Newcastle conceded three goals last night, and that was the fourth time in the last six games that Newcastle have conceded three or more goals in a game.
What has happened to our defense?
Alan Pardew – after the game tonight
And it was simply a terrible result for Newcastle, who were way below par in the first half, but came back in the second half and played somewhere near the way they can play, but again they missed a lot of chances.
And the Magpies were caught on the break for all three goals that West Brom scored, and we assume Alan will pick the back four for our next game at Bolton Wanderers on Monday afternoon – and then drill them and drill them and drill them – you know what we mean.
The pace of players like Shane Long seemed too much for the Newcastle defense, as the Irishman went storming down the wing on the counter-attack more than once last night.
This is what Pardew told Sky Sports after the game:
“It’s an upsetting game for us to lose because we are at home.” “The first half I didn’t think we played anywhere near to our ability.”
“Second half we did. We came back from a goal down. We was bossing proceedings, looking like we were going to get back into it, and when we got the second goal it set us up for a grand stand finish.”
“But then to get done on the counter attack because of us looking for the win, maybe we were a little bit too desperate tonight.”
“We would have had 30 points if we won tonight and maybe we wanted it too much, and didn’t play as controlled as we usually do.”
“We were creating chance after chance before we scored and then when we did we thought there we go, we can win it, but the front two for West Brom Shane Long and Peter Odemwingie were a threat all night.
“They got down the side and had a bit of fortune for the goal I thought.”
The defense has become far too porous in these last six games, and we have conceded 7 goals in the last three games alone, against fairly mediocre opposition.
And Newcastle must find somebody else who can score goals other then Demba Ba, who scored another two brilliant goals tonight, and now has 13 of Newcastle’s 23 league goals, and more than everybody else put together.
While that’s great for Ba, who has been absolutely brilliant for Newcastle all season, but it’s not good for the Newcastle side, and other strikers must step up to the plate.
Newcastle have only 2 points from the last 6 games, after getting 25 points from the first 11 games of the season – a huge contrast between the two segments of the season so far.
But Newcastle must now try to get the win at second bottom Bolton Wanderers on Monday afternoon, but to do that the Newcastle defense will have to be an awful lot better than the way they played tonight.
Comments welcome.
33 comments so far
Brutooon
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:03 AM
Comment #1Its because of James Perch for GOD SAKE
Trust me, remove James Perch and we will get on our winning run back !!!
Ponderous Pardew
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:07 AM
Comment #2Gabriel Obertan – 1200 minutes played, 0 shots on target.
09nufc09
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:09 AM
Comment #3I have said since he signed vuckic was the best prospect at the club by a long way, he ooses class and has a very good shot on him but he isnt ready for the pl, in the same way sammy isnt ready. They need cameos at the end of games to learn when they have to make a run forward, when the have to drop deep, when to pass long and when to play it simple. Vuckic is alot closer to being ready thn sammy and if we had played him more in the chamionship instead of smith then he would be ready nw,
Davybtoon… Vuckic give it away a few times, the whole midfield was shocking at passing and marking,. Vuckic shooting was very good tho, i was sitting right behind the second one and it was dipping in perfect. Btw that ball ben arfa played to ba for his second goal was another world class pass, similar to the one against man city, noone expected it except ba and he finished it perfectly this time. Ben arfa has to play against bolton, best hasnt looked like scoring and isnt creating anything for ba and we are playing to much hoof ball with him on the pitch.
I would like to see 433 against bolton, ben arfa ba and vuckic up front with jonas cabaye and tiote behind. Hopefully santon is fit aswel because his pace was missed when he went off.
…Typed all that then ed makes another thread. lol
GeordieToon89
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:10 AM
Comment #4A Knew Eusebio was good but his record is probz the best ive ever seen,
For Benfica
437 Games – 462 Goals
Career Total
571 Games – 574 Goals
ARFA
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:10 AM
Comment #5my rating
obertan = 0
best = 0
jonas=1.5
davybtoon
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:12 AM
Comment #6brutoon u cant jus blame perch for everything, tiote n colo were to blame for the first goal, krul n the defenders at the back stick for the second, n colo, perch n simpson all to blame for the last
GeordieToon89
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:12 AM
Comment #7And Messi’s net worth is over £190million pounds :\
GAZ09
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:13 AM
Comment #8Perch, Best and Obertan must be dropped from now on, them guys are a major part of how bad we are playing!
davybtoon
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:14 AM
Comment #9buy the way santon was class again thomas never got a thing on him
Brutooon
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:15 AM
Comment #101) We need to rely of Leon Best when January come. Its important that he need to start scoring goals
2) HBA need to play from now on
3) Obertan and Jonas, at least one of them need to be dropped. Jonas is an “automatic selection”. We need some competition at Jonas’s position
4) maybe its time for Perch to be at the bench? or do we need to concede 30 goals in 3 games before we realise that?
davybtoon
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:15 AM
Comment #11u cant say that bcoz best n obertan were a major part of our winning run, but i do agree hba, vukic shud start next game
HamarMagpie
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:17 AM
Comment #12Yeah, brutoon. Blame our demise on Perch. Well done! We conceeded tonight because of a failed (lack of) tactic. Our midfield got stretched because of hopeful long balls which our strikers lost. Then we got countered, because of a empty midfield. Get real! Vuckic had a good game when you look at his shooting. BUT he left Tiote all by himself too many times. Not solely his fault though. More a tactical thing.
mickguk
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:17 AM
Comment #13We are rubbish !!
Ba will be off soon hes far too good for us !!
We wont beat Bolton, Everton or Man utd so let the slide continue!!!
Just goes to show we really did catch teams at the right time at the start of the season.
Pardew is hopeless
Simpson is a DONKEY!!
Obertan is a DONKEY!!
Tiote is a CHELSEA PLAYER!!
Sunderland above us by the Deby game and that is frightening !!
Brutooon
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:18 AM
Comment #14best and obertan are part of winning run team
PERCH is part of the losing run team
isn’t that OBVIOUS????
mickguk
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:18 AM
Comment #15*I meant Liverpool not Everton *
HamarMagpie
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:20 AM
Comment #16That said, I agree with some other points you make Brutoon. Introducing Williamson now, for instance. And HBA should start behind Ba in a 4-4-1-1. We need to be direct, but keep the ball more on the ground.
Brutooon
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:24 AM
Comment #17HamarMagpie
we should look at swansea. All of their players won’t go straight to NUFC first team. But the way they play is simple simple football (yup i do type simple twice intentionally)
they do short pass and keep the ball all the time – something we didnt do for the last 5 games
nden85
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:25 AM
Comment #18tiote was a disgrace today imo
LeedsMag
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:32 AM
Comment #19Hamar Magpie @12, spot on – long ball tactics bypassed the midfield and played into their hands when it broke down,they countered with pace and the full backs were often caught upfield leaving Colo and Perch exposed.At 2-2 especially we should have kept possession and shape and built the pressure.We had the players on the pitch to do it- Pardew should shoulder some responsibility – by the way Alan, we were bossing, not was bossing
MrNUFC
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:32 AM
Comment #20Perch was a disgrace tonight, am totally gutted as this is a game we needed to win. Why did Pardew take Santon off at half time? Vuckic deserved a goal for a such good performance. Tiote didnt want to know in my opinion!!! he’s away!! Gutted for the lads
dcbashore
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:37 AM
Comment #21It’s not just Perch. Teams are catching on that we have attack-minded fullbacks that don’t offer a ton defensively (though Santon will come around in time, I believe), and they’re spraying balls down the flanks on the counter to pull our CBs out of position as well. In the aim of being an attacking force we take too many chances going forward from the back/middle and leave the CBs, whoever they are, exposed.
I thought Perch with Coloccini has done a decent job. He gets beat from time to time but at 5-11 you can’t expect him to win everything at the CB position, it just doesn’t happen. When Williamson is fit, if he’s near where he was to the end of last season he’ll plug right in. But it’ll be more of the same if we not more careful on the back end.
LeedsMag
Dec 22, 2011 at 12:40 AM
Comment #22Just heard Pardew’s interview on the beeb – Santon has injured his knee – we’ll just have to wait and see.
This could be really bad.Santon’s knee history is really bad, and then there is Marveaux – its looking more and more like we’ve picked up 2 knackered players on the cheap – cheap for a reason – the recruiting policy suddenly looks flawed.
Christ – Maiga must have got off the plane in a wheelchair for him to fail our medical
Brutooon
Dec 22, 2011 at 1:44 AM
Comment #23James Perch Stats (this is only when he STARTS) :
2010/2011 as a RIGHT BACK
– 2 win, 1 draw 4 loses and thousands of YELLOW CARDS
2011/2012 as a Centre Back
– 3 lose, 1 draw (concede 10 goals)
Carling Cup 2011/2012
-Won against Nottingham but we concede 3 goals
-Lose against Blackburn where we concede 4 goals
abbo
Dec 22, 2011 at 2:28 AM
Comment #24@brutooon
Doesnt matter what stats you produce it doesnt hide the fact that you are a sad negative w*nker who was prob out in your usual gaybar & bumped into perch, tried touchin him up, got knocked back & have had nothing but resentment ever since!! Act as tho your a toon fan your nothin but a closet unwashed mackem! Jog on
Thump
Dec 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM
Comment #25I think abbo is fast becoming one of my favourite posters on here next to (in no particular order) joppadoni, Dannyo, GeordieGerman, boater, JackButler etc.
taker83
Dec 22, 2011 at 2:55 AM
Comment #26Ambani to take over.
Ancelotti our new manager.
hope it will happen in my dream.
neway against bolton
Krul
Simmo Willo Collo Santon
Cabaye Tiote Guttirez
Arfa Ba Vuckic
mattyNUFC
Dec 22, 2011 at 4:01 AM
Comment #27whatever the reasons for that disgrace tonight (there were plenty) something needs to change NOW. from top to bottom, NUFC; get your sh!t together and soon
Malaytoon
Dec 22, 2011 at 4:30 AM
Comment #28Come on u guys! Don’t just give up like that…when we were winning everybody was happy and said we are the best and everything..now we started to lose and draw and all u guys starting talking rubbish about the team…come on believe in our team! Soon or later we will get our form back! Just stick to our team!
catchy in norway
Dec 22, 2011 at 6:11 AM
Comment #29when we were wining games , we were very lucky at times, we won games we shouldnt have, much in the way west brom did last night,
our demise is down to playing to many poor players, and players out of form,
imo we have players that really are good enough for the prem or ones who would get into team that float between the championship and prem
krul = is a class keeper and will get better , needs to work on his kicking, kicks to many out
simpson = he is a player that cost 500k and looks like one to,
colo = top prem player, took some time to adapt but with saylor they both form one of the best partnerships in the prem, we need to find a good replacement for saylor,
saylor =, could be an england defender, heart of a lion, not as rash as he was,
perch= not good enough for this league, way out of his depth,
raylor = not the quickest, but is steady enough to help out, for me he should be our RB, or playing RW, at least he can cross a ball
obertan, = out of his depth in the prem league, to many of our supporters are to simpethetic towards him, but sorry, this guy is an athlete not a footballer, and i believe we have ppl in the stands that could do a much better job than him, i just found this page , read it and tell me he deserves a place in the squad let alone the first team
http://www.eplindex.com/obertan-gutierrez-faulty-
production-line/
cabaye = class, pure class, buy of the season, has it all in my book, energy,vision,and the quality to pull it off,
tiote, = lost his way in the last 2 games, but still for me one of the best players we have, normally an outstanding player week in week out for us,
jonas = has amazing work rate, and is always willing to try and take on players, but not much end product,
best = not good enough, misses way to many chances,
ba, = pretty close to cabaye for buy of the season, and for me being let down big style by our 2 wingers, in ba we have a player as good as shearer and sir les in the air, quick and stong, with a great shot, if he had 2 good wingers pinging in crosses, he would be leading the goal scoring in the prem, this im sure of
subs
shola = not good enough, not even as a squad player, having him around is styfiling the progress of the younger ones,
HBA = should be in the first team week in week out, loves the ball at his feet, van spot passes and make them to
marvauxe, = should when fit start in place of jonas, just the few time he played he looked really good
sam ameobi = great young prospect, has abilty and a good work ethic,
vuckic,= looks to have it all in his game and will only improve, very classy when on the ball
ferguson = good enough to be our left back now from the games i seen last year, could also play LW
santon = like the look of him, but last night he left gaps behind him to many times, has to learn when to get forward and when to stay back
headtheball
Dec 22, 2011 at 6:14 AM
Comment #30I really do believe Obertan has had plenty of chances to gain confidence or whatever is his problem. HBA Fergie and Vuckic should now be given a decent run.If not how about giving Chris H or someone who can recognise a problem a chance to remedy our decline before it is too late.We have a better Squad than 12 months ago so come on Mr Manager stop stating the Bleeding obvious and try something different.Think Beyond the Square!(Oberton Perch) Heaven help us.
Colocool
Dec 22, 2011 at 6:56 AM
Comment #31Why is Pardew sticking with Perch at CB, his positional sense is all wrong, ends up on the wrong side of the attacker regularly hence has to make these sliding tackles which are very difficult to time , Colo lack of pace was evident , Santon was out of position regularly in d 1st half , Vuckic though good on the ball really didnt provide much cover to Tiote …And we desperately need another striker come Jan we will have no one to put the ball at the back of the net coz Best,SA are not PL quality …
Brutooon
Dec 22, 2011 at 7:03 AM
Comment #32Abbo : I am a hardcore NUFC fans, but playing Perch week in week out show lack of ambition by the club
abbo
Dec 22, 2011 at 9:30 AM
Comment #33@brutooon
Hardcore obsession with perch more like!
Explain to me how playing perch is a lack of ambition?? Then tell me from your experience of being a top flight manager how you would of won us the game?? (although i am expecting your usual responce of being a top flight gobshite!!)
Silly me i should of realised earlier……..you have got a bet with a friend to see how many times you can mention perch on this blog havnt ya………