We don’t know if the report is true, but it was almost inevitable that some paper would soon write a report that Liverpool are interested in Newcastle striker Demba Ba.
Demba Ba – in action against Manchester United
The news since Friday is that Demba Ba has a £10M release clause in his Newcastle contract, and that could cause some clubs to come right in now, and bid that amount so they could secure Ba in January.
If the clubs wait too long then the news is that Newcastle will renegotiate the three year contract Ba signed last June and take that clause out, if that’s possible, or increase the amount so he becomes more expensive.
Even though Liverpool paid out around £60M in total for Andy Carroll from Newcastle and Louis Suarez from Ajax last January, they are still short of proven goalscorers, and this news regarding Liverpool’s interest in Ba is in the Daily Star.
Liverpool’s lack of goal-scoring capability has been made worse by the 8 game suspension of Suarez, for racially abusing Patrice Evra during the Liverpool game against Manchester United.
Liverpool have said their player is innocent of all charges and that there is no real evidence against the Uruguayan International, but we notice they are mot appealing the decision – and those two things don’t jibe.
The top clubs in England – read that as those six clubs above 7th placed Newcastle in the league table, the two Manchester clubs, plus Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea have all been alerted to the situation.
If Liverpool did get Demba Ba then it would say that they have almost given up on Geordie boy Andy Carroll, and it would be hard to get their money back on the player.
But maybe if Liverpool negotiate a deal with Newcastle then Andy Carroll could come the other way, but that’s highly unlikely.
A Newcastle source told the Daily Star Sunday:
“We’ve spoken to the player and his agent and there is every indication that he is happy here and wants to stay.
“He got married the day before he joined us and his family are happy on Tyneside.’’
We have to hope that Newcastle are moving with lightning speed and renegotiating the Senegal striker’s contract to keep the wolves at bay, so to speak, although Mick McCarthy couldn’t afford Ba.
It would be hard to take for Newcastle fans, if the club lost both Tiote and Ba in January, who are both off at the African Cup of Nations until almost mid-February.
But that’s just not going to happen.
Surely it isn’t?
Comments welcome.
59 comments so far
TemuriKetsbaia
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:46 AM
Comment #1Ha! Liverpool want to sign a black player?
Good luck.
Dannyo
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Comment #2When does Liverpool NOT want one of our players?
Super Simmo Strikes Again
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:51 AM
Comment #3@Dannyo.
I would not be surprised if we could con Liverpoo to take Smith for 10mill. Seems like their whole target list, is just a copy of Newcastle’s list of players.
Klatoon
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:51 AM
Comment #4“…he’s family is happy on Tyneside..” good words,now give him an improved contract already!
Off-topic but Niafron’s Red star got mauled by Marseille,sad but looks like they put up a good fight,didnt concede until the 42nd minute…and to make it worse,HBA’s “replacement” Andre Ayew netted two when he should of already left for pre- ACN training camp 🙁
darko
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Comment #5I f**king hate Liverpool. Anyway it’s just a matter of time before ‘King Kenny’ gets the buying of players removed from his remit. Des Hamilton anyone???
seantoon
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Comment #6Knew it wouldn’t be long before them scruffy b******s came sniffing like vermin
magicbus
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Comment #7Piss off you bunch of bindippers
jimiley
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Comment #8Why would Liverpool be interested in Ba? Ba to Liverpool and Carroll to the Toon anybody?
Super Simmo Strikes Again
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Comment #9Suarez and any african american striker.
Yup Seems like a legit strike force.
richard
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Comment #10dont think he would pass a medical anywhere. he will stop here.
Super Simmo Strikes Again
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Comment #11@Jimiley.
No. No. No.
Dannyo
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Comment #12@SuperSimmo
If he had a good run of 5 games, then he’d instantly be worth £10 mill for Liverpool 😛
And we could throw in Perch and Loven just to be nice aswell.
Super Simmo Strikes Again
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:59 AM
Comment #13If he bagged 1-2 goals, we could possibly squeeze out an extra 5mill for him.
seantoon
Jan 8, 2012 at 9:59 AM
Comment #14Why would Liverpool swap Carroll for him when they could just pay the 10million and get him rather than lose 25million on Carroll!
Dannyo
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Comment #15@SuperSimmo
That’s my thinking aswell.
spitfire_
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Comment #16Well… Carrot is 35 mill so Demba must be at least 76.5 mill but lets rounded to 100 mill. Deal or no deal?
Dannyo
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Comment #17I don’t want Carroll back, Ba clearly has a much bigger arsenal of ways to score goals on him, Carroll is much to slugish to score anything of the kind.
Never in a million days would a trade Ba for Carroll.
jimiley
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Comment #18We got Ba on a free. I bet hes on about 15k a week. Liverpool offer 100k a week. Fat man pocket more millions. What to do Bemba? If a firm offer comes in he is gone. NUFC = feeder club. But it would be nice to keep a star player for more than 6 months!!!!!
Graeme
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Comment #19The Toon “B” team strike again!!
Bindippers United should be wary doing business with FCB as he seems to have the ability to fleece them – big time!!!
toonarmydownsouth
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Comment #20Cant see why liverpool would look at any1 at the ACN no one would sign for them racist striker arrogant lying manager who blindly defends his racist striker and niw fans racially abusing players in a way we only normally see in international games and wen it happens then were all calling for the f.a to punish the club
ginkoh
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Comment #21Yes we are feeder club but they have to feed us high enough to get what they need.
Dannyo
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Comment #22Finishing above Liverpool would be almost as great as reaching Europe imo. If there’s a year we have a shot doing that, it’s now.
King Kenny is a rubbish manager.
toonincheek
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Comment #23Ba and/or Tiote to be sold? You can never say never.
But look on the bright side.
MA has set in place a culture that he doesn’t pay over the odds for anyone. Clubs are getting to realise that now so we won’t be ripped off. OK, so we may lose out on s signing now and again – that;’s life. But we are still getting enough good players at a sensible price to be moving forward.
Selling – as yet, have we sold anyone at a low price, anyone that we have missed, anyone who has really affected the team?
I wasn’t happy about AC leaving but you have to admit £35 mill just couldn’t be turned down. Barton and Nolan – much the same. We may not have been happy at the time, but time has shown these to be sensible practical decisions.
Again, the culture being developed is that any of our players are for sale, but only at a high price.
It was always said that developing talent to sell on was part of the business plan. Of course we want to keep the best ones, like Ba and Tiote (not to mention Cabaye) – we are the fans, after all.
But then, Abeid could well be the next Tiote and Vukic could be the next Cabaye. But I’d want to see them develop much more before letting anyone go.
So far, the balance overall has been in the team’s favour. We are managing just great without Carroll, Nolan or Barton.
(Great twitter/facebook comment from the guy that Barton went head to head with – said he collapsed because Barton’s breath was so bad!)
I do have concerns about the future – don’t want to see Tiote go. He’s so much part of the team and team spirit.
Would we have the same team spirit if the squad thought they were just commodities?
LGFUAD21
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:31 AM
Comment #24This just makes me laugh. I always get dirty Liverpool fans giving it all about how shit we are as a team. Yet they do seem to love buying our players.
Lets face it. Liverpool are not the club they used to be. By a mile. They are lucky to be where they are in the league and even with their huge spending will struggle to get Champions league and back into the top 4. The one trick they have is the ability to somehow convince players that they are on a par with the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal.
It would be weird if Demba (a man who appears to be very modest, humble and grounded) were to go to them. Especially given their racist inclinations.
Just like Carroll i will say why? (other than money) when he could stay here and become a legend what with being our solid first choice striker. He is already a Senegal mainstay (so its not even like Enrique going “i want to be in the spain team” (keep dreaming pal).
Also would be horrified if we had Carroll in exchange. A truly one trick pony, either he would not work in our new style or we would undo all our good work to accommodate him. Demba is an all round talent. Also Carroll has clearly lost his head. If you watch him, he has no idea on positioning, he looks like a lost sheep.
Lets hope that the board offers Ba the wages he deserves.
Liverpool can f@#k off. Just as I said, the Dalglish effect is already wearing off. They only picked up last season because the morale and hype of his return. Always thought he was overrated as a manager. He’s done nearly bugger all since Blackburn. This is the man that took the entertainers to 13th!!!
The prem is a joke. Apart from Wenger and Sir Fergie (even though I despise the man) and possibly Dirty Harry, the top teams really do have poor management and are geared on money that’s all.
The best managers in the league that deserve to be at the top
O’Neill (Shame he’s with the scum)
David Moyes
Paul Lambert
RANT OVER!
Benton Toon Exile
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Comment #25Premier league rules state you cannot play for more than 2 clubs in one season so believe me Demba Ba will remain a Newcastle player.
Pardew gave him a 3 year contract when all, I repeat all other premier league clubs scoffed. So I think you will find he will be going no where.
Spuggy
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Comment #26A few observations:
– Mike Ashley is running Newcastle like a business, a shop window (have you seen the stadium lately)
– He will NEVER have a true affinity with the area, he will never be so passionate about the club like us fans to keep our best players and push on to the next level.
– He is not so stupid to run an unsuccessful football club, so he has invested in youth and scouting to get great player at bargain prices – a great strategy we’d all agree.
– With monopoly money strategies from teams like Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham the world has gone mad, and 99% of players are now available to these teams. It’s crazy money which no player is truly worth. The truth is, unless we have an investor like one of these clubs, we will never be in the champions league because we will always sell our best players.
– Fair enough if we are going to sell player to rich clubs, it’s good business, but we should have a no sale in January policy for these players, only selling them in the Summer and with at least 4 weeks of the transfer window to go.
Football is diseased now, the premier league is diseased. It will be great to see what effect these new financial rules bring, here’s hoping, but I can’t see it. The big clubs will always rule the world.
In my opinion we are 4 top quality players of a top 4 team. A RB, CB, RW and top striker. But MA isn’t interested getting into Europe. In truth he can’t, without spending massive amounts of money to compete with the other clubs. I for one don’t really want to see that.
solano
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Comment #27toonincheck….you almost had me convinced there! 😉
Most fans, in their heart of hearts, know what is going on and that the guys running the club don’t care about the football side of things. The best thing would be for them to leave asap and give someone a shot who is interested in developing a successful side that will challenge and fulfil our latent potential as one of the giants of the English game – something we will never be as long as we send messages out that we always sell at the right price.
Benton Toon Exile
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Comment #28What is more concerning is the interest shown in Tiote by Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and Spurs.
Also Cabaye has a big fan in Alex Ferguson.
BelfastMagpie87
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Comment #29Andy Carroll was very happy too ffs.Money talks….
I just hope If he leaves it’s to Man Utd,City,or Chelsea.
Would hate to see him go there…
BelfastMagpie87
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Comment #30Benton Toon Exile // Jan 8, 2012 at 10:34 AM
It’s 3 clubs mate not two.
geordiesteve520
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Comment #31None of these clubs were keen on taking a punt on him on a free transfer so why would they now with at least £10 million on the table? His knee problems remain the same and I am not even sure we’d have gone for him had he not been free; hoping this just blows over.
solano
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Comment #32Belfast…Andy Carroll was crying the day after his move when he realised what a numpty he had been to let himself be dazzled by the coin and letting himself get talked into it by all parties ( I know that for a fact). I think our “new style” of play that we played against Man Utd on Wednesday would be perfectly suited to carroll’s style of play. What do they call it around here? Hoof ball?
BelfastMagpie87
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Comment #33solano // Jan 8, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Apparently Nolan was In Carrolls ear telling him to move according to Carrolls former agent on Twatter…
moonraker
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Comment #34Dont think Ba will be easy to take away from us because they will have trouble getting insurance for his “dodgy knee” and Ashley being a maverick didnt worry as got him free. It’s a different thing when you have to pay 10 million though.
Tiote is my worry now; that performance against Man U put him in the shop window big time. Good news for us is Ashley will want an absolute fortune for him and the big spenders dont like to have the piss taken out of them.
Liverpool taking AC for 35mil has made them look stupid, especially with us gettin DB on a free.
Anyway whichever way you look at the good times are back as far as I’m concerned; what a performance again yesterday from the lads. Those were the games we used to lose every time! Not any more!
Pards has restored the passion back to the Toon!
solano
Jan 8, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Comment #35Belfast..yes he was….but I also know Carroll’s mates and his dad works with a friend of mine. + I’ve saw first hand the infamous texts sent to a certain Newcastle follower and a former pro.
Don’t want to dwell on past history, but just thought someone should offer an alternative version than the Llambias one.
moonraker
Jan 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Comment #36Some of you neggars make me laugh. Running down the owner again saying he knows nothing about football.
If you knew anything about the history of football you would know that’s always been the case.
Cloughie had god knows how many rows with his clubs owners and if you want to go back further Len Shackleton wrote a book with a blank page in it headed ” What the average director knows about football”.
And look at the state FFS left the Toon in, having taken out millions in salaries and dividends.
Get real and look where we are in the league!!
bills-son
Jan 8, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Comment #37Here we go again with the ‘feeder club’ nonsense.
WE ARE NOT A FEEDER CLUB.
Unless you call feeding Carroll to LPool for £35M and replacing him with Ba on a free. Every fan on here is now saying they would never swap AC for Ba so why the fkn hell don’t you just admit that you got it wrong last January and that Ashley got it right? Because that is the FACT.
Do you also call kicking the ar$ehole Barton out and not giving Nolan the 5yr £60K deal he wanted feeding them to other clubs?
The only player we’ve missed is Enrique – he refused to sign a contract because he thought we were relegation material. Got that wrong didn’t he. Having said that Santon looks as if he could be just as good or even better.
Feeder club? Absolute garbage with NO TRUTH.
What the club are saying is that every player has their price. If City offered £500M for Messi he would be sold. EVERY player has their price.
Ashley and Pardew learnt from Carroll (who they genuinely DID NOT want to sell) never again to say a player will never be sold. Nobody thought the LFools woould offer £35M in cash for AC – that was a stupid offer, it was accepted, and it has proven to be the RIGHT DECISION.
So now the club say it will take ‘stupid money’ to get us to sell. Stupid means far more than the player is worth. Any fan who thinks Ashley will sell at the drop of a hat to make a profit is living in cloud cuckoo land. Not one top Toon player is being touted around to sell – that is a fact.
If Ashley wanted to trouser a profit he could sell Krul, Collo, Cabaye, Tiote and Ba tomorrow for c£100M with an £80M profit. Not a fkn chance he will. Why? Because he IS here to build our club. FFS he brought ALL of these players to the club !!!
I’ve said before – Toon fans had better get used to coping with top clubs being interested ion our players. Why? Because we’ve got some top top players and the best squad we’ve had in years. THAT’S FKN GREAT IN MY BOOK.
No club is going to do Ashly over – the opposite applies as LFool have found out. We are financially strong, we don’t need to sell our top players, we don’t want to sell our top players but if clubs offer seriously stupid money we MIGHT consider it.
Feeder club? Absolute garbage. No evidence. NONE.
moonraker
Jan 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Comment #38bills-son
Common sense does prevail on this blog 🙂
bills-son
Jan 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Comment #39solano – if Carroll was crying after the move it was because Ashley played hardball with LPool, turned down £25M and £30M to let them know that he DIDN’T want to sell – and then gave them a take it or leave it £35M in cash of fk off option.
Carroll and his agent (especially his agent) would have been creaming themselves at the thought of the lolly coming their way. If Carroll regretted moving remember he could have just said NO I’M NOT LEAVING.
He didn’t – he signed – and if he’s regretted it that’s just tough sh$t. Ashley did LPool over – simple as.
dmac
Jan 8, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Comment #40Agree with bills son. Barton and nolan no longer cut it, Carroll is the best transfer we have ever made and the only regret i have aka Enrique wanting out was replaced with Santon who has already shown to be a very good player. I wasnt this convinced by Enrique when he first signed..