll play some good passing football, we’ll entertain, we’ll end up mid table, but with a striker who can put the ball in the net we can go top half and maybe even into the euro spots.
Relegation. Wash your mouth out
143 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:22 PM
@wwjbd 125: ‘The club has to clean it’s nose’. That means we can invest the money we make once the debts are taken into account. There’s only Man City and Liverpool who aren’t doing that but even Man Utd and Arsenal have to. Just that they’ve been in the CL for years and have much greater income.
Leeds went bust trying to catch them, we almost did the same and Spurs are having a good go with Harry in charge of the purse.
Outside the Top 5 we can compete but we have to get there bit by bit. If you want a sugardaddy to buy our way straight into the top 4 you’re right it ain’t going to happen with Mike.
144 Andy // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:23 PM
2 day medical he is having belfast. Can anyone else get tom cleverley being in the england squad? He’s had 1 good half
145 Indian Magpie // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM
@135
Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Icing on the cake……..
wherre is the cake?
146 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM
@Magpiewilldie22 – I am a positive supporter and will always be.
I didnt say Beardo was lying. I didnt claim that we were weaker and I dont put down the positivity here – I just give people some realistic replies to basic shi5e written on here. Lets be positive together alright? I think we are going to be 10th this year. Positive right?
147 Indian Magpie // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Andy,
Fabio capello puckers up Manutd ass, he is an idiot
148 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:25 PM
@Magpietillidie22 – Its all the same. There is no negativity here – I am just speaking the truth. the same line as the manager and you it seems.
149 barryvenison // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:25 PM
M’bengue still on the radar. I don’t care about the radar, sign him now, regardless of whether Enrique stays or not we need a LB. We seem to have a lot of players on this so called “radar” as opposed to in our squad.
150 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:27 PM
@Indian Magpie 145: If you can’t see that Ba, Cabaye, Marveaux, Obertan and Abeid in for Nolan and Routledge is a good window then you’re just being negative for the sake of it. Dream on…
151 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:29 PM
fellipe
dont understand where the stronger squad comes from
we have a better starting 11 on paper but if we get 2/3 injuries from the starting 11 then we will be in the pooo
152 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:29 PM
I like that guy Cleverley.Looked good for Wigan last season.
153 WWJBD // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Sugardaddy to buy our way to the top nope not after that but a intelligent owner who invests in medical staff and a scouting network
And us cleaning our nose? Our debt is solely to Ashley at a interest free rate that we are told won’t be collected until we are sold. The running costs of the club are apparently very much under control now and our income has hugely jumped now we are back in the PL so why isn’t the wonder windfall of Carrolls money being spent?
154 dave 1961 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Magpietillidie22 @89 he’s lining himself up for Pardew’s job no more than that.
155 Dannyo // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:30 PM
I take it we’re close to loosing Enrique, considering Pardew was in Holland yesterday to watch PSV.
Would he have taken his time to do that otherwise u think?
156 Indian Magpie // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Can some one please tell me
why do we need to scout a full dutch international. we should be worried whether he will join us or not
157 Dannyo // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:33 PM
@WWJBD
Lol, dont forget to give us your location once u start crapping them golden bars…
Remeber we went down in the Championship keeping most of our first team, and not making too much money on those we lost.
I do not think our cashflow is that much under control just yet…
158 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:36 PM
@ 154 dave 1961
lmao no, no hes not…
@ 146 & 148 Ichrisho
ok pal lets all be positive together but, dont deny you were being negative lol, you have put down positivity from myself and others.
But Yeah im on the wavelength that we arent a top 4 club and wont be for a long time and breaking the top 6 should be our target for the foreseeable future.
Once we “wipe our nose” financially, become self sufficient and the FFP rules come in we are going to be on even keel with most of the premiership. But right now we have a squad who IF they play to their max, their ability week in week out will def finish top 10 and push the top 6 contenders all the way.
If we get another striker in it will look a whole lot brighter too
159 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:37 PM
If Enrique isn’t sold by Saturday.
I would just say,Your staying here,End of story.
It wont happen like,He will be sold on the last few days of the window probly.
160 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:38 PM
@ 151 big sid
We have a stronger squad this year because youth has improved and stepped up in the form of Vuckic, Tav, Sameobi, Moyo and Fergie and weve brought in Abeid who looks to already be pushing the first team…
The squad looks much healthier and the youth was ALWAYS the plan for this regime
161 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:41 PM
@big sid 151: Simple really, just read my post @150
162 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:46 PM
does anyone think these fifa rules will happen as i cant see it myself
what have all the elite teams got in common ?????
massive debts
so does this mean we will be in the champions league when these new rules come in playing with arsenal as all the rest of the clubs are in debt
cant see it myself how these rules can be implemented
163 Indian Magpie // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Give pardew credit, he is trying to convice Enrique to stay till the very end.
164 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:48 PM
No chance of them rules ever coming In.
165 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:48 PM
@wwjbd 153: I guess the £70m we lost when we got relegated might have something to do with it not to mention all the debts he inherited when he took the club over. Our income hasn’t hugely jumped, it’s up from when we were in the championship but our average attendances are 3-4k off what they were before we were relegated and we’ve had a global recession hit sales of merchandise, not to mention the boycott by certain sections of the fanbase.
166 dave 1961 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:50 PM
I will make this as simple as I can, newly promoted clubs, have been promoted because they often have a greater ability to score goals than the teams below them that’s why on many occasions they do quite well in the first season, add to this they often have better defenders too. in contrast this is exactly the opposite to us, at the moment our defence leaks like a sieve, and we cant score goals, so far ba’s been poor, and I can assure all that if we don’t find goals we will be relegated. yes Cabaye looks a fantastic find but Obertan’s a clown and as bas as smith most of the youtube videos are taking the p**s out of him, he might get bums of seats but not for the reason the fan’s want, our whole season hangs on the next 23 days & finding a goal scorer.
167 shearerno9 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:50 PM
@ 157
correct me if im wrong but did we not make about 20 odd million??? 9/10 on bassong depending on the report you read, 9 on martins – 3 on duff – 3 on beye and a few hundred k on geremi?? not to metion the loan fees?
168 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:51 PM
think you live in a different world to me when you talk about our youth team mate apart from vuckic (needs a big year after injury)and ferguson the rest are pants
not seen anything of abeid so reserve judgement on him
169 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:51 PM
@162 Big Sid
Well they are happening… The big leagues have 3 years to bring debts down from when the rules come in BUT when the rules come in they still can only spend what they make.
So basically look at how man city are getting around it… they have signed a sponsorship deal for the naming of the stadium which nets them 200m… yeah thats not a typo lol
So basically it all will come down to profit. Thats why MA wants to bring the bills down. Next year when we are self sufficient we should be able to compete for players because they wont be able to get the same kind of wages and fees as before and Man City cant sign EVERYONE so yeah outside a few clubs itll look more of an even playing field which is great news
170 MacToon // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Nolan and Routledge out, not forgetting the CB cover by Campbell and our starting LB Jose wanting out and Joey training with reserveres err sorry development squad and no replacement for Carroll… yet.
Just pick out certain facts to suit your own arguements why don’t you.
171 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:54 PM
@168
Clearly we do live in a diff world lol because all the players i have named look great and if given opportunity will continue to develop in the right way
172 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:56 PM
@shearerno9: I don’t think we made anything on Martins but regardless of that, none of us have a clue what the books look like, we know the club had massive debts when Ashley took over, we know we lost a lot more when we got relegated. We know we made some from player sales including £35m for Carroll but as for what the balance looks like now, again none of us have a clue. Ashley owns the club, he is a very shrewd businessman who has been successful at anything he’s done. Can’t see him trying to do anything different with us.
173 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:56 PM
@170
Nolan has been replaced with better (cabaye). Routledge hardly ever played and then went on loan… (forget that?) Campbell was ridiculously bad, so bad he made only a handful of appearances each where everybody said he shouldnt be near the first team.
Jose and Barton havent left and if and when they do, yes of course they will need to be replaced.
No facts have been left out
174 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 12:56 PM
so if man city can sign a 200mill deal then so can chelsea man u liverpool barcelona so really these new rules are a waste of time there will alway be waya round it for the big boys as we all know money talks
175 Magpietillidie22 // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:02 PM
@174
big sid
not true. Look at the wages Man city pay out… 200mill may just about cover those lol
Either way the clubs beneath man u, man city, and chelsea will all be closer to gether and those clubs cant buy everyone
176 MacToon // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:05 PM
So because in your opinion Campbell “was ridiculously bad, so bad he made only a handful of appearances”
@ you
he should be forgotten about
Lets also forget about Jose and Joey, they obviously are not a problem.
Everything’s hunky dory @ SJP
177 ochytoon // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:05 PM
Just as a heads up, that 200 mil sponsorship deal is being investigated by the FA after half the teams in the EPL reported them. Possible points dock
178 Felipe // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:09 PM
@Mactoon: No, he should be counted but if you count Campbell (players retiring) going out then you have to count the younguns coming through. We have Tav and Kadar who both play at CB.
179 dave 1961 // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:10 PM
Felipe @ 172 you know because Llambias told you so we had 379m debt when ashley took over the rest of the debt was caused by Ashley himself, just like the fantastic buys he made Smith, Xisco just to name too but I could go on but what’s the point, our biggest loss seems to be the sports direct sponsorship money, oh I forgot we don’t get any do we, we get no money just the bills for the hoardings, and the monstrosity on the Gallowgate roof.
180 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:14 PM
I think that NUFC have done some canny business. We now have near 1st choice French Midfield. Argentina most underratted defender as Captain and the 4th best striker in Europe (pre-2008) not toon-shabby.
181 MacToon // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:14 PM
So our CB’s for this season are?
Our left back position does look like it will be resolved… well hopefully, one way or another.
Some of our youngsters do look promising but we do look like we’re going to have to rely on them rather than feed them in gently.
182 big sid // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:28 PM
ichriso
what drugs you on
1st choice french midfield your having a laugh apart from cabaye (who is not an autonatic as only played 4 times)marv never played for france national team ben arfa played once for france in 2 years and that was a sub
4th best striker in europe pre 2008 we are now in 2011 mate!!!! wake up
183 bills-son // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:34 PM
HBA and Gosling were never 1st team squad players last season – add n Cabaye, Marveuax, Abeid, Ba and Obertan and that’s 7 first team squad in and two, Nolan and Routledge, out.
We’ve also got Ferguson and Vukic coming through and we will almost certainly sign another striker and a LB.
That would make 10/11 extra first team squad players to last season with 1 out currently. If Barton and/or Enrique leave it will a loss – yes. But not the trajedy some think. If one or both stay we will have a cracking squad.
Like someone slse said – compare our squad to the three promoted teams + Blackburn, Wigan, Fulham, West Brom, Wolves and even Villa – and talk of relegation is ridiculously negative thinking.
184 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM
@bigsid – Sorry I will. I will ensure that I wake up and also that I write down what i got wrong and try to improve on it.
185 ichrisho // Aug 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM
Obafemi for NUFC
Come on home son.
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