Tomkins A Target – But Mayuka, Ciani and Onuoha Are Not


There doesn’t seem to be much movement by Newcastle in the transfer market so far.

James Tomkins – still a Newcastle target

But we understand nothing much will happen until the meeting this week with Derek LLambias, manager Alan Pardew, Secretary Lee Charnley and Chief Scout Graham Carr takes place, to better identify their strategy during this January window.

The news is that both Derek Llambias and Lee Charnley have returned from their short Christmas breaks, and Newcastle are already being inundated by agents with central defenders, as they know Newcastle need to sign a top center-back this month.

The Journal is reporting this morning that Young Boys  Zambian striker Emmanuel Mayuka, Bordeaux’s Michael Ciani and Manchester City’s Nedum Onuoha are not now Newcastle targets.

It appears that West Ham’s James Tomkins is still a target,  and that Newcastle may go back to West Ham with an improved offer,  after being turned down with their initial bid of around £2.5M a couple of weeks ago.

And Newcastle will not look at doing any loan deals in January, and that’s hardly surprising after last year’s loan deal of Aston Villa’s Stephen Ireland, which turned out to be an absolute disaster.

Stephen was signed on January 31st  when he was still injured, and after some weeks recovering he made two short sub appearances, and then was injured again in training, and sent back to Villa.

Stephen scored one of the goals that had Villa beating Chelsea 3-2 over the weekend, with two late Villa goals, but he’s only just forced his way into the side, under new manager Alex McLeish.

But after that excellent win by the Villa, they managed to lose at home to Swansea 2-0 yesterday, and they are now in 12th place with 23 points.

Why did Alex McLeish ever  get that job?

James Tomkins has changed his agent, and the feeling within the club is that could help Newcastle, and the 22 year-old is also in the process of negotiating a new deal with West Ham, and we know manager Sam Allardyce doesn’t want to lose him.

West Ham are looking for a big offer before they will sell the 6’3″ England U21 International defender,  but we just cannot see that coming from Mike Ashley.

We think maybe £5M is the biggest bid Newcastle would ever make for Tomkins, and that will not be big enough to tempt West Ham to sell.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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136 comments so far

  • toonthompson

    Jan 3, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #1

    Sky sports is reporting that hull want Steve harper on loan

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  • Ponderous Pardew

    Jan 3, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #2

    Rather have Onuoha.

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  • cyprus

    Jan 3, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #3

    All these players seem very ‘pedestrian’ Ed. We need a step up from what we have and some flair. ie. Latin America!

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  • Liam

    Jan 3, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #4

    I would personally love to see Tomkins at the club, with colo’s contract signing still being drawn out who is to say he won’t leave in 2012, Build a strong CB pairing between him and Taylor in the future, I just doubt Ashley’s willingness to invest! Would also love to see Onuoha as he provides cover for both centre and full back positions!

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  • WesJameson

    Jan 3, 2012 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #5

    Yeah sounds about right Ed, supporting Newcastle is probably the most frustrating fekking thing in the world….

    Just look at the weekend results, i will put my whole fekking life up for sale and say that NUFC will not achieve a result like Villa did, or like the Scum have,

    We are going to loose against Manure ( thats a Given ) and my prediction is a free fall for the rest of the season, with Scumberland finishing above us ( they have probably the best Manager of a “smaller” team in the WORLD, aka Martin O’Neill ) which makes my fekking blood boil

    When will this curse be lifted off SJP?? Oh fekk sorry…i meant the Sports direct arena FFS

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  • Graeme

    Jan 3, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #6

    The bottom line is nobody has a clue who we are after, including NUFC!!

    Once we have the secret squirrel meeting between the Scouts, the Manager, the MD, the Tea Lady, to define our objectives in this window, we should be ready to swoop on out targets by around mid March.

    Surely the targets were defined two days after it was confirmed S Taylor was out for the season – we already knew we needed a Central Defender 6 months before he was hurt. That of course was in addition to the Striker we have been waiting a year to see!!

    Happy days at NUFC lol

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  • WesJameson

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #7

    No loan moves?? So let me get this right then, we are missing Taylor ( The rock ) we will be missing Ba, and Tiote ( Chelski, or Liverfool bound, and Afcon ) We have McLoven and Strolla, Both can’t hit the broadside of a barn, we have no central defensive cover, Simpson is rubbish, Obertan is rubbish as well as Jonas is rubbish, to be perfectly honest ( Only God Knows how he ever made the Argentinian Team, alongside the likes of Tevez,Messi,De Maria etc etc ) well done Mike and Derrick, keep telling yourselves that you know how to run a football club FFS, both are fat fekking wank@#s

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  • WesJameson

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #8

    @ Graeme // Jan 3, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    Couldnt agree more there mate, Newcastle is in a shambles, but the lucky/great start to the season has clouded peoples judgments, as well as their vision!!! Mark my words Lads, we will have the lowest ever finish for a team with that start after 11 games, the lowest ever i think was twelfth, and only twice has a team with that start finished outside the top 10, this will be the third

    Thanks Mike, we fekking Love you, you fat F@#$

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  • jayphoto

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #9

    Shouldn’t that meeting have taken place weeks ago??
    Our board are ridiculous when it comes to transfers, we’ve literally needed a striker since the 2010 summer transfer window (at the time to take the pressure off carroll, now its Ba). We NEED 3 players! We’re absolutely desperate for a centrehalf, preferrably one that can cover left back, We need a striker that will compliment Ba and we need a right winger to give some competition to Obertan (can see Marveaux being out full time left winger, his end product is much better than jonas). A dream window would see us sign Samba, Hoilett and Sow, however it wouldn’t shock me if we only signed James Tompkins!

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  • dawid182

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #10

    Which part of him is the top centre half? When Cashley said, we gonna buy a top defender, Im sorry, but I was thinking about a Verthongen or Samba, but it looks like i had good faith about that…. so we wont buy a striker because we have to spend for Tomkins.

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  • elpaso_geordie

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #11

    Alot of dipshits on here thought Martin Oneil was going to do nowt at Scumderland. Wrong!!!!!

    Same idiots thinking we going to go for European spot . Wrong !!!!!

    Hope everybody prepared for the big sale this window as well as reaction on here to something pretty obvious is pathetic . only have to read the matchday thread to see we have mentally challenged people on here

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  • Scottishmag1

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #12

    Compliment Ba as well as replace him as a goal scorer for the 5/6 games he will miss!!

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  • taker83

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #13

    I just hate Derek lambasssssssssssssssssssss

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  • Scottishmag1

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #14

    @10

    Bit harsh!

    this is meant to be a blog of opinions irrespective of who’s and what

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #15

    The only times I have seen Tomkins play, he has been the ”Bramble of the South.” Always a costly error in him. As mentioned several times, Tomkins made Best (hardly premiership class himself) look like Messi. Really can’t see the attraction there.

    If Smith goes out and M’Biwa or Douglas come in, that would be a great start. More likely if not Tomkins, then a journeyman like Ridgwell though.

    No doubt after tomorrow night we can all again reflect on why:-

    1) We play ”hoof ball” when we have some really good technical ball players ?
    2) Why we are so ultra – conservative (1 shot v Liverpool?)
    3) Why do we play people out of position ?
    4) Why do we play certain ”Pardew favouites” over our better players?
    5) Why do we make the wrong subs and always leave it so late in the game?

    Then again we may all be very pleasantly surprised. Hmmmm……….

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  • Toonboy_84

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #16

    Well it must be first day back at work today. Everybody is so happy today.

    The neggars are out in full force!

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  • colwell

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #17

    Yeah lets try and sign Tomkins someone who got ripped apart by Leon Best.

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  • WesJameson

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #18

    How can we NOT FEKKING BE AFTER ONOUHA????

    Correct me if im wrong here Lads, but as far as i can see, and know, Nedham is the closest thing to Micah Richards, i mean if there was even the remotest chance of getting such a player, WHY ON GOD’S GREEN EARTH WOULD WE NOT GO FOR HIM?????? FFS, what a crappy year 2012 promises to be, i dont know if i even want to watch football anymore, no point really

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  • Scottishmag1

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #19

    Rotonda

    to avoid the above, we shopuld be looking to start something

    ………………………..Krul…………………………………

    Simpson………..Willo……..Colo………..Santon

    …….Abied…………Cabaye……….Tiote

    ……..HBA……………………………….Jonas

    …………………………BA…………………….

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  • WesJameson

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #20

    @ Toonboy_84 // Jan 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    Why don’t you add some value to calling people neggars mate? The truth hurts mate, no two ways about it

    @ colwell // Jan 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    Well said mate, well said

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  • Toonboy_84

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #21

    What a happy chappy you are Wes.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #22

    Toonboy 84

    5 points out of 24. Oh yeah give us more of that !!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #23

    scottishmag1

    That would be my team too, but with Pardwho, never going to happen.

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  • Scottishmag1

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #24

    Rotonda

    Agree ref Pardew, do not understand why as you have the option of 4,5,1 or 4,3,3 both offering cover for the RB and LB which to be fair we shouldn’t need under Santon and LB but Abied could offer Simpson some cover.

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  • LewSpi

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #25

    Graeme @ 6, I couldn’t agree more, and why was this meeting not held BEFORE Lame arse went on holiday, so we could crack on.

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  • WesJameson

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #26

    @ Toonboy_84 // Jan 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    That i am mate, that i am…… i mean why wouldnt i be?

    5 points from 24, WOW so much to be ecstatic about, i dont blame the team for one second, trust me, i know that 99% of the time, our Lads never give up, i blame the board, the fat cats upstairs, they have no clue mate, none whats so ever, i mean fair enough, financially we are a lot more stable, but in this day and age, if you don’t spend, you are left far far behind in the dust mate

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  • jimmymagpie

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #27

    Bloody hell, I used to get dog’s abuse on here for telling it as it is, but I’m well down the pecking order now. Welcome to those who have finally woken up to how our club is being run by remote control from London, by individuals only interested in the finance for their own ends, and not the clubs’. I expect a lot more will be joining us realists on 1st Feb when the window closes, and all we’ve done is bring in a 2nd rate defender, IF THAT. I’ve watched Tomkins a few times – what is our cclub’s obsession with short ar-ed, less than physical defenders who can’t defend balls across their own area in the air – Simpson, Perch, Willo who can’t jump, Raylor, even Colo, because that is the weakest part of his game. What’s wrong with a bloody big man mountain like Samba? Apart from the fact of course that Fatso won’t pay the price.

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  • BigKirky

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #28

    @lee_ryder: And Gabriel Obertan has been declared fit for the game with #mufc – more in tonight’s Chronicle #nufc

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #29

    Scottishmage

    the tragic thing is you, me and the man on the steet can see it, but Pardwho has no plan B and it’s his way or the highway. Would love to see Abeid.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #30

    scottishmag1 even !

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  • LewSpi

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #31

    “@lee_ryder: #nufc Lewis Dunk is a target for Newcastle – full story in tonight’s @ChronicleNUFC #brighton”

    Also, Obertan been declared fit for tomorrow.

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  • Dannyo

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #32

    Who’s Lewis Dunk? Looks like a big lad in the paper tho.

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  • Toonboy_84

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #33

    Guys, I’m not looking for a row. Just commenting on the mood of the blog today. And retonda I’m not happy about our recent points return of late either but p’ssing and moaning about it on a blog is only gonna make it worse if anything. I’m gonna stay positive. Negativity on here will only influence people in the stands. The lads need all the support they can get right now. HWTL!

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  • WesJameson

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #34

    @ Toonboy_84 // Jan 3, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Fair enough mate

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  • Scottishmag1

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #35

    Jimmy,

    agree, you only get what you pay for in most instances, we have has a few exceptions with Cabaye, Tiote, Abied and Demba. Samba would have been the one for me, he has absolutely been one fo their outstanding performers and jesus £7/8m AND EVEN HIS WAGES would have been a drop in the ocean compared to what you would get out of him.

    Rotonda, I have seen Abied play a few times now including in France and I rate him highly, not sure why he hasn’t figured yet.

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  • LewSpi

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #36

    You know as much as I do Dannyo, guess we’ll have to wait for the Evening, or…wait for Ed to pull his bio out of his master fileafax.

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  • Toonboy_84

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #37

    Agreed about the fat cats upstairs Wes. A little investment would do wonders for us. We’re so close to being a good team.

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  • Klatoon

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #38

    Lewis Dunk’s a younger Williamson

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  • Scottishmag1

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #39

    Well if Obertans fit, there goes my fantasy formation and team out the window.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #40

    lewis dunk plays as a CD for brighton 21 years old

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