Newcastle Becoming Savvy Operators In The Transfer Market


Newcastle fans fans liked the big signings we made under Freddy Shepherd, although very few of them turned out to be any good.

Freddy Shepherd – made some bih money signings but few were good ones

Mike Ashley has set a strategy in place which concentrates more on youth,  and looks to make some very good bargains in the transfer market, and Mike will probably never pay more than around £7M for any player.

But in truth, based on the last 18 months to 24 months Newcastle have  brought in some great players like Mike Williamson, Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba, Ben Arfa, Davide Santon and Sylvain Marveaux,  to name only a few.

The fans would like Mike Ashley to spend more money, that’s also true, but we have done quite well since last season with our new acquisitions, that fans may even be warming to Mike, well maybe just a little bit. 😀

The bottom line is that Newcastle fans want to see a very good team again, that’s back playing in Europe and challenging in the top six, but it’s not too clear, at least to us,  what Mike Ashley wants for Newcastle.

Newcastle have a first class scouting network, with Graham Carr as the Chief Scout, and we’ve made some bargain buys of late, and some bargain sales as well – like Andy Carroll to Liverpool for £35M in cool cash.

Newcastle will concentrate on checking out free agents (like Demba Ba, Dan Gosling, Sylvain Marveaux and Mehdi Abeid) and getting some very good deals in the transfer market,  and also continuing to bring in top youngsters to the club.

And so far it seems to be working quite well.

We’ve spent almost nothing of the £35M in cash we received for Andy Carroll, and that’s both good and bad, depending on how you look at it.

The summer transfer market for Newcastle was one of the best for a very long time,  when we managed to acquire Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba, Sylvain Marveaux, Gabriel Obertan, David Santone and Mehdi Abeid for around £13M – and that’s good business in anybody’s book.

When you consider we received around £12M for Kevin Nolan, Jose Enrique and Wayne Routledge, then the club spent very little net transfer money last summer, but we still have a much better side than last season – so go figure.

The proof of the pudding is in how good the new signings are,  and based on that criteria Newcastle did very well indeed last summer in the transfer market.

There was news this morning that Newcastle officials have been in Paris negotiating with various agents, and they were said to be interested in four or five players.

So we have to hope we’ll have just as successful a transfer window this coming summer, with perhaps  a couple of very good players – a center-back and a striker – arriving in January.

If the club can do that then we may be challenging seriously for a top six position next season, or even this season for the matter.

Howay The Lads!!

Comments always welcome.



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57 comments so far

  • JackButler

    Jan 11, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #1

    Less money but more quality

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 11, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #2

    just watched the highlights from the wigan game that jason priors goal is hell of a finish, looks like hes got great movement n awareness of space id b suprised if he dont get a short term deal to prove himself

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #3

    i wouldnt change the signings were making for anything

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  • Dannyo

    Jan 11, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #4

    @JB
    Well said.

    @davybtoon
    I saw it too, very nice that one. I won’t be surprised if he got a 1 year deal to get up to speed and prove himself. Depending of we are on the table at the end of the season, he might even get a game. Otherwise i wouldn’t bet on him until next year.
    Worth a shot, the lad would deffo take a 1 year deal for sure.

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  • boardman64

    Jan 11, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #5

    @davybtoon Where did you see the highlights?

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  • JackButler

    Jan 11, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #6

    Under Sheppard we threw money around with no care for the fuure and we ended up with massive transfer free’s, massive wages and virtually no commitment to the club or passion for the shirt. Under Ashley the transfer fee’s and wages have been halved but no one can doubt the quality of the players coming in

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #7

    dannyo thats my thinking give him a year n half contract let use the rest of this season to get his fitness up to our level n u never kno
    his finish was one of someone who u can see is goal scorer

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #8

    @broadman there on nufctv

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #9

    also commentater says hes only trained with us for a few days so he still has time to impress

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  • alec6247toon

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #10

    We have definitely become a model that I think many more clubs are going to start following soon with regards to transfers when the new financial fair play rules come in next season. We have done very well in the summer, but we can’t just have one good transfer window every couple of seasons, we need to be doing it year after year.

    I think some of the problems we have been getting as well, is that other clubs are starting to indentify the fantastic scouting network we have and almost following the lead we make in some cases with regards to targets.

    What I dont want to see happening though, is players using us and a platform into the premier league and then move onto another ‘bigger’ club.

    Not wanting to put down any of the work that has been done by Graham Carr and his team, it has been fantastic and long may it continue

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  • cheikmate

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #11

    A lens midfielder/striker is currently on trial on newcastle, say french paper l’equipe. He is 20 years old, algerian and was apparently wanted by bayern munich in the summer. talksport say he is a midfielder, l’equipe have him down as a forward.

    Here is both stories:

    http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/1455/22/newcastle-focus-lens-star?

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2012/20120111_103334_deux-lensois-vers-l-angleterre.html

    heres a basic profile of him as well but you will need to translate:

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/FootballFicheJoueur32022.html

    ANYBODY KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIM ?

    And heres a brief of his profile

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  • check the toastie

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #12

    gotta say, think there will only be two transfers max in january, defo a young centre back of the tompkins type, but not him as hes to expensive and probably too much chew, may get somebody else but all this hoillett, erdinc, mbiwa, rhodes rumours is like groundhog day, sure as sh@t they wont be coming.

    Pardew has already said we have 8 million to spend on a defender, thats a 3-5 million CB with all the cost of signing him, all this false excitement just gives people the excuse to slate the management of the club, wouldnt be surprised if we end up back in for Ridgewell(undisclosed fee), just being realistic i think.

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  • GoalsBringSmiles

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #13

    I would just like him to not sell our best players so that we can build on what we have. I agree with some of the transfer dealings in that we won’t be held to ransom, won’t pay astronomical wages and are on the look out for clauses and bargains but ultimately the most successful teams refuse to sell their assets and are willing to make exceptions-i.e. if the right player costs 20 million but can take us that extra level in order to compete at the top then our owner should be willing to pay, especially given that he isn’t exactly short of money….this to me would reflect an owner who is passionate about his club and actually seeks footballing success-unfortunately MA doesn’t have the right balance between business and footballing interests

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  • toonoholic

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #14

    remember how we were shouting lets get nzoggy lets get nzoggy to toon for 10mn ? Has he done anything for Aston Villa yet ?

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  • GoalsBringSmiles

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #15

    we can hardly say Marveux has been a good signing he’s crocked…time yet I suppose

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  • solano

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #16

    JB….SBR operated under Shepherd and we competed at the very top with a team to be proud of….I don’t for one moment pretend that everything was rosy and FFS made some horrendous errors of judgement but really, it all boils down to having the right manager and giving him the backing to build something worthwhile. We may indeed, have unearthed a gem of a manager and some really exciting players – we just need to secure them by adding more quality and that will take some real investment. The pivotal time is now!

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  • cheikmate

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #17

    sorry if this is a repost but i got an error message last time

    A lens midfielder/striker is currently on trial on newcastle, say french paper l’equipe. He is 20 years old, algerian and was apparently wanted by bayern munich in the summer. talksport say he is a midfielder, l’equipe have him down as a forward.

    Here is both stories:

    http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/1455/22/newcastle-focus-lens-star?

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2012/20120111_103334_deux-lensois-vers-l-angleterre.html

    heres a basic profile of him as well but you will need to translate:

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/FootballFicheJoueur32022.html

    ANYBODY KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIM ?

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #18

    gbs – marveux injured but cud see hes a quality

    another note anyone see mark hughes press conference i like hughes as a manager n he showed respect today by saying he didnt want to talk about other teams players something candleface shud try doin in the future

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  • styla

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #19

    Hey Guys heres some interesting stuff for you to look at.This Armand Doorn is a Dutch Agent who owns Goal 4U Sports Management http://nl.linkedin.com/pub/armand-doorn/9/256/9b8

    Also id like to add this other links to state that DEMBA BA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM this link is to show the players G4UM have and if im not mistaken armand doorn has been in a couple of transfers with MUFC.im currently looking for this proof.i think MUFC are trying to tap up BA

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  • cheikmate

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #20

    sorry if this is a repost but i got an error message last time

    A lens midfielder/striker is currently on trial on newcastle, say french paper l’equipe. He is 20 years old, algerian and was apparently wanted by bayern munich in the summer. talksport say he is a midfielder, l’equipe have him down as a forward.

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  • GeordieDan

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #22

    Just watched the extended highlights of the reserves game against Wigan and have to say that Jason Prior kid looks a decent striker.

    His positioning throughout looked good and his strike was outstanding.

    Slightly concerned when I heard Donachie hinting Prior was good but would maybe be picked up by another club ie . perhaps not NUFC.

    The lad has to be worth at least a few more weeks trial to see if he can make the step up.

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  • Dannyo

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #24

    Give this is a listen.

    Mark Douglas is about to come on according to himself on twitter, talking about nufc and transfers.

    http://www.skysports.com/radio

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #25

    thing i like about pardew hes managed turn players that werent doing it into very good squad players ie guthrie, best, rtaylor, perch

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  • GeordieGerman

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #26

    If we continue bringing in new players from France/Turkey won’t we at some point have a problem naming a “home grown” squad.

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  • JackButler

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #27

    solano – Agree that under SBR we brought in some decent players, but we still paid massive money in both transfer fee’s and wages that all ended up as massive debt that the club had to carry and that Ashley ultimately ended up paying off. But yes we have to add to what we already have so we can stabilise and eventually push on from where we are not.

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  • styla

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #28

    im listening haha

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  • LGFUAD21

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #29

    @toonoholic

    I was thinking the exact same thing last week

    @GoalsBringSmiles

    True. But he was beginning to show some serious ability that we couldve used just before that happened. I reckon he wouldve been a definite starter by now had he not been injured. Im just hoping he isnt a Michael Owen

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #30

    geordiedan i agree he looked good all b it v wigan reserves but he shud b giving short term deal

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  • JackButler

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    Comment #31

    GG – It helps that the like’s of Krul and Vukic are classed as ‘Home Grown’ players because of their age and time with the club, hopefully we have a few more young ‘un’s coming through

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  • GoalsBringSmiles

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #32

    Jack

    ‘Under Sheppard we threw money around with no care for the fuure and we ended up with massive transfer free’s, massive wages and virtually no commitment to the club or passion for the shirt.’

    I see your point and I agree that the structure in place now is an improvement in a lot of ways and has the potential to be the recipe for success but then who ever talked about the clubs finances when we were playing regularly in Milan, Marseille, Kiev, Turin etc. I certainly didn’t give a flying fart about the debt when doing the pogo in the Velodrome!!! It does no good to compare really because the two situations are completely different, in some ways Shepherd brought more money into the club than MA through european qualification for example. Also the rhetoric that MA saved us from bankruptcy is an exagarration.

    The last part of your statement is simply ridiculous-‘no commitment and no passion for the club’ There were many great players in the Shepherd era who were as committed as any we have now. There’s no need and no point in criticising past players or owners just to embellish your support of MA, bearing in mind that we have been nowhere as near to footballing success since he took the reins.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    Comment #33

    Vuckic has looked consistently superb for the reserves since he returned from injury. Completely a cut above everyone else.

    I think it’s may be time to start getting excited about him.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #34

    @check the toastie would only cost around 4 mil dont think tgats urealistic also erdnic would only be 5-6 mil rhodes is prob out of reach cos tge lads hot property at the mo but hoillet worst case we can sign him on a pre contract dont see ridgewell coming they said we want a young cb with potential plus hughton has been promised no players leaving

    Oh and no one from the club has said how much weve got to spend thats just the media talkin shite no one knows except the club we might sign no one we might sign five players nobody knows its a bonus strengthening the squad as long as we dont weaken it anymore

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  • alec6247toon

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    Comment #35

    GG thats a good point, however I think the criteria is within the 25 man squad you have to have 8 players who have trained in England for a minimum of 3 years prior to turning 21, so that would give us all the english players, Krul, Vuckic, Inman, Ferguson, Obertan (was at ManU) and I think Best is also HG, so thats 6 and then we also have 12 others who are HG, so were not too bad with regards to it at the moment, but it is something we need to be cautious of it in the near future

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  • GeordieGerman

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #36

    Ta Jack and alec.

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  • JackButler

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #37

    GoalsBringSmiles – The Leeds fans didn’t care about the finance’s of the club when they were in the Champions League either and looked where they ended up.

    Yes we had some great players under FFS who were proud to play for the club but there were more that saw us as a big pay-day and walked when something better came along in terms of money. I don’t call the like’s of Dyer and Bellamy refusing to play in certain position or Dyer and Bowyer beating each other to a pulp in the middle of SJP something that has pride or commitment. Under Sheppard we were a soap opera for every other fan to laugh at.

    As for being a Ashley supporter, you obviously don’t know me at all, I don’t like the guy at all, but I call things as I see them that means recognising the good things that he’s done and also the bad things (which there have been far too many)

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    Comment #38

    Lest we forget, Fat Fred & his pals managed to make themselves extremely unpopular at times, but would resort to big (usually wasters) signings to suck up to the fans again & buy happiness on the pitch. Mike Ashley is just the opposite very shrewd in the market, has people who are knowledgeable and outspoken beside him, but isn’t unduly concerned with public image. I think they will actually come good with their buying savvy and we will be still a strong team at the end of the year, whoever is still here. Won’t expect Mike holding his hands up and saying ‘sorry for any offense’ tho.

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  • GeordieoftheSouth

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #39

    #cheikmate

    Apparently not:

    nufcfans NUFCfans
    Correction: L’Equipe claims Omrani set for a trial, we’ve just spoken to a mate of his who says he had trial but nothing came of it. #NUFC
    46 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

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  • GoalsBringSmiles

    Jan 11, 2012 at 6:47 PM

    Comment #40

    Jack

    Apologies I attached a general point about pro-Ashley fans who use criticism of Shepherd as a means of supporting MA, I do recall that you aren’t exactly davyb, Billsson or Cupid-people who I rarely agree with-I tend to agree with your posts for the most part. But again, I’ve never really bought the comparison with Leeds-again the situations differed massively, for a start we still had capacity crowds regardless, and until the last year or two of shepherd’s reign we played in europe-no financial meltdown was reported during this time it is actually only since MA bought the club that talk of possible Administration surfaced -I believe it is a spin of the current regime to justify minimal investment. As I said earlier, we do need to spend that bit more in order to truly compete and show some ambition-this does not mean i expect marquee multi million pound signings, maybe one treasure buy would be nice if as i say the player is of the right calibre. But let me emphasise again that I am at the same time pleased that we are more financially secure but this does not mean we should be held to ransom or indebted to the current owner in any way, as paying fans we are entitled to our ambitions and it would be nice if this was wholeheartwdly reflected in the attitude of the owner.

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