Newcastle Would Have Lost This Game Last Season


There’s no doubt that the Newcastle defense is a lot more resilient than last season and also has a lot more luck.

The two managers shake hands last night before the game

How much those two things go together we don;t know but there is that saying that you make your own luck, and you have to applaud some of the performances for the Newcastle defense this season – they just never give up.

Newcastle manager Alan Pardew was down to earth after the game and didn’t pull any punches, and he had this to day this morning to the local Newcastle press:

“It was always going to be a difficult game because of the buzz around the place and the new players that have come into QPR.”

“It was a Monday night game on TV and it is never easy to come to QPR.” “We didn’t win enough second balls or pick up the pieces to get control of the game.”

“We lost in the centre of midfield.”  “Yohan is trying to find his feet in there and he found it particularly difficult.” “The two strikers that we had on the pitch probably didn’t help them.”

“There were a lot of things that weren’t functioning for us.” “What did function was our resilience, our spirit and our back four again.”

“We have another great result.” “One of the players said in the dressing room that this was a game we’d have lost last season.”

“We didn’t have the resilience or the belief in our defending that we have this season so far.” “Our exuberance and flair was off key and sometimes that happens.”

“But we will look to improve that.”

How Newcastle fans view the season so far is whether you look at the glass to be half full or half empty.

On the positive side of things, Pardew and the Newcastle coaches seem to have the defense very well organized this season, and they have done very well indeed, while often being under intense pressure.

And we are still having some players bed into the side, and Gabriel Obertan  showed some good touches at times last night, and Sylvain Marveaux looked decent enough when he was brought on in the last 10 minutes, and it was good to see Sammy Ameobi make another appearance, however short it was.

4th place cannot be bad, and while you can argue with some justification that Newcastle have carried a lot of luck in their first four league games of the season, we’ll gladly take 8 points from our first four games.

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Howay The Lads!!



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240 comments so far

  • GeordieToon89

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #1

    dont agree with what Pardew is saying about the strikers mind.. well Ameobi yes but a thought Best was one the best players on the pitch for us, battled and battled and was all over the place tracking back the lot but a suppose he aint going to just single out Shola

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  • Indian Magpie

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #2

    You should have Changed thing pardew,

    Good managers make changes even in the first half

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  • CaptainGeordie

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #3

    I love how Leon Best was getting angry with Shola, Nicely done Besty !!!

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  • Indian Magpie

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #4

    Man UTD – 18 goals
    New UTD – 3 goals

    Not comparing but still 3 goals in 4 games, not all of it is of any strikers fault but still.

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  • thai-mag

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #5

    we only got draw because of luck I think we have used all our seasons luck up in first 4 games we will get stuffed when luck goes against us by worse teams than .QPR

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  • WWJBD

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #6

    I fail to see how this article title can be justified. Last season we would of had Carroll, Jose, Nolan and Barton all starting

    So that’s a better striker a CAM a right mid who can put a cross in and a fantastic LB. We would also of had a strict game plan…so imo no we wouldn’t of lost this game last season

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  • bristolmagpie

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #7

    The only reason we did not lose was because qpr could not finish. It was nothing to with a resilient defence. Better strikers and we would of lost that 2 or 3 nil. our defence was all over the place especially simpson and ryan taylor

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  • AshtreeKid

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #8

    thought defence wasn’t too bad, raylor was crap and the midfield were being over run, whats happened to tiote this year?

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  • Indian Magpie

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #9

    Ameobi returns from injury he starts, lets hope pardew does the same with HBA, doubt though

    in india when i saw ameobi starting, i almost puked in my mouth and it went down again.

    RAYLOR is starting because pardew feels obligated after his goal against the USELESS and he is free kick specialist

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  • Angryman the Angry fan

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #10

    Bristol Mag
    I think you are doing our defence an injustice.
    Nearly everything that went wrong defensively last night was through Ryan Taylor!!

    If someone has free roam down that flank, it will always be difficult for the worlds best defenders to keep a clean sheet!!

    I thought simpson looked better than in recent weeks, a bit more confident, and tarrabt had to keep cutting in field, traore went off after having one decent run dowm that side!!

    I have been saying on here for weeks Ryan Taylor is an average player, a tryer, and being played out of position would soon show him up……… right AGAIN ima afraid!!

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  • Angryman the Angry fan

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #11

    WWJBD
    I totally agree!!

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  • planb

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #12

    Pardew isnt a good manager lets get that clear hes Ashelys PR man paid to face the press with a toothy grin and a jokey one liner sacked at westham,charlton and southampton and before christmas from Newcastle

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  • ganiyu

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #13

    i think pardew is favouring some players who dont deserve their places.
    Offering shola a player who would never improve a contract shows he has no clue.

    Shola pls dont come to nigeria or we blow you with bombs on your arrival @ muritala airport

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  • Angryman the Angry fan

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #14

    Ganiyu
    Disgraceful!!!!!!!!

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  • AshtreeKid

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #15

    planb, pardew is a good manager.

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  • bristolmagpie

    Sep 13, 2011 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #16

    ANGRY MAN, simpson did not even look good in the championship, gets turned to easily. Alan pardew showed last night just how much of a poor manager he is. Any other manager would of changed things at half time last night. If we bought messi and rooney pardew would still pick ameobi

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  • WWJBD

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #17

    Angryman
    I must admit I agree with what u have said on our defence. Simmo was worth his start last night and both Colo and Saylor did well enough.

    Raylor however can’t defend for crap does try though so give him that but out classed by SWP easily

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  • Scottishmag1

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #18

    I agree with Angry, at the game the amount of anger at the space raylor gave away was ridiculous..

    I would stick him at RB to see if he copes any better there and stick Santon and RB and Simpson a rest

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  • ganiyu

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #19

    tiote isnt playing well because pardew is forcing him to play a more creative role which he isnt used to.

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  • Yohan4

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #20

    over all a poor performance but good result
    Defence (bar raylor) where good especially Simpson who was my man of the match (never thought id say that) hope he plays like that every game.
    cabay was not in the game as they where over ran in midfield and our passing was terrable so didnt get the ball (strange as his supposed to be the deep sitting playmaker)
    Tiote is not playing well at the moment – think he is trying to do far too much and should stick to what he is good at.
    Raylor is not a left back and it will cost us in the near future if Santon is not brought in (and plays well)
    Best was a close second for man of the match, worked his socks off and was the only one who looked a threat.
    shola was shocking and should be kept on the bench and only start againg the mackems.

    Pardew needs to change this – raylor cant keep playing LB and Shola cant keep starting and he should have a serious chat with tiote and get him to keep it simple also get the ball to cabay more.

    Rant over (for now)

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  • AshtreeKid

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #21

    agree with WWJBD

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  • AshtreeKid

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #22

    yohan4 agree with your account

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  • WWJBD

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #23

    Ganiyu
    Where do u get that Tiote is having to play a more creative role?

    Imo he is playing crap because he dances round the ball too long recently and is off the pace of the game

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  • ganiyu

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #24

    marveaux and sammy looked like light weight.
    Simpson is average i wasnt expecting more that what i saw last night.i still feel the problem is with the wingers.they didnt do much as i expected them to.
    I think santon should take the place of obertan cos the lad didnt look confident to drive in tl the box.

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  • kevymartins

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #25

    were very lucky dj campbell did’nt start or it woulda been a 6-0 loss

    villa will hammer us

    you can tell that pardew is trying to change tiote…maby its because of cards?? fook it if he gets a ban we have guthre there like

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  • Angryman the Angry fan

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #26

    Marveaux and Sammy looked lightweight? In their 10minute and 3 minute cameos??

    Lords alive Ganiyu!!

    You gonna blow them up aswell???

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  • derekm

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #27

    Can’t believe anyone can criticise Ryan Taylor for anything to be honest. With two struggling in the middle against three there was no protection for him playing in a position that he is completely unfamiliar with! Anytime Jonas lost possession Taraabt got the ball straight to wright phillips to play on an obvious weak spot. All things considered the doom mongers that said Barton being given the heave ho has’nt weakened us spirit – wise, Ben Arfa to spark us soon and hopefully Santon to come into the left back position, and we are starting off very sweetly thank you very much.

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  • kevymartins

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #28

    were lucky dj campbell did’nt start or we woulda go hammerd..

    you can tell pardew is trying to change tiote…maby its the cards??we have guthrie there for cover so fcuk it an let him do his job

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  • Yohan4

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #29

    Ganiyu – our winger could play better but its not as simple as that as at the moment giti get forward and there is no one up in support, our passing ans moving is not good and we go from a good through ball to Guti with him bombimg forward and the team cant keep up with him. They need to pass the ball and work space forwards the the wingers will have an option and a corner will not be considered a good end to the move. I would like to see Ober go past people though he looks like he could be a player but needs to skin some fullbacks

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  • WWJBD

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #30

    Santon should replace Obertan?

    Have I miss read that?

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  • Currytoon

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #31

    Our team away from home should be this:

    ______________Krul______________

    Simmo_____Colo____Saylor____Santon

    ________Tiote____Cabaye__________
    Gutti_______Gosling_______Marveaux

    _____________Best_______________

    That gives a really strong centre midfield, with Cabaye and Gosling swapping about when necessary. I think Marveaux is a better player than Obertan so lets give him a start.

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  • arcarius

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #32

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  • Minato

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #33

    There were a few minor positives to take from last night but ultimately we didn’t really look like we were going to score. By half time I was confident we would go up a gear and get a goal however by full time I found myself content with a draw. While the defence was generally good I just think it was their (QPR’s) inability to hit the target that earned us a point..still think we can beat Villa with a little change around in personnel. I’d like to see Santon replace Raylor..the danger came from his side all night long. Even though Jonas was below par I’d like to see him on the right with Marveux on the left, Best and Ba up top. Overall disappointed but definitely could have been a worse result.

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #34

    thai-mag #5 you make your own luck as a famous golfer once said the more I practice the luckier I get. Hard work on the defence is paying off okay QPR missed some sitters but that’s their problem not ours. The two goal-line clearances is part of a defenders job. Be grateful for the 8 points we’ve got.

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  • Yohan4

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #35

    Kevy -if Pardew is the reason for tiotes bad form (not saying he is) then your right id take the old tiote for 5 games then loose him for a few no problem, 5 great games and 3 from guthrie/goslin is better than 7 poor ones.

    ive been very supportive of Pardew and I do think he has had is tactics right for the first 3 and the cup game but he need to make some changes and have some serious conversations to get it right, hoping he does as I enjoyed having faith in my manager!

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  • Minato

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #36

    @ Currytoon

    ______________Krul______________

    Simmo_____Colo____Saylor____Santon

    ________Tiote____Cabaye__________
    Gutti_______Gosling_______Marveaux

    _____________Best_______________

    Eventually Arfa in the Gosling Slot and that could be a very solid away team

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  • ginkoh

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #37

    I think it’s nor fair for our players to tell we got 8 pts because of luck ! they played the sock off and deserved to get more credit. You need ability and determination then the luck will come.

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  • Yohan4

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #38

    Currytoon – with Benny out this also my favourite team but for home and away (more 433 againt weaker ops but with the option to go back to 4231 at anytime) this is ofcourse if Santon preformes (which I think he will)

    when Benny is back Gosline moves to the bench!

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  • Currytoon

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #39

    Minato, Yohan4 – Yep agreed, wheny Benny is back he replaces Gosling.

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  • John

    Sep 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #40

    Thought Cabaye was fairly poor last nite, i wasn’t nolan’s biggest fan but got himself into the box on the end of things badly lacking last nite cant wait to HBA bk we mite be a better team wen hes bk, didnt see this new tecnical/better football stlye team pardew raves about it was long ball all night we made QPR look like Barca at times, Obertan needs to buck up when he got the ball he never looked to take on the defender thats wat wins games getting behind the defence and crosses in the box I was not happy at all.

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