Vuckic or Abeid Could Play Against WBA – Ben Arfa To Start?


Yohan Cabaye picked up his fifth yellow card of the season on Saturday, and will serve a one match suspension on Wednesday night against WBA.

Ben Arfa – could get a start on Wednesday

Yohan picked up his yellow card on 62 minutes,  and it was interesting that Pardew  brought on central midfielder Haris Vuckic on 82 minutes, so perhaps that will be a hint that Alan will give Haris the start on Wednesday night.

The other player in contention will be fellow 19 yellow-old Mehdi Abeid, and quite honestly we would be happy if either youngster got the start on Wednesday.

And West Brom will be an opportunity for Newcastle to get back to their winning ways, and we thought the lads played well against Swansea.

It was one of those games where Newcastle controlled the game but just couldn’t get that goal, and on Wednesday you can bet your life Newcastle will be looking for that first goal right from the start.

As usual,  the team spirit is excellent at Newcastle, and manager Pardew doesn’t think he needs to pick up the lads’ spirits too much:

“Yohan Cabaye picked up his fifth booking of the season, which will sideline him on Wednesday.”  “But we are in good fettle for the next game, and that’s what you have got to be.”

“We haven’t been beaten, we have got a clean sheet, played reasonably well. We are disappointed we haven’t won, disappointed to lose Yohan to that booking.”

“We are frustrated, but hopefully we are armed by that on Wednesday night and we win.”  “Ben Arfa will be frustrated that he didn’t get a game, but maybe that will fuel him for Wednesday night.”

“I don’t think I need to lift them. As professionals you know if you’ve played well or you haven’t,”  “We played well in my opinion – we looked a strong side and if on another afternoon one of those goals went in we’re looking at a different story.”

“At the same time you have to pay tribute to the opposition – they played well.”  “I was a bit frustrated about the referee but the  less said about it the better,” 

There were a lot of comments from readers after the game about Newcastle not being able to open up the Swansea defense, so why didn’t Pardew bring on the creative Ben Arfa?

The Frenchman hasn’t played in the last two games, but he’ll get his chance against WBA no doubt, and Newcastle need to have more creativity in that game.

Maybe Ben Arfa  could even start out on the right wing in place of Gabriel Obertan, or up front behind lone striker Demba Ba.

Of course the former Marseilles player could even start in the middle of the park, since he’s played there for France,  so there are plenty of positions Pardew can use Ben Arfa in against WBA.

All we need is all 3 points on Wednesday night, and then we can go to Bolton and be in good spirits to get a win there too.

And we can make up for the 5-1 loss there last season, which turned out to be a disastrous game for Newcastle,  with both Coloccini and Williamson picking up three match bans in that game.

Anything but a win on Wednesday night will seem like points lost.

Give us a win Newcastle – please!

Comments welcome.



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24 comments so far

  • toonbrother

    Dec 19, 2011 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #1

    Whatever Pardew does, he must retain the Ba -Best partnership. We didnt score on Saturday but they worked very well together. As for central midfield ,I’m tempted towards HBA but I worry about his work rate. Also he doesnt release the ball quickly enough and often ends up losing it. I would go for the following

    ………………………….King Krul…………………..
    Simpson…..Colo………..Perch/Williamson……….Santon
    ………………………..Tiote……………………..Jonas
    Obertan…………………….HBA………………………
    …………………………Best……………Ba

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  • west-ldn magpie

    Dec 19, 2011 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #2

    Ben arfa should definitely start in Place of oberton we need he’s creativity,and mehdi in for cabaye.

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  • Robby Bobson

    Dec 19, 2011 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #3

    Pardew seems to really like Vuckic, more of the attacking player of the two I think.

    Werent at the Forest or blackburn games so dont really know how good Abeid is looking, but either will be eager and i’m sure will put in a good shift.

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  • hatem or love him

    Dec 19, 2011 at 1:28 AM

    Comment #4

    Krul
    Simpson Perch Collo Santon
    Ben Arfa Vuckic Tiote Jonas
    Best Ba

    Bring on Abeid for Vuckic, Ben Arfa for Sammy and Best for Ameobi

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  • Dyer8

    Dec 19, 2011 at 2:08 AM

    Comment #5

    vs WBA

    ………………..Krul
    Simmo..Willo..Collo..Santon
    …………Vuckic..Tiote
    Obertan…………………….Jonas
    ………………..HBA
    …………………Ba

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  • Sav

    Dec 19, 2011 at 3:13 AM

    Comment #6

    I agree with Toonbrother. Ba/Best looked good even though Leon hasn’t had a game in weeks. Play Ben Arfa in midfield in front of Tiote.

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  • Brutooon

    Dec 19, 2011 at 3:15 AM

    Comment #7

    I do agreed that Vuckic to replace Cabaye and HBA to play in replace Obertan

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  • Troleibusiukas_LTU

    Dec 19, 2011 at 4:01 AM

    Comment #8

    Totally agree with.
    Krul
    Simpson Perch Collo Santon
    Ben Arfa Vuckic Tiote Jonas
    Best Ba

    Bring on Abeid for Vuckic, Ben Arfa for Sammy and Best for Ameobi or Obertan(behind the striker role).

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  • Troleibusiukas_LTU

    Dec 19, 2011 at 4:02 AM

    Comment #9

    Henry from arsenal also started as a winger, but end up as a striker, maybe we should try obertan in that posision too?

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  • PapaToon

    Dec 19, 2011 at 5:36 AM

    Comment #10

    We did open up Swansea, the ball came off the post twice and their keeper made couple of good saves.
    just wasnt our day, just like it wasnt Man U day against us.
    Gabriel Obertan i dont know what people have against him. He has been very good, he gives an outlet when we are under pressure, as when he has the ball he can hold it with his trickery and gives us time to move up.
    We dong get that with Sami Ameobi or Guiterez. Have a look at the games he hasnt played for us and the one he has. Much better crosser than guiterez.
    for me the MOM against swansea was Davide
    Santon did not give up the ball once and was solid defensively.
    Ben Arfa will start against WBA, the other two kids will get cameo roles in the second half.

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  • LEROI

    Dec 19, 2011 at 7:21 AM

    Comment #11

    last wk the sun gave obertan a 6 & he was worse than useless. this wk he was 10x better against swansea & he got a 5 ehhh! i will give him this wed to see if he can improve that little extra and actually set up an effort on goal & have a shot on target.
    My choice for ACM is HBA coz i think he can unlock wba’s defence better from this area than 2nd striker, although i’d love the chance to see Abeid do his thing at some point in the near future.
    So my team would be same:-
    ———————–KRUL————————–
    SIMMO——COLLO——-WILLO——SANTON
    OBER————TIOTE—–HBA——–JONAS
    ———————BA———BEST—————-

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  • LEROI

    Dec 19, 2011 at 7:31 AM

    Comment #12

    I think Perch was ok on sat but he’ll have to be as outstanding as Collo against Shane Dong and Peter Odem’plays with his’winki! So i would start Willo there even though i know he’s not 100% game ready. I would rather gamble on willo a bit then the hope Perch can cope with those 2!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 19, 2011 at 8:08 AM

    Comment #13

    trolei

    I have always thought it would be worth trying obertan as a striker and not worry about trying to cross the ball.

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Dec 19, 2011 at 8:08 AM

    Comment #14

    We all have our views, but for me the Best, Ba partnership has got to stop. It’s like playing 10 against 11; Best might work hard, but it a mounds to nothing. He adds nothing to our midfield which comes to show in games when we looses the midfield and in a 4-4-2 formation you should think we would be more lethal – but we’re not.

    We are a five men midfield team; and Ba on his own scores goals and a 5 men midfield will keep possession and helps us create chances.

    Pardew just needs to sort out his fullbacks, because wings in a 4-2-3-1 formation are not suppose to track back all the time, they are suppose to go forward, go in between the oppositions defense and midfield.

    Pardew should take a hard look at the likes of Barcelona, Ajax and Man Utd, if he needs inspiration how to utilize a one man attack with a deep #10 just behind.

    Ba has to operate as a false #9 dropping down and if one of the oppositions defender follows him, there will me plenty of space for HBA or one of our wingers.

    No more 4-4-2; it’s a dinosaur formation and we look laughable playing it – so one dimensional and easy to stop.

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Dec 19, 2011 at 8:18 AM

    Comment #15

    @Dyer8

    Mate, you got our formation right 😉 nice to see I am not the only one thinking we’re useless playing 4-4-2 with either players out of position or Best keeping much better players on the bench just in order to play 4-4-2.

    A great manager plays a formation and applies a tactic that complements the players you have and your philosophy.

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  • chanty

    Dec 19, 2011 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #16

    I would like to see this team:

    Krul
    Simmo Colo Perch Santon
    Tiote Vukic
    Obertan HBA Jonas
    Ba

    The 3 supporting Ba are quite capable of swapping positions. If we do stick to 442, prefer jonas to play on right with HBA on the left. Think he would work well with Santon

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  • yorkshire_mag

    Dec 19, 2011 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #17

    For me saturday showd Pards is going to go for vuckic which will give the lad a huge confidence lift and we will hopefully see what he can really do. I think Ben arfa has to be given a run on the wing, i know he may leave simpson a luttle exposed but if we play a five man midfiwld we can afford that. When he has previously played in the middle this season, it just seejs a little congested for his running game, which scare the absolute shite out off many full backs given the

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  • yorkshire_mag

    Dec 19, 2011 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #18

    chance, but will also give him the opportunity to step inside and show some off his creativity with some slick passing and clever balls aolready shown this season.
    As for jonas and santon, that could be a really good future partnership, i missed the first five mons on sat but i thort jonas was playing left bk he was switching position that much. That partnership can be better than jonas and enrique imho. Looking forward to weds! Howay the lads!!!

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  • yorkshire_mag

    Dec 19, 2011 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #19

    jesus just read back through my last comments, apollogies for the spelling, a few too many mulled wines last night me thinks. HTL

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  • nden85

    Dec 19, 2011 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #20

    i think gosling is back from suspension isn’t he? if so i think pardew will play him

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  • mickguk

    Dec 19, 2011 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #21

    Gosling isnt back mate he got a straight Red card, so 3 match ban.

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  • mickguk

    Dec 19, 2011 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #22

    Team for WBA
    Krul
    Simpson
    williamson
    Colicini
    Santon

    Obertan
    Tiote
    Vukic
    Guti

    Best
    Ba

    No game for HBA, Pardew bought him thinking he was going to play 4-4-1-1 and has since changed his mind. He will possibly get games away from home against middle of the table teams that Pardew doesnt feel confident enough to go 4-4-2.

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  • beddersmag

    Dec 19, 2011 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #23

    Jesper

    who exactly are the much better players best is keeping on the bench? better by reputation maybe but its on the pitch were it counts. We have played 442 all season and it has worked well. Particularly so when we have best playing as he does so much work and allows ba to stay in and around the box. Cant understand why anyone would want best out of the side. His workrate, speed, crossing and heading is as good as anyone we have and not so long ago he haf a strike tate like ba. Let him get a few games under his belt alongside ba and whatch us fly again….

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Dec 19, 2011 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #24

    @beddersmag

    If you for ones would be fair, you cannot ague that we have played well this season. Results and pure luck was in our favour until the Man City games. Since that we have witness how we performer under different circumstances.

    Best haven’t added much this season when used and for most of the games we have looked woeful when playing 4-4-2. Bare in mind that non of the top six teams play 4-4-2. Games against QPR, Norwich and Swansea are games we should win; if you watch those games can you honestly tell me we played well; Best adds nothing to the midfield and his contribution to the attack is debatable.

    We look much better with a 5 man midfield; and there is no point in playing either Ba or Best out of position, when we have HBA, Vukic, Abeit, Gosling or Guthrie.

    beddersmag , Best might run around alot, but he looks like a headless chicken, he has no technique what so ever and yes his good in the air, but so is Ba, and our philosophy is passing the ball and we need someone that can do that.

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