Pardew Now A Better Manager Due To Past Mistakes And Experiences

Since Alan Pardew arrived on  Tyneside just over  a year ago,  one thing we have found out about the Londoner, is that  he is very passionate and wants to win every game.

Alan Pardew – looking a little distressed yesterday

And there’s nothing much wrong  with that.

When Pardew arrived last December he was greeted with a big yawn by most fans, and there was even some anger amongst fans that Chris Highton had been fired, only to be replaced by Pardew, who hardly had a stellar record in management.

And  he certainly hadn’t managed a club anywhere near as big as Newcastle United.

But I always remember what my son Neil said about Pardew when he was first appointed Newcastle manager, which was basically –  don’t forget he’s not the manager he was at Charlton or Southampton – because he will have learned from those mistakes he made there – he will be a different manager at Newcastle.

My view on that at the time was – yeah right!

But in a nutshell,  that seems to have been what has happened on Tyneside, and Alan has learned from his past mistakes, and he has even talked about that.

Pardew took Charlton Athletic down in 2007, when they finished second bottom of the Premier League with 34 points, the same number of points Newcastle were relegated with in 2009.

Alan says he has taken a more measured approach at Newcastle when things get into a crisis, as they often seem to do at the Newcastle club, and he learned a lot form that Charlton experience.

Newcastle may be close to a mini crisis now,  with just one point from the last four games, but we are still 7th top of the league, and even yesterday there were a lot of positives to take from the game.

Alan was interviewed in the Sunday Sun today,  and he was asked if he thinks he is better manager now at Newcastle:

“Yes, 100 per cent.” “I was a better manager after I realised at Charlton that I didn’t quite get it right, although I was really up against it.”

“That situation is much harder than this. We had 10 points when I arrived there halfway through the season and we almost got out of it.”

“But when you get relegated and you lose £27M of talent from a team like Charlton’s then it is really difficult.”

“But I learned a lot of things there and some of the things that have happened here also happened to me at Charlton.”

Pardew continues to speak his mind to people like owner Mike Ashley, but when there are inevitable disagreements, they are handled in a professional manner.

Once case in point was when the Newcastle Board failed to sign a striker on the last day of the summer transfer window, and the Newcastle fans were up in arms.

Pardew was obviously not happy about it, to put it mildly,  and refused to speak to the press for a full week following that August 31st debacle.

The news is that he let Ashley and LLambias know,  in no uncertain terms, that it was unacceptable, but he kept his own council on that from the press, which is the professional and mature way to handle these kinds of disagreements.

And in short Alan has done extremely well so far as Newcastle manager.

But we also have to hope he’s talking to the powers that be at Newcastle right now, to convince them he needs two new defenders in the January transfer window to strengthen his squad,  which was ruthlessly exposed by a mediocre Norwich side yesterday at Carrow Road.

And any new players should be brought in during early January,  so they can immediately be used in the squad.

Comments welcome.

203 comments so far

  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #1

    BS, i am nt saying he is a bad manager, but he is not better, because the mistakes he has made are unforgivable

  • magpiebop

    Dec 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #2

    4-1-4-1 Vs Swansea

    Subs- Elliot,RTaylor,Williamson,Obertan,Ben Arfa,Ameobi,Best.

  • gorgonzola

    Dec 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #3

    Unforgivable is a bit harsh but he has made a cockup our asses Norwich for sure…

  • jimiley

    Dec 11, 2011 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #4

    Tiote is going nowhere.
    Reports claim that Tiote is going to Chelsea for 23 million. Chelsea want him in January but the lad wants to stay at toon until the summer. Its all press garbage because we are not a selling club. What is the point of trying to build a side if you keep selling your best players? You win nowt and eventually get relegated. We do not sell our best players. If we sell Tiote, I want every penny spent on players otherwise I will seriously doubt Mr Ashley has the interests of the club at heart and is only here to fill his own pockets.

  • alext109

    Dec 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #5

    As long as he learns from yesterday’s game that Perch and Simpson CANNOT play as CBs. We all knew that if they played we would be slaughtered in the air and three of their goals came from headers. Not to mention the first goal was also headed down by a Norwich player for them to score…tho we were unlucky with that one.

    The fact that he didn’t even have Kadar on the bench shows that he either has no faith in the lad or he really isn’t as good as what people were saying.

  • supporter

    Dec 11, 2011 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #6

    It seems that Pardew don’t like risk. He doesn’t want to change his team, only when he has no other choice..
    For instance he will always keep Obertan probably because it seems to be for him a less risky option.
    He doesn’t select Ben Arfa, as he thinks he takes more risk than with Ameobi, while you just cannot compare the 2 options if you like football and want to play a nice game.
    He finally gave Stanton his chance only because he has nobody else, while he is a very good palyer.

  • Stuart

    Dec 11, 2011 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #7

    @Indian Magpie – What mistakes are unforgivable in your opinion like?

    Also, AP didnt really have any choice but to play Simpson and Perch at CB, why are people having a go?

    Were you expecting Remy Streete and Kadar, two unproven kids playing over two experienced first team players?

    AP shouldnt be taking flack for this, MA should for leaving us in the situation where we had no defensive cover.

    Januarys coming though so we’ll find out whether MA is going to strengthen or dismantle.

  • geordiefinn

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #8

    it makes me sick that now some people are blasting pardew that he’s a bad manager, clown etc etc.. ffs we are 7th! you are being very naïve if you really think that we could have maintained our place in top four! we are not that good yet……….. tbh i thought, after all departures last summer, that we were relegation candidates: bullshit! pardew has done absolutely tremendous job to date, it is not his fault that we dont have more centrebacks at the moment…

  • hotdog

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #9

    geordiefinn – of course its his fault, he is the manager. Its true he is doing a great job for which he has had the plaudits but he is not immune from criticism. He tried to bull up perch during the week but the truth is his confidence is rock bottom so why stick him in a bad cb position for him, he is a right back all day long. I have not seen that much of Kadar but if he isnt good enough to fill in from the reserves then he shouldnt be at the club simples!

  • The Ghost of St.James Past

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #10

    Woooooo! Woooooooo! Parrrdddddeeeewww. You obviously haven’t learned much from the past if you thought a 5’9 right back and a 5’11 reserve centre back could cope with the two battering rams employed by Norwich yesterday. Paul Lambert’s easiest ever management decision. Let’s hope Captain Colo and Williamson return for next week……or I’ll be back to haunt you again Woooooooo, Woooooooo

  • Brutooon

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #11

    a blind 80 years old grandfather even notice Perch is a Centre Back

    Alan Pardew WAKE UP DUDE !!!

  • Brutooon

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #12

    Perch is NOT a Centre Back*

  • Stuart

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #13

    Howay then Hotdog and Brutoon, who would you have played at CB yesterday?

    The only actual cbs we have left are either under 18 or Kadar who by all accounts has no future here.

    You can’t blame AP for the fact we have no CB’s to choose from in an emergency.

  • seantoon

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #14

    Over the last few week I’ve been one of those saying no way will tiote be leaving in January! But I’m now really getting worried. The more games he misses the more I’m thinking this might actually be happening! I know it’s only papertalk but something fishy is going on! And why would we keep getting linked with new defensive midfielders

  • hotdog

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #15

    Stuart – Yes I can he is manager of Newcastle United. Who do i think, not a clue im not the manager but if I were I would make sure my resrerves were just that…..

  • Stuart

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #16

    Wow, no wonder you’re not a manager with insight like that hotdog.

    So what you saying is what Pardew did was very wrong but you dont have a single alternative option haha.

  • Brutooon

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #17

    Stuart : i rather give the CB slot to an under 18 or under 16 Centre Back EVEN to a 50 years old grandfather rather than giving it to PERCH.

    Perch the MOST he can played is full back (because the Centre Back can still cover him!)

    Perch as Centre Back is a disaster.

    1) Never been called by any England Level (Under 19s nor Under 21) – Simple because he is a BELOW average player
    2) He play at the championship all his life. And as a FULL BACK. I dont know how the hell can people said he is a Centre Back ( Some fans got no idea about football)
    3) He is skinny. How can a Centre Back so SKINNY??? Thats the basic 101 of Football

    Kadar / Tavernier / Our Under 18 CB (Whoever he is) is BETTER than James Perch

  • Stuart

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #18

    Cant see how AP is getting the blame for working with what he has left. Its MA’s fault for not opening his chequebook enough in the summer to provide adequate defensive cover.

    With any luck though the result yesterday may force MA’s hand to buy some cover in January.

    Oh yeah loved this quote, ‘im not the manager but if I were I would make sure my resrerves were just that…..’

    In other words, injuries are banned goddamnit and reserve players will never get a first team chance!

  • Stuart

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #19

    Hahaha brutoon, so you dont know who these players may be but they’re all 100% without doubt better than Perch eh?

    Also, i dont think anyones ever called him a centre back, he just had to play there because we had no-one else.

  • hotdog

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #20

    Sorry Stuart you are wrong on that one I manager my son’s team haha and yes i have a good idea of who should play where. You seem to be missing my point. It is OK for fans to discuss who should or shouldnt be in the team but the buck stops with AP even he would tell you that. In his defence he has only been here 12 months and cant change everyhting at once but he has to make sure his reserves can come in and do a job, which im sure you will agree with 🙂

  • Magickit

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #21

    I just wanna Pardew to do the following thing . lets face the truth

    1. Drop the dancer Obertan. He wasted millions of chances for counter attack and normal attacks. He lacks for defending attitude.

    2. Drop Perch. He is totally unacceptable at CB and full back. How many goals we conceeds when Perch are at the back incl. the league cup?? His best position is on the bench for a sub DM role when we head 2-0 or more

    3. Pls use HBA with weaker teams as well. He can dribble past the opponent like Norwich easily. (see obertan dribbling ??) He plays at RW for Lyon and France before.

    4. Put Ameobi on bench. He is very lazy when off the ball . Even though he had a good shot hit the bar, he will look at the sky for 3 seconds no matter where the ball gone.

  • alext109

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #22

    Stuart, Brutoon makes a good point that Perch has never been called up to any international level, while Kadar has been called up to u-17, u-19, u-21 and senior level.

    So although you may not agree with some of his points you have to admit that a defender who has been called up by his country at every level and has 23 caps for his country is better than a defender who has none.

  • Magickit

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #23

    also what happen to gosling ? He seems not match fit … he wasted a golden chance 1st half with Ba’s perfect past … he even cannot shoot the ball ….

    I think Guthire = 80% Cabaye.

    But Gosling = 50% Guthrie only ….

  • ArtyH

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #24

    Lets facew it lads a C.B should be a big unit no ifs or buts, he has to have a big look about him. We got the ragdoll treatment yesturday by two big C.F’s who played us very well. We need defensive cover ans I believe IMHO Samba from Blackburn would be a good choice. We also need a C.F, C.B and D.M for the next part of the season. Also we need a winger as Obertan to me is not up to the job. Howay, most of the postes here played football at some time in your life….right…well when I played and it was at C.F if I lost the ball, I did’nt just stand there waiting for it to come back, I went hunting for it again. I lost it and it was ( IMHO ) up to me to get it back or at least try. I hate it when Shola or Obertan ( on the occasion when they do ) go to the opposition and make a token gesture at geting the ball. Shola had a good game yesturday and I do not knock his play to much, he was steady and did’nt give the ball away very often, BUT when he looses the ball he should do more to get it back!

  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #25

    Just seen Pards interview saying that any club losing three centre halves would struggle and rightly so but he never mentioned that they were our ONLY three centre halves,I dont know if any other club operates with this number of personnel.

  • seantoon

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #26

    I agree with Stuart your all going on saying drop this guy don’t ever play this player! Name the team you would have played instead then! Everyones going on like they were expecting to win! When I woke up yesterday I was expecting what happened! Norwich are a powerful hard team to go to. And we are a weak team defensively with all our injurys!

  • hoppernufc

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #27

    just want to say how bad dan gosling is, hes so slow its unreal and a think hes scared of the ball he gets his first premier league start and sets up there third goal and gets sent off well done you stupid scouse prick hes useless. was over the moon to see santon and he looked very good hes got to start v swansea.

  • seantoon

    Dec 11, 2011 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #28

    Magickit what’s that meant to mean?

  • hotdog

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #29

    me thinks magickit was on the pop last night haha

  • geordiefinn

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #30

    hotdog #9

    No, it’s not manager’s fault if the players he plays cannot perform as they should! Pardew cannot do anything but to wait for January..

    Re Kádár you are right, he isn’t good enough and is leaving the club come next summer. So who would you have played as cb’s then? Please don’t say Remie Streete or Jeff Henderson…

  • jimmymagpie

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #31

    I’m sorry but I cannot agree with all the computer watchers who are eulogising about Santon.I was at Carrow Road, and agree with the media reports this morning that he gave the opposition far too much room, and that was half the trouble – apart from having no height in the middle, we allowed far too many crosses into the box. For a tall man Santon was very weak in the air, barely jumping, as evidenced in the lead up to the third goal. However, he is a vast improvement on Raylor and Simpson on the ball, and agree that he should now be given a run at left back – Raylor has come to the end of his run. All is not lost with the return of Colo and possibly Willo next week, but i am worried about the Tiote situation, as the Times are’nt prone to wild speculation, and seem to think that he’s off to Chelsea next month for £23m – let’s hope not, as we’re going to be short in January up front with Ba and Maiga both away.

  • LewSpi

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #32

    Some of you guys are so fickle and naive. Who on earth would you have played instead of who AP picked? I don’t know why perch is getting the flack, as mentioned, the goals came from headers, Danny Simpson is just 5 foot 8! Most 14 year olds are taller, again though, I’m not blaming him, his team needed him to play there, so he did. There are many players in many clubs who refuse to play out I position. So u would like to take this opportunity to congratulate our lads on giving their all. We did have 3 of our 4 defenders playing out of position, and te other one making his debut in the premier league, after all.

  • hotdog

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #33

    Geordiefinn – See previous comments with Stuart mate. My head hurts!

  • Magickit

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #34

    Shorter guy can also defend tall man, u needa box-out opponents with ur body, not juz being the nearest spectator like Mr. Perch did every time

  • geordiefinn

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #35

    Well said LewSpi #31

  • Durham_Toon

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #36

    Haven’t had a chance to comment on the match yesterday but would just like to say that Perch and Simo were clearly the wrong choices – even with his inexperiance Kadar would have been better in the air.

    Dan Gosling – what’s happened to him? Always thought he was a good player at Everton but he’s been very poor in all but 1 of the games I’ve seen him play for us. Yesterday he played badly and got himself sent off, not sure if he’ll get another chance now.

    Santon – played well, should stay in the team. BUT he is always cutting inside, using his right foot. The lad is NOT a left back. He can play there but so can anyone if they’re asked to. Wish everyone would stop saying he’s a left back cause he jsut isn’t!

    Even with our make shift defence defeat vs Norwich just isn’t acceptable and I hope there’s been a few words said to them afterwards.

  • hotdog

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #37

    Arty #23 I remember watching Beardlsey in his first spell lossing the ball to the left back. The oppo switched the play across the back four and down the right wing. Peter the great scampered(in his style)after the ball until he slid in on our left back spot to win the ball back. I have always compared work rate to that watching it as a young’un. Dont think you see that from modern players but you should, sets great example!

  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #38

    If Tiote does go for 23 million at a 18 million profit on top of the 35 million for Caroll 11 for Milner 8 for Bassong,has anybody on here done the Maths and worked out how much has been spent on players and how much has been sold since our saviour Mike Ashley arrived

  • hoppernufc

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #39

    james perch is taller than fabio cannavaro one of the best center backs and world cup winner it goes to show size isnt everything, its just perch is shit with no awareness or defensive ability

  • ilovetoon8788

    Dec 11, 2011 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #40

    I don’t blame Pardew. He has seen very little of Perch at centreback. Maybe only twice this season. Maybe this second time will confirm to Pardew Perch is no centreback. He’s an absolute disaster there. I’m very sure Pardew will play Kadar ahead of Perch.

    The only thing i can fault Pardew is his selection of Raylor over Santon. He has been in our club for 3 months and he still can’t get a game ahead of Raylor who has been shockingly exposed over and over. This is like a mystery to me.

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