The Latest On Erik Pieters Transfer

Newcastle fans may have to wait a few more days and even into next Wednesday, when the transfer window closes,  before any new players arrive on Tyneside.

Erik Pieters – stalemate on the transfer 

There seems to be a stalemate developed with Newcastle’s move for Dutch International Erik Pieters, with the Tyneside club unwilling to meet the asking price of his club PSV.

And it looks like Newcastle have given up on Lyon’s French left-back Cissokho,  because the asking price is just too high for a thrifty Newcastle.

Alan Pardew thinks there is some brinkmanship going on with the Pieters deal as he said today:

“I think there is a little of brinkmanship going on and I think that’s understandable,”

“If clubs are resigned to losing a player they want the best possible price so when a transfer becomes close, suddenly a lot of other clubs and the press seem to know about it. And all sorts of accusations fly around.”

“But when you cut through it there will be a deal made, and we’re hoping to do the two deals we need. I think the board know where I am. I want two positions filled before the end of the window, and I think we’ll do that.”

The accusations Alan is talking about are that Newcastle have been reported to FIFA for their pursuit of Sochaux striker Modibo Maiga, and Alan’s former club Charlton Athletic have reported Newcastle to the Premier League,  related to their approach for goalkeeper Rob Elliot.

We reported this yesterday and in both cases it seems Newcastle talked to the player without the other club’s permission and before a fee was agreed between the two clubs.

But Newcastle’s intransigence on paying out say £1M more for their targets, when they have so much money still in the bank from their outgoing transfers this year, which adds up to about £48M, seems a little puzzling, especially when things are getting so late in the transfer market.

But of course that’s exactly what PSV and Sochaux will be thinking too.

But that’s where we stand today with the Erik Pieters deal, and it’s all getting a little boring.

Let’s hope there’s breakthrough very soon.

Comments welcome.

53 comments so far

  • drongo

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #1

    If we end up getting Pieters for 4 on the last day, instead of 7 last week – will people still think we’ve been strung along….?

  • drongo

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #2

    oh, and 1st – might need to go and relieve myself – too much excitement

  • Tiote

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #3

    2 right ed. Really bored of this story draggin on nw

  • ichrisho

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #4

    I think this is a desperate time for every team… 10 days to go and still many players could come and go… I think PSV are well peeved that Pieters wants to leave… and espeically for England… wouldnt go down well… if we get him – he will be a star no doubt… Maiga is not right for us in my opinion – in PES 2011 he is soooooo slow and Ameobi beats him for pace… 🙂

  • Graeme

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #5

    Yeah, the excitement over the LB is underwhelming – but its a hell of a lot more exciting than our 8 Month search for the elusive NUMBER NINE!!!!!!!!

    How can a management team who profess such high intentions, be so inept at doing their job?? It beggars belief that with the money NUFC have at their disposal (£40 million +) that we cant get in just ONE top quality striker? It would make the difference between trying to finish top 10 and fighting for top 6!!

  • Trent Toon

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #6

    Drongo the thing is that prices usually go up on the last day soo in the end we could be paying 2-3 million of sheer desperation.

  • ichrisho

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #7

    The Chronicle is in rehash mode… boring mid-week…

  • davybtoon

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #8

    teams kno we hav money r trying to get alot more than whats being reported probably

  • Eastander

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #9

    @ 1 yes they will because i can guarantee you if we sign him for 4m you’ll get people saying he’s not that good a player if we got him for 4

    Yet he would have been a great signing and a positive move if we paid 7m for him

  • wattos

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #10

    Is it just me, but with this drawn out pursuit of a striker and left back, I’m really concerned that we are very thin on the ground in terms of the centre back positions. Yes we’ve got Mike Williamson in reserve but who else after that as a recognised centre half? For a £2m I’m sure we could get a solid squad player from the championship. Knowing our luck Taylor and Colo will get crocked in training the day after the window closes!

  • P.I.

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #11


    I would agree ‘IF’ we do end up getting Pieters on the last day for 4mil then yeah I would say business well done, but it seems to me like it’s all smoke screens anyway.
    All these deals we are supposed to be in for are all stalling, and the scraps of information we are able to attain tell us each deal is approx 1mil more than we want to pay. That seems like a right load of old rubbish to me.
    Closer to the truth is probably a scenario where newcastle have claimed an interest, but placed a stupidly low bid (as Keegan said in court) and havent contacted the club again with an increased bid.

    Lyon want 10m for Cissoko, we probably bid 4m
    PSV want 6-7 for Pieters, we probably bid 2m
    PSG want 8m for Erdinç, we probably bid 4m

  • drongo

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #12

    @ Graeme – I feel if we sign a specialist LB we will be looking between 12th and 8th. LB and a decent striker pushing Euopa league, no further signings we’ll stay in the league but will have some worrying times.
    All depends whether we see 10m spent on a striker plus his wages (say 16m for 4 yr deal) as being more important than 16m closer to break even and no more fatty…..


    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #13

    Ashley must understand that in order for this club to progress this season we need at least a left back and a center forward both of good quality. It doesn’t matter if that will cost us £5m or £20M. Although I would prefer to get them at the lower end of that estamation. We need to get these deals concluded. I’m sick of hearing about this £35M lets get these two in and end this transfer window on a high with a decent squad. One which I truly believe is good enough for a top ten finish.

  • gorgonzola

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #14

    Superb news leaves enough time for another team to HIJACK the transfer….. Ashley out….

  • redondo77

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #15

    I think we will sign Pieters, maybe 5.5 or 6mil

  • redondo77

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #16

    and from prev post, barton will stay, to get new contract that he wanted, all he needs to do is apologize. that’s all

  • ichrisho

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #17

    @15 – Think he needs to do more than just apologise,,,

  • tom tomb

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #18

    Wattos, totally agree I have been banging on about it for ages! I would feel a bit better if they signed the 2 cenre backs they had on trial.

    We will sign- someone like Warnock on the 31st, and perhaps a striker on loan again on the 31st! Guaranteed 100%.

  • ilovetoon8788

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #19

    i agree most on you. its a boring week where articles are rephrased and rewrriten and made to look like news. booooring.

  • thebionicMAG

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #20

    Sorry I just cant see us signing anyone else. I just get the feeling its going to be the same as before *we tried so hard but it wasn’t to be” etc. I get not over spending on players I really do but for a decent striker the bench march has to start around 10 million. With 35 banked for Carroll we should not be scared to push up to 15 if need be, expecting the final bill to be 20 when wages are added on. And what do you know we still have 15 left…

  • wattos

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #21

    Tom Tomb, lets hope they do, one of the trialists knocked in two goals in the last game, so might solve our striker problems as well!

  • ulsterexile

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #22

    Can beat my son on scalectrix driving mini whilst he has F1 Ferrari but doesnt mean it will happen in reality!!
    Think you need to realise that Mr Carr knowe exactly the qualities we need in a striker! In Carr we trust!!

  • Graeme

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #23

    Drongo – but why would anyone settle for “Mid Table mediocrity” when, with a little bit of effort and INVESTMENT (that means spending money on the team Mike) we could be challenging for top 6?

    FCB has made a profit on every single Transfer Window since he took over – its time to strengthen the team again. With the players we have brought in, I have no doubt we are a much more skilful team than we were last season. The addition of a “Good Quality” striker, maybe 15 – 20 goals a season, would make a huge difference to the team.

    The knock -on effect on players like Best, Sameobi would be immense and the buzz it would give the fans – FCB would get his money back on shirt sales over the duration of the strikers contract anyway!! NET cost to FCB – NIL.

  • tom tomb

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #24

    Wattos- Ha ha they have probably signed and sold him already then!
    It’s funny how they released their names, as they normally just put ‘a triallist’ or the likes. Although they are so incompetent, they probably did it accidentally!

  • thud and blunder

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #25

    Sorry to be negative guys but we wont sign anyone.

    Pardew’s said he is prepared to let the deals go down to the wire, but hopes it they will happen soon.

    That for me says we wont budge on how much we will offer. And we wont sign anyone

  • drongo

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #26

    @ Graeme – £16m on shirt sales and turnstiles…?


    Dont get me wrong Im not defending fatty, but I do think we need to take a balanced view. We could spend nothing and Fatty may be gone next summer, or, we could spend 10m plus commit 6 in wages and be stuck with him for another year waiting for the hoped for increase in prize money and hoped for Europa league money from having said striker in the team.

    I dont think its as straight forward as we’d like – ideally Id want £20m spent on Sturridge and fatty to sling his hook tomorrow – but – unfortunately that wont happen.

  • Waldo P. Barnstormer

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #27

    One massive problem with anything the fans want or expect from to club is that we will only get it if it is exactly in the plans and thoughts of Ashley. For reasons he and some of the fans are to blame, we know have an owner who has no intention of progression at cost.

    What I mean is he will settle for survival while streamlining costs. High earners will be disposed of where possible with younger, cheaper players brought in. So far I am happy with swapping Nolan for cabaye, Routledge for Obertan, Xisco for Ba. But Carroll and Enrique still require solid replacements. But if we attain europa league it will be more by good look than good judgement on Ashley’s part. He is looking to get the club to operate out of credit with no monatary input from himself. The state of world finance means there is not many people interested in buying a club especially one with fans as vocal as ours in telling the owner what we have done to date.

    We are going to have to put up with this for the long haul till either the world finances sort themselves out or we are lucky enough to someone take an interest in buying Ashley out, and hope to god it ain’t someone like Venkys.

  • redondo77

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #28

    everyone including media are all assuming. we can only wait until deadline come. no use speculating our methods on transfer, because we are not there and we don’t really know what’s really going on.

  • catchy in norway

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #29

    check this out,,

    where we should have finished last season, some guy has has went through all the games and reworked the table

  • redondo77

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #30

    too many news and rumours going on, dunno which one is true. now we are also being linked with M’beque again and Nicky Shorey

  • Pieter Piper

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #31

    Sniped this name incase we do sign Pieter.

  • hadthetshirt

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #32

    @22 ulsterexile.”Ichrisho
    Can beat my son on scalectrix driving mini whilst he has F1 Ferrari but doesnt mean it will happen in reality!!”
    hehe that made me laugh,but spot on.There’s too many on here that play football games and believe it’s real.What none of these games realise is it’s ashley there dealing with.Blimey I’m sure someone will have bought Rooney for 5 million but it wont happen in the real world.
    ashley is a gambler and he is betting the 2 clubs fold and he thinks he has the aces.Lets hope he is lucky this time.
    Read elsewhere Erdinc now wants a move.

  • Graeme

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #33

    Drongo, Obviously its not just shirts etc – its also what the effect a new striker would have on the club in general.

    If we get a “Name” it lifts the whole profile of the club, it lifts the other players, it lifts the fans. If that boost in confidence takes us from 12th to 8th thats about £3 million from the league alone. If it gets us to an FA cup semi-final, its worth about £5 million; If it gets us up to 6th or 7th and into Europa League – !!!!!!!!

    The return on the investment becomes more than the actual cost – the whole place would be buzzing again, like it did when KK and SBR made the investments work.

  • davo

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #34

    You don’t have to know exactly whats going on to KNOW whats going on!
    The owner is running the club in such a way that we will hopefully stay in the premier league at the bare minimum financial cost, there is no ambition to try to achieve anythinghigher than that on his behalf. We will continue to sell our best players at a profit and get the high wage earners off the wage bill.

  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Aug 24, 2011 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #35

    Typical sh*te from Fat Tw*8t & Lamears* we’ll p*ss about and end up with no one with no recognised LB & short of a goalscorer but because we beat S*nderland then everything is okay….NOT

  • drongo

    Aug 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #36

    @ Grame – thats exactly my point – there would be increased revenue from having a better striker and better results, we all know that.
    But that money comes later – which means longer under the current regime. I think the question people need to answer is would they rather be tight fisted now, and the fat one leaves sooner, or he spends 15-20m now and hangs around a couple of seasons longer to recoup the money (from prize money, cup run, europe etc).
    Personally I am undecided. When SBR and KK were here we had an owner who for the most part we liked, and wanted to stay so it didnt really matter that he would need to be around to see the benefits of his initial spending.
    Now most of us cant wait for the owner to clear off – it does put things in a different light.

    Id be keen to know what most people would prefer? Investment now and longer with Fatty, or try and cobble through this year, we break even, and he goes next June….?

    I take it you’re in the camp of spennd now and put up with him for longer?

  • wingspan

    Aug 24, 2011 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #37

    didnt we offer 10m for Gamiero?? So they were willing to spend a few weeks back. Or it seems they are only willing to spend on the right player or what the club thinks the player is worth, which in a way in commendable, not wanting to get ripped off. But unfortunately football is a bit of a fantasy world and correct value is never represented in real life (20m for henderson!!)
    I think we are willing to spend good money but only on the correct players, gone ar the days of ove paying which in a way is a good thing but unfortunately in this modern footbasll age you almost deffinately have to overpay if u want/need a player and FCB doesnt seem to realise that. And we NEED a LB a CB and a STRIKER! So sort it u douche

  • Graeme

    Aug 24, 2011 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #38

    Drongo, Nothing you or I or any of the other 50,000+ fans say or think is of any interest to FCB. He owns 100% of NUFC and can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants to. On that basis we have to work on the idea that we are stuck with him for the foreseeable future.

    In which case the only thing that matters is how the team perform and what we can achieve on the pitch. What I said in my last post gives FCB what he wants – to a large extent, but also gives us, the fans, what we want, to a large extent.

    Its all we are ever going to get until such time as FCB sells up and moves out. To me, that day cant come soon enough, but in the meantime, we could hope to watch a very good team actually achieving things on the pitch.

    In the circumstances, I’ll settle for that, until the situation changes!! Nothing else I can hope for mate!!

  • Felipe

    Aug 24, 2011 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #39

    @Graeme 33: Yeah, I bet Ashley never thought of that one! He made £2billion in business just by pure luck and nothing else….

  • ichrisho

    Aug 24, 2011 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #40

    @ 32 “hehe that made me laugh,but spot on.There’s too many on here that play football games and believe it’s real” – ever hear of having a laugh…


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