How We Came Away Losing That Game Is Beyond Me


There’s a lot of analysis of last night’s game going on this morning.

Alan Pardew – we were brilliant in the last 15 minutes of extra time 

But really the very simple and easy way to look at the game last night,  is that Newcastle just didn’t get the breaks and they didn’t get the rub of the green.

Given that we’ve had some luck in many of our previous games, we cannot really complain too much,  and over the season the luck tends to even itself out.

Alan Pardew was not too happy about last night because he thought Newcastle should have had at least one penalty that wasn’t awarded.

And he also thought that goalkeeper Tim Krul did not commit the foul that led to Blackburn’s penalty after 64 minutes, and we have to agree with him on that.

This is what Alan said today:

“I thought Demba Ba was pulled down just before they got a penalty.” “Blackburn might feel unlucky to have gone to extra time.”

“But then again I thought that they were very lucky to be 2-0 up, very fortunate. If we’d have got to 1-1, which I think we should have, it was a different game. We’d have been on the front foot.”

“On our tape, Tim played the ball so it wasn’t even a penalty to put them 2-0 up.” “You can’t win every game and this was an example of when events turn against you.”

“They turned against us last night in a horrible way at times.”  “I didn’t think we played the first half as well as we could have. I thought we lacked a little bit of urgency and didn’t get at them.”

“We had plenty of possession but we were not really hurting them.” “We got better as the game went on.”  “But the second half of extra time we were brilliant and by far the better side.”

“How we have come away losing that game is beyond me, if I’m honest.”

The bottom line is that our lads have done great this season so far, and they now need to knuckle down, learn whatever lessons there are to learn from last night’s game, and then fully prepare for the next game at Stoke City on Monday evening.

It’s very important for many reasons that Newcastle continue to do well in the Premier League this season, and getting something out of the game at the Britannia Stadium will be a good result for Newcastle.

That’s the next challenge, and all that really matters now.

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48 comments so far

  • Toon_Tom

    Oct 27, 2011 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #1

    still unbeaten after 90mins this season, and anything from Stoke on Monday would be excellent!

    Best & Ba back on it please!!!

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Oct 27, 2011 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #2

    I must say that I thought that Krul did foul him for the penalty but that should never have mattered because Ba was being pulled by Samba clear for all to see, and yeah at 1-1 with the way the second half was going there was only going to be one winner. Blackburn have no right to be proud of that victory because it was a hollow one so here’s to hoping they get a rampant City side away from home for an absolute demoralising demolition job. As for us, next step in the season is to get a positive result against Stoke be that a point or maybe even all three!

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  • AP's Black & White Army

    Oct 27, 2011 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #3

    James Perch.

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  • Toon_Jock

    Oct 27, 2011 at 3:55 PM

    Comment #4

    Lessons learned! Now bring on Stoke….

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  • yorkshireToon

    Oct 27, 2011 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #5

    i’m guessing there winner wasn’t offside even though it looked it, i’m sure pardew would have mentioned it if it was

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Oct 27, 2011 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #6

    agree. ba and best back upfront. ben arfa back to the bench. clearly not ready. and yes i feel sorry for perch because perch and colo may have trouble communicating as they dont play together often.

    will saylor be back for stoke? he was sorely missed. perch and colo together for stoke just spells trouble. i can see both committing mistakes because of poor understanding.

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  • Toon_Jock

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #7

    We need, without a shadow of a doubt, our unchanged/unbeaten starting 11 back in for stoke, especially…

    Krul
    Simmo/Saylor/Collo/Raylor
    Tiote/Cabaye

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #8

    I think the big problem last night was not having tiote and staylor in the team…we scored goals, just leaked too many…not convinced HBA needs to be dropped…he needs PML games not reserves to get up to speed. I’d say
    Krul
    Simmo/RTaylor – STaylor – Colo – Santon
    Tiote – Cabaye
    Guti – HBA – Marveaux
    Ba/Best

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  • AshtreeKid

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #9

    he can get premier league game time from the bench and as agaiunst tottenham and wigan can be more effective as he is fresh and can pull their defence out of shape.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #10

    Yes he can….but that’s not going to get him there quickly…and I don’t think HBA is supposed to be an impact sub, surely he should be getting out there and ready for November…as we’re going to need some magic then

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  • AshtreeKid

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #11

    I think playing him from the start will cost us too much in the short term, far better as an impact sub to build confiedence

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #12

    Fair enough Ashtree…what’s your thoughts on swapping ober and marv?

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  • AshtreeKid

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #13

    definate, this is the one major change which needs doing, everything else I’m not too bothered about as we have been doing ok. Also again to me Obertan isnt looking decisive enough and needs confiedence so coming off the bench with his pace might help him in the long run gain some of those attributes

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  • nimo

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #14

    i dont think it was due to fact perch played why we conceded 4.. only 2 in 90 mins remember… old man wa at game n reckons collo wa worst def … just shows what a difference plAying games week in werk out together.. no coincidence we been almost water tight when there been no defensive changes in.the league

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #15

    I don’ think it was all down to perch either…but our unchanged back four pluys cabaye and tiote have been amazing (Of course, our No.1. too)….don’t mess with it unless needed….the front four can be played with without too much trouble I think.

    Overall, seasons been great so far…long may it continue

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  • geordieupontyne

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #16

    if you really really really really wanna win something just play your best 11…

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  • beefman13

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #17

    yes we were very good last 15 of extra time but the first 90 was a bit dire and they were there for the taking, guthrie is good technically but he wont get another contract so he4 should be fazed out in my opinion, yes he was no worse than anyone else but it was not until things got desperate that he decided to move forward and to be fair he scored a goosd goal but he wont do it unless we have nothing to loose and that frustrates the hell out of me about the lad, he has skill but is to afraid to use it positivly during 90 mins its nearly always sideways balls, vucic would of had a go from the start hre is young and not scared to push forward and create, this ism a weakness for me in pardew he wont play a very good youngin ahead of a more seasoned pro, it really irritated me that vucic and fergie were not even in the squad last night, and we still havnt won a game in one season and 9 games when guthrie has started that has got to say something.

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  • Willo

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #18

    We need our starting 11 back again. I admit I was wrong, no more of the James Perch at CB nonsense where is Saylor? And anyone have a guess on when Tiote is coming back?

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  • Viper

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #19

    How come tiredness was initial blame? They too were equally tired?!
    And again a poor 1st half. Need to drop that or wheels will come off our cart!

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  • AshtreeKid

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #20

    I think Jonas needs to stay on the wing as his tracking back and team play are excellent

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  • Willo

    Oct 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #21

    @AshtreeKid- agreed. Jonas’ workrate is second to none and the help that he give Raylor when he tracks back can’t be under-praised. Then as soon as he is done helping out he goes and runs 60 yards to join in the attack. A class act.

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  • liam85

    Oct 27, 2011 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #22

    Just wasn’t our day. doesn’t mean our guys didn’t work hard for the win. I don’t care losing games as long as we are still strong and we don’t stop fighting till the very end and it looks like we did just that. Stoke is the only importance now 😀

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  • magpie6699

    Oct 27, 2011 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #23

    Luck evens out, doesn’t it? So please will our detractors now shut up about us having had a lucky season!

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  • Tiote4PM

    Oct 27, 2011 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #24

    The changes that SOOOO many have been asking for happend last night (excluding Perch) and look what happend.

    Bring HBA in slowly – what I have ssen thus far would rather have Guthrie in there!

    Marv is class and will be our regular sub hopefully.

    Santon at fault yesterday after a terrible touch and then slipping for one of the goals.

    I want Prem team NO changes.

    If HBA sulks… well Feck im!

    HWTL

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Oct 27, 2011 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #25

    Beefman good to see you’ve calmed down somewhat from last night haha but I really have to ask?why will Guthrie not get a new contract?he is a great squad player to have, of all the players starting he was one of the few that were praised for their performance and that was before he scored. His passing is tidy, a technically solid player that probably needs to tidy up his touch a bit more before properly progressing but I for one would like to see him get a new contract

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 27, 2011 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #26

    a was at the game yday and have to admit Coloccini was shocking he obviously just couldnt communicate with Perch, Simo was always trying to get perch in check aswell but never happened, Perch was terrible for first 20mins looked very nervous but he grew into the game and started looking decent not good but decent still done couple of daft things as game went on but he was overall quite decent done a great block in the first half aswel.. Santon was best defender then Guthrie and Ba wer also very good especially Ba who was immense

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #27

    we’ll probz find out about Tiote if hes training tomorrow

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  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 27, 2011 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #28

    Thanks for that summary GeordieToon89. It was hard to tell what was going on with the radio broadcast. All in all this was bound to happen eventually. Just as well it was in the cup. Good to give Ben Arfa, Marveaux and Santon a run out. We will definitely need them in the weeks to come. Perch will eventually be cleared out along with Smith I am convinced. In fairness he should be playing somewhere in the Championship. Where are Kadar and Vuckic? Will they ever live up to their early promise? Not clear at all.

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  • soundoid

    Oct 27, 2011 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #29

    WE need Willo fit as soon as.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 27, 2011 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #30

    Agree with you Ruddy @24. We should hang on to Guthrie. If Abeid is such a great player and Pardew has said he might take Tiote’s place during the ACN then why wasn’t he on the field yesterday? I believe he is nowhere near ready to play in the Prem yet and Pardew telling him he will be taking Tiote’s place (and doing a good enough job) is just to build up his confidence.

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  • WWJBD

    Oct 27, 2011 at 6:31 PM

    Comment #31

    Evening lads anything news worthy gone on today?

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  • beefman13

    Oct 27, 2011 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #32

    ruddy and geordie two, guthrie is a player who for me wont get another contract i will hold my hand up if he does get one and say fair comment if he gets one. alan smith is technically good but he has lost all confidence with the ball guthrie is a slight step up from him they are championship players, if guthrie was prepared to go forward more then he would fulfill his potential but he does the crab thing like smith like the ball is red hot, yea he can pass the ball but when was the last time he did the killer ball from midfield he only has a go when things are desperate as he did last night but he could do it more often thats what frustrates me about him and bugs the hell out of me about the situation,.

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  • beefman13

    Oct 27, 2011 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #33

    If guthrie gets a contract then pardew actually thinks he has a good squad player, if not he should have showed faith in gosling and put vucic or fergie or abeid in the squad beacuse for me if a player is not going to get a new contract he should not have been playing, if he does get the contract fair enough, as i have said i will hold my hands up if he does get a contract i wont be happy with pardew whatsoever if he dosnt and moves on as it would show no confidence in the afore mentioned players.

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  • Andy-NUFC

    Oct 27, 2011 at 7:01 PM

    Comment #34

    Just reading some posts, and yous are critisizing Ben Arfa for not playing well? He has just come back from a long term injury and yous are all expecting him to play well in the first couple of games his return. Crazy. He needs to start against Stoke in my opinion and against Everton to get his confidence up. Also we missed Tayls and Tiote last night imo.

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  • GeordieCoaster

    Oct 27, 2011 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #35

    As the fans were chanting, “Referee: Man of the match” and “2-0 to the referee” 😀

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  • American Toon 13

    Oct 27, 2011 at 7:09 PM

    Comment #36

    Gutted to have lost, but the quarterfinal game would have been sandwiched in between Manchester United and Chelsea in the league, which is much more daunting than playing Stoke away this coming monday. Still a good cup run, and just shows that in the Premier League you can’t take anything for granted, even against a poor, rock bottom Blackburn team. Have to try our luck again in the FA Cup, especially if we maintain a good start to the season

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 27, 2011 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #37

    ayee a like the good old “Referee’s a Wa*ker” …. If S.Taylor and Tiote had of played last night we would of walked all over them.. Tiote would of won the battle in midfield which we never done and Taylor and Colo would of been steady at the back instead of Colo being nervous because Perch was nervous

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 27, 2011 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #38

    thing is with Ben Arfa y-day is he just wasnt running atall he actually physically looked not interested and to be honest looked lost Ba was doing everything right but didnt have the support Benny was supposed to give him.. the second half Pards must have says something to benny as they was 2 flashes of sheer class and nearly scored a far post header from a great left foot cross from Jonas again.. he will get better 100% he just needs games a was arguing with some fans around me they wer saying waste of money and hes too weak and shite n all tht just made the strict point he’s played just less than 2 competitive games in over a year because of two bad injuries a said he’s the type of player that needs a season of week in week out to get totally accustomed to this league, Ronaldo and Nani both needed atleast 1 season to get used to the league

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  • ned

    Oct 27, 2011 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #39

    I have never read such b#!!x by people supposedly at the game last night.Geordietoon89 have a long hard word with yersel.Never did I think I would see an Italian fullback with less heart than Pistone but we found one last night !Shearer must be pulling whatever hair he has got left out.I could give you at least 3 occassions where Santon lost possession and did not bother his backside to recover his position and help his teammates.Best defender ? Have you any footballing knowledge whatsoever ? HBA is a million miles off the pace and I would be seriously concerned about his ability to recover from such a serious injury.I hope I am proven wrong about both of them. Collicini was having to cover for the failings of his 3 blundering defensive colleagues and was immense.Santons greatest hope and the clubs is that he looked very like Colo did in his first season.Ba gave one of the hardest working performances i have seen recently but cannot be relied upon to mark the likes of Samba. Perch never has and never will be good enough at this level.The fans were fantastic except for the morons breaking seats behind us who got themselves well and truly nicked.

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  • Kris

    Oct 27, 2011 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #40

    My team for Stoke:
    Krul
    Simpson-S.Taylor(Hopefully)-Coloccini-Santon
    Obertan-Tiote(hopefully)-Cabaye-Gutierrez
    Ba-Best

    Bench: Elliot, R.Taylor, Gosling, Guthrie, Smith, Ben Arfa, Sammy

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