Pardew Admits Newcastle May Lose Some Players In January

News today that Alan Pardew is dreading the next transfer window that will open on January 1st.

Alan Pardew – dreading January

Last January Newcastle lost Andy Carroll to Liverpool for £35M and almost lost Cheick Tiote to transfer also, and there is news that Chelsea will make an initial £20M bid for the Ivorian early in January.

Alan Pardew is not in control of who leaves Newcastle, that’s in the hands of owner Mike Ashley,  and if clubs come in with some ridiculously high offers for Cheick Tiote and some of the other top players at the club, Mike will sell.

And we have found that every player has his price at Newcastle.

Alan Pardew has had to admit for the second Sunday in succession,  that he cannot rule out some  January moves away from St. James’ Park of some of Newcastle’s players:

“You’re talking about Newcastle United – nothing is certain here,”    “January is a horrible time. I don’t think there’s a Premier League manager, if he was honest with himself, who enjoys that period.”

“Everyone’s manoeuvring, jostling, people get busy around players – agents.”   “They want to earn their money in that period. They don’t do themselves any credit, in my view.”

“And we as managers are at the end of the phone having to put up with the media, the agent, the player, the player’s ­father, his long-lost brother, his distant cousin, etc ­getting involved because that’s when you can move clubs and re-negotiate.”

“I actually preferred the old system, where there were no ­windows, where you could buy and sell at any time.” “That’s a free market, that’s how the world works and why are we different?”

“It was trying to say we’ll take the advantage away from the bigger clubs by doing this, but I don’t think that’s worked.” “It unsettles every club – not just me.”

“You can never think you’re OK. The Andy Carroll thing brought that home more vividly than most.”

The new transfer system is very hard on managers and clubs, and especially the January window which takes place half way through the season and could end up with some clubs losing some of their best players, even though the managers may be against the deal.

And of course it will be very hard on Alan Pardew if he loses more of his best players in January to some of the top clubs, , after he has lost Andy Carroll, Kevin Nolan, Jose Enrique and Joey Barton since he arrived last December.

But as Alan says, this is Newcastle and nothing is ever certain at the club.

Isn’t that so true, especially with Mike Ashley as the owner, who runs the club as if it was an investment bank, with the assets being the players.

Comments welcome.

29 comments so far

  • gorskino10

    Nov 27, 2011 at 1:29 AM

    Comment #1

    So our top players will leave again, had enough of always selling our top talent, you simply cannot do this if you have any ambition at all.

    But its not a surprise, but it would have to be a CRAZY offer like 25/30 for Tiote, 20+ for Cabaye, 20+ for Krul etc…

    Just feel it, we will bring in one striker probs Maiga (although i prefer Wilfred Bony) and sell Tiote/Cabaye/Simpson and probs a few others.
    This will leave a hole, we will not buy to replace, and thus after Jan we preform no where near as good as we have, and thus struggle but still get a top 10 Finish.

  • NUFCBrunei

    Nov 27, 2011 at 1:34 AM

    Comment #2

    as long as we have a very good replacement of the same or better quality, i dont mind

  • GeordieGerman

    Nov 27, 2011 at 1:42 AM

    Comment #3

    Last year when Pardew said Carroll was going nowhere, I put down to him being new and deluded. Now he knows the wheeling and dealing of Ashley and co, he is being upfront. Tiote and Simpson out in January, Krul, Cabaye and maybe Coloccini in the summer. Am I worried? A bit. But then again my son said tonight. ” Newcastle sell their best players but seem to get better in.” Hope he’s right.

  • 09nufc09

    Nov 27, 2011 at 2:05 AM

    Comment #4

    Only player i think might leave in january is simpson and thats only if he dosent sign his new contract. Noone is going to bid stupid money, 20 mil plus for someone who is going to be at the acn for alot of the remainder of the season. I expect us to sign 2 players ( 3 if simo dosent sign his new contract ), we all know one will be maiga and the other will be a left back ( likely to be pieters ). People seem to think we are a selling club, would a selling club turn down 30 mil and 35 mil in instalments? Only other players we have sold had less than 1 year left on their contracts. We only have simo whos contract is running down, colo has 2 yr and everyone else 4 yr plus. Tiote has 5 yr remaining on a 60 k contract and i cant see anyone offering to double/treble his wages like what happened with carroll, It will cost close to carroll money to get the club to even consider it imo.

  • swemag

    Nov 27, 2011 at 2:09 AM

    Comment #5

    If it is not something like 30 mill for Tiote I don’t see it happening. The reason is that Newcastle will not get all the money themselves. There is a lot of talk in Holland at the moment of this possible deal and that his former club Twente will get a hefty percentage of any gains that are done. So lets assume that we are talking about 20%?
    We would sell Tiote for 25. 25 – 3,5 which we paid for him, that is a 21.5 mill gain. cut 20% of that and we will be left with 17. Well, not bad, but we will not get a player as good as Tiote for that, why? Because there is only one Tiote around.

  • warwick

    Nov 27, 2011 at 2:21 AM

    Comment #6

    Wont be cabaye, perhaps tiote.
    It is annoying but thats money.
    The cynic would say thats why guthrie has been playing when cheik is supposedly fit?

  • carrollsinger

    Nov 27, 2011 at 2:25 AM

    Comment #7

    If we are in the top 6 in jan and top players Leave that’s the proof that Ashley don’t care where Newcastle finish and it’s time to really make a stand against him.
    If we wanna finish in Europe we must not sell anyone!

  • 09nufc09

    Nov 27, 2011 at 2:28 AM

    Comment #8

    Warwick… Tiote isnt fit he hasnt been training, he wasnt in the pics on the official website the other day. Hopefully he will be back for chelsea because if sammy starts he will need to cover that side, sammy is very good going forward but isnt in the same league as jonas defensively and with raylor at left back and sammy infront thats a weak left side that needs a mr t to protect it lol

  • GeordieGerman

    Nov 27, 2011 at 2:32 AM

    Comment #9

    carrollsinger, F. Aaaah I can’t be bothered.

  • ToonDownSouth

    Nov 27, 2011 at 2:33 AM

    Comment #10

    Panic Panic Panic! Wow guys… Tiote, Cabaye, Colo, Krul, Simpson ALL leaving?

    Been on the special sauce?

    I’d be surprised if anyone bar Colo or Simpson left, and that’s solely down to contract situations. Hopefully Colo will sign on with us.

  • warwick

    Nov 27, 2011 at 3:05 AM

    Comment #11

    Yeh hes a raw talent, pardew seems to have the troops so to speak.
    He has his systems that is the reason why ben arfa has not reached true hights.
    Son’t underestimate pardew and the back rooms staff influence, this is a real team now.

  • warwick

    Nov 27, 2011 at 3:09 AM

    Comment #12

    Well drilled I mean.
    I’m not as drunk as I sound.;)

  • branunited

    Nov 27, 2011 at 4:06 AM

    Comment #13

    in previous days was talk in Mexico that manchester city interested in tiote.
    if Tiote goes to City for james milner I would not disagree.
    in my opinion, should spend part of the money you have in good quality players, example marko marin (15 million), Sulejmani (6 million).

  • shamsoftabriz

    Nov 27, 2011 at 4:33 AM

    Comment #14

    I’d be worried if we were hovering around 14th in the table right now, but we’re near the top. This season, it’s time to shore up the team and make a run, not sell our most valuable assets…er, I mean, players 😉

    Tiote will only be sold for a 35 million dollar deal. In fact, if Carroll was worth 35 million, Tiote is worth 45. But remember–we saw very little if any of the Carroll funds. We will not see any of the Tiote funds either.

    But, to be honest, I don’t see anyone of significance leaving this club in we’re in the top third of the table in January. We need to bring in players to offset Ba and Tiote’s international duty. Pieters and Maiga should do nicely.

  • ilovetoon8788

    Nov 27, 2011 at 5:02 AM

    Comment #15

    Seeing several footballing forums, many including pundits agree that Collocini has been 1 of the best centre backs in the league in the past 2 seasons. He is an absolute rock at the back. His performance has been world class. He is playing at the top of his game right now and 1 of the finest centre backs in the world at the moment.

    Problem is, i got a stinking feeling he might move in January. I’m more worried about Coloccini than Tiote leaving. World class centre backs are hard to replace as not many can adapt quickly to EPL nature especially if we are going to buy from overseas.


    Nov 27, 2011 at 7:34 AM

    Comment #16

    We should only let Tiote go for “silly money”!

    And Collo also! With Pardew making statements like this it seems almost inevitlbe that at least two of our best players will be on their way in Jan and maybe another in the summer!

    Does this surprise me? “NO”.!
    Does it piss me off? “YES”

    Just as we seem to be starting to build a winning team with decent players, then along come one of the other clubs with their ridiculous budgets and outspoken managers to make stupid offers and rip the good players away before we win or do anything with that talent!

    If Tiote, Collo, and Krul go in the january window!

    Then Cabaye,Simpson and Jonas in the summer then all the hard work in the last year or so is going to go down the toilet!

    Fat Ash is only interested in profit margins and Pardew knows this now. The difference is that when Carrroll went he did,nt, so now he,s trying to soften the blow before it comes!

    Krul is fast becoming one of the best keepers in the country! Some of his saves yesterday were top notch. Not only the Brit clubs but the top clubs in Europe will be sitting up and taking notice. Its not beyond the realms of possibility that a big money offer will come in for him too!

    I,ve said often enough on here, that i am more cocerned about the players who leave than i am about the players who are brought in!

    When Nolan and Barton went it did,nt really bother me, the only annoying thing was that Joey was allowed to leave for nowt which i think was a big mistake! Warnock could,nt believe it and i still can,t either.

    To conclude don,t you just love the reaction of Ferguson to the Penalty decision yesterday! If things don,t go his way then he is always quick to point out how bad a decision is and throw his teddy out the pram!
    Compare this to Monsier Wenger who just says bad decision and gets on with preparations for their next game.
    The F.A. should fine Sir Alex him for as much as they can, he should be taught to stop bitching so much every time one decision does,nt go his way!
    What about four or five of their players surrounding the officials on the touchline while they were making that decision! Right! or Wrong! Did,nt reakise this was still allowed.
    Only at Manure would this be allowed to happen, okay it was a bad call and Shearer said so on MOTD too!

    But we have had so many bad decisions made against us over the last few years the i think its about time some of those decisions went in our favour.

    As for January, well i can see us sliding down the table between then and May culminating in a relegation battle by the end of the season!

    Then you,ll get all the idiots on here again trying to point the finger of accusation and looking for someone to blame for our soory situation!

    Don,t you just love being a Mag?

  • Satan

    Nov 27, 2011 at 8:12 AM

    Comment #17

    Don’t understand why Pardew has once again chosen to comment on this….surely the response should be that hes focused solely on the next game and not prepared to engage in speculation about the January window. maybe he’s trying to soften a blow that’s headed our way; I don’t know, but surely you’d think he’d be desperate to train all energies on Chelsea and focus on footballing matters? Strange one this imo as all it does is invite further speculation and turmoil.
    I sincerely hope no-one leaves in January but you have to worry about Tiote with MA at the helm….Simmo is a possibility with his contract situation and Colo’s future concerns me too

  • stephen1971

    Nov 27, 2011 at 8:23 AM

    Comment #18

    oh fergie fergie fergie , lol, he,s not used to seeing the opposition getting penaltys at old trafford, i think that was sweet justice for the stone waller we got refused on shearer, did you whinge about that one fergie ?

  • toonbrother

    Nov 27, 2011 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #19

    cant believe we are 4th and struggling to holdon to our lplayers. Fat Face Ashley is one greedy obese basta*rd

  • Toon Tang

    Nov 27, 2011 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #20

    we all know whats coming eh because its happened so many times before. its the choice of adding a couple of relatively inexpensive players and pushing for champions league football (and money) or selling off some names for the same amount we may receive for entering the champions league. I think ashley would sell for the money all day long as its guaranteed cash right there.

    I think he should at least keep the same players through to summer, just to see what happens.

  • BartZ

    Nov 27, 2011 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #21

    It the same type of news we have had in previous transfer windows. I will be raging if we loose collo or tiote but if an insane offer comes in like it did for Carroll then you can’t blame Ashley. He is trying to make the club self-sufficient, buy low and sell high. It’s been working up till now even if it is incredibly frustrating.

    Carrollsinger – it’s pointless in striking against Ashley, he won’t sell so we need to just support the team. The sqaud is in the best state it has been been since sir bobby so he must be doing something right.

  • solano

    Nov 27, 2011 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #22

    Where are Davyb and other apologists on this thread? The truth of the matter is that we fail in every transfer window to take opportunities to “kick on” and improve as a team. This is because we cannot seem to renew contracts and are pursuing what has been stated several in club staements – that we have no intention of investing to compete at the very top. Instead, we will continue to profiteer by continually selling our bestest when their market value is at its highest. This is no formula for success but it is the Ashley plan working to perfection.
    Pardew has learnt some harsh lessons in the past year from his employers. His brutally honest statements now, show that he has no faith in those who employ him of backing him in the magnificent job he has done thus far. He is given an almost impossible job of getting results whilst continually rebuilding in the positions where we are strongest. A tragic scenario when we are doing so well.
    When you look at the transfer window history under Ashley (£50m+ net profits in player sales) there is no wonder our manager is dreading the forthcoming January sales.

  • Stuart

    Nov 27, 2011 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #23

    @Solano – We fail in every transfer window to kick on?

    What the hell do you think happened in the summer window then?

    We went from a slow set piece reliant team that finished last season 12th to a fast paced, passing team who are currently 4th in the league.

    But yeah, never once kicked on.

  • solano

    Nov 27, 2011 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #24

    Stuart…Down to Pardew performing a minor miracle. Our incomings in truth, have only been about 50% successful and no doubt .Pards wanted to keep all of those who left. You know as well as anyone, what is coming in January and that is why Pards is covering his bases this time – he doesn’t want his words coming back to haunt him (again). Like I say, you can’t continually rebuild in positions which are most important and in which we are strongest in.

  • niffnoff

    Nov 27, 2011 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #25

    Reads article. Where does it mention “top players will go”?
    you guys know close to nothing on who’s going and who isn’t if ashley wasn’t bothered about the club don’t you think he’d of sold us to the lowest bidder a while ago?
    Shush fools. Every player has their price and to be honest it’s how you make money sometimes. Let’s keep our minds on now and not january.

  • Cockney Magpie

    Nov 27, 2011 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #26

    Where exactlys does Pards admit we could lose players in jan? All I really got from that was Pards doesn’t like the transfer window!?

  • Dondatta13

    Nov 27, 2011 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #27

    We spent YEARS tracking Tiote and Cabaye, they will not sell them on a whim or first come first served basis….

    RIP Gary Speed… Gutted!

  • wynsleap

    Nov 27, 2011 at 9:28 PM

    Comment #28

    I think it’s pretty obvious that Ashley now will NEVER spend a penny on transfers while he’s at this club.
    Yes, Maiga will probably come in at about £6-8 Mill. but someone really influential in our team will go out at a huge fee to accommodate him and possibly one or two others.
    The guy’s already around £40 mill. up on transfers in his tenure and on it will go until he gets his money back.
    Sad to say that some on here will agree to that “swings and roundabouts” system as long as we’re in the top 5 or 6.
    I for one would rather see a decent outlay on good players to add to, and keep, the excellent ones we have
    already. That way we could start building a top team rather than pulling out the “bricks of the construction” then replacing them with different ones. Problem is the “different ones” may not be as good as the originals.

  • Real Toon Army Fan

    Nov 28, 2011 at 7:57 AM

    Comment #29

    Why do we have to put up with this mike ashley as i said at the start of this session about the players we have lost that mike Ashley is a businessman and we will always be a selling club as long as he owns the club, yeah we are not in debt, but when the old chairman was at least he gave the mangers money to straighten the football team some people said off we singed old players that were past there sale by date, but the club sold over sir Freddie shepherds head when he was in hospital with pneumonia, so that is how mike Ashley got his hands on NUFC, Dont get me wrong we have done very very well so far with the players we have and Alan has done a very very good job so far and i totally agree with him about the transfer window and what he says on here, i thought we were going to really straggle in the league this session but Alan and the players have done a great job in getting to that 42 points and beyond but he is not the problem, mike Ashley is in the way NUFC is with his ownership, if we do get the 4th and it is if like the great late Sir Bobby Robson if is a big word in football if only this happened or that, but if we did get 4th spot and ever thing else that comes with it like my friend said we have not got a bigger enough squad so that would effect our premier league statutes as Ashley at NUFC in buying players etc, so if we want to kick on , and the window comes round and we are not looking to good in the table and more players get sold on as in our good players then we all need to stand together unite on this and totally boycott club and hit Ashley were it hurts him the most his pocket REMEMBER HE IS A TOTAL BUSINESSMAN HE IS NOT LOCAL HE DOES UNDERSTAND NUFC AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THE FANS.


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