Will Newcastle Increase Bid For West Ham’s James Tomkins?


It’s probably not new news, but it’s being reported that Newcastle will need to raise their bid for James Tomkins,  if West Ham are to sell.

James Tomkins of West Ham

That came from West Ham manager Sam Allardyce, but he seemed to be saying the same thing early last week, as Newcastle had a £2.5M bid turned down for the West Ham 22 year-old center-back.

James is a very good player, who has played 10 times for the England U21 side and 87 times for the West Ham first team.

Newcastle need to sign a new center-back in January, and when they do, that should give us four top class center-backs, and a couple of days ago Newcastle were said to have Ajax’s Jan Vertonghen as their first choice,  with James Tomkins second in line.

However, it was only yesterday that Newcastle were linked with Middlebrough’s 23 year-old Australian defender Rhys Williams, who is said to be worth about £3M.

Vertonghen would likely be the most expensive choice for Newcastle, and could be as high as a £10M fee, so it’s a bit of a surprise if he is indeed the number one choice of the Magpies.

But Chief Scout Graham Carr is said to be pushing for the 35 capped Belgium International, and of course Graham has a great track record at Newcastle,  and people listen to the 67 year-old at the Tyneside club.

Newcastle were also linked with Manchester City’s Nedum Onuoha, and he would be a good acquisition too for Newcastle, so the club do not  seem short of options, but they will want to get the very best deal possible.

We wouldn’t mind it if Rhys Williams joins Newcastle, since he seems to be a very solid player, and he can certainly improve on Tyneside, and he  can also play in a number of different positions.

Newcastle could raise their bid for James Tomkins, but we don’t think they would go anywhere above £5M, and if that’s not the mega-bid big Sam wanted, then maybe Kenny Dalglish of Liverpool could be interested. 😀

We’d be okay with any of the players we are linked with currently – Vertonghen, Tomkins, Onouoha or Williams – join Newcastle,  and the question becomes where can the club get the best deal?

It wouldn’t surprise us if Newcastle end up going for Rys Williams of Middlesbrough at £3M, since his contract runs out in 18 months, and £3M would seem to be a decent price for the 9 times capped Australian International.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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18 comments so far

  • Dannyo

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #1

    I’m still dreaming about Vertenhogen, a rock at the back, who can do well going forward to. Exactly the type for our kind of football.

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  • LewSpi

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #2

    I agree Dannyo. Drooling.

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  • Ameobi No.9

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #3

    Response to previous post because Ed is too fast posting blogs 😛

    BelfastMagpie87 // Dec 30, 2011 at 11:54 AM

    Well if im Jonas & I’ve been playing shit for 6/7 games on the trot & im still starting every week.
    Im not gonna play any better.
    He needs to be dropped for a few games In my opinion.

    I dont suppose you have seen Obertan lately have you Belfast? he has been missing since we bought him..

    Why give players stick when they are working hard for the club.
    Just because Jonas is not scoring 5 goals every game does not mean he is playing ‘shit’ he works hard making sure the opposition dont get down the left to put in crosses, and while I agree that he should be performing better in terms of crossing and shooting, he wins us a hell of a lot of freekicks, so at least he is contributing something to the team.

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  • Rosted Pork

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #4

    yea would love vertonghen. but if v can get him then tomkins but for 4mill not more than that

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  • BelfastMagpie87

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #5

    Ameobi No.9 // Dec 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM

    Yes mate obertan has been poor aswell.lol

    But I dont see why Jonas can get away with playing poorly & Obertan cant.

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  • BelfastMagpie87

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #6

    RT @NUFC_Stats: Gabriel Obertan has created the most chances at Nufc from open play this season (18) #nufc
    21 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    Im actually a big fan Of Jonas mate but he’s been a passenger for weeks.

    Just dont see why people slag off Obertan & not Jonas…

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  • Rosted Pork

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #7

    trust me jonas will play better 2day

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  • Ameobi No.9

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #8

    because unlike Obertan, Jonas has been running around every match this season. Obertan shy’s away from it all and never looks interested. Dropping Jonas could be a good move, maybe try out Sammy on the right then sub him off around 60 mins as he will be pretty tired by then (he is only young) and give Jonas 30 mins every match to find some form, or make him pull his finger out.
    I am afraid the only thing that we can do to make Obertan do anything is drop him to the reserves, let him remember all the happy times he had there for Man U and he may start to pull his weight a little

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  • LEROI

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #9

    are people getting mixed up between James Tomkins & James Collins? Or are we after both? Here’s my choices in order of quality at centre back
    1= Vertonghen
    2=Onouha
    3=(Collins)
    4=Williams
    5=Tomkins

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  • BelfastMagpie87

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #10

    I just think he would benefit from being dropped for a few games. 🙂

    Or just play him left back.

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  • GeordieGerman

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #11

    Jonas is having to work to hard at the back covering Raylor, so he can’t get up front as we/he likes to.

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  • Tsunki

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #12

    Having trouble keeping up with the blogfest today!

    Ameobi / GeordieGerman:

    Agree with you about Jonas – I said in the last post Jonas isn’t his normal self because he’s working too hard and looking over his shoulder and I think its all catching up with him. Santon would be better than Raylor so Jonas can spend less time tracking back and covering. I think our relatively small squad means that most of our players get little rest unlike the top six who get more rotation.

    As for obertan, well dropping him wouldn’t do much good – I think he’s a player who needs to be stuck with for a while, we’ve had them before. I’d like to think he’ll keep enrique busy and pegged back but cant see it tonight – although his best shows have been away so….

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    Dec 30, 2011 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #13

    l have no idea is the answer to your question and only Ashley, Pardew and co know the answer to that one.
    We need an adaptable player who can play in the centre of defence and also fill in where our squad is weak.
    Their decision making so far has been well above average so lets trust in our managers selection and endorsement from Ashley.
    Anyone know how much debt owed to Ashley has been paid off . All you financial experts out there please explain. Also if possible can you give me a link to the accounts, if this is allowable?

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  • jakesome

    Dec 30, 2011 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #14

    @5 the reason oba will get dropped and not jonas is because the defensive ability of jonas and his willingness to keep on running even when its not happening for him going forward

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  • MT

    Dec 30, 2011 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #15

    if Tomkins not over 5m, we buy him. I hope Jan Vertonghen
    join us. but in fact, ajax will sell him a good price. (we can
    afford it.)

    we also need one winger,because Gabriel Obertan & Jonas
    not good enough. Samuel Ameobi is just Championship level. add nacer chadli, good pace, skill & score.

    sell Alan Smith, Lovenkrands & Ranger.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #16

    Really hope we don’t go for Tomkins. I know he is young but he made Best look like Messi !!!!!!!!

    So many better options such as M’Biwa, Rhys Williams and sadly out of our league Vertonghen etc

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  • Whos_SuperMac

    Dec 30, 2011 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #17

    Have to remember, Pardew has good links at West Ham. His contacts there put him onto Demba Ba, Tomkins could be another bargain buy.

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  • max

    Dec 30, 2011 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #18

    as long as we get a new CB then i’m satisfied

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