Andy Carroll Worth Nowhere Near £35M – Derek LLambias

Derek Llambias doesn’t think Andy Carroll is worth anywhere near the £35M that Liverpool paid for the player last January.

Andy Carroll when the local lad was at Newcastle

And in the foul mouthed language Derek seems to use in everyday life, his actual statement about Andy Carroll was:

“He’s worth f*** all!”

Derek’s blast against Carroll and Liverpool came during a meeting in a Newcastle bistro, when he was trying to give invited fans some insights into the behind the scenes activities at Newcastle, and how the club is run.

Andy Carroll, at £35M is the most expensive England player ever, but he has recently been left out of the England squad and has not done as well at Liverpool as he did at Newcastle.

But there again,  Liverpool are hardly playing to the Gateshead lad’s strengths.

And Derek Llambias could well be right when he says that Newcastle got the better of the deal, but that money has still not been invested back into the club, as was promised by Alan Pardew in early February.

Details of the deal are coming out, and it seems Livberpool’s first bid was £30M, which Newcastle turned down, and then the next bid was £35M,  which Newcastle also turned down unless it was paid upfront in cash.

And amazingly Liverpool acceded to that demand, which was the idea of owner Mike Ashley, and it was a great deal for Newcastle United in retrospect.

But of course we still don’t know how good Andy will become,  and although he’s had a disappointing start to his Liverpool career, he could still come through big time for both Liverpool and England.

This is what Derek LLmabias said about the Carroll transfer:

“I have to admit that £30M for Andy Carroll is a lot of money.”   “Is he worth £30m?”  “No — he’s worth f*** all.”

 “It is about control.”  “We had the control. We knew the Torres deal was there.”  “We drew that f****** deal, perhaps the ultimate.”

“So £30m? F*** off! Don’t waste my time and I slammed the phone down.”  “£35M? Everybody including Alan Pardew all agreed.”

“But the £35M they wanted to pay over four years. It was rubbish. Mike Ashley said — and he is a brave boy Mike I promise you — get all the £35M up front.”

“We got it all up front and then they never paid us on time and we charged them 12 grand f****** interest.”

Needing the money up front forced Liverpool to ask Chelsea to increase their first instalment of the £50M they had already agreed to pay Liverpool for Fernando Torres, simply because of the deal Newcastle were able to strike for Andy Carroll.

We don’t like the way Llambias and Ashley sometimes  come over at Newcastle, not at all,  but we have to admit, in terms of pure business deals, they have made some very good ones over the last 18 months for Newcastle, and the Andy Carroll deal was maybe the best of them.

That’s in retrospect of course, and if Andy was blazing the trail at Liverpool and for England,  we might have a different opinion on that, and it could still happen that way for the local lad.

It’s nearly a year on from that deal, and even if the club are getting just 5% interest on the £35M, that’s another £1.75M into the Newcastle coffers.

And that’s another two or three players into Newcastle,  at the rates Newcastle pay for their players  these days. 😀

Comments welcome.

35 comments so far

  • Dannyo

    Nov 13, 2011 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #1

    Will be interesting to read the NUFC statement on this one…


    Nov 13, 2011 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #2

    Of course he isn’t worth 35 mill Liverpool didn’t buy the player we had they bought they player Carroll can become.

  • Widowmaker

    Nov 13, 2011 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #3

    DL is a joke

  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 13, 2011 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #4

    hard to argue with llambias though is it?

    I think it’s great we’ve got a ruthless hard case like him, who isn’t all namby pamby with players and agents and won’t let us get shafted any more. You don’t have to personally like the guy.

  • PapaToon

    Nov 13, 2011 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #5

    I know not very professional but depends where he was making these comments and to whom. I dont mind it though as hes not saying anthing against the club or fans unlike fat freddy. Also in previous regimes we were always the suckers. They arent gonna make all of us happy with every decision they have to make but overall if the club is progressing like it is then let it be.

  • Widowmaker

    Nov 13, 2011 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #6

    No, but u don’t make the stupidity of ur customer public. It’s not only professional but also childish. This man is a disgrace

  • bills-son

    Nov 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #7

    So we ask for more communication from the club – there it is in laymans terms.

    I’ve read other comments made at the same time by DL about Shearer, KK and Hughton which are not complimentary.

    Management are paid and judged by the results of the decisions they make. Management, good and bad, ALWAYS make decisions that are unpopular. For the past 3 years MA and DL have got the big decisions right even though fans disagreed at the time.

    You can’t argue with the manager we have, the squad we have and our position in the Prem. Any argument against MA and DL needs to be judged against those facts.

  • Brutooon

    Nov 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #8

    I am mad when Andy Carroll is sold in January

    and with no proper replacement during the summer window

    But look back, it is one piece of business we made there. 35 million for a player who only played half a season at the premierleague.

  • Graeme

    Nov 13, 2011 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #9

    Nothing he said is incorrect, it just could have been done better.

    Getting £35 million for AC was an amazing bit of bussiness which most fans have agreed with, once the shock of him going wore off.

    We have a far better team today as a result, we are 3rd in the league, we are unbeaten in 12 games this season, we are playing some great football – errrrrrr where’s the problem??

  • Lynxie

    Nov 13, 2011 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #10

    Keegan cant handle the pressure? No shit sherlock.
    Andy Carrol is not worth 35 million quid? Wow Derek really has got the cutting edge with his incisive football knowledge. heres another one for you Decka, football is agme played on green stuff and the players all breathe air. tell us something we dont know. The whole world knows we mugged the bin raiders, and find it amusing that for once it was not us getting stiffed.
    Shearer is not a good manager. Well his managerial record hardly leaps to his defence does it, unlike Lee Clark who has started where every good manager should start, with no money in a lower league. How many people actually succeed when placed in a top position without any justification, without actually knowing about the job? I am struggling to think of one. Gordon Brown is a prime example….
    Finally, Chris Hughton is indecisive. Or erm is he? Possibly. Erm I dunno, maybe, yes. Or no, probably. We have all witnessed his ‘rabbit in the headlights’ impersonation when making substitutions. He was tactically inept at Premier league level,fact. Hell of a nice guy, though, and will always be fondly rememberes for his time at Newcastle. Something with which Fat Mick and Dopey Decka will never achieve thanks to thier lairy gobshite attitude.

  • daztoon

    Nov 13, 2011 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #11

    Yeah bill-son they got all the big decisions right thats why we got relegated

  • Demba_Ba

    Nov 13, 2011 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #12

    dont hold back derek say it how it is

  • ArtyH

    Nov 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #13

    I’ve supported NUFC for the last 50 years! No one likes the management, only John Hall springs to mind who changed our profile in the 90’s had the supporters respect. I initially thought M.A was going to be great for us and being with the supporters at the start it all looked good. However when reality dawned and the impact of him not doing the due diligence hit home it all changed as he found out how much we were in debt. It had to be contained and reversed, it was always going to be difficult, painful and embarrassing. BUT look where we are NOW, its great and we are playing football too.
    I just want to see good football played on the pitch, and I personally dont care if its on one called ” ANYTHING YOU ****ING WANT.COM. We in our hearts will know it as St James Park, so whats the problem. M.A bought the club to make money he is entitled to some renumeration for his outlay, afterall if FFS was still in charge with the debt we were in we COULD have been playing LEEDS for the last couple of years.
    Dont like Lame Arse but the comments he made were not taken in the fullest context and quoted to make him look a fool which may would be to willing to belive.
    I look at the table and sit back with a contented smile and am proud to be a geordie supporter of my team NUFC, we are in 3rd place you know……..

  • Lynxie

    Nov 13, 2011 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #14

    Aparrently the comments were made directly after the Spuds game, the cynic in me wonders why the media have decidedc to leak it now??? You can read them like a book man, Southern press parasites wiaating to drag us down. Just ignore their shite.

  • GoalsBringSmiles

    Nov 13, 2011 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #15

    I am appalled that some of you so called fans will defend even these comments. The way people like Bills Son come on here and rim the ownership even as more sh1t pours out makes me cringe. I am ashamed and embarassed that fellow NUFC fans can defend this half witted Dellboy of a chairman and his sluggish overseer. The heart of this club is being wrenched out and it doesn’t matter because we are currently fourth? because we aren’t a club in debt? What price would we charge to change our colours? the badge? the name of the club itself? At what point does it stop being the same club we are used to supporting?

    ‘For the past 3 years MA and DL have got the big decisions right even though fans disagreed at the time.’

    The above comment is drastically incorrect and it baffles me that any fan can come out with such misinterpretations of the way our club has been ran and continues to be ran by two money obsessive, ruthless businessmen. Too much passion and love for money and business at this club and unfortunately this obsession is filtering into some fans who are apparently only able to epress their love for this club in financial terms. Where is the passion for NUFC, it’s history, it’s tradition, where has the generation of true football fans gone to? Sports Direct Arena-the home of the women and children of newcastle, the home of middle class morons who have no emotional attachment to our history whose half price season tickets replace saturday afternoons in their conservatories, sitting in their passionless lives, in passionless marriages, in passionless jobs, but hey, they’ve got two cars and their football club is third in the league. Change the name, the colours the badge, who cares we’re third in the leaugue.

  • GoalsBringSmiles

    Nov 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #16

    *currently third rather

  • toonarmyuk

    Nov 13, 2011 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #17

    It makes me so happy to know that regardless what happens at this club, that I am always able and willing to see the positives in everything.

    It must be a bloody hard life for you pessimists who must always find a negative to every single thing that happens in this club.

    Have you ever stopped and thought, that if you actually sat back and realised that no matter how much drivel you come spouting on blog sites that you wont change anything. All you’re doing is getting yourself het up over something which you have no control over.

    Sit back, and just ride the storm. Yes, our MD is a businessman with no football experience before taking this job, and yes he’s arrogant. Yes, our owner is too sensitive to criticism, and yes he’s tight as a nun’s chuff. Yes, the club is tightening the purse strings, and yes we do need a bigger squad.

    BUT, if you can’t be happy with our position at the moment, then what hope for you when we start to lose games (which is inevitable at some stage). Is it your life’s aim to be grumpy old sods who have nothing to look forward to in life? If so, perhaps you can create a new blog called

    Look on the bright side for once. It’s nearly Christmas after all.

  • stephen1971

    Nov 13, 2011 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #18

    i would of carried andy carroll there myself for £15 mill nevermind 35, we,ve got a striker in for free who seems to be even better than carroll (apart from in the air) so that was obviously good buissness, i personally would,nt of took keegan back for a second pop, he let the pressure get to him at every club he was at, even walked out on england after germany game, i can,t say much on chris hughton coz i thought he steadied the ship well and got us back to where we should be , as for shearer , well he,s a legend and i think he came at the worst time possible, when the big players (so called big players) had no interest in scrapping for their lives , so i think DL is right what he says basically only he could of come across a lot better

  • bro56

    Nov 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #19

    DL is a complete arse but I dont want to be his pal, If he can get money working like this then great.

    I must admit, I believe him about Keegan too

  • tiotal football

    Nov 13, 2011 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #20

    he’s hit the nail right on the head
    Although I can’t help but think that this just looks like a drunken rant down the pub to someone

  • Irie-Magpie

    Nov 13, 2011 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #21

    GBS@15, What are you on mate, take it down a notch i think your passion has clouded your perception, would you be happy if we were scrapping it out in the graveyard of english football with a high wage bill and who knows, maybe end up into administration – If the normal joe soap/Family are tighten their financial belts and trying to come up with ways to make some extra money and survive why shouldn’t our beloved club do so aswell so we can live to fight another way (which we’re currently doing 3rd in league)..

  • alienhunter

    Nov 13, 2011 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #22

    “…the home of the women and children of newcastle, the home of middle class morons who have no emotional attachment to our history whose half price season tickets replace saturday afternoons in their conservatories, sitting in their passionless lives, in passionless marriages, in passionless jobs, but hey, they’ve got two cars and their football club is third in the league…”

    This is one of the most surreal, hilarious things I have ever read on a toon forum. I think hes having a breakdown ha ha!!!

  • alienhunter

    Nov 13, 2011 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #23

    .. I’ve never witnessed PMT in a man before…

  • Lee Dodd

    Nov 13, 2011 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #24

    Here We Go Again – Newspaper Shite Stiring Again. Fair Enough we all Know Carroll is Not worth and will never be worth £35 Million Maybe £7 Million at A Push.. Keegan and Shearer Should Never have come back. Chris Got Us up so He will always be a Legend No Matter What .. Del Boy and Ashley Will Never be Legends . Lets Keep the Run Going and to The Mirror and The Mail Once More Just Sod off !!!!

  • GoalsBringSmiles

    Nov 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #25

    alienhunter I don’t blame you for being a halfwit but please refrain from commenting on things you obviously can’t understand if these comments above are what you call responses.

  • Dulcinea

    Nov 13, 2011 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #26

    Are you people really that gullible? This is the most blatant attempt i have ever seen to sabotage Derek LLambias. You really think he’d put himself in that situation, to be saying this? He might be incompetant but…Pile of s***. Some drunken fan at a bar, Stoven drunk.

  • foggonridiculous

    Nov 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #27

    I don’t consider myself gullible….but I don’t fall for conspiracy theories either. IF it’s not true then I’m sure DL will secure substantial damages from the Southern press….all I know is it’s not been denied yet…though perhaps Del is STILL sleeping it iff.

    The only plus point for me is that it makes a deal with Liverpool for Collocini less likely.

    The swearing isn’t the point – the contempt for ex-employees and other clubs is. Not classy, not big or clever. All from a man who criticised the fans for having a go at Andy Carroll when he returned with Liverpool. Integrity my Llambi-arse.

    It’ll be interesting to see if DL is charged by the FA with bringing the game into disrepute.

    The point also needs to be made that if it hadn’t been recorded then it would have been impossible to prove or print and we’d have lost this valuable ‘insight’ into how nasty this little sh*t really is.

    It’s a bad day for the club if this is acceptable behaviour from the club’s MD. Yes, he’s allowed to get p*ssed….but if he shoots his mouth off in a public bar then he can’t complain if he gets grassed up in the press.

    He’ll probably have to fine himself now in line with the treatment of Best and Ireland for that night club photo.

    I’m happy we’re third but it doesn’t mean Del can do whatever he likes whilst we ‘loyally’ applaud…

    HWTL – Howay the lads NOT Howay the Llambias

  • catchy in norway

    Nov 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #28

    this guy is a joke, lol

    he tells us what we already know , trys to push blame everywhere, always builds mike ashley up as if he is god

    everytime something bad happens, he come out and blames everyone else

    on kk, i think everyone of us would cave in to preasure when everyone around you in the club is doing things behind your back,

    on ac, yes we all new he wasnt worth 35mil but leaving it so late probably cost us places in the league

    on shearer, hmmmm, dl empoyed a prick call joe, kept him on way to long and then said to shearer, 8 matches , there you go son, save us ,

    ch, never my choice, but what that guy did was amazing, esp with these 2 clowns baking him up,

    in this interview he really comes across as someone trying hard to act hard, when in reality, he was just a kiss ass kidd and now but licking loon

    derek your an idiot full stop

  • Sav

    Nov 13, 2011 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #29

    Never mind his assessments, do you really want your CEO mouthing off insulting people, former colleagues, in public and in a foul-mouthed, irresponsible way?
    I know people have been sacked for posting less on FB.
    The man is a disgrace and apart from anything else, this can’t have improved the marketability of SJP. Frankly, who would want their brand associated with this pair of scumbags?

  • Sav

    Nov 13, 2011 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #30

    Cue AC to score a hattrick against us when we play the scousers. I’m putting my bet on today. Nice one, Derek.

  • bullsear

    Nov 13, 2011 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #31

    Until the money is reinvested into the club, there’s no way to tell whether Newcastle ended up with the better end of the deal. Sure, Carroll is under performing at Liverpool this season, but that’s largely because Dalgleish isn’t playing to his strengths (or playing him very much at all for that matter). Even if we use the 35M wisely, we’re still out a great player with loads of upswing potential.

  • ToonMatt

    Nov 13, 2011 at 6:21 PM

    Comment #32

    This guy is a parasite and has no class at all.

  • cupiddstunt

    Nov 13, 2011 at 6:55 PM

    Comment #33

    WWJBD @ # 2

    Agreed but I also think they thought they were getting a monster goal scorer that was going to go on to bigger and better things, as yet he might but at the moment he is the most expensive lemon in the PL to date.

    Rotonda heights @ # 4

    Agreed nice to know the folks at the top are not going to be steam-rollered in any negotiations, nice to know that when your in a game of first to blink our men at the top have glass eyes.

    As for GoalsBringSmiles @ # 15

    That has made my night, the descriptive prose in your third paragraph was class,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Although I do not think there was any accuracy in it.

    I think your post was and I will quote your fine self here “ The above comment is drastically incorrect and it baffles me that any fan can come out with such misinterpretations.

    I will add that if such profanity and lies offend you then stop using the monasteries computer for browsing the web, or at least just stick to the porn sites, and did you know browsing them can be habit forming???

    I have to side with alienhunter and assume you are somewhat hormonal at present and should consult the doc, male menopause is real.

  • mkhalaf

    Nov 13, 2011 at 11:24 PM

    Comment #34

    support llambis,, newcastle are doing good, we never got behind ashley after the keegan incident, and to be fair it was all keegans mess…
    CARROLL is not worth 15mil,,, he had only half a season in th prem and was injured at the time..
    BEST BUISNESS DEAL EVA,, ben arfa is betta than him and we got him for 5 mil

  • jakesome

    Nov 15, 2011 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #35

    i work for a major international bank and i can tell you now with a base rate of 0.5 no bank will give 5% on 35mill lookin closer to 0.05%


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