Alan Pardew Sees No Trouble With Ben Arfa Grumblings


Alan Pardew has promised Hatem Ben Arfa that he will get his chance to impress when Demba Ba and Cheik Tiote head to Africa.

Ben Arfa – scoring great goal at Bolton

Before the game yesterday at St. James’ Park against Manchester United there were various reports that  Ben Arfa  was not too happy that he was not starting  in the first team on Tyneside.

And we thought it was not a coincidence last night that Ben Arfa wasn’t even brought on as a substitute,  and  we also know that Alan Pardew is an expert in dealing with the different personalities  in his Newcastle United squad.

Alan  showed last night that he can be a master tactician,  and he simply out-coached legend Alex Ferguson, as the Newcastle side hustled and harried the Manchester United players into their second successive Premier League defeat.

With Demba  Ba and Cheick Tiote leaving for the African Cup of  Nations in the next day or so to join up with their team-mates on Saturday, there should be ample opportunities for the French International to show what he can do for Newcastle.

Alan Pardew sees nothing wrong with Ben Arfa grumbling a bit about his situation,  when the 24 year-old said yesterday that he didn’t share the same philosophy with his manager.

This is what Alan Pardew has said about Ben Arfa:

“I don’t think any player at any football club is going to say that their philosophy is the same as the manager,”

“I didn’t when I was working with Steve Coppell as a player at Crystal Palace, but I still admired him and understood what he is about and learned a great deal off him.”

“And as you grow as a player you learn that you can have a different kind of formula to win games.”

“We have played to Hatem’s formula a couple of times and we have done okay. When he plays in the side, we have to pass the ball more and play it in to him more.”

“He will get his opportunity to show what he can do.”

Ben Arfa is of course a huge favorite with the Newcastle fans , who like to see him playing in the side.

But Newcastle will now be pressed to score goals, now that Demba Ba is away for about five games.

We expect Shola Ameobi, Leon Best and Peter Lovenkrands to step up to the plate and can see Ben Arfa playing as the withdrawn striker to set up the chances for those two,  and score a few goals himself.

We don’t see the Ben Arfa situation as being serious at all, and any player worth their salt wants to play as much as possible.

Hatem Ben Arfa is no different.

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25 comments so far

  • ToonDownSouth

    Jan 5, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #1

    Fair play to Pardew. Brilliant response

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  • shearerno9

    Jan 5, 2012 at 11:31 PM

    Comment #2

    Id like to see a sneaky bid for both kranjcar and pienaar… throw in an offer of 12m combined and see what happens 😉

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  • Rosted Pork

    Jan 5, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    Comment #3

    “Newcastle United
    manager, has been monitoring Brighton &
    Hove Albion defender Lewis Dunk.”

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  • Niff in the USA

    Jan 5, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #4

    When you watch games like last night you wonder where ben can fit

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  • HamarMagpie

    Jan 5, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #5

    Pienaar? Why? He will certainly not improve our squad. Have watched him play for both Everton and Spurs and he’s been crap every time. Kranjcar might add something. But they are unable to get games at Spurs for a reason.

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  • shearerno9

    Jan 5, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #6

    well in fairness pienaar has been injured for a while now and kranjcar is never getting ahead of bale/vdv/modric/lennon who would walk into our team…

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  • alanrichie

    Jan 6, 2012 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #7

    I dont see why we cant play the exact same system but swap benny for Demba,

    Shola is strong in the air and can cushion the ball down and flick it on for HBA.

    Think this would be our best plan, however cant see an obvious replacement for Tiote unless Guthrie becomes fit.

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  • davis_toons

    Jan 6, 2012 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #8

    Play mostly at flank, the injury causes him alot. Lost of Confidence & Arrogant. Which money cant buy as he have it now..
    Mecs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZJSBfFZGRs&feature=related
    Young Hatem
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyITa2aZ_Ss&feature=related

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  • davis_toons

    Jan 6, 2012 at 12:51 AM

    Comment #9

    We should arrange a friendly with top three team of france leg. Its shld be a nice match and can bring alot to our players game.

    Ben arfa vs Bordeaux Finale
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQF1q1na_-s&feature=related

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  • mattyNUFC

    Jan 6, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    Comment #10

    shearer…

    i’ve been a huge fan of Niko for a very long time, but i think he’s lost it. the past few sub outings he’s had he’s been awful. think we could definitely do alot better now

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  • davis_toons

    Jan 6, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #11

    Niff in the USA // Jan 5, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Just watch the video & you will knw where he can fit in.
    (AMLRC/Forward)

    This guy just lost his confidence & arrogant after the stupid damn tackler while he was new trying to adpt to english football and his new club.

    People just to give him time start all over and hope that he can come back again.

    Score so many familiar style of goal while in other clubs and both.

    His game is always almost the Same. The kind of goals he score and the assist he created. Both goals he scored CAN be seen on other videos as well.

    The question is Will he be Back again? Thats really hard to say given that his age is different ald. No longer 18 & ald attain social status.

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  • davis_toons

    Jan 6, 2012 at 1:24 AM

    Comment #12

    AP knows the kind of player Hatem is…thats a great news and Hatem will have his chance to prove again.

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  • davis_toons

    Jan 6, 2012 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #13

    Obertan needs to learn more from Hatem on his game. Guti & Sami as well.

    Obertan have got great potential but just cant created & make the right movement. (got to do lots of thinking)
    Can improve more but sometimes some things just cant be improve.

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  • gonufc

    Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 AM

    Comment #14

    @shearerno9 (2) I would love to see Kranjcar come, not keen on Pienaar but 12m for those two is far more than necessary- Spurs only paid ~2m for Pienaar and don’t think they’d ask for more than 5m for Kranjcar.

    But I agree with others, he doesn’t seem as good as a few years ago and quite frankly, I’m sick of us buying top clubs’ rejects (Smith, Butt, Obertan, Simpson- obviously much better signing than the rest- Duff, Owen etc.). I would far, far prefer to look at younger players than the likes of those two.

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  • london_mag

    Jan 6, 2012 at 3:09 AM

    Comment #15

    I really am not sure about this. Yes, it was good that Pardew secured the game/ parked the bus etc. but I just do not understand how you can leave Ben Arfa out for so many games, so much of the time. Every sub that went passed I had my fingers crossed. And then Obertan came on the play upfront and I was just confused cos he has absoloutly no strike on him and no nowhere near the same flair.

    Weve all seen what ben arfa can do on form and I felt bringing him on in the 75th minute when we’re 2-0 up to Man u at home would have been perfect- Im sick of this “but he needs the gaps..” BOLLOCKS. He can bring out the sensational and was the option to go further with a 5-0.

    But no, Perch…. Best…..Obertan……. nothing spectacular was ever going to happen- at best secure the win which we did.

    I do realise im moaning after one of the best defeats in a while but I cant imagine how ben arfa feels- hes getting zero respect- why is this happening??

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  • london_mag

    Jan 6, 2012 at 3:13 AM

    Comment #16

    *best wins

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  • Doctapaul

    Jan 6, 2012 at 5:52 AM

    Comment #17

    I share some of the concerns cited. If Ben Arfa doesn’t play then he’ll be away sooner rather than later – and everyone associated with the club says he has “great and unique” talent.
    he needs games. he needs games. he needs games.
    How many games has Ben Arfa kicked off a game over an 18 month period? 4-5? I dont know.
    He will adjust to the pace and compactness of the PL – it took Colocinni a whole season’s worth of games to adjust. Looking back – Solano wasnt much kop until March or April. he took almost a whole season to adjust to PL.
    Putting Obertan on and telling him to chase the ball made sense for the lasr few mins against ManU. Putting Ben Arfa on – might have been seen as more of an insult. Benny seems to have a lot of personal pride about him. Some call it arrogance.
    Pride turns to arrorgance when you stop asking questions of yourself. If Benny is asking himself what he needs to do to get in the Newcastle side – he could even learn from Obertan. Not technically or even tactically but maybe attitudinally.
    there’s a rift between Pardew’s thinking and Benny’s – and whilst newcastle keep winning I dont see Pardew changing his style. which is a shame – because altho I want success – I also want to see stylish football the way Benny plays it.
    When Newcastle embrace benny’s way, they will give themselves more options. They will become more powerful.
    ps Liverpool have the same problem with Carroll, who ironicvally would have been ideally suited to Pardew’s more direct style.
    We will need to change against Blackbutn, because Samba is a towering force to be reckoned with.

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  • noodles

    Jan 6, 2012 at 6:14 AM

    Comment #18

    i’m french and a big fan of HBA. I am very disapointed because Pardew is not giving a chance to show what he is capable of:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_x_AQwPTTs

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  • radja in Indonesia

    Jan 6, 2012 at 7:01 AM

    Comment #19

    when Ba and Tiote leave for African Cup, it’s time for Mr. Pardew to play HBA, Abeid, Vuckic, Smith, and all the reserves. So in the summer transfer Mr Pard know who is still in the team, and who will leave

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  • Slank

    Jan 6, 2012 at 8:29 AM

    Comment #20

    Pardew’s tactics (of having two big men upfront) against ManU were spot on, having seen how theYak had destroyed their central defence in the previous game, and therefore there was no room for Ben Arfa.

    I have a feeling that Ben Arfa no longer fits into the team structure/model when Ba is playing. Ba is not a semi static centre forward playing off the last defender, like Best and Shola. He likes to move around alot often dropping back to support the midfield and sometimes the defence and as such he would be moving into areas that Ben Arfa would operate in.

    However, with Ba off to the Africans Nations Cup it gives an opportunity for Ben Arfa to play in ‘the hole’ and support the midfield especially as Tiote will be missing from the midfield.

    BTW, why can’t the Africans Nations Cup play at the same time as the European Nations tournamount?

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  • TheObertoon

    Jan 6, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #21
  • london_mag

    Jan 6, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #22

    Agreed obertoon I remember that at the end of the first half i was going “JEEZ!!”.
    I didnt say he had no flair I said not the same flair and he doesnt have a good strike from what Ive seen

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  • london_mag

    Jan 6, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #23

    It was great we won but people need to stop buying this CRAP about theres no room for Ben Afra. We need to play him more this really is LUDICROUS

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  • Oleg G

    Jan 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #24

    This is getting on my nerves. People are saying that they don’t see where HBA has a place in the squad. Are you serious?

    And now he will get a chance? Without Tiote and Ba? Great. With Shola and Perch?
    Why not let him play with the best?

    This year he only played against the strongest teams or when we were losing (or both). The only time when we were playing against a weaker team and weren’t losing, he scored and created a goal (Bolton).

    He should’ve played against Man U after we were leading 2-0. When we are loosing and trying to force a goal, it is much easier to close a player like HBA then in an open game when the other team is trying to score and pushing all their players forward.
    Ben Arfa, Best And Ba, this is how we should play when we want to score lots of goals.
    Tiote, Cabaye and a winger behind Ba and we should push from the middle with HBA as a free role between middle and side pushing the ball forward to the strikers.

    If we play him only when we lose, and our tactics are kicking long balls all the time and going from the wing, how can he do anything? And when he is our only good player on the pitch (of Tiote injured, Ba on the bench, Cabaye with yellow cards or whatever) then all the attention is on him and he cannot play freely.

    Just need to know how to use the guy.

    Also, when he is running forward, we don’t have players around him to recieve the ball so he has to try and pass 3-4 players which is most of the time a mission impossible and that is AP’s problem with his tactics all wrong when playing a player like HBA.

    In Spurs, Man U, Man C, Arsenal and Liverpool they would play him with a different tactic than AP does with him at our club. too bad.

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  • higha

    Jan 6, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #25

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