This Is Newcastle’s Third Best Start Ever In The Premier League

25 points from the first 11 games is the third best start ever to a Premier League season by Newcastle.

Kevin Keegan in 1996 – I’d love it – I’d just love it

And it’s only behind the first two seasons that Newcastle ever spent in the Premier League, back in the 1990s when the great Kevin Keegan was managing The Entertainers, in the 1994-1995 and 1995-1996 seasons.

Courtesy of here are the records of the best five seaosns Newcastle have ever had in the Premier League after 11 games played in chronological order:

Position: 1st Pts: 29 Finish: 6th

Position: 1st Pts: 28 Finish: 2nd

Position: 2nd Pts: 24 Finish: 2nd

Position: 4th Pts: 20 Finish: 4th

Position: 3rd Pts: 25 Finish: ??

Note that this season’s start is better than the best start Sir Bobby Robson ever had at Newcastle,  when Bobby had Newcastle on 20 points and in 4th position back in 2001, his second full season as the Newcastle manager.

And also note that Kevin Keegan had  three of the best five starts in his first three seasons with Newcastle in the Premier League – we were really flying high in those days.

And by the way last season after 12 games Newcastle were in 5th position in the PL before a bad run of  form in the next 5 games saw Mike Ashley fire manager Chris Hughton fired.

Alan Pardew is proud of Newcastle’s terrific start to the season and rightly so:

“It was important for us because you want to have that on your CV,”

“These players are going to have that on their CVs, the best start since this club has been formed – 1951, I think, was the other time.” (What’s he talking about?)

“That was something we had our eye on, and also to go to Manchester City unbeaten because you need confidence like that if you are going to take a team on of their power.”

“After Barcelona, Manchester United and Manchester City might be second or third in that group of the best in Europe. We are going to the best in Europe in the next two games and we couldn’t be better placed to do it.”

We’re not sure what Alan is talking about – 1951 being the best other start – now that we see how we did in our best five Premier League seasons above, which is a more real measure for today’s game.

And in 1951 Newcastle didn’t make a very good start to the season,  and finally finished up in 8th place in the old Division One.

Although we did win the FA Cup by annihilating Blackpool 2-0 in the final that year. 😀

And who scored Newcastle’s goals in that game?

Who else but the great Jackie Milburn – what a player!

87 comments so far

  • angelswithdirtyfaces

    Nov 6, 2011 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #1

    Three or four points from the next three games would keep us in tht top 6.
    Gooners picking up speed now and Spuds so it should get even more interesting…

  • angelswithdirtyfaces

    Nov 6, 2011 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #2

    Three or four points from the next three games would keep us in the top 6.
    Gooners picking up speed now and Spuds so it should get even more interesting…

  • toonLYF

    Nov 6, 2011 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #3

    Sick of people saying we haven’t played anyone, I though this was the premier league? The toughest in the world? Where every game is a challenge? Apparently not lads, apparently there’s only 3 teams or so worth playing and the others just make up the numbers. People need to shut up, and I f-ing hate Mark lawro, last night all he could say was “Newcastle didn’t even play well”….oh well 3 good games coming up, with these injuries city is going to be as tough as they come, no team in the world playing football better than city ATM. United, who? 1 point there, thank you…and in my opinion spurs are better than Chelsea right now so I fancy the full 3 points at yem

  • Klatoon

    Nov 6, 2011 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #4

    Next 3 games,I’l be happy with 2,over the moon with 4! And not to lose by more than 2 goals 🙂

  • loztoon

    Nov 6, 2011 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #5

    gotta love Lawro..he said we would lose 2-1 and his beloved Liverpool would win 3-0..we were lucky and Liverpool were unlucky according to him..prize prat !!!

  • aussietoonfan

    Nov 6, 2011 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #6

    hey Ed,
    According to what the commentators were claiming during the live telecast down here in Brisbane:

    “These players are going to have that on their CVs, the best start since this club has been formed – 1951, I think, was the other time.” (What’s he talking about?)

    They are referring to how many games they have remained unbeaten to start the season.

    At least that’s what they said:)

  • Klatoon

    Nov 6, 2011 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #7

    Just watched R.Madrid stroll to a 7-1 win and it got me wondering;how would Real and Barca do in EPL? IMO they would have to work much harder for wins.

  • NUFCBrunei

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #8

    Well if we win all the games against the teams outside top 6, 26 wins, 12 loses = 78points. Thats definitely top 4.

  • loztoon

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #9

    @Klatoon..sad to say that a lot of our less cultured teams would just kick the cr*p out of them,so we would never see them at their best…

  • nobby sol

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #10

    —–simpson coloccini taylor taylor
    benarfa gosling tiote guthrie gutierrez

    defend for our lives

  • AP's Black & White Army

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #11

    We didn’t amass 25pts, until our 20th match last year.

  • toonLYF

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #12

    Nobby that’s probably my team too, obviously cabaye in for gosling if he’s fit…a centre midfield of guthrie tiote and cabaye would be a tough time for any team

  • PK-Norway

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #13

    We should def go for 4-5-1 against city and maybe use sammy arfa and ba to counter attack..

  • toonashwin

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #14

    tiote will be fit for next match !!!!! yipeee
    some good news in perspective of next game

  • howway geordies

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #15

    We were unbeaten in the first 11 games (5 wins, 6 draws) of season 1950-51.

  • toonashwin

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:37 PM

    Comment #16

    apart from topic
    try to touch the nose of person with cursor in link given below

  • toonfan76

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #17

    You know all this talk about our team needing a superstar to push us on to the next level, I can remember a certain Greek team that didn’t have a team of superstars and they won the Euros. Not saying we’re gonna win the prem or anything like that but it doesn’t take a team full of superstars to be able to win things, but it does take a TEAM. HWTL

  • PK-Norway

    Nov 6, 2011 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #18

    I agree toonfan76. Its about teamspirit and we shall see how long it will last for us.

  • moonraker

    Nov 6, 2011 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #19

    totally off topic but did anyone see the report about the Chelsea fans away at Genk in the CL chanting, “Anton Ferdinand you know what you are” in an obvious reference to the John Terry affair.

    Don’t like to steriotype people, but I just cant imagine that happening with ouf fans. But then cockneys are superior of course! Not!

  • Klatoon

    Nov 6, 2011 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #20

    Rodallega with a contender for miss of the season but it’l be hard to beat Torres who already has 2

  • catchy in norway

    Nov 6, 2011 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #21

    im pretty sick of motd and most others saying we are in a false position like only man u chelsea man c liverpool and arsenal have a god given right to fill the top 5 spots,

    from what iv seen so far this season only man c have been on fire, the others are just stumbling along, chelsea have lost 3 already arsenal have lost 4, i watched man u yesterday and they looked far from a good side, im not saying these are bad teams , but there only doing no better than us, regardless of how much there teams cost, and lets face it, other than man u, the others are trying to buy the title, and this fact never gets mentioned,

    i dont fear man u at the moment,, they have some great plyers, there not really playing together as a team right now, nor are chelsea, we are hard to break down , and i fancy us to sneak draws against them, man c though, look awesome this season,

    well done toon army , long may it continue 🙂

  • Toonboy_84

    Nov 6, 2011 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #22

    Wigan are dead certs for relegation imo. Shame really cuz I like Martinez.

  • Thump

    Nov 6, 2011 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #23

    I’m pretty glad that all the pundits are saying “false position, they’ll never be there come the end of the season” because it gives the lads even more reason to keep on fighting. If we can get some results over the next few games, then we’ll be sorted.

    Think about it: Sunderland could have held Man U off to a draw if it wasn’t for Brown’s OG. Given we have a better squad, I think we can come away with with at least a point from Man U. Chelsea are another team we could very realistically take something from. Man City is the worry though, as long as we preserve some semblance of a goal difference, I’ll be pretty happy.

    Going to City on the back of 3 points is a massive bonus too. Give me a point now and I’ll be happy haha

  • Ian Magpie

    Nov 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #24

    Howay lads! Imagine………just imagine, what the so called pundits on MOTD would say if we beat Man City in their own back yard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Imagine the look on Mark Lawrensons face!!!!and come to think of it, imagine the lok on big Als face!!! Enough of the worrying about Shittey, lets go their and do them!!!Bring it on! Lets show the world we are NEWCASTLE UNITED!!!!

  • Hugh Jorgan

    Nov 6, 2011 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #25

    It’s time for us to become Fulham fans for the next couple of hours !

  • Thump

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #26

    That’s a good point, Ian.

    I mean… Lawro will expect us to lose and I think he has a 100% failure rate with us this season. He’s going to create a paradox. Oh god.

  • shamsoftabriz

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #27

    That last part about being “well placed” to go to Man City is rubbish. If we have Cabaye, Tiote, Best, Marveaux, and Obertan we’re pretty well placed. But without that group I’d say we’re rather poorly placed. Doesn’t mean we can’t give it a go, though. With the African Cup of Nations coming up, and with the sudden spate of injuries, we simply must be active in January. Early in January.

  • geordieupontyne

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #28

    i kinda like the notion from stupid pundits that rate our team so damn takes off the pressure and this has shown really good results.many teams have now played us thinking…”oh..they are just having a good run.” and suddenly they find that we just cant be beaten.i think everyone rating us as an underdog is paying dividends.anyway….do wish for TWO really good strikers in Jan.whats this thing about Bent???

  • soundoid

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #29

    Looks like bolton have been watching the Newcastle Stoke match.

  • GeordieGerman

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #30

    soundoid, I said it would be a blueprint for other teams.

    AP is probably sitting at home watching Man C. games and looking for chinks in their Armour.

  • soundoid

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #31

    Yeah i think we’ve ruined Stoke’s season.

    As for city, they have only played 2 top teams same as us… but they did smash them up.

    Going to be a cracking game,

  • alip123

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #32

    @30 – is Kompany banned for our match? cos Savic was City’s weak link yesterday. I think we need to be brave and attack as well. we have nowt to lose, let’s go and see what we can do

  • soundoid

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #33

    Kompany was straight red as i remember.

  • soundoid

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #34

    5-0 bolton.

  • joppadoni

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #35

    anyone know the sopcast channel for the spurs match lads?

  • joppadoni

    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #36

    @toonashwin – mental 😀 lol


    Nov 6, 2011 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #37

    Alright lads just out of work looking up the news of the day…must say I am very worried about the Colo contract story nothing came out before Guti had signed up whereas plenty came out before Barton Nolan Simpson and Jose failed to sign theirs

    Big respect to the Bolton lads hammering Stoke hope it kick starts their season into gear and their players stay fit. Holden and their asian winger are both very good players and Coyle is a good manager dont deserve to go down imo

  • Thump

    Nov 6, 2011 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #38

    @shamsoftabriz: Yeah I mean the match would be far easier if we were in, say, 19th, wouldn’t it?

    Honestly, we haven’t had word about how the bad the injuries are, Tioté will be back, I doubt Cabaye’s injury is that bad if he played on for 10 or so minutes after feeling it and Marveaux might be a blow to the team but lest we forget a certain French lad we signed last season who can do a job on the wings. Admittedly not the easiest full start we could give him but let’s be honest, he can’t hide away from City all of his life because of the thug.

  • joppadoni

    Nov 6, 2011 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #39

    thump i think marv will be back sooner than is being said as he twqeaked his groin and stopped as soon as he felt it. that kind of injury requires a weeks total rest and then a couple of days light training before step up over about another 4 days he should be fine in two weeks assuming no reoccurance ofc. cabayes injury i still dont know what it is and we prolly wont know for sure till tuesday but again i dont see how alan can say anything right now as the club hasnt got a full assessment report. i think its mainly propaganda myself

  • shamsoftabriz

    Nov 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #40

    @Thump The match would be neither easier nor more difficult were we in 19th place. I think we disagree on an issue of semantics here. Newcastle are what they are–3rd, 10th, 19th, whatever. At any rate, we have nothing to lose–who knows. City are supremely talented, but they are also prone to lapses in judgment. Get Balotelli upset. Goad Nigel de Thong into lashing out with one of his trademark karate kicks right in front of the ref. Frustrate them and hound them and you never know. They’re good, yes; but someone will beat them this year. Why not us. But I’d prefer Cabaye’s groin to be 100% and Tiote to be 100% and Obertan’s pace to be available and Best to be fit. Tough enough with them on the pitch….without them, it’s all hands on deck.


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