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Santon Set-Back But Injury Not Related To Past Problems

5:52 pm, Friday, September 16th, 2011 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 78 Comments

It seems that Newcastle have tried to play down concerns about Davide Santon’s knee injury.

Davide Santon – injury not related to previous ones

Davide picked up the knee injury yesterday in training, and it was said last night that he would be having key-hole surgery, since the injury was thought to be related to some cartilage damage.

However, in the local papers today in Newcastle,  it seems the injury may not be as bad as first thought, and we’re not sure whether the surgery will still be necessary.

But  since it’s minimally invasive surgery, we suppose it will go ahead early next week, but after Newcastle medics have looked more closely at the Italian International’s right knee.

Not surprisingly, Santon has been ruled out of  tomorrow’s  game against Aston Villa, but Newcastle have today issued a statement and have said the injury is not related to any previous injury Davide has sustained in his short career.

This is that statement Newcastle released earlier today:

“Newcastle United can confirm that Davide Santon sustained an injury to his right knee during training yesterday which will keep him out of Saturday’s match with Aston Villa,”

“The player had a scan on Thursday afternoon and will undergo treatment over the weekend and will be reviewed by a specialist early next week.

“Davide was injury-free when he completed his pre-signing medical examination and scans.”  “The injury he sustained on Thursday is not connected to his previous injuries.”

Obviously there were immediate concerns that an old injury had flared up, but it has to be good news that it’s not related to any previous injury, although it does seem as though Santon has been troubled by quite a few injuries in his career, which is not particularly good news.

Newcastle seem to have gone on the offensive today to alleviate concerns, because they have also signed Demba Ba in the summer, and the Senegal striker failed a medical at Stoke City last January, due to his knee.

But this is still a bit of a setback for both Newcastle and the player himself of course, since Davide still has to make his senior debut, although he played 70 minutes last Tuesday, and looked good in the Newcastle Reserves 6-0 thrashing of Norwich City.

Let’s hope the injury turns out to be much less serious than first thought.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Davide Santon · Demba Ba · Injuries



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78 responses so far ↓

  • 1 angelswithdirtyfaces // Sep 16, 2011 at 6:02 PM

    we need him fit asap given lack of cover so hope it goes well

  • 2 i Toon // Sep 16, 2011 at 6:05 PM

    i really hope he is back ASAP

  • 3 JAMSHA // Sep 16, 2011 at 6:08 PM

    Hope he is back early

  • 4 giimps // Sep 16, 2011 at 6:14 PM

    yet another one of fatties gambles which wont pay off, 1 leftback at the club is no good, especially with our luck on the injury front.
    I would play ferguson in LB rather than Raylor, and I would play Gutti LW Marveaux RW and Best ST with Obertan as 2nd ST leave Shola on the bus

  • 5 angelswithdirtyfaces // Sep 16, 2011 at 6:23 PM

    Raylor shaky at QPR so needs a change here and leave Shola to mind the shop – don’t even let him on the bus

  • 6 Dannyo // Sep 16, 2011 at 6:23 PM

    We really need him, REALLY need him. We can’t go with a prolonged time with a makeshift LB, who really is a RW.
    Either start settling Kadar or Fergy at the spot or get a free LB to cover, we just can’t have this.
    All the teams will start tearing down our left side and we can do naught about it unless we have someone proper there.

  • 7 Sammeobi // Sep 16, 2011 at 6:31 PM

    Anyone know any good jokes???

  • 8 giimps // Sep 16, 2011 at 6:34 PM

    Sammeobi
    shola for no9

  • 9 Dannyo // Sep 16, 2011 at 6:35 PM

    lol

  • 10 toon 4 life // Sep 16, 2011 at 6:39 PM

    what do you get if you sit under MA a pat on the head coz hes a fat cow lol

  • 11 kevymartins // Sep 16, 2011 at 7:05 PM

    why do squirrels swim on their backs?

    to keep there nuts dry

  • 12 kevymartins // Sep 16, 2011 at 7:06 PM

    what did the police man say to his belly?

    ”your under a vest”

  • 13 Daft_lad // Sep 16, 2011 at 7:07 PM

    Looks like we’ve got Raylor at LB for a while longer then….the club was always going to say Santons injury was unconnected with past problems….what else could they say? Yeh we’ve bought a crock!? Time will tell I guess, I just hope he’s back soon as we’re very light on numbers at the back…so much so, there’s a real danger Perch might resurface

  • 14 magpieboom_6 // Sep 16, 2011 at 7:12 PM

    @ Dannyo…….your #6 comment is spot on. Hope he gets well and back to training and on the pitch again ASAP.

  • 15 roshan MAGPIE // Sep 16, 2011 at 7:13 PM

    JAMSHA do u know at what time the match starts and in which channel

  • 16 kevymartins // Sep 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM

    The match is 3pm ko uk time

    it isnt televised in the uk although its on stuff like setanta ireland so there should be lots of jumping buffering sh itty quality streams :D

  • 17 kevymartins // Sep 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM

    oyea i hada fix my fanasty team ;)

  • 18 Kris // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:12 PM

    Team for tomorrow:
    Krul
    Simpson-S.Taylor-Colo-Ferguson
    Obertan-Cabaye-Tiote-Gutierrez
    Best-Ba

    Bench: Harper, Gosling, Marveaux, Kadar, Sammy Ameobi, R.Taylor, Lovenkrands

  • 19 moonraker // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:13 PM

    Good to see a statement from the club about Santon’s injury. It shows they may be trying to change their ways.

    And before the neggers jump on me; it’s better than no statement at all and looks like a minor injury.

    Tomorrow, I’d put Fergie at left back with Jonas in front of him amd Marveaux on the right of a midfield 5 incl Obatan and Best on his own up top.

  • 20 stuart no9 // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:26 PM

    englishman , irishman , and a scotsman walk into a pub, and the barman says ” is this somekind of joke?

  • 21 GeordieTwo // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:27 PM

    It’s the same knee, the right one that he had trouble with and surgery on before. And yet people say it is an unrelated injury? Surely we should be going back to his former club and asking for an explanation. How did he pass his fitness test? If he is out one or two months and then takes another month to get into the first team it will be far too late for us. We will now have to go with Ferguson or stick with Raylor who is a disaster at LB. Such incompetence. Why didn’t we pay the proper fee for Pieters? We all know why. The same reason we didn’t get a striker. Do I have to spell it out? I didn’t think so.

  • 22 Daft_lad // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:29 PM

    @ moonraker

    No, no, no, no, no….do not play Fergie at full back!
    How many players do we intend to ruin by playing them out of position!? Stevie Watson, Jon Dahl Tomasson, Hugo Viana, Charles Nzogbia….where does it end? We’ve got a great talent in young Shane and we need to look after him….

    Also, the statement from the club is clearly to assure fans that this is not a recurring injury….if it had been then they know they’d come in for plenty of flak….I wouldn’t get carried away with them maybe changing policy….it’s a sh1t deflecting exercise that’s all

  • 23 Daft_lad // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:38 PM

    @ geordieTwo

    Probably passed his medical as the board failed to conduct due diligence…..again!

  • 24 GeordieTwo // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:41 PM

    yes Daft_lad @23 I have to agree. If they would like to assure the fans of something why don’t Llambias and the board step down and then we could possibly get some competent people in there?

  • 25 shamsoftabriz // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:43 PM

    This account sounds like nothing more than Newcastle trying to reassure fans that nothing was wrong with Santon at the time he was bought and signed. That does not necessarily mean that the injury was unrelated to his past troubles. Cartilage is what keeps the two bones in the joint from abrading against one another when the knee is in motion. When cartilage tears in the knee and has to be removed, the remaining cartilage bears an additional % of stress. That, in turn, increases the risk for future cartilage damage because the remaining material must bear more weight, breaks down more easily, etc. That is why, for instance, so many United States (NFL) Football Players have chronic degenerative knee arthritis by the time they are 40. There is a partial truth in Newcastle’s statement: the injury suffered by Santon isn’t necessarily DIRECTLY related to his earlier problems insofar as it is a “flare up” of an earlier injury that has not properly healed. HOWEVER, his earlier problems, especially his surgery, make it more likely that similar chronic issues will plague his knee as his career moves forward. It may heal up alright, but cartilage doesn’t grow back. Therefore, what is left will wear down more quickly. What should we take from all of this? Hope he comes back and has a good 3-5 years at Newcastle, and sell his stock when it is at its Zenith and before what could be a sharp decline as he nears his mid 20s.

  • 26 LeedsMag // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:45 PM

    Davide was injury free when he signed means he was symptom free.An injury with surgery at his age (in fact he has had significant injury more than once),means potential future risk.The knee is one of the most vulnerable and stressed joints in the body especially in a professional sportsman.Was this a risk worth taking when the first choice LB was available for a small extra fee? Yet again we are left with no confidence in the management process.
    I hope Kadar gets fit and has the chance to fulfill his potential

  • 27 West_End_TooN // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:48 PM

    Its a shame about santon best it happinin now then when the full team gets full of injurys and its only 4 weeks hopefully lol ,Raylor is there hes had 1 bad game think its too early to throw young shane fergie in now needs more playin time

  • 28 GeordieTwo // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:51 PM

    Spot on shams @25 and Leeds Mag @26. You sound more knowledgeable than the club does. Maybe they should hire both of you and improve their chances of not signing crocks. 5M is starting to look like not such a great deal now. Surely the physios will work with him to build up his strength in that leg?

  • 29 Daft_lad // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:53 PM

    Agreed GeordieTwo…..Llambias has to go

  • 30 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 8:59 PM

    Why don’t I believe this statement?

  • 31 GeordieTwo // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:01 PM

    Daft_lad I would love to see some banners with Llambias out! on them and something nasty in the way of a new song for him. Focus on that clown and let Ashley know (if he doesn’t already) how we feel about his clueless flunky!

  • 32 GeordieTwo // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:05 PM

    Probably something about the source of the statement makes you suspicious WWJBD. They know one thing now which is that this is the third injury Santon has had on the same knee. And he is only 20!

  • 33 Daft_lad // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:06 PM

    @wwjbd

    For the same reason I don’t which is the simple fact they’ve actually released a statement….if there was no concern then there’s nothing to say…..a liar is always quick to tell you that they haven’t done something whereas the honest man doesn’t see the need to vindicate themselves

  • 34 ~~San-Toon~~ // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:07 PM

    The only thing that keeps me going every night is knowing that, Newcastle (if everyone fully fit and playing at the quality we know they can play at), then we would have a very deadly flair team…..

    —————————–krul———————————-
    –Raylor————Staylor–Colo—————Santon–
    ——————————Tiote——————————
    –Gutti——————–Cabaye—————-Marveux
    ——————————-Barfa—————————
    ——————————-Ba——————————-

    Subs:
    - Harper
    - Simmo
    - Fergie
    - Gosling
    - Abeid
    - Sammi
    - Best

    Thats a Scary team….

  • 35 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:09 PM

    Haha glad am not alone in my worries

  • 36 GeordieTwo // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM

    Too bad you won’t be seeing that lineup for quite a while San-Toon as both Ben Arfa and Santon are out with injuries. Raylor may not be much better than Simpson at RB. They have tried him there before and he wasn’t great. Not a full back. Actually I would be hard pressed to say what he is. His free kicks are too inconsistent to rely on him for that either. Talk about a paper thin squad. They are afraid to play the young players, yet we don’t have enough healthy senior players. Wake up and do your job Llambias!

  • 37 Dannyo // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM

    Oh cmon guys, u don’t believe em when they say something, u don’t believe em when they don’t say something.
    There’s two rules which are excellent to go by:
    1. Assumptions is the mother of all fcuk ups.
    2. A person is innocent until proven guilty.

    I agree, DL must go, but i won’t pry things on the board that i know nothing about.

  • 38 GeordieTwo // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:18 PM

    That’s right Dannyo we don’t believe them, period. There is plenty of evidence to indicate why this is so. Time will tell about Santon. If he never plays a full season with us because of his knee it won’t matter how “related” the knee injuries were. A knee missing cartilage is a knee missing cartilage. That won’t go away. Cartilage doesn’t re-grow. Llambias is clueless and that won’t change. Ashley is a fool for keeping him on the payroll.

  • 39 stuart no9 // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:20 PM

    not related ??? i am not medically trained , but come on man! give it a rest with taking the p;;. sooner or later the fans are going to explode with anger, and AP or whoever , is going to get the full force of it. i believe shams@25, it makes sense, AP dosnt. their last sentence in the statement is quite funny, its like” honestly you have to believe us on this one “!!!! F,,K OFF

  • 40 Daft_lad // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:20 PM

    @Dannyo

    Depends on the context…
    The club were quick to say this wasn’t a recurrence of Santons old injury….too quick imo and not in keeping with how they operate….if there’s no concern then why the haste to put the story out? I’ll tell you why….because they are concerned

  • 41 Dannyo // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:21 PM

    I think we should bleed Kadar into the role tbh, atleast he’s injury free, and he’s well thought of in the NUFC building.
    A shame injuries has hampered him so.
    Can’t be worse than having Raylor playing out of position.

  • 42 Dannyo // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:25 PM

    @Daft_lad

    It may all be bullcrap, i have no clue. I think they worry that they’ll stir the fans up further, no doubt. They should know us well in that regard by now.
    So yes, the statement could be there just to cool things down before they might escalate.
    Or they could be working on communication to the fans, like the last two “statements” have shown.

    I won’t blame anyone for thinking the first, the history of the past isn’t exactly great…(understatement?)

  • 43 GeordieTwo // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:25 PM

    Dannyo Kadar has been warned by the club to shape up or ship out. He has not been playing well when fit and has had an almost endless series of injuries in previous seasons, muck like Vuckic. After warning about his performances I very much doubt that Pardew would turn around and use him in the Prem. He is playing for another contract at best and will probably only feature in the reserves for the forseeable future.

  • 44 geoff777 // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:25 PM

    No one can be sure if Santon’s injury is recurrence of a previous injury until they stick a scope in his knee and someone has a look.

    I’m sure he was fit when he passed his medical, so I’m not accusing the club of signing a “crock”.

    Having said that … the failure of Derek Llambias to sign a striker after 7 months is still annoying me a tad.

    So I’ve got to publish a daily “Llambias Out”.
    He is a useless failure, we need to get rid of this man asap.

  • 45 Dannyo // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:29 PM

    @GeordieTwo

    I wasn’t aware that he hadn’t been playing well. I just thought it was down to his “chain injuries”. Much like Ed says sometimes, he has played well for us in the first team when gotten a chance, and hasn’t looked out of depth.
    So i’m a bit surprised that his performance isn’t up to par :/
    Several rumours say he’s still well thought of, but there’s no point in investing the future in a player who’ll play 3 games a season.

  • 46 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:33 PM

    Kadar didn’t get given a shirt number for the season when we are desperate at the back…am not so sure he is as highly rated within the club as many would have us believe

    I have heard he is very out of shape and his performances weren’t up to scratch

  • 47 GeordieTwo // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:34 PM

    Dannyo yes we are in quite a state at the back with no cover at all. Again down to having a clown for a managing director. As with geoff777 I say Llambias out as often as possible. The man is a complete clueless clown. How many games is our lack of cover going to cost us this season? How few goals do we have to score before we get a decent striker? How will we ever even be able to sign a decent striker with that clown conducting the negotiations? Very frustrating.

  • 48 geoff777 // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:40 PM

    Kadar played 75 minutes of a recent Hugary U21 game against Italy.

    He picked up a yellow card for fouling Santon!

    Kadar was average and Santon was said to have looked really impressive (at RB).

    Still Kadar’s fit enough to play.

  • 49 Andy // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM

    Evening lads. Tomrrows team i am unsure of atm. What i would like to see is possibly ferguson at lb instead of raylor but i think pards will keep the back 4 as they’ve kept 3 clean sheets so far. (quite a few lucky breaks!) Also hope we play 5 in midfield. Gosling and marv in for shola and one of the wingers. They were both pants. I think AP will go with Ba and Best with same wingers as villa usually play 4-4-2. Would like to see us dominate cm though which is why i’d go with a 5

  • 50 stuart no9 // Sep 16, 2011 at 9:58 PM

    geoff777 @44 not JUST lambias the other 2 musketeers must be on their way as well, together as a group they are a disaster waiting to happen. Look at the other teams not doing well, yes we are unbeating, but i;m looking long term, the proper sides that we will sadly have to play. protests at everton to get the owner out, i!d have him , at blackburn protests to get the manager out, and to be honest, i!d have him as well, instead of pardew. there is something about this crew that no one trusts. kenwright and kean both look honest blokes IMO , and that is all we ask. It just seems no matter what these people say or do,we never do anything about it . Things must change!

  • 51 Dannyo // Sep 16, 2011 at 10:01 PM

    Still, highly likely that we’re changing tactics against Villa, i can see Gosling in Ben Arfas role. And a 5 man midfield aswell.

  • 52 Andy // Sep 16, 2011 at 10:05 PM

    Kean :O yikes! Guy is a delusional fool still thinks blackburn will finish top 10 haha. He is not better than pardew :lol: Fans marching to get kean out at the weekend because he is pap.

  • 53 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 10:15 PM

    I normally feel bad for managers when the fans turn on them but in Keans case I don’t see him as a manager haha

  • 54 Andy // Sep 16, 2011 at 10:22 PM

    The fact he said blackburn could be cl team in 4 years time and believed it is hillarious! I’ll slate him now then we’ll get beat off them next sat like! haha

  • 55 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 10:30 PM

    Haha won’t get beat by Kean howay the bird farmers will get shot of him once they realise they can’t use him in their adverts

    Just imagine 4 years time NUFC and Blackburn in the CL ;)

  • 56 Andy // Sep 16, 2011 at 10:39 PM

    Haha NUFC blackburn and stoke top 3 in 2015. Wonder what odds i’ll get on that! Probably just get a referal to the nearest nut house

  • 57 stuart no9 // Sep 16, 2011 at 10:44 PM

    i dont see AP as a manager either, as i said, ” instead” of pardew i would rather have kean , what has pardew done that has wowed us since he came here ? he is having a decent spell now, but he will very soon be exposed as a manager with no idea , just like last season when we got a drubbing off stoke, and his tactics were there for everyone to see.Is kean a great manager? no hes not,but if he can be honest to fans, that is a lot more than what we have now. If kean thinks they can still finish 10th, thats his opinion, wrong or right, but to blatently lie to fans ! is a different level IMO

  • 58 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 10:48 PM

    Andy
    Haha chuck in QPR (Joey left for CL remember) and there’s your top 4!

    Stuart no9
    U would rather have Kean than Pardew? Pardew is a manager in all fairness Kean is just some bloke!
    Youve had a shocker imo with that one mate

  • 59 Andy // Sep 16, 2011 at 10:52 PM

    Blackburn fans detest him. He is a shocking manager. Pardew is not a great manager but he is definitley better than kean. You want a rubbish manager who doesn’t lie over a decent manager who is a bit of a liar? May as well ask avram grant to come manage us.

  • 60 stuart no9 // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:10 PM

    WWJBD as i said i dont think either of them are good managers , but given the choice , a manager who is genuine and loyal comes before a pretender.eg chris hughton !

  • 61 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:18 PM

    So Kean would come in and be honest…being he would tell us what he is told by the owners

    I fail to see in what way anything would change other than we would have a worse manager with less experience

  • 62 Stuart // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:21 PM

    Bonjuer lads, just got back from the pub, thought I’d weigh in. Having Kean as our manager would be like going back to JFK, very bad choice.

    AP may be a yes man but hes a good man manager and we’ve had a good start to the season with a team that hasnt gelled yet and has one or two key players still not involved, not too much gripes so far like.

  • 63 Andy // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:21 PM

    Kean has a driving ban and pardew doesn’t. So Pardew is better. Pardew may be a liar but not a drink driver. Therefore Pardew should be our manager ………….

  • 64 Tonytoon73 // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:24 PM

    fking hell alot of dark siders on here the night. lol

  • 65 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:25 PM

    Also PARDEWS NOT A LIAR haha I couldn’t hold it in anymore!

  • 66 Andy // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:27 PM

    He is. He said Shola was the best striker he had ever worked with. That i know is a lie! I believe he is lied to and naive at times and he has recognised this now.

  • 67 stuart no9 // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:32 PM

    WWWJBD so what did you think of CH when he used to take over the side (and get beat ) and then get appointed manager?

  • 68 Tonytoon73 // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:32 PM

    Once a liar always a liar, springs to mind.

  • 69 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:35 PM

    Haha Shola is top quality! He is Messi in training as every former manager would tell ya! ;)

  • 70 Tonytoon73 // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:40 PM

    WWJBD You are wrong there son. Wor Sir Bobby thought Ameobi was Carl Cort in training.

  • 71 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:40 PM

    What did I think of Hughton taking over the side you mean fella?

    I didn’t like it and in all fairness he was manager in name only, squad was picked and ran by players. Not saying anything bad about Hughton btw love the man, true gent he is after all

  • 72 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:42 PM

    Tony haha aye true haha that’s a classic Shola moment

  • 73 West_End_TooN // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:46 PM

    @57 kean over pardew your havin a laugh aint you mate he couldn’t manage blyth spartens nevermind nufc he talks wet aswell sayin blackburn top 8 10 lol as far as we buyin santon injured thats lies he played for under 21s n 70 res every1 picks up nocks its football give the lad a chance its santon not dyer haha

  • 74 Tonytoon73 // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:47 PM

    WWJBD 2-1 the toon my prediction for tomorrow. Now i’m off see you after.

  • 75 WWJBD // Sep 16, 2011 at 11:51 PM

    Tony
    1-1 draw is my punt

  • 76 Stuart // Sep 17, 2011 at 12:04 AM

    2-1 Besty, Cabaye and Bent

  • 77 stuart no9 // Sep 17, 2011 at 12:10 AM

    WWJBD never said you were saying anything bad about CH mate ,imo he turned out to be a legend, strange how the most unlikely of managers turn out to be legends!

  • 78 Dyer8 // Sep 17, 2011 at 12:42 AM

    vs Villa(A)

    (~70min)
    Krul
    Simmo..Saylor..Collo..Raylor
    Tiote
    Obertan..Gosling..Cabaye..Jonas
    Best

    (~90min)
    Krul
    Simmo..Saylor..Collo..Ferguson
    Obertan..Cabaye..Tiote..Marvo
    Best..Ba




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