Cabaye And Marveuax Will Miss Next Game – Best Also Injured


Newcastle started the game against Everton yesterday without Shola Ameobi, Cheick Tiote and Mike Williamson, but the ended the game with three more players injured.

Ryan Taylor – mobbed after great goal yesterday

Before the game early  yesterday,  Shola Ameobi had been interviewed and said he hoped to be be fit again from his hamstring injury for the visit to Manchester City in a  couple of weeks time.

But during the game yesterday Newcastle lost star man Yohan Cabaye in the first half,  with a groin strain, but he came off without playing on,  and hopefully it’s not too bad.

Dan Gosling got a deserved run-out yesterday and did quite well, but in the second half both Sylvain Marveaux and Leon Best picked up injuries, and were replaced by Sammy Ameobi and Ben Arfa respectively.

Both did the job for Newcastle yesterday, with Sammy looking particularly good with a few good runs down the left wing, especially late in the game.

And the younger brother of Shola showed his promise once again, with those long, lanky legs of his – and he must be difficult for defenders to mark.

Leon Best’s wife is expecting a baby, and with his injury, manager Alan Pardew is wondering whether he will be given a day or two compassionate leave,  before reporting to the Ireland squad, until his wife delivers:

” ‘Leon’s wife is imminent and they are in discussions.”  “He is desperate to play, don’t get me wrong.”

“We have spoken to the manager and spoken to the medical team about maybe a bit of compassion in terms of him staying about today because she’s that close, so we will see.”

“Cabaye felt his groin, Best hurt his toe and groin and Sylvain did his groin as well” “When you get clipped like that, it opens up the groin. Two of them were identical kinds of injury. “

‘My guess is both those will miss the next game at] Manchester City, but we will have to wait and see.” “We are probably missing too many at the moment – no Cheik, no Obertan, no Sylvain, no Cabaye, no Shola.”

“We are a little bit down on numbers, so it would be nice to get a couple back for two weeks’ time.’

One good thing about the injury situation is that Shola has a good chance to be ready and Cheick Tiote should almost certainly return for the next game.

And with Danny Guthrie looking the part for the Magpies in the last three games, Tiote and Guthrie will be a good central midfield partnership until Yohan can return, probably for the game at Manchester United in three weeks time.

And Mike Williamson should be  a lot closer to returning,  and Newcastle have been exposed since he’s been out injured, because there’s only James Perch available should either the captain Coloccini  or Steven Taylor be injured.

That situation should be remedied in the January transfer window,  when Newcastle will bring in another center-back, and with the lads doing so well, three new players in January would be good to further strengthen the squad for the run-in to the season.

It was a difficult game yesterday, but once again Newcastle players worked their socks off for the cause, especially in that second half, and they got all 3 points.

Good teams find a way to win when they are having a bad time of it, and that’s exactly what Newcastle did yesterday, and that’s to their immense credit.

And  Alan Pardew must have been as exhausted as the players at the final whistle, as he was cajoling his players on, and ensuring they kept their shape throughout the game.

But it was yet another win for Pardew and Newcastle, and the 50 year-old Londoner is fast becoming the talk of the Toon these days with the unbelievable start his Newcastle side have made this season.

Long may it continue.

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33 comments so far

  • p

    Nov 6, 2011 at 6:21 AM

    Comment #1

    Tough deal, just when you want your best players.

    I don’t think we will get anything from the next 2 games but I think we should get at least a point from Chelsea.

    In the grand scheme of things that would not be bad.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Nov 6, 2011 at 6:29 AM

    Comment #2

    As much as i hate being childish it looks like i am actually posting first on a blog artikle!

    Good three points again yesterday! Hoping that Cabaye and Marveaux are too injured to get called up for international duty next week!
    They probably need to be rested anyway! Cabaye certainly does! and Marvaux will be pissed off about finally getting his chance only to come off crocked!

    If Tiote comes back against Shitty then we may have a small chance of getting a point at their place like !

    But don,t hold your breath, it will be our most difficult test so far this term! Actually it won,t bother me if we lose the next three, with the start we have had, we can accumulate enough points after that to ensure a good run in for the last few months of the season.

    Not sure if its good to be arrogant and expect a point away to the prospective champions, the trick is to try and get a point without getting more people injured!

    The Scum played well against Manure yesterday but still lost, actually found myself hoping that they would steal a point on Fergusons big day! But then hey! A win for them at Old Trafford is a “big ask”!

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Nov 6, 2011 at 6:32 AM

    Comment #3

    P:
    You just pipped me to the post!

    Being an opyimistic old sod! Am hoping for three draws in our next three games!

    HWTL

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  • toonarmy1986

    Nov 6, 2011 at 7:31 AM

    Comment #4

    International break is perfect timing for us with one or two players picking up niggling little injuries which should hopefully be fine for 2 weeks time and the players just looked in need of a rest to recuperate. Are Argentina playing? could do with Jonas getting a rest.

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  • toonbrother

    Nov 6, 2011 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #5

    That was a guess on Pardew’s part not a concrete prediction. I’m sure he has no idea how long Marveaux and Cabaye will be out for.
    I dont think Best is under any real threat of missing the next game. If he was, he’d be out of the Ireland game as well. I couldnt care less about Shola but i’m definitely concerned about Cabaye and Marveaux. My take is we need to draft Mehdi Abeid and Haris Vuckic into the first team asap. Abeid apparently plays the right wing quite well and could be a starter in the absence of Obertan and Marveaux. Vuckic could provide back up for Tiote and Guthrie in Cabaye’s absence.

    Line up versus City (if Cabaye and Marveaux dont make it back to full fitness)

    ……………..Krul.
    Simmo..Colo..Taylor….Raylor
    Abeid…Guthrie…Tiote..Jonas
    …………..Best….Ba

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  • Graeme

    Nov 6, 2011 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #6

    Against shitty I expect us to play 4-5-1 and try and grab a goal on the break. I can see us getting a hard fought point. QPR almost managed it yesterday and we have a far better defence and a much higher work rate!!

    I think we will also get a point at Manure, they have not been playing well and were fortunate to beat the Scum yesterday; we could also nick a win, but that may be taking optimism to new levels lol.

    We will get 3 points of Chelsea. Its at SJP and if we play like we did yesterday, we can win it. So, 5 points from next 9?? I think we can do it – shit, that will cause the pundits major headaches lol

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  • magpiebop

    Nov 6, 2011 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #7

    Whilst I don’t like to see any of our players injured, at least we are fortunate that our injuries are in midfield and attack where we have plenty of cover. Can see players coming in like Vuckic and taking their chance!

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  • cupiddstunt

    Nov 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #8

    This collection of injuries could be a blessing in disguise, we have performed reasonably well up till now and were going well in the first half until players started to fall.

    Now it should be quite clear to MA that we cannot progress without replacement players in position, the more long term successful teams have deeper squads and that should be our next target, utility players are all well and good but we need more quality back up.

    If we do succeed in staying in the top six or seven then we will need plenty of bodies to cover the number of game that will be coming up in the following season.

    P @ # 1

    I watched the highlights and I know that they can be deceiving but I think all three teams have leaky defences and ours is quite sound, there are games this season that we should have lost but for our defence and I feel that the same can happen over the next three games, as I have posted before I would be more than happy with three points from the next three games.

    In truth any combination of 3, 5, 7, or 9 points would be incredible (as long as the 3 is 3 single points) 😉 🙂

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  • bills-son

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #9

    Got to say I think Cabaye, good player that he is, has been slightly overhyped. The way Guthrie has played the last three games I think there is little to choose between them and Guthrie might even just have the edge.

    If Cabaye and Tiote are both fit for City I’d play Guthrie wide right as Marveaux and Oba wont play. Guthrie’s defensive qualities and work rate will be ideal for the next three games.

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  • toonbrother

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #10

    Bill-son thats a very ignorant comment. Cabaye has transformed the way we play football. Thats how influential he has been. Unlike many jumping on Guthrie bandwaggon here I have rated Danny since he played under Keegan . As good as he is, he is nowhere as good as Cabaye in terms of vision or ability to impose his style on his teammates and opponents. Without Cabaye the framework within which Newcastle currently operate would be non-existent. Show some gratitude dude

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  • Lee Dodd

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #11

    I think we all reccon we wont get a greeat deal from thenext 2 away games but we have a better chance than we have had in a long time so just don’t be supprised if we get a draw or 2 . Chelsea we will turn over as there not to clever at the moment either… BUT we do need a few new faces a new striker and a centre half is a must .. we have HBA – SANTON- to step in so we do have bodies but need fitness to be Key !!

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  • Benton Toon Exile

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #12

    bills-son. You are very welcome to your opinion, but mate really!
    Cabaye is a fantastic player, if you get to the match watch him closely and you will change your mind. He has everything in his game and will be a huge player IF we can hold into him!

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  • moonraker

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #13

    bills-son

    I agree with your point about Cabaye; he’s good but a bit lightweight for the PL. If Guthrie continues to improve we will have another good ‘un. Still no complaints going great.
    HWTL

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  • magpiebop

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #14

    It’s good that even wii 3 or 4 injuries in midfield we have good cover and cover on the bench.

    4-4-1-1 Vs Man City

    Krul.
    Simpson,STaylor,Collocini(c),RTaylor.
    Santon,Guthrie,Tiote,Guttierez.
    Ba.
    Best.

    Subs- Elliot, Williamson, Abeid, Vuckic, SAMeobi, Ben Arfa, Ameobi.

    Bring Santon in at right wing against City, wii his extra defensive qualities he can help oot Simpson. Man City haven’t played anyone yet! Let’s see how good their title credentials really are when we hand them tha ass in a sling.

    ALAN PARDEWS
    BLACK AND WHITE ARMY

    HAWAY THE LADS

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  • Benton Toon Exile

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #15

    This will make you laugh but I also think Pardew is making a player of Shola!

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  • Benton Toon Exile

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #16

    Not sure Pardew fancies Santon! Something not right there!

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  • toonbrother

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #17

    I think Pardew rates Santon highly based on what he has said in the press. Santon’s problem is the recent form shown by Raylor. Personally I think Raylor will be exposed defensively against better right wingers like Nani as he was against WrightPhillps in the QPR game. That Left back position is Santon’s longterm

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  • magicmac

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #18

    It might be a bridge to far to expect anything away to man city, and man utd, but you just never know, but i would be very confident that Newcastle can beat chelsea at home, i think chelsea are a pale shadow of the team they used to be, and a lot of thier players are past thier best i think, they dont have much pace in thier team, and i think john terrys lack of pace can be exposed by demba ba, and leon best, i honestly dont think we have a lot to fear with chelsea, and if we do get anything from our visits to city and united, we will be very confident going into the chelse match. ha way the lads.

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  • toonbrother

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #19

    @those suggesting Guthrie be played on the right wing.

    Guthrie has been played there in the past and didnt do very well. He is best played in the centre of the park. Besides Obertan’s strength was pace and his tendency to take on players. That has given Newcastle a vital release valve when we we’ve been under pressure away from home. If we are going to survive the Manchester trips we will need someone who can play that role comfortably. Abeid doesnt have as much pace but he has the trickery and energy to play the role in my humble opinion

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  • UpTheRoad

    Nov 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #20

    Anyone fancy a different formation with the injuries?

    Krul
    Simpson Taylor Coloccini Raylor

    Guthrie Tiote

    Marveaux? Gutierrez

    Ben Arfa

    Ba?

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  • magpiebop

    Nov 6, 2011 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #21

    Guthrie can’t play the wing. Guthrie likes to be in the thick of it winning the ball and spraying passes and when played wide always drifts infield leaving his fullback exposed!
    Guthrie is a box to box player simple as that. Much better to play our wide players such as Santon, SAMeobi, Ferguson, Moyo and Abeid in the wing positions in the absense of Obertan and Marveaux.
    Guttierez is a certain starter against the best teams for me but wii his work rate we need to rest him on occasion to keep him fresh for the season if we want to maintain a challenge at the top and wii the options we have can afford to do just that!

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  • bills-son

    Nov 6, 2011 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #22

    toonbrother @ 10 – what do you mean an ignorant comment?

    I said Cabaye is a good player, its just my opinion he has been a bit overhyped. I have no doubt that Cabaye will be an even better player for us in the second half of the season when he is had another 10 games in the Prem. I’ve always rated Guthrie and I thought his display yesterday was top notch. He’s been carrying injuries for the past 18 months and I reckon he might surprise a few fans now that he is 100% fit and playing in a confidfent side.

    As for Guthrie not being a wide right player – neither was Barton and thats where he played his best for us. I dont see Guthrie there permanently but with Oba and Marveaux out and away games to City and Man U imo we need his energy and workrate in midfield. If Cabaye is out Guthrie will play CM with Tiote and it will be interesting to see who Pards plays wide right – Guti can play there with Sami on the left but that might leave Raylor exposed. Over to you Pards.

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  • Incentino

    Nov 6, 2011 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #23

    It is unfortunate that so many of our players are injured now, but thanks to the brilliant moves in the transfermarket, the club still should be able to feature a pretty solid side.

    ———————————— Krul

    ——————S. Taylor —————-Coloccini

    Simpson/Santon —————————————-R. Taylor

    ——————- Tiote ————– Guthrie

    Sammy ——————-Ben Arfa —————Gutierrez

    ——————————– Ba

    The bench isn’t exactly going to feature any superstars though.

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  • keeeef

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #24

    Anybody else worried this could be the end of Marveaux for quite some time? Story was Pools passed him not because he was unfit at the time or failed any test, but his history and his body show him to be a very poor healer, especially with groin/thigh type issues. He’s twice now turned what should be ‘a few weeks out’ in to multiple surgery, multiple months long rehabilitation. Don’t forget the gambles we took, may still bite us in the a..

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  • sparetheman

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #25

    Completely agree with bills-son. Cabaye has done very well and looks a fine player but I wouldn’t say he’s stood out as the player that’s “transformed” us, as toonbrother believes (what’s transformed us is the collective unit working better than ever before). I think we’ve seen this season that sometimes play can pass Cabaye by for long periods of a game because I’m not sure he has the same sort of presence as someone like Tiote does. As long as Cabaye continues to improve and be effective when he’s on the ball though then that’s all we really need from him.

    Also agree that Guthrie would be fine on the right-wing ala Barton last year – he can cross a ball just as well as Barton could. He did it on many occasions in our Championship season and got a fair few assists.

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  • toonbrother

    Nov 6, 2011 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #26

    @sparetheman . First of all, Barton was never really a winger for Newcastle a la Obertan or Gillespie . He was a right midfielder and unlike Barton, when Guthrie has been played on the right in the past he has not been comfortable. This is not conjecture , this is a fact. Right now its important to have players playing roles in which they are comfortable and accustomed to playing which is why I dont think Jonas should be moved to the right.

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  • toonbrother

    Nov 6, 2011 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #27

    When I say Cabaye transformed Newcastle I mean he has been the main catalyst in creating the passing football game Newcastle currently plays. Problem with low-key elegant players like Cabaye is they dont get the attention their play truly deserves. Instead its flamboyant types like Jonas and Colocinni who get all the attention.

    As recently as last season our game consisted of hoofing the ball up to a big man be it Carroll, Viduka or Ameobi to knock it down for a smaller guy be it Owen, Martins or Nolan. We were playing this way even when Guthrie, Colocinnin and Jonas have been in the side.

    Since Cabaye joined Newcastle, have slowly grown in confidence to play the ball on the ground and pass the ball intelligently. Guthrie might be good enough to fit into that passing framework but he is clearly not good enough to influence his teammates into playing that kind of football. We owe Cabaye a lot for ushering in the brand of football Newcastle currently plays even though I agree with you that team work of the collective unit has been key to our success.

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  • sparetheman

    Nov 6, 2011 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #28

    “First of all, Barton was never really a winger for Newcastle a la Obertan or Gillespie . He was a right midfielder and unlike Barton, when Guthrie has been played on the right in the past he has not been comfortable. This is not conjecture , this is a fact.”

    Clearly this is your opinion rather than a fact. It takes quite a lot of arrogance to suggest otherwise!

    My opinion is he’s done the wide midfield role quite well in the past (if we’re worrying about the pendantics between a winger and a wide midfielder… not that I even called Barton a winger? “Wide midfielders” play on the wing as well no?) and I’d give him a go there if Cabaye and Tiote are back for the City game.

    At the end of the day though I realise it’s not the only way to go and I don’t want to be another fan who thinks their opinion is almighty. Got to put trust in Pardew to pick the right team on the day with the way things have been going.

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  • magpiebop

    Nov 6, 2011 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #29

    toonbrother totally agree wii comments @26 @27 sounds like you’ve been watching the same games as me. A season ticket holder no doubt!

    Much rather play our wingers on the wing and central players in the centre. Haway sparetheman it’s better to establish a pecking order for players in their specialised positions and better for team moral also.

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  • moonraker

    Nov 6, 2011 at 7:16 PM

    Comment #30

    A couple of threads that keep appearing in these comments; one is whether we can maintain our position and the other is the feeling that we wont hold onto our best players.

    My opinion is a lot of folk have forgotten how big we are in PL terms. We are one of the top teams in support and reputation.

    Any player who wants to leave Newcastle at the present time is mad (or greedy) or cant get in the squad.

    As far as staying in the top 6 (maybe even 4) if you’ve been watching our performances there should be no doubt, especially if we strengthen in January. Mike Ashley knows he’s onto something big because he will have a fantastic vehicle to promote SD, and he aint gonna miss that opportunity, so he will spend money.

    There is no limit to what the Toon can achieve; the club is liks a huge juggenaut and gathering momentum.

    Like the great KK once said, “we’ve created a monster and we’ve gotta keep feeding it” meaning adding to and changing the squad.

    The good times are coming back; lets show the confidence that the players are showing, instead of negativity and caution.

    Howay the Lads; Man city wont win every game at home this season; I’ll put money on that; and if QPR can score 2 against them, we can definitely give them a game!

    Howay the Lads 🙂

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  • Munster Mag

    Nov 6, 2011 at 8:40 PM

    Comment #31

    Is anyone else getting concerned re Ben Arfa ? Pards clearly believes in 4-4-2, and this doesnt allow him to play in an advanced position , once both strikers are playing well. This surely isnt what BA expected, or will put up with??

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  • Real Toon Army Fan

    Nov 6, 2011 at 10:30 PM

    Comment #32

    We have done really really well so far this season so far, this the first time i have put comment up on here this season as well, i thought we would need more players before this season started, i know we need some now cuss of the injuries we have, but fair play to mike ashley in getting shot of the high wage earners, i wanted him out put i think he is running the club ok, after all he is a business man,

    but like the old chairman said a Geordie for gives but never for gets.so only time will tell with him.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Nov 7, 2011 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #33

    Moonraker@30:

    Spot on with your comments! And i like the Positivity in what you are saying!
    It may be obvious, but the way to stay where we are is to just keep winning or drawing our games! Our unbeaten run is bound to end sooner or later, the injuries are a concern though and it might be wise to rest certain players for certain games! Cabaye, Marveaux,Oba and Best might be out with injuries anyway!

    Munster Mag @ 31-

    HBA is happy with us and is having problems adapting to the English game! He was really happen with how he was handled by the club during his rehabilitation from a double leg break! He did,nt play for more than a year!
    All the “Get wel soon”messages etc had a profound affect on him.

    He comes back after a major injury like that and a lot of people on here are expecting him to be banging in goals every game “a la Messi”, so to speak! Give the kid more time to adapt and don,t be so concerned!
    He,ll be fine and will come good . Some of the posters on here are expecting too much too soon from him.

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