Don’t Hold Your Breath On Andy Carroll Ever Returning To Newcastle


There has been a  lot of talk on the blog about the possibility of Andy Carroll returning to Newcastle.

Andy Carroll – while at Newcastle and scoring goals

And I’ve also received a number of emails asking whether it would be possible to get Andy back on Tyneside, either on a loan deal or on a permanent deal.

But it’s very unlikely that Andy Carroll will ever play for Newcastle again, and we think Newcastle have moved on, after they received the massive £35M fee  for Carroll last January.

Andy has not done well, at least not so far at Liverpool,  and has only scored 5 goals  in his 23 appearances  for the Reds,  since signing for them on January 31st this year, in a move that simply infuriated Newcastle fans.

Contrast that to what Andy did last year at Newcastle, when the Gateshead lad, who turns 23 a week on Friday, scored 25 goals for Newcastle and 11 of those were in the Premier League.

When he signed for Liverpool he was at the peak of both his form and his fame, and had just made his  debut for England and was red hot, and he was referred to by Fabio Capello as the future of England football.

But things have dramatically cooled for the former young Newcastle number 9, and the Magpies brought in Demba Ba in the summer, and the 26 year-old Senegal striker has turned out to be a much better scorer of goals than Andy will ever be, and he’s now red hot.

Ba has scored 14 goals in his 19 appearances for Newcastle,  and with the goals he scored at West Ham earlier in the year, he has 21 goals in 32 appearances in the Premier League this year. That’s simply terrific.

And compared to the fee of £35M Liverpool paid for Carroll, Newcastle picked up Ba on a free transfer from West Ham.

When you take into account the fees paid to agents and the player himself, we’d be surprised if Newcastle paid much more than £1M in total for Newcastle’s new striker, who may wear the number 9 shirt next season.

Newcastle owner Mike Ashley is not well liked on Tyneside, but to replace Andy Carroll with Demba Ba and make a profit of around £34M on the two deals, makes him look like a financial genius.

They are two of the best deals Newcastle have made in many a long year, and so different from when Freddy Shepherd was running the club.

Freddy was doing what Liverpool have just done – and vastly overpaid for their players in both the fees and the wages paid out.

It may be sentimental to think we could get Andy back on Tyneside, but it’s not going to happen.

But of  course we have to hope that Andy doesn’t hit his goal-scoring form against Newcastle on Friday night at Anfield.

Comments welcome.



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121 comments so far

  • Dannyo

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #1

    @WWJBD
    Well, he’s not the only one saying that name, that has been going on for about a week now.
    With a deal agreed, sorting terms with FC Twente and whatnot. It’s all over the place.
    Dunno if it’s wishfull thinking or if there’s something in it.
    We can only hope 😉

    @toonarmy
    Well, that may be, imo, Raylor is getting passed way to many times, either by the ball or by the player. Suarez will kill him, hope Santon starts.

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  • geoff777

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #2

    Carroll will hit form at some point.

    Fingers-crossed it doesn’t start against us.

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  • spitfire_

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #3

    Pardew just said that will not be buy any striker… I wonder what we will doing if Ba is injured… go Shola, go Besty and McLoven? It will be funny.

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  • Dannyo

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #4

    Oh crap, AP has confirmed in the presser: No striker in January, we’ve go with what we’ve got.

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  • WWJBD

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #5

    Dannyo
    Pards just said no striker in Jan mate so we are boned

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  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #6

    even if he gets a hat trick against us , I woud never want him back. It would mean a complete return to ”hoofball”. Mind you for an hour v Bolton, that’s all we did.

    BA on a free is head and shoulders (not literally) above Carroll in every department on and off the pitch. We got the deal of the century on that.

    When Pardew finally gives up the long ball to Best in favour of a passing game around Vuksic / Ben Arfa then hopefully happy days. I think a lot of Liverpool fans are furious Dalglish has spent nearly 100M on 3 average English players.

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  • Charlietoon

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #7

    I would hardly say Andy was at the peak of his form when we sold him. He had not played for two months. However I could see us getting him back one day. If he crashes and burns at Liverpool then in a few more years I could see us offering a cheeky amount to get him back. Yes it would be a bit like Spurs buying Keane back from the pool and might not work out but we only pay 8 mill or so and as a home town boy he might just rediscover the form the made him legendary.

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  • colwell

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #8

    FFS no striker in Jan what a pi#s take. We are desperate Ba is away, Best and Shola struggle too play a run of games without getting injured. No doubt we’ll end up signing 1 player a GK lol.

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  • Dannyo

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #9

    @colwell
    Aye, very dissapointing. We’ve replaced AC, but we needed additional strikers when he was here. Not good imo, not good.

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  • seantoon

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #10

    I think we should make a move for the 2 youngsters out of contract in the summer at man utd Pogba and Ravel Morrison either on loan or try get them both on the cheap. They both have fantastic careers ahead of the and who knows if we gave them abit of game time they might just agree to stay in the summer

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  • Ben_BKK

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #11

    Everyone seen the Montpellier president saying we’re too small for Giroud? And that he’d cost 50-60 million Euros anyway.

    http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/12/28/manual_093131.html&BID=165

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  • Graeme

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #12

    AC looked great when he was at NUFC because everything was geared around playing to his strength. Luckypoo don’t play that way and expected him to adapt, which he hasn’t, maybe he cant!!

    We on the other hand have changed the way we play the game – the first 11 games AC wouldn’t have fitted in at all, although, the first half against Bolton, we could have done with him on the pitch!!

    He’s made his bed, now he has to sleep in it – hopefully things will come good for him at Poo, as long as it doesn’t start on Friday. In reality, I can see him going the same way as a big signing No9 at Chelski – out the door!!!!

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  • JackButler

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #13

    For me and I think just about everyone else it was very obvious what Carrols’s strengths were when he was play for us, so why the hell do you pay 35mil for the lad and then not play to them?.

    Pardew just said on SSN that ‘He doesn’t think we’ll be bringing in a striker during the Window, we’ll look to the summer’ FFS

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  • geoff777

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #14

    This lot are unbelievable.

    They messed us around all summer with their 100% sure we’ll sign a striker.

    Llambias had months to do the deals for a striker and CB.

    Now they can’t get a deal done this window.

    Our season now hinges on Ba avoiding injury.
    Or NUFC fans will have to watch Best, Shola & Lovenkrands none of them are top ten strikers.

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  • nimo

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #15

    Geoff none r premiership strikers

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  • Dannyo

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #16

    All we can hope for now then is a top notch CB.

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  • nimo

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #17

    Absolute joke.. pards is obviously more of a nodding dog then i realised.. Its obvious for all t see we need another top striker

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  • WWJBD

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #18

    All it means is HBA or Vuckic behind Best or Shola for Jan…relax lads. We were never going to get a ST after Saylor got injured

    WWJBD out until the waters have calmed

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  • DarloGeordie

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #19

    So people bitch and moan about having no strikers then rumours spread about AC back and again people are not happy, yet you still request depth in the squad… hmm… Suppose there are better options

    My guess as to why Ashley won’t spend on a new striker is because he has seen our points tally and his happy that we have just about secured Premier league status even with half the season to go… He won’t spend because he doesn’t need to he isn’t bothered about European footy it’s the fans that want it not him.

    We may not score many while Ba is away but as has been said this season we have built ourselves from defence and with some cOver in this area c Oming in through jan and with Ba’s return in the new year we will still be in the top half come the end of the season.

    Chill your boots and enjoy the rollercoaster that is NUFC!!

    HWTL

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  • JackButler

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #20

    No doubt we’ll end up with Lian Ridgewell, can’t see us spending anything of note as Padew has said that that prices are too inflated during this window that his latest excuse for not getting a striker in the door

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  • Toonboy_84

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #21

    Imagine how much of a legend Andy would have been had he said:

    “sorry big mike, this is my club and I’m going nowhere.”

    To be honest I’d take demba over Andy all day long but still wish he never left. Our attacking options would look a lot better with him still here.

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  • geoff777

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #22

    “Pardew Hails The Toon Army”

    “NUFC fans are amazing”

    Screwed over yet again …

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  • alex84

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #23

    I really don’t Want to be a negative creep, but this is another risky move with no striker coming in…its getting beyond a joke if Ba gets injured have to rely on best who is playing terrible at the mo, or the injury probé shola. FFS

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  • Bolton toon fan

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #24

    Oh well we will lose our only good striker for a month in january and have make do with strikers who wont get 5 between them in that time.If ba gets injured on international duty we are then screwed unti he gets fit again.
    I dont see why we arent getting a striker in january when it can only benefit our team.Doesnt fat ashley understand that if we were to get one good goalscorer to play with ba then europe could be a stong possibility next season meaning more money for them.
    Obviously a defender is our main priority given what happened to saylor but i dont see us getting that ajax lad vertonghen.
    Either way im still behind the boys 100%.Just wish we had a board with some sort of ambition and a manager with a little backbone and managerial sense.And im praying we wont lose anyone important in january which most probably will happen.

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  • jimmymagpie

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #25

    The fat man comes up trumps yet again – you can have a striker or a defender, not both. A striker was considered urgent even after we signed Ba in August. Now, even though he has scored over 50% of our league goals, and is missing for a month, or, could get injured at any time, a striker is no longer deemed necessary. The pundits will say, ‘ small time club ‘ and they are right! Ba isn’t even a certainty for Friday, as he’s got a knock. I was at Bolton on Monday, and if it comes down to Ameobi and Best, bye-bye FA Cup, and a slide down the league.

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  • carrollsinger

    Dec 28, 2011 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #26

    You all know it’s gonna happen Carroll will score against us! But I’m hoping it’s in his own net

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  • jimmymagpie

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #27

    Ashley is only interested in the books looking good for the first acceptable offer. Every club carries debt. The main thing is that the debt is sustainable and serviceable. This is normal business practice, but Ashley wants NO DEBT so that the books look clean. This is the only strategy in place at SJP, there isn’t a football one.

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  • solano

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #28

    Why are people so upset about no new striker in Jan? Llambias said it is the worst time to buy over a year ago. Are we gonna have a couple of days when everyone is up in arms about being lied to again, then they go back to dreaming about the next transfer window when we will “definitely” spend.
    Wake up! We are a transfer profiteering enterprise and feeder club. That’s what you give your money to, that’s what they have stated we are, and that’s what you are getting. Rotonda Heights and the rest of the football equivalents of the Holocaust Deniers are happy with that. are the rest of you?

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  • LAME PERCH

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #29

    pardew may supprise us by signing players. he doesnt wana revel coZ every player we r linkd wit other club will go for then. they know now wich evea player newcastle r linked with are cheap & class 😉

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  • jasper

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #30

    I not surprised that AP is playing down the likelihood of a striker in Jan. I would expect him to do so even if he’s got someone in mind. The whole thing is a poker game and he does not want to give his hand away. MA’s priority is to get a good deal, not to pander to the fans with populist pronouncements of his true intentions. Wait and see.

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  • roshan MAGPIE

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #31

    PARDEw said that we are not going to bring a striker in january

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  • roshan MAGPIE

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #32

    jimmy MAGPIE you are not suited to be a NUFC fan i suggest you support man city just because we wont sign ba DOSENT mean we are going to get relegated

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  • alex84

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #33

    Agreed Jimmy, I fear its going to get worse with Tiote being sold.

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  • jimmymagpie

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #34

    I think Pardew could easily walk away from this in the summer. No football man, who has any ambition, will put up with being in charge of a potentially top 6 club, and continually have the ground cut away from beneath him. He is either beholden to the fatman, or, he has no spine, after the fuss he ALLEGEDLY kicked up in the summer when a striker wasn’t signed. It really does make you think about the true reasons for the Maiga deal collapsing.

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  • solano

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #35

    Roshan…I suggest you go to your English class!

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  • magfly

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #36

    I think this is a smoke screen and they will buy a striker these lot love to lie through their back teeth.It is so they can offer peanuts when they do sign a striker Pardew is a big liar I never believe anything he says now.

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  • TOONCHRIS

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #37

    Did anyone seriously think we had any intention of getting a striker in january and if any one is expecting a top class defender forget that 1 aswell,Tiote will be gone on the last day of the window n we may get some cheap as chips defender (RIDGEWELL) in,come on people get real this is FAT MIKE we talkin about,all hope of finishing in the top 8 will be gone without any new players in,call me a negger as much as you like i am just being a realist

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  • supatoonkid

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #38

    http://bit.ly/so5xHj this best be a joke, or i will be pissed off. If we don’t buy a striker then we are f’d, we must at least in January bring in a striker and centre back. I’d never accept Carroll back though he is Judas and should never be allowed to return to the City leave alone the club.

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  • jimmymagpie

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #39

    Roshan – who the hell said we going to get relegated? READ PROPERLY! I’ve been well suited for 63 years and always give full support to the 11 on the park on match day, unlike some, but what the hell do you think these blogs are for, other than to express heart felt opinions AND MISGIVINGS!

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  • Lee Dodd

    Dec 28, 2011 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #40

    Its all a Smoke Screen lads – Why Did we Give Maiga a Medical ??? Yes We need a Central Defender and a Midfielder and Striker… Ashley Put Your Steak and Kidney Pie Down and Sign The Bloody Paperwork !!!!!

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