Defensive Errors Cost Newcastle – But Some Good Performances Too

Yes Newcastle were beaten for the first time in the league today at the Etihad Stadium, but there were a lot of positive things that Alan Pardew can take out of this game.

Dan Gosling – first goal for Newcastle today

But bottom line, the Newcastle defense made three mistakes today, and were  punished with three goals, and at the top level that’s what you re up against.

Two Ryan Taylor mistakes just before half time prevented Newcastle going in at the break at 0-0, after playing so well in that first half.

And then a Ben Arfa tackle from behind in the second half gave away another spot kick, and Newcastle were 3-0 down. But no heads were seen to drop and Newcastle tried their best to get back into the game.

And the lads still carved out the chances with Ben Arfa hitting the post after an amazing piece of skill in the second half, and Demba Ba was unlucky not to score in the first half, when put through by Ben Arfa, and Danny Guthrie was also  in the second half when England goalkeeper Joe Hart saved very well, both times low to his left.

And Newcastle did get a goal back just before the end and it was Dan Gosling who got his first goal for Newcastle.

Alan Pardew  seemed pleased enough with the Newcastle performance:

“It’s not often you come up against a team like them,” “They are a very, very good side – a powerful side who caused us a lot of problems.”

“We didn’t have our strongest team out because we were missing one or two today, but we did so well. We had the two best chances of the opening 40 minutes, and if we had got the first goal then it would have been a different game.”

“But the first goal changed the course of it, and it was a good day for Man City because they played very well today. We did too, but they were better than us.”

“We were too deep at times in the first half, but better in the second and more in control of the game. We can take something away from this. They were a strong side and we have to get better – we have to compete against sides like this.”

“We were hoping to offer some threat,” “Hatem did brilliantly to create that first chance for Demba, and nine times out of ten Demba would have scored that.”

“And with Sammy, I thought he had a great game on his first start. I was happy with all the players today.”

Newcastle will not finish high up in the table this season because they beat teams like man United and Man City away from home, and the lads gave it their best today, and they came up short – and there’s no shame in that.

And our boys also had very little luck, as with the chances Newcastle had,  the rebounds always seemed to go to a Man City player, and on another day Newcastle could have had three or even four goals today.

Sammy Ameobi looks a player of the future, and he looked good on the right wing today, and Ben Arfa showed a lot of his best form today, and he’s the type of player Newcastle fans just love to have in their side, and he will help fill St. James’ Park.

Both chances were created by the Frenchman’s magic, and he can feel proud of his first start for Newcastle  since his terrible injury – well done Ben Arfa.

And we thought Steven Taylor epitomized the warrior type attitude of  the Newcastle defense, and he had a wonderful and courageous game this afternoon.

But hey, Man City were the better side, but we also think this game is the hardest of the three, and they get progressively easier at Man United and at home to Chelsea.

The Red Devils are not playing near their best form at the moment, so Newcastle could get something out of their trip to Old Trafford next Saturday, and no doubt we’ll go all out at home against Chelsea to try to beat the London side.

Hopefully the lads can do that, and in front of a capacity crowd at St. James’ Park,  and that’s  not beyond this Newcastle team at all.

And Newcastle should have three players back and available for selection for next Saturday at Old Trafford – Cheick Tiote, Gabriel Obertan and Leon Best.

What’s next?

Well Newcastle will have to begin another unbeaten run – starting at Old Trafford next Saturday.

Howay The Lads!!

Comments welcome.

76 comments so far

  • NUFCmagpie

    Nov 19, 2011 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #1

    first two goals were plainly Raylor fault and that second pen was a rubbish decision. Richards clearly felt Ben Arfa behind him and just fell over. really gutted to for all 3 goals to be soft. Santon in for Raylor next game for me


    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:07 PM

    Comment #2

    @nufc magpie.

    no disgrace at losing today. players gave really good performance. raylor for santon? you sure? raylor has been class all season, cant drop him purely based on todays performance.

  • joppadoni

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #3

    agree second pen was harsh, upper body contact doesnt make your legs collapse, hence it was a dive though its in the nature of the game sadly to fling yourself to the turf these days. raylors hand ball was actually ball to hand ( arm rather ) however why the hell he had his arm out in the first place i can only think he had money on it with bet365 in game…lol. both pens were correct for me and we should have avoided them. but we did see why we were the best defence in the league and why city are so incredibly strong. the forward play and movement put us to shame and i think the score was about right. can only see them winning the league this year

  • nimo

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #4

    hate ppl saying raylor been class all season hes done a job nothing more with the exception of the goals he has scored… been shown up on too many occassions for my liking at decision makin and pace.. i bet hes cos us more goals than he scored this yr.. not having a go at the lad really impressed with what hes done but we bought santon for that position.. the position he captains italy u21’s.. play the lad

  • GeordieGerman

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #5

    The first pen looked like ball to hand to me.

  • toonbrother

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #6

    What did we learn todaay?
    1. We suck without Tiote. Lets be honest. We couldnt keep the ball to save our lives.

    2. I dont think its fair to crucify Raylor and it would be completely wrong to replace in the next game. His mistakes were avoidable but they were one-offs and he’s done so much for us this season already

    3. We need Obertan back ASAP. Sammy was great but he’s still too young to play games of such magnitude.

    4. I liked Ben Arfa today. He’ll be our key player going forward but for now, I’d be tempted to bring back Leon Best for the Man U game if he’s fit. He holds the ball up better than HBA and pressuries opposing defenders better when he doesnt have the ball.

    All in all it was a dissapointing result because we were good enough to get something out of the game. But guys please cut Raylor some slack

  • joppadoni

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #7

    nimo raylors played really well this year. bar today, where granted, he was shi te. to say hes cost us goals over that which he has scored is im afraid rubbish. he has made several important tackles, blocks and defended generally well in the most part this year. as well as his 3 goals. we didnt get a hold of the midfield at all today, maybe it was missing tiote i dont know. thought bar saylor and collo we were pretty poor everywhere. so to say that and think we lost the game due to 2 penalties isnt overly terrible really. if we had played well and cut out the school boy errors in both boxes we would have beaten them. and they are a bloody good team.

  • nimo

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:23 PM

    Comment #8

    qpr was piss poor.. blavkburn wad poor..

  • joejoe

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:26 PM

    Comment #9


    Where are you coming from? We held the ball really well without Tiote in recent games so it´s kinda contradicting your “one-game only” defense of Raylor.
    To explain why we couldn´t hold the ball is not so tough if you really look at the game without stars in your eyes.
    Ben Arfa dropped way too deep. He was supposed to be the second striker. Instead he was getting the ball in midfield and constantly losing the ball. Look at the stats. So for me Ben Arfa just can´t be used through the midfield, primarily a winger. or on the wing of a three pong attack.
    We really needed Best to hold the line. BA is nowhere near as good as Best in that job. Also with the holdup play Best imposes high up the field relieves immense pressure on the defense and midfield and gives us more space to pass and hold the ball.
    These things I really hope Pardew is noticing. It´s there to be seen.
    Regarding Raylor I admit it´s hard to crucify him after this game but it has to be done. Not withstanding that he has made one huge mistake in nearly every game this season(finally it costs us) but it´s also the essence of competition. If one has a really bad game the likelyhood for another to come in should be strong. This will keep players on their toes.
    100% agree on Obertan, he´s also instrumental in keeping the pressure off us by staying high up the pitch and holding the ball.
    In my view we miss Obertan and Best a lot more than Tiote.

  • joppadoni

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:26 PM

    Comment #10

    didnt see the blackburn cup match tbf, qpr game we were played off the park all over the postage stamp of a pitch lol

  • nimo

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM

    Comment #11

    n im not sayin he not done well but been nothin more than average.. rellies too much on jonas also

  • joppadoni

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:34 PM

    Comment #12

    joe joe i dont think best is anywhere near as good as shola in that role either and i think he should have come on in the first have for Ba tho Ba ofc has just done something out of the blue in previous games. i think HBA should be played as a central midfielder to be honest, the person you pass the ball to immediately once an opponents attack has been broken down. he will get better at retaining the ball once others learn to keep up with him

  • toonbrother

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:34 PM

    Comment #13

    @joejoe its simple. In recent games we havent played teams as good as Man Cty . A Tiote-less midfield will cope well against teams like Everton and Wigan but against Man U and Chelsea the same thing will happen. We will struggle to keep possession and invite pressure on ourselves which will ultimately lead to defensive mistakes like the ones committed today . I think we miissed Tiote the most followed by Best.

    Funny thing is Ben Arfa was our best individual player today. I just think given our upcoming opponents Best would be a better option upfront alongside Ba.

  • joppadoni

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #14

    nah jonas doubled up with him against stoke but bar that hes done it himself like

  • joppadoni

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #15

    janet devlin cant sing for sh ite… lol

  • nimo

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #16

    how many games u actually been to.. no way anyone who gos to the games can suggest hes done it himself.. jonas tracks back whatever but more so wi raylor.. can see him just getting bullied by nani or whoever plays that wing for manure n same wi chelsea.. there midfield can pick the balls that get in behind raylor n show his pace up

  • dutchmagpie

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:49 PM

    Comment #17

    Totally agree mate Raylor got found wanting today and against good wingers he’s not up to it.

  • boater

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:51 PM

    Comment #18

    Ryan Taylor had a nightmare 5 min’s not a nightmare game. Ease off the witch hunt lads.

    Best has stopped scoring again, so you may as well have Arfa play off Ba as the creative supply line.

  • nimo

    Nov 19, 2011 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #19

    i think ba needs to work off best though.. but want to see benny in team so its a tough call.. benny did class when he hit the post different gravy

  • Benry

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #20

    Hi guys,

    First time poster here, been reading this blog always over the past few years, but never posted before.
    Just want to say firstly thanks for all your hard work Ed!
    I think today’s match revealed a lot of things about this Newcastle side. Firstly it’s clear that Demba Ba cannot play the main striker role, and this raises the question who would you rather play as the second striker, Ba or HBA? for me HBA every day of the week, he can create something out of nothing. Also, whilst Raylor must be commended for his sterling efforts this season, really we must put it into perspective. Which sides has he really been exposed to? only Spurs at home, and lets face it, Jonas helps him out ALOT. Even in that spurs game you could argue he was at fault for the Defoe goal. Raylor must make way for an international calibre player capable of stopping the likes of Ronaldo, Nani, Silva etc. We all saw what Santon did in the champs league in his teens vs Ron. Our solid defense is largely based on the class of Collo and heart of Saylor. I wouldn’t say Raylor or even Simpson is crucial for the back 4.
    That being said, it’s unfair to really criticise N’castle based on this game. Man.c are a freak team. They have thrashed and will continue to thrash many teams in the pl this season. A better gauge of our season will be the next two games, especially with Mr.T and potato head back.

  • Marty-Toon

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:02 PM

    Comment #21

    Made some great chances today,Rayls made a couple of bad decisions that we paid highly for.
    Is Santon ready though???
    Rayls confidence was shot after the peno and his passing was piss poor afterwards.
    Jonas also had an off day.
    He wasn’t able for the physical power of Richards.
    Good to see Ben Arfa back to some of his best.
    The lads worked their sock off today,City are a great team so we can be proud that we created those chances at their place
    Howdy the lads

  • colwell

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:05 PM

    Comment #22

    Raylor has been OK this season only due too Jonas defending alot more than he attacks, its as if he is scared to go past the half way line now as he knows he has to go and do Raylors job.

    It would be mad to drop Benny he is coming good and against UTD he`ll be awesome as after watching them today I can honestly say Utds midfield looked w##k.

  • ogm

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #23

    As said earlier, 2 errors caused 2 goals and thats whats gonna happen when you play a team that has as much talent as Man Cities money has put together.

    Its no disgrace to lose to the future champions

  • Gateshead-Mag

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:10 PM

    Comment #24

    ben arfa was our star man the day n a cnt believe ppl are sayin sway him for best, ba had a cuple chances to score the day n if he put them away yas wudnt even be saying that,

    fact is we played one of the top teams in the world today n held our own, a different day n maybe things would have went in our favour, only thing i had a bit of an issue with was the lack of strength in depth, no one we brought on inproved our game

    tiote for guthrie against manure (even tho i cant really fault guthrie this season), but am still unsure about raylor/santon

  • nimo

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:12 PM

    Comment #25

    if santon aint ready now he wont ever be.. been fit long enough been at the team long enough no better place to learn epl than old trafford

  • colwell

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:18 PM

    Comment #26

    Yeah I found it strange that he never brought Santon on today. Raylor was shite with everything he did today, yeah coming on at City would of been hard but he gave Sammy his full debut there so what am I missing.

  • The_Toon

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:19 PM

    Comment #27

    HATEM BEN ARFA ON THE RIGHT. I’d like Pardew to test HBA on the right with maybe SANTON covering right back to allow HBA to defend less. I’m not sure we are utilizing him correctly behind an alone striker… what do you guys think?

  • nimo

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:24 PM

    Comment #28

    sammy played well today and ran at clichy when he could which relieved pressure was impressed

  • applepine

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:25 PM

    Comment #29

    I never understood people jumping on the raylor bandwagon, he is sooooooooooooo out of position it hurts to watch!! granted, he has a great right foot, but that does NOT make him more than a squad player (to be brought on in MIDFIELD if needed)……. for me santon is a RB, but he MUST replace raylor at LB for the manutd game

  • davybtoon

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:28 PM

    Comment #30

    Rtaylor had a nightmare game, I’ve supported rtaylor all season but now we need santon in because jonas crossed the half line twice today it’s effecting his game n we need jonas goin forward more than defending

    Agreed though players should b proud n so shud the fans best team in the league just beat us n shame in that n took 2pens n crap rtaylor defending for them to do it

  • Lee Dodd

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:29 PM

    Comment #31

    Man Utd Lost 6-1 at Man City …. We Lost 3-1 so we can say we are no worse than Man utd . We are Still a quality Side and will bounce back next week and watch out Chelsea !!!! only 2 goals to the worse on goal difference …. If we can go all season with 4 losses I will be happy !!!! Keep up the Good Work A.P and J.C !!!!!!

  • AP's Black & White Army

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:29 PM

    Comment #32

    If i were Santon and I didn’t start the next match, I’d be questioning why I joined the club. It’s that simple, Raylor was a catastrophe today – start Santon!

  • davybtoon

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:30 PM

    Comment #33

    Nimo sammi was class I thought its a shame jonas isn’t as direct as sammi

  • angelswithdirtyfaces

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:31 PM

    Comment #34

    Simmo, Raylor, Obertan, Guthrie – far too much slagging off these guys. Firstly, they’re all good enough to have helped us into the top four. We don’t have the luxury of £10m players in every position and a few spare £7m players bench warming. They’re basically all good squad players maybe sometimes playing above themselves because of good coaching and we need them all. In fact they’re somewhere between good squad players and 1st team as they all have strong qualities as well as weaknesses. Obertoon may well go up a few notches with confidence and match time.

    Any team has to be able to play a mix of 1st team and squad players and every team has to be able to blend the two and still grind out results. We’ve done okay so far and will again and I bet Raylor will score us a game winning goal again more than once tis season with a stunning goal…

  • boater

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:33 PM

    Comment #35

    You can’t view today as an acid test of any one player. @toon brother – Saying Sammi lacks Obertan’s maturity, or Ben Arfa can’t hold up play like Best is impossible based on our opponents.

    This is the third best side in Europe atm.. and I still saw more from Sammy and Arfa, than I did from Obertan and Best against the likes of Wigan and Wolves.

    Playing like that we would have got points from any side in the league outside the top 4 or 5. Having said that, Ba was wasteful when through after excellent build up play- he had a bad game.

  • Gateshead-Mag

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:36 PM

    Comment #36

    boater: thats how I saw the game like, if ba had put away that lay off from benny or bennys rightfoot shot had been stronger could have been a different result, hard to make have any majour grievences against that opposition

  • AP's Black & White Army

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:36 PM

    Comment #37

    Sammy showed a different side today. The boy has a cool head and has decent awareness of space, picking his passes well, especially a certain cross-field ball which really impressed me.

    His first touch is better than i thought too. On more than one occasion, he evaded the onrushing defender, with a neat first touch, making it look easy, natural.

    Seems to have a decent understanding with Ben Arfa too, picking up a few of his traits hopefully.

    The signs are encouraging.

  • SBergenwall

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:36 PM

    Comment #38

    Feel sorry for Raylor…In my opinion he has had some solid games in defence, but today he was bad and now everybody hates him. But no one has anything to say about HBA clumbsy tackle that lead to a penalty. All in all i think we played pretty well, a few mistakes and not getting the ball forward as often as we would have liked. But when we got it forward we looked really dangerous and thats a good thing 🙂

  • AP's Black & White Army

    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #39


    Nobody ‘hates’ Raylor, he’s just being found out today. He’s the awkward utility man, good enough player, no real position, will slot in against weaker sides and do well.


    Nov 19, 2011 at 9:43 PM

    Comment #40

    People saying drop Ryan Taylor you have no idea how much he’s helped us… Everton from 1point to 3 for example, drop against the biggest team in england? Negative tw@ts


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