We’ll Be Fighting For Our Lives Again At Stoke


After Newcastle’s first defeat at Blackburn Rovers Newcastle manager Alan Pardew is wondering how his troops will react tonight at the Britannia Stadium in Stoke.

Ben Arfa – could get another start tonight

Assistant Manager John Carver has said a few times this season, that the real test of the side will be when things start going against them, and we’ll then see what character this team really possesses.

The start to the season was good for Newcastle,  because we had the rub of the green in many of those early games, but we didn’t at Blackburn last week, although the side was nowhere near their best either.

Pardew took some blame himself for the 4-0 defeat at Stoke last March, and he said he didn’t set up how Newcastle should have played very well, and  he concentrated too much on the way Stoke would come at Newcastle.

The side collapsed shortly after the break to go from 1-0 down to 3-0 down just four minutes into the second half, as they conceded two sloppy goals.

This is what Alan had to say to the local press today:

“I don’t really know how they’ll react to defeat because that winning Gaël Givet goal came so late, and even then we had a good chance with 20 seconds left through Colo.

“There’s obviously a resilience in this team, that’s a given and we take that to Stoke. We don’t want to get beaten in the league so we’ll be fighting for our lives again.”

“It’s just about getting my head around Stoke. It’s a different type of game, the pitch is narrow, the grass is long and they put you under enormous pressure.”

“We had a terrible day there last year, I had to take some fault – I set the team up to combat their style rather than focus on our own.”

“It’s on the back of a defeat – and I can’t say it was a disappointing defeat, because there are things that went very, very right in the game.”

Ben Arfa could get another start tonight, because  Leon Best has tonsillitis and will not play, but Steven Taylor will be back in the side wearing his new mask.

There’s also a doubt about Cheick Tiote and his knee, with Danny Guthrie available if the Ivory Coast International cannot make the game.

Anything but a defeat tonight would be a good result for Newcastle, and then we’d be in third position in the league come 10:00 pm local time tonight.

Comments welcome.



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44 comments so far

  • Indian Magpie

    Oct 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #1

    Yes Pardew Choosing sol campbell, you are the only one 2 blame

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  • Stuart

    Oct 31, 2011 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #2

    Bugger a draw. Cheeky 2-1 win and a 3 point gap on Chelsea! Haha.

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  • WWJBD

    Oct 31, 2011 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #3

    This is the most confused I have been for a prediction all season

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  • AMEOBI

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #4

    Indian magpie, I’ve heard of buffon ofcourse but like yanar I don’t have every day to “revise” other football teams! Got a bit of a life to be thinking of other teams pal, plus I’m pretty hungover hah

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  • catchy in norway

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #5

    i think the team will be set up to win, and not go for the draw,

    1-0 to the toon

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  • WWJBD

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #6

    catchy
    From the last thread, who in our squad do you think would be a regular starter for Man Utd?

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  • Sir Alan

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #7

    ^^^ Tiote and Krul.

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  • Twatter

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #8

    Coloccini as well? Quite possibly.

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  • WWJBD

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #9

    Krul over De Gea doubt that highly and Tiote over Anderson Giggs Fletcher Cleverly oh and Jones can play there again I doubt that

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  • KenyanToon

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #10

    Howay The Lads
    Tonight no matter the out come of the game i will be proud of the lads coming from my country the lads are now a force to reckon

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  • WWJBD

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #11

    Colo would be possibly due to the recent drop in form of Rio and Evans but then you have Vidic and Smalling and if Rio finds his form again then I doubt SAF would pick Colo over him

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  • Super Al

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #12

    Cabaye and Ben Arfa would walk into any top team’s starting XI (although the latter would only be considered when in top form;surely not on current form)

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  • catchy in norway

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #13

    i think cabaye would also make there first team
    colo
    krul
    tiote
    obertan? haha just kidding

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  • Toon_Tom

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #14

    We have to play for the win tonight imo. Trying to contain Stoke and changing the way we play could be suicidle. Stoke take NO prisoners and will be looking to boss the game. If we use our resilience, speed and skill then we can take 3 points. If we let Stoke get in our faces and sit back and look for a draw then we could suffer our first defeat of the season. If Best is ruled out, then I would definitely go with HBA infront of the midfield as opposed to starting Lovas with Ba. We will need to win the midfield battles and playing with an extra man in midfield (4-5-1) should see us through!!!!! 2-1 (Ba, Guthrie)

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  • WWJBD

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #15

    Cabaye maybe but Cleverly and Anderson have both looked very good this season.

    Tiote and Krul wouldnt make the Utd squad imo but then I think Tiote is rather over rated

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  • niafron

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #16

    Bonjour messieurs.

    Are we optimistic?

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #17

    man utd dont have a player like Tiote so he would play in they team week in week out and would give the likes of Anderson and Cleverly freedom to score the goals and create chances.. Jones and Vidic are both better than Colo.. De Gea is a f**kin awesome keeper Krul would only play cup games and even then Lindegaard is class

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #18

    niafron – a fancie a nice little 2-1 win goals through Ba and suprisingly Ben Arfa

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  • Toonboy_83

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #19

    WWJBD – Who cares about Man United? We’re Newcastle united, the 4th best team in the league.

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #20

    Cabaye and Tiote would both start for man utd, as would collocini! No 1 else from our side would though, Taylor and jonas might make their bench! I doubt Krul would start, tbh De Gea has the potential to be the best goalkeeper on the planet, he’s only played a handful of premier league games so is still adapting! Imagine a team of De Gea, Jones, Collo, Vidic, Evra, Nani, Tiote, Cabaye, Valencia, Rooney and Hernandez! Krul, Taylor, Smalling, Anderson, Jonas, Berbatov and Ba on the bench! Be immense!

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #21

    Toonboy_83 – yes mate and we’ll be 3rd beat tonight hopefully haha

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #22

    jayphoto – rather have welbeck than berba on the bench haha but lets speak of the mighty toon lads now eh =]

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  • Toon_Tom

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #23

    Toonboy > we’ll be the 3rd best team in the league by 10pm tonight 😀

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #24

    Would take a draw tonight, I worked at the britannia for a year photographing for the sentinel, its cold, miserable and ridiculously loud for a small capacity, a proper old school english football ground! Seen many a team struggle to get to grips with the small pitch etc I’d play Benny in this 1 though, he’s the kind of player that can make something out of not a lot of space! Need to keep it on the ground, Stokes height will mop up any aerial attacks! I’d play santon at left back as a way of coping with the aerial attacks with R.Taylor right back as his form has been good!

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #25

    never knew we wer on sky next saturday against Everton.. if we win or draw tonight we can go 2nd before man utd play next week wooo haha providing we beat everton..

    also we could create a nice gap next week as chelsea are away to an improving blackburn and spuds are away to a hard working fulham who are pretty hard to beat at home

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  • Toon_Tom

    Oct 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #26

    Krul

    Raylor
    Saylor
    Colo
    Santooon

    Marv
    Guthrie
    Cabaye
    Jonas

    HBA

    Ba

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #27

    to be fair Ben Arfa really needs to play against teams like this to get his confidence up in tackles and also getting him used to the fact he doesnt get as much time and space on the ball and he needs game time so badly a would start him for the next few weeks we need him for the upcoming big games

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  • Thump

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #28

    Not feeling too good about tonights game knowing the form Stoke are in doubled with their ridiculous game of head tennis.

    I’d call them “unplayable” but that’s no compliment – it’s the equivalent of anti-football.

    “The grass is long”

    Because the only time the ball touches the ground is at kick off.

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  • maugid

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #29

    I’m absolutely torn over hba tonight. I’d love to see his flair but I just don’t think we would see it at stoke. When we have seen hba we have seen him trying to do it all and it ends up not coming off. Pardews absolutely right give him time! Not sure about lovs though, why not take a punt on sammy, stoke wouldn’t expect that!!

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #30

    Tom_toon – a think our defence tonight will be

    Simo-Taylor-Colo-Santon

    just because as i said yday in training they had at one point
    ————Krul
    Simo-Perch-Colo-Santon

    all on one team which suggests to me thats our defence apart from Taylor because you work on your starting back 4 by playing them together in training matches and working them hard so thats my bets

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  • WWJBD

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #31

    I care about Man Utd and you should too mate they are top 2 best clubs in the UK easily

    Also I was questioning someone else who brought it up so relax bud haha

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  • niafron

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #32

    No news about the starting eleven since yesterday?

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #33

    Thump – do you mean Stokes bad form? or they good home form? because theyve only won 3 of they last 11 premier league games but on the other hand only lost 1 premier league game at home in 2011

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  • GeordieToon89

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #34

    I hate Man Utd

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  • AshtreeKid

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #35

    is best injured for tonight then??? Anyone had an update as to whether tiote will play?

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  • niafron

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #36

    Well, the problem isn’t realy MU or Chelsea. We aim the fourth place.

    So our opponents are Liverpool, who is still close, Tottenham, who now got the sem amount of point than us but with one game less, and also Arsenal who come back quicker than expected.
    And maybe also Stoke …

    So this game is probably as important as the game against Tottenham.
    I hope a victory, but will not complain in case of Draw as we play away.

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  • Thump

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #37

    @GT89: Whoops, aye mate – home form! Thought I made the distinction haha

    @WWJBD: Aye but tonight could see us third best; that’s when we need to start caring about Man U 😉

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  • Toon_Jock

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #38

    if we get 6 points from the next two games (fingers crossed) we are in a really good place for the Month of Carnage

    But very, very interesting that would be too – when was the last time we were playing three of the top 4 after 10 games in the PL when we sitting 4th/maybe 3rd 🙂

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  • WWJBD

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #39

    Haha true Thump but I only brought it up because I was curious of catchy statement

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  • JAMSHA

    Oct 31, 2011 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #40

    Game will be shown live in india at 1.24am 🙂 cnt wait.

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