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Pardew Expects Blackburn To Attack Newcastle – Vuckic To Start?

10:20 pm, Friday, January 6th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 110 Comments

Tomorrow afternoon we entertain Blackburn Rovers at St. James’ Park in the 3rd round of the FA Cup, and after the heroics of Wednesday night, anything but a win will be a disappointment for Newcastle fans.

Haris Vuckic - gets another start tomorrow?

And it’s not like it will be an easy game against Blackburn tomorrow either, since they have nothing to lose, and they will no doubt go all out to get their second win against Newcastle in a Cup competition this season.

They beat us 4-3 after extra time back on 26th October in the Carling Cup at Ewood Park, but we are assuming Alan  Pardew will put out his strongest side tomorrow afternoon.

Of course we will now be without Demba Ba and Cheick Tiote until the home game against Wolves  on 26th February.

However, if either the Ivory  Coast or Senegal get knocked out of the African Cup of Nations before the final, the lads could return before that time – the final is on February 12th – and that’s one day after our previous game at Spurs on 11th February.

This is what manager Alan Pardew said about the game tomorrow afternoon:

“It’s a case of accepting it and showing people that it’s not all about those two,”  “It’s about the team and what else can come to the fore.”

“When we lost Andy Carroll last year, Peter Lovenkrands and Leon Best became two of our best players.”  “They haven’t featured much recently – Peter’s been injured so we are looking forward to seeing him back.”

“But one or two of the others will need to step up to the plate and we are looking forward to seeing them.”  “We’ve got a quick turnaround to Blackburn, and it’s my job to make sure we are right for that game,” 

“We have to be as fresh as we can be and make sure we are focused on the game, because Blackburn are going to make sure it’s not an easy game for us.”

“I expect them to come at us.” “A cup run brings momentum to a football club, and for us we want to continue our momentum so we want to win the game.”

We’re not sure what the team will be tomorrow, since Alan didn’t give anything away at his press conference yesterday afternoon, but we have to think young Haris Vuckic could start in midfield along with Yohan Cabaye,  if the Frenchman is fit.

Pardew had also mentioned giving Mehdi Abeid a chance in defensive midfield once Cheick Tiote left for Africa, so the 19 year-old Frenchman is another possibility, and we suppose 21 year-old Dan Gosling could also come in.

We’re assuming Danny Guthrie is still not fit.

Up front we expect either Leon Best or Ben Arfa to get the start with Shola Ameobi, who looked quite good on Wednesday night, and we’re not sure if  Peter Lovenkrands is fit again.

So this could be the side that starts tomorrow afternoon:

Krul
Simpson Coloccini Williamson Santon
Taylor (R) Vuckic  Cabaye Gutierrez
Best Ameobi (Sh)

There’s no doubt that a lot of fans will want Ben Arfa to  start tomorrow as the withdrawn striker, but we have a sneaking suspicion that Alan will start Best and Shola  Ameobi,  to have two big men up front like we had on Wednesday evening.

What’s your team for tomorrow?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Haris Vuckic · Hatem Ben Arfa · Leon Best · Newcastle News · Shola Ameobi



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110 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    Lets just hope that if Vukic starts that we try to play the ball through him and not over him, give him the ball and let the kid play

  • 2 fgb224lbs // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    Rhodes scored 5? Worth a punt surely?

  • 3 Matt Stoddz NUFC // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:28 PM

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  • 4 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    rumour were gonna go for benedikt howedes from schalke 04 as our new cb only 23 year old

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    Why not let this Abeid play and stick HBA on the wing,if HBA doesn’t feature heavily tomorrow I cant see how Pards has got a future for him pencilled in here.

  • 6 nufc1984 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    Oh dear. Bindippers in trouble again! Paul dickov just confirmed their midfielder Tom adeyemi was racially abused by a small section of fans at tonight’s game. Reduced the lad to tears. Scum bags. That’s what happens when u and your idiot players condone racism dogleash!!

  • 7 Rosted Pork // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:34 PM

    davybtoon

    would love that guy his tall n a beast but who much will v bid. surely not £5mill . he gona b expensive , but u neva know v r newcastle n v strike a good deal ;-) hope its true if v get him .

  • 8 JackButler // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    As a NUFC fan I’ve always had the greatest respect for Liverpool and their history as most fan would have, but this whole race issue has destroyed them in my eye’s.
    How can they back a man who has openly admitted using racial comments, saying that he’s innocent and that the FA have an agenda and then not appeal to the FA, UEFA or FIFA???

    And it now seems that the ignorance of the player, manager and board has spread to their fan’s.

    Disgrace

  • 9 Rosted Pork // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    *how

  • 10 boardman64 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    Howedes is fantastic, they wont let him go cheap though

  • 11 Jail for Ashley // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    Tonytoon
    John Barnes was already at Watford

  • 12 Rosted Pork // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    rooney not leaveng, i hope pardew comes out an says ba doesnt have any clause its jst a make up story

  • 13 nufc1984 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    The kid who was abused by Liverpool supporters was only 20. Hope they feel bad for what they’ve done. No human being deserves that.but when the club and manager condone it what do u expect? Hope the fa crack down on them and ban these ignorant morons for life. It’s 2012, surely racism should have been consigned to the history books by now!

  • 14 Tonytoon73 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:42 PM

    Jail – jason mcateer

  • 15 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    liverpool n there fans r a disgrace the

  • 16 JackButler // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-new-racism-row-Fan-arrested-on-suspicion-of-abusing-black-Oldham-player-Tom-Adeyemi-article849913.html

  • 17 Doilatoon // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    NUFC1984….if thats true that they racially abused again,then FA need to take å stand and punish them hard,i used 2 have some respect for l’pool but not anymore…i’m getting sick.

    And what about Jordan Rodhes…5 goals today

  • 18 Rosted Pork // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/ea-sports-ppi-club-ranking.html?paramSearchType=EA_SPORTS_CLUB&#EaClubRanking

  • 19 American Toon 13 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    I hope Ben Arfa gets the nod tomorrow just to see what he can do. He’s really only had one extended run in the side and that was awhile ago and he got a lot of criticism for trying to do to much and giving away the ball a lot. Looked good against Bolton so I would hope he gets his chance again.

  • 20 American Toon 13 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Yeah I was watching the Liverpool game and it certainly looked like that’s what happened. Adeyemi was walking away from the Kop just before a goal kick and heard something, turned around and walked back toward the Kop yelling angrily. It took several minutes for him to calm down and of course the Liverpool fans booed him every time he touched the ball afterwards. I guess it’s a bad thing to get upset about things like that.

  • 21 nufc1984 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    That mirror article if true proves that by wearing those t shirts they have made out that racism is acceptBle. The two fans that racially Abused that poor kid were wearing support Suarez t-shirts. The fans follow the clubs lead. Well done Liverpool, u may hVe just dragged football back 30 years!!!

  • 22 Rosted Pork // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/ea-sports-ppi-team-of-the-week.html#EaTOW

    we have krul n ba in team.of the week

  • 23 Tonytoon73 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    Was it not the scouse arseholes that got english teams banned from europe. I say no more f@cking tossers.

  • 24 Fee1 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    Jordan Rhodes is worth more than a punt imo, also i hear that ba has a clause in contract if we are relegated only.

  • 25 Jail for Ashley // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    TT73
    He’s not a striker and he wasn’t even good

  • 26 Rosted Pork // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    liverfools will always b hated. n my frnd who.is a liverfool fan is a scum.to i hate him to.

  • 27 europe4toon // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    he was terrible against liverpool but think he can trouble blackburn if we give him the ball to his feet and not his head

  • 28 nufc1984 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    American toon – i think he should make a big thing of it. Let everyone know there are racists in football grounds. Would you walk away if someone shouted vile abuse at u in the street for being a different race? I think it takes bravery for a 20 yr old to make a stand in front of a section of sick thugs.

  • 29 nufc90 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:59 PM

    James Isaac @isaacJLJ

    Close

    Hearing some very interesting news coming out of Holland re: #nufc transfer targets.

    from twitter…. opens a can of worms lol

  • 30 nufc1984 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:59 PM

    Rosted pork- if that’s how u talk about your friend i’d hate to b ur enemy! :-)

  • 31 American Toon 13 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    @nufc1984: Yeah, sorry mate, I was being sarcastic. He should def make a big deal.

  • 32 nufc1984 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:06 PM

    Damn american toon! It’s too late for sarcasm!:-) it doesn’t register when your tired after a long days work!:-)

  • 33 Rosted Pork // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:06 PM

    lol i hate him coz he says liverfool r biger club than.newcastle :-)

  • 34 nufc1984 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:07 PM

    Quality add on to the Rooney – demba ba chant from twitter.
    When Demba Ba is not enough, and Colleen is feeling naughty, she lies back and shuts her eyes and thinks of Cheick Tiote!!!

  • 35 Super Simmo Strikes Again // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:11 PM

    “Eyewitnesses saw two fans wearing Luis Suarez t-shirts, and heard one of them clearly shout “You f***ing black b*****d.””

    Luis Suarez. Role Model of the year then i presume?

    What a bunch of crap, the liverpoo faithful are.

  • 36 Beattie25 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    Disgusting news coming out of anfield. Guaranteed all the fa will do is fine them about 5 grand and the scousers will ban the fans in question. Tougher sanctions should be imposed and in the wake of Suarez an example should be made and Liverpool should be kicked out of the FA cup.

    In other news something that had passed me by and is very interesting Yannik Djalo (Portugese international) is a free agent.

    He fits the bill perfectly for what we need and what our transfer policy dictates. He is young, free, would have reasonable wages but most importantly he is a small, pacey striker that has an eye for goal.

    According to the news on google Porto may be after him but I think we could entice him to the premiership, and he wouldn’t cost anything other than a signing on fee and his wages!

  • 37 Brutooon // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:18 PM

    1) Just thinking outside the box. How about playing Ryan Taylor as a defensive midfield? Protecting the back four and he can distribute the ball well. Obertan stay at Right Midfield

    2) I don’t mind Best and Ameobi up front. HBA keep as impact sub

    3) Abeid and Vuckic will play a part as sub

  • 38 nufc1984 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:22 PM

    Demba ba has been stopped at newcastle airport and charged with human trafficking. He forgot to take Ferdinand and jones out of his pocket :-)

  • 39 Beattie25 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Who thinks we should start a petition to get Liverpool kicked out of the FA cup? As a fan of modern day football fan and a proud supporter of Newcastle United it angers me to see racism not only in the stands but on the field as well!

    There is no place for it in society, no place for it in the game that I love and no punishment should be too small.

    The FA have more or less allowed this too happen and a fine and a ban is not going to deter this sick act. I am furios by the disgusting support offered to Suarez by his team and I see it as an acceptance of this most basic of ignorance.

    Why should we sit idly by and not voice our opinions on the matter. We as fans should start a petition and invite the other football clubs and fans yaking part in the cup, via thier online fan sites and blogs to join our anti-racism fan movement!

    Whose with me?

  • 40 Toon Tang // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:32 PM

    start the revolution beattie lad . dr king would be proud

    if there were enough heads involved they would have to do something eh

  • 41 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    didnt know yannick djalo is a free agent n on trial at villa

  • 42 JTOONJ // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    Danny simpson signed new contract :)
    http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Newcastle-Danny-Simpson-agrees-new-four-and-a-half-year-contract-worth-5million-article849844.html

  • 43 europe4toon // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:38 PM

    stfu beattie you black bum ha jokes but you sound like a baby crying over spilt milk

  • 44 tom tomb // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:40 PM

    Rosted Pork. I bought a 2 kilo shoulder of Pork from the butchers today. What’s the best way to cook it and for how long?

  • 45 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    great news with simpson jus need colo, guthrie, rtaylor n best to sign new deals now oh n tavernier

  • 46 Beattie25 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    @ europe4toon

    I’m not a baby crying over spilt milk. I’m a white male, 27 years old and am proud to have cheered white, black, asian, african, french, periuvian, north, south and every denomination that has represented our fine club. And for you to say ‘you black bum’ shows the inccredible lack of dignity and utter stupidity in football today.

    It’s gone too far. In the 80’s we saw banana throwing, in the 90’s we heard monkey chants and in the current era we see utter disgraces like Liverpool.

    The press is alight at the moment with worries about racism in Euro 2012 due to the poor record of Poland and Ukraine, maybe we should look a little closer too home.

    As for you eurrope4toon you don’t ever deserve to wear the black and white shirt and call yourself a supporter.

  • 47 Beattie25 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    @ davybtoon

    Apparently Villa cancelled his trail because (and I quote McLiesh)

    I don`t think he is coming on trial now. I wasn`t sure it was an absolute priority for us.”

    Watch this if you are unfamiliar with Yannick Djalo:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgnAxdYTeQ

  • 48 Fee1 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    LETS not have a rant over this tbh the FA will do f all as they have done already other than a ban so there is no point arguing

  • 49 ronaldeano // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    So, Natasha Giggs has entered Big Brother. Makes a change… Usually, Big Brother enters her.

  • 50 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:54 PM

    we were in for djalo jus last season we shud go for him on free

  • 51 tdt // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM

    After reading earlier today what Pardew said about the Stevenage cup game last year, am I the only person who thinks he may rest some of the players who played on Wednesday? That’s what I read into his comments about learning a lesson last year.

  • 52 Fee1 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    fantastic

  • 53 JTOONJ // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    Right lads see you at the match tomorrow. Night.

  • 54 Fee1 // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    Andy carol is just like easy jet, not to bad until you experience BA .

  • 55 2_goal_tino // Jan 6, 2012 at 11:59 PM

    You can’t ban a team for the actions of two people. If the issue is persistent it is a different matter and something needs to be done but in this case it seems to be a very few, however deplorable, and during a cup match so more than likely are non-regulars. Every club has idiots, last year three lads tried to start the chant “just a town full of p*kis” at Blackburn. I was standing next to some toon Asian guys, who looked less than comfortable. If we were punished for the actions of these three, who were swiftly told to shut up by those around them, I’d be pretty annoyed. If they were arrested they either did it in front of a steward or their own fans told the stewards because they found it unacceptable. Racism exists but tarring a huge number of innocent people who are equally repulsed by it is not the right approach! What should happen is that every supporter who hears such things should inform the authorities- then get lifetime bans!

  • 56 nufc90 // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:07 AM

    apparently we’re in for an attacking midfielder based in holland. no idea who but this could be bad for ben arfa

  • 57 Scottishtoon95 // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    JTOONJ
    sh1t that means we’re left with £3m for transfers. lol

  • 58 Beattie25 // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:11 AM

    @ 2 goal tino

    Whilst I agree with your statement and I understand that the actions of 1 or 2 people should not represent an entire club I must say that the sentence must fit the crime.

    Clubs have been banned for fielding inelligble players, for throwning missles and crowd violence so why not racism? Clubs are docked points and relegated for match fixing, financial difficuilties and breaking FA rules so why not racism?

    If it was just 1 or 2 people then yes, but when the team, players and their star man are seen to escape proper justice an example must be set in an effort to rid this from footbal. I agree that it will never truly die but how would these thugs, once investigated and charged feel if they were also responsible for the expulsion of their club from the competition? How would this statement resonate to other fans in other football stadiums? It is one thing to penailse individuals but another to show the World that the home of football will not tolerate.

  • 59 Beattie25 // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:16 AM

    I think James Issac is full of poop.

    I doubt that Newcastle United would sign an attacking misfielder given that we have Benny, Vuckic & Gosling.

    Ashley is mad, but surely he isn’t that daft!!

  • 60 Jail for Ashley // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:19 AM

    Thats what cost us the game against Stevenage,everyone was scared to get stuck in in case they missed the mackem game,should of definitely rested a few last year,has to be a full team this year though.

  • 61 nufc90 // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:19 AM

    yeah beattie i have no idea how reliable he is just see he is followed by mark douglas and neil farrington so maybe there’s some truth.

    just see redknapp on skysports can’t stand him.. what’s the odds on him talking about the rooney story on ssn tomorrow

  • 62 Beattie25 // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:25 AM

    If it is someone from Holland I reckon someone like Jermain Lens (PSV) or Miralem Sulejmani (Ajax) a pacey striker who is often confused with an attacking midfielder.

  • 63 2_goal_tino // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    I agree with you if it is endemic throughout an organisation severe sanctions need to be taken. However, I’m not sure the recent events are an example of that. Liverpool’s reaction has been grossly ill-conceived from those at the top, KD more than anyone. But I don’t think you can say it is a result of a hatred/fear/ignorance of other races/religions/creeds but instead a result of a desperate attempt by the club to retain the services of their best player. Now I know it is equally abhorrent for a club to do this given it’s prominent role in society, as it seems to de-prioritze racism and in some way condone it. It is for this reason that Liverpool have lost so much respect from all quarters over their actions. However, in my opinion you can not say that the actions the club have taken are, in themselves, inherently racist. To take such drastic action as you are suggesting against a whole club means that racism must be prevalent at every level – do you think the players wore those shirts because they are racist themselves or because they were told they had to? My opinion is that it was the latter, and if any player did object on a personal level, they felt uncomfortable not to go along with it due to pressure from the ‘team.’

    I don’t want you to think I am condoning what they’ve done as a club, because it is incredibly disturbing that they in their position have taken this route, but I believe that for your suggestion to be implemented they must have been motivated by racist inclinations.

  • 64 gonufc // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    Evenin all. I’m not too angry about the Redknapp stuff as it seems he was just asked a question and answered it honestly- what manager wouldn’t say that right now?

    Also- “europe4toon” – I’m seriously hoping you’re a WUM…

  • 65 Snubs // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    To all those people calling Harry Redknapp a scum for talking about Ba’s release clause, WATCH THE INTERVIEW FIRST!
    The interviewer asked Harry about if he was looking into the release clause, other than that Harry just had praise for Ba!!! He did not say he is looking to trigger it.

  • 66 alip123 // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:55 AM

    Disgusted by the treatment of Adeyemi. Only 20, playing one of the biggest matches of his life and then to be racially abused like that… That Liverpool fan should be named and shamed. At least a fellow fan told the police about it, and good to see Gerrard and the ref calming him down.
    Not what Liverfool wanted was it!

  • 67 davybtoon // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:56 AM

    This demba ba thing makes me laugh not one mention of a release clause in nearly 6month now all of sudden ppl seem to kno what the exact amount is of it lol, some ppl r ryt tools personally don’t see Ashly putting something like that in someone’s contract sounds like agents hav to do what we want to get a player here not what they want that’s why we hav n will lose out on players bcoz ma n dl play hardball on transfers

  • 68 Beattie25 // Jan 7, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    @ 2 goal tino

    I totally agree with you assessment and I am in no way saying that all the Liverpool players are indeed racist, neither was the show of support they were obviously forced into. I am saying the individuals responsible should be punished (Suarez banned and fined) and the club as a whole should be punished for its continued defense of Suarez and this latest disgrace.

    I just wish the FA could have been stricter. Firstly when the t-shirs were worn they shoud have given a warning and then the FA should have challenged the Liverpool statement or released a counter statement. Now the fans are making 20 year old kids, playing the biggest match of their lives cry on live television. You don’t see Sunderland fans wearing Bramble t-shirts!!

    I just wonder what will have to happen before a stricter approach is taken to the problem of racism. It takes 1 person to commit the act and it should take 1 example to deter future acts of a similar type.

    If Liverpool had more than 1 black player do you think they would have worn those t-shirts? Did Chelsea? Did Drogba wear a John Terry T-shirt? What will happen if Terry is convicted??? He will be made an example of because heis English which in itself is racism.

    Swings and round abouts.

    Ha ha, but I totally agree with you.

  • 69 soundoid // Jan 7, 2012 at 1:23 AM

    Black and White United.

    That’s our shirt,

    Need i say more.

  • 70 GAZ09 // Jan 7, 2012 at 1:27 AM

    Pretty good chance of Ba leaving, release clause is 10mill

  • 71 Southern Pride // Jan 7, 2012 at 1:42 AM

    so no links tonight i’m guessing.. but itz strange how therez no UK TV and Overseas TV and the club websites are not streaming the game but therez highlights later on…

  • 72 soundoid // Jan 7, 2012 at 1:55 AM

    Didn’t we get rid of this rasist bullshit from football in the 90’s…

    It would seem not. One of my best memories of living in Newcastle was being in a band and playing at an anti racism gig at the riverside, an event supported by the Black and White United campaign.

    We as faithful supporters of NUFC need to dust off this slogan once again because it would seem that complacency is the enemy. We lead the way in the 90’s.

    And as the finest supporters of Football in the land need to once again.

    HWTL Black and White United!!!!!

  • 73 DarloGeordie // Jan 7, 2012 at 1:56 AM

    DailyMail saying that Demba Ba has a 10 million release clause in his contract which isn’t good for us:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2083369/Demba-Ba-leave-Newcastle-bargain-10m-fee-thanks-release-clause.html

  • 74 DarloGeordie // Jan 7, 2012 at 1:58 AM

    Beat me too it Gaz

  • 75 GeordieToon89 // Jan 7, 2012 at 2:00 AM

    Where getting luuk de jong, you heard it here firstMclaren must sell to buy.. Want Rhodes to sign he looks faffin immense

  • 76 nickfish90 // Jan 7, 2012 at 2:18 AM

    Alot of mentioned it, but just to say it again. RHODES bagged 5 GOALS tonight. 27 this season.

    http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/12/01/06/manual_183057.html&BID=165

    Cheeky bid Mike? One for the future?

  • 77 geordiegav1987 // Jan 7, 2012 at 2:26 AM

    if we lose ba after less than a season after loseing carrol last season then there is something seriously wrong. we need to get a new contract drawn up asap so that this legend in the makeing doesn’t leave us. without him we wouldn’t be where we are this season, and if he leaves for 10m I for one will be pissed right off because there’s no way we’ll replace him until next season. there’s no way we’ll replace him with anyone of the same calibre, the only person close to him in the premiere league is van persie and we all know how much players like ba and rvp cost and we all know how much of a tight fisted c#nt mike ashley is.
    he’d bring in another striker on a free or close to and hope he came good like ba- but I’m sorry like , ba is a rare example of a free transfer comeing good.
    this whole fu##ing thing has left me in a foul mood when I’ve been on cloud nine since wednesday night – but once again us toon fans come tumbleing back down to earth with a thud and a kick in the nurse.
    F#CK SAKES:(

  • 78 geordiegav1987 // Jan 7, 2012 at 2:29 AM

    nuts not nurse this predictive text is a bitch

  • 79 gonufc // Jan 7, 2012 at 2:31 AM

    I don’t think it’s Terry being English (which wouldn’t really be racist even if it is prejudicial treatment) which makes the F.A. potentially make an example of him but because he is high profile and a supposed international captain- this is also a literally prejudiced decision though.

    I’m no fan of Terry and feel he should absolutely be punished for it but this “make an example of him” stuff is extremely unsavoury. There should never be a sense of “he only got that punishment because of who he is” either lightly or harshly which merely makes others to expect a different punishment in the future.

  • 80 geordiegav1987 // Jan 7, 2012 at 2:41 AM

    if we lose ba after less than a season after loseing carrol last season then there is something seriously wrong. we need to get a new contract drawn up asap so that this legend in the makeing doesn’t leave us. without him we wouldn’t be where we are this season, and if he leaves for 10m I for one will be pissed right off because there’s no way we’ll replace him until next season. there’s no way we’ll replace him with anyone of the same calibre, the only person close to him in the premiere league is van persie and we all know how much players like ba and rvp cost and we all know how much of a tight fisted c#nt mike ashley is.
    he’d bring in another striker on a free or close to and hope he came good like ba- but I’m sorry like , ba is a rare example of a free transfer comeing good.
    this whole fu##ing thing has left me in a foul mood when I’ve been on cloud nine since wednesday night – but once again us toon fans come tumbleing back down to earth with a thud and a kick in the nuts.
    F#CK SAKES:(

  • 81 soundoid // Jan 7, 2012 at 2:54 AM

    Help me out with the #BlackandWhiteUnited on twitter lets lead the way again hey!

  • 82 soundoid // Jan 7, 2012 at 4:05 AM

    Hey Ed do an article on our anti racist past..

    Black and white United lest we forget.

  • 83 Sav // Jan 7, 2012 at 4:24 AM

    You only allow a release clause when the club doesn’t really have faith that the player is going to do great. It implies there’s no-one more surprised at Ba’s success in replacing Andy Carroll than Mashley and Mutley.

  • 84 soundoid // Jan 7, 2012 at 4:26 AM

    The #Best fans #Ba none lets stamp it out #BlackandWhiteUnited.

    I’m not a Geordie but i went to Uni in Newcastle.
    Proud to be a YTS Geordie, the Black and white united campaign made me a fan, Please chaps lets rise above the game and show everyone what this club is,.We all bleed black and white. HWTL.

  • 85 Super Simmo Strikes Again // Jan 7, 2012 at 5:19 AM

    Look, all we need to do is ensure that all the Strawberry Syrup is located in Newcastle.

    Ba would NEVER leave us then.

  • 86 ToonMauritius // Jan 7, 2012 at 7:34 AM

    Hi lads, Better for AP to do his shopping in Holland, there are loads of talent there, look at this http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Youngsters-rule-Dutch-football-IMS-special-report/13548/

  • 87 FloridaToon // Jan 7, 2012 at 7:39 AM

    Daily Mail reporting release clause is 10 mil.

  • 88 Dannyo // Jan 7, 2012 at 7:48 AM

    @toonMauritius
    Good article that mate, made me drool and now the January window is even more nerve wrecking, lol ;)

  • 89 Ponderous Pardew // Jan 7, 2012 at 7:52 AM

    We’re safe for this window, but if this release clause is true, we need to get a new contract drawn up. Give Ba a small incentive to sign (about a 10k rise), then completely remove the release clause or, if he insists on such a thing, make it something in keeping with his true value, say 35-40m.

    Needs to be done.

  • 90 Dannyo // Jan 7, 2012 at 7:55 AM

    @Ponderous Pardew
    Could be that’s what we’ll do. Think about it, Simmos contract negotiations was supposed to delay until the summer, then we got Virgin in as sponsor, giving us a 2 year contract for £10 mill a year.
    Simmo has supposedly signed a contract now, could be that’s what happens with Collo and possibly Ba if the clause is true.
    We’ll see :)

  • 91 ToonMauritius // Jan 7, 2012 at 7:56 AM

    Danny – I’m only worry for BA & TIOTE our main Assets

  • 92 Dannyo // Jan 7, 2012 at 8:00 AM

    @Toon
    They’re safe this window imo, thanks to ACN and the fact that we now have a positive turnover with the new Virgin deal.
    We don’t need to sell, not this window atleast.

  • 93 ToonMauritius // Jan 7, 2012 at 8:05 AM

    @ Dannyo – Let’s hope so, I still can’t forget the AC saga

  • 94 cyprus // Jan 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM

    Ed’s previous post is a real concern, frankly. Ba could walk in any top 4 team and getting a starting place and a couple hundred a week. Tottenham have been doing this to us for longer than most of you can remember: Waddle, Ferdinand, Ginola, Gazza etc. Don’t want to think about it :(

  • 95 cyprus // Jan 7, 2012 at 8:09 AM

    sorry ‘get’, not ‘getting’

  • 96 Dannyo // Jan 7, 2012 at 8:10 AM

    @toonMauritius
    Aye mate, don’t think anyone will forget that for a while, altho it’s only speculations for me, i have a feeling we won’t lose anyone of significance, atleast this window.
    We’re able to flex financial muscle now, and Tiote and Ba are very happy at nufc, according to themselfes and journous.

  • 97 ToonMauritius // Jan 7, 2012 at 8:13 AM

    @ Dannyo – they may be tempted for better salary

  • 98 bills-son // Jan 7, 2012 at 8:29 AM

    If the £10M Ba release clause is correct I bet Ashley and Llambias are kicking themselves – another lesson learnt.

    Ba and his agent are obviously smart cookies. Ba knows he is class and after his Stoke move fell through – £9M remember the fee agreed – he got a free transfer release clause if West Ham got relegated. Only us and Everton were seriously interested and we got him for just £40K a week – however in return for accepting just £40K Ba has negotiated a release clause of £10M.

    I go back to it, Ba knows he is class and he has very cleverly put himself in the driving seat. If there are no other clauses other than a club offering £10M we will have to offer him BIG money to stay. Simple as.

    Nobody, no fan, no manager, expected Ba to score 15 by the first week of January. Newcastle did a great deal to get him but Ba has done a great bit of business himself.

    It’s all down now to how much we will pay him, who comes in and whether he wants to stay. Obe thing is for certain – if the release clause of £10M is true – bids will DEFINITELY come in.

    Fans who try to say it is the FGB cashing in are way off the mark. I bet Ashley is kicking himself.

  • 99 cyprus // Jan 7, 2012 at 8:29 AM

    Ed,
    Just wondering: Is there a way for you to reverse the way comments appear so one doesn’t have to scroll down to the bottom of the page every time ‘refresh’ is hit? i.e. latest entry at the top? Also, have trouble contributing entries via mobile phone. Thanks!

  • 100 cyprus // Jan 7, 2012 at 8:34 AM

    bills-son,
    I think management could do something pro-active fast. e.g. renegotiate his contract, double his salary NOW, and slap a 50 mil release clause on his new 5-year contract. To be honest, everyone wins that way…

  • 101 cyprus // Jan 7, 2012 at 8:50 AM

    Cabaye, Tiote are brilliant but can be replaced, with difficulty. Ba cannot be replaced. It’s like V Persie for gunners. Not even Rooney, Berbatov, etc. have what he has. Abundant skill, physique to terrorise any sized defender (ask Ferdinand), can head, shoot, take free kicks, positioning sense, score out of nothing. Don’t know if I’ve ever seen a better no.9 at NU and we’ve had some decent ones!

  • 102 bills-son // Jan 7, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    cyprus – I agree, but we don’t know what Ba’s thinking is or whether we have already tried to negotiate with him.

    I know the agent of a top Toon player and I can tell you that most players – and especially the top class ambitious ones – want to be winning titles and trophies and playing in the CL. That isn’t just players at NUFC,. Other than City, Man U and possibly Chelsea no other team is safe from having a players head turned if one of the elite top teams here or Real Madrid or Barca come in. Loyalty goes out of the window when one of these teams offer you £80K-£150K+ a week.

    If Ba – or any player – wants to play for one of those teams and gets the opportunity they will tell the club they want to go. Simple as.

    If that is what Ba wants he won’t sign a new deal until he sees who comes in. Thats the way it goes.

    If it is a Spurs or Liverpool rather than Man U or City thats where the Toon and especially Ba have the big decision. If the £10M release clause is true it is Ba’s decision and I reckon alot of it will come down to money. Ba could still crock at anytime and earning as much as he can as quick as he can is even more important to him than other players. A £10M release clause means he can negotiate a big signing on fee and big wages because the buying club has got him cheap – he has to be worth at least £20M even with his dodgy leg.

    I would hope – desperately hope – that if an elite club doesn’t come in he will get his wage rise and stay with us. We will learn alot about Ba and Ashley as this pans out.

  • 103 Jail for Ashley // Jan 7, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Bills-son,
    Agreed.Very clever move by Demba and his people,if this is true they have to offer him a serious pay rise,or maybe MA will just see it as a 10M profit after only 1 season,Easy money.

  • 104 jimmymagpie // Jan 7, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    If this is tue about Ba, it illustrates what I have been goung on about for months, that the admin at this club is a shambles, but what do you expect when negotiations are carried out by people with no knowledge of football or how it operates, and by remote control from London. If true, you need look no further than Ba’s own people for leaking this, either looking to move their man on in the summer,or, holding us to ransom for a big wage increase or lump sum to remove the clause. Whatever, the sooner this regime sell up, and they are replaced with people who know what they are doing and have the club’s interests at heart.

  • 105 Troleibusiukas_LTU // Jan 7, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    HBA must play today. Would be interesting to see this formation.

    ————————-Krul————————-

    Simps———-Mike——Fab———–Davide

    —–R.Taylor——–Perch*—–Cabaye——-

    ———————Ben Arfa——————-

    ————–Vukcic——–Obertan———-

    * Ahbeid; Gosling

    or

    ————–R.Taylor———Perch——-

    ————–Ben Arfa——Cabaye——-

    ————–Vukcic———-Best———-

    or

    —————-R.Taylor—–Cabaye————

    ———————-Ben Arfa——————-

    ———-Vukcic——-Best——–Obertan—-

    or

    ———————Perch*——————

    —–R.Taylor^—Ben Arfa—-Cabaye

    ————–Best——–Obertan———-

    *Ahbeid
    ^Vukcic, Gosling,

  • 106 jimmymagpie // Jan 7, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Don’t forget who Ashley supports, and is very close to Redknapp Jnr and his wife Louise. I wouldn’t put it past him!

  • 107 bills-son // Jan 7, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    Jail – I am certain Ashley won’t see this as an ‘easy profit’ because he will not want to sell.

    You and I disagree totally about Ashley – you and others think he rubs his hands with glee whenever the chance to sell at a profit comes along. If that was really true he would be telling agents to tout our players around to the highest bidder. I can tell you straight from my agents mates mouth that is NOT happening. The opposite is happening – we are looking to buy not sell.

    You and other fans are still looking at Ashley through ‘Keegan saga’ hatred filled eyes. The Ashley of then – who wanted to sell the club – is totally different to the Ashley of the past two and half seasons – who wants to keep and build the club. Ashley was also clueless about running a football club when he first came in. He listened to the so called ‘experts’ (Wise included) and got stuffed. He’s learnt fasst – just look at how smart we’ve been in the transfer market since Ashley dicytated the policy.

    The ‘new’ Ashley has only cashed in on ONE player – Carroll. But even then he turned down an offer of £30M from LPool on the last day – why? – because he DIDN’T want to sell him !! If LPool hadnt come back with £35M in cash (a stupid offer that couldn’t be turned down) Carroll would not have been sold. Who got that deal right – Ashley or LPool? The whole football world knows the answer to that one !!

    And yet … fans STILL quote the Carroll deal to justify calling Ashley a FGB who sells at the drop of a hat – its absolute rubbish and totally untrue.

    Enrique wanted to go – he wasn’t touted around and sold. Barton was booted out and Nolan wanted a 5 year £60K a week deal and he wasn’t worth it. No FGB selling strategy at all.

    The big lesson Ashley and Pardew learnt from the Carroll saga was NOT to say a player will never be sold. Nobody ever thought any club would pay £35M in cash for a ‘head the ball’ striker with less than 20 Prem games under his belt. So now the club line is ‘we won’t sell unless stupid offers come in’. And stupid means way more than the player is worth. The clubs scouting skills means they are always confident of bringing in players as good as or better than the ones they might have to sell.

    The fact that we can buy gems like Tiote, Cabaye, and HBA for less than £5M each, and Williamson and Simpson for less than £1M each and get Ba on a free is not evidence that MA is a tight fisted FGB but that we are sh%t hot in the transfer market. It also leaves us with plenty of spare dosh to pay the players we want to keep big money on new contracts. Fans forget that simple bit of financial common sense.

    However, nobody can get it right all of the time, and Ba seems to have pulled off a masterstroke. To say that MA will be rubbing his hands in glee is ridiculous. If that was the case he would be touting Ba around and I know for a fact that isn’t true. Not one top Toon player is being touted around. Fact.

    I’ve said it umpteen times. Ashley is the best owner this club has had in my 50 years as a fan. The best by a mile. He is the only one who has a plan and the single minded determination to see it through. Ashley will make us a proper top 6 club from top to bottom not the fly by the seat of our ar$e loaded with debt club that we were under Fat Freddy.

  • 108 jakesome // Jan 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    @6 nufc1984 // Jan 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM
    Good point mate
    i was thinking he should of been punished by the club, if i was racist at work id be getting the sack. doesnt send out a good message, especially when their fans find it hard to think by themselves anyway

  • 109 toonincheek // Jan 7, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    bills-son,
    Agree with pretty much everything you say, except Ba. What masterstroke? He hasn’t taken us for a ride.

    KK himself negotiated some good clauses in his contracts (as a player) to make sure he was in control of his future.

    I’m sure we were covering our options well in case he got injured.

    Ba always said he had confidence in his knee, and himself – why should he not have negotiated a lowish release clause rather than being stuck with us, on low wages and injury provisos, when he performs the way he has done?

  • 110 BeastNUFC84 // Jan 7, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    wish people would get this like but shola ameobi is crap full stop he has a touch like a brick wall how he got a new 3 year contract i dont know and theres idiots at the newcastle home games give obertan abuse n the poor lads only played 20 games or summit n that big idiot has had 12 year or what ever n he is still shite




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