So What Happened In The Second Half Today?


That second half  this afternoon,  when Newcastle conceded  4 goals in just 17 minutes,  to go from dominating the game at 1-0 up,  to being 4-1 down, reminded us of the first 26 minutes of the Arsenal game last February, when we also conceded four goals and didn’t seem to be too interested.

Pardew – watched Newcastle collapse ion that second half

Too many Newcastle players seemed to  turn off  in the second half this afternoon, and it’s something that Alan Pardew will need to get to the bottom of  – and quickly too.

But we think the substitution of the injured Steve Sidwell for Andrew Johnson in the first half changed the game, and Fulham manager Martin Jol cannot event take credit for it.

That put Johnson up front and was a foil to the hitherto lost and frustrated striker Bobby Zamara.

Here’s how Alan Pardew tried to explain it after the game to talkSport:

“That’s a very unusual performance from us,”  “I can’t recall us ever defending quite like we did in the second-half.”

“It’s just so difficult to explain as a manager because we couldn’t have played any better in the first-half, with the players that we had playing at their maximum, but the goals in the second-half were astonishing.”

“It wasn’t like there were huge periods of pressure from Fulham.”

We think Alan Pardew has every right to hold up his hands and wonder what happened,  because in that first half it seemed that the Newcastle game plan seemed perfect,  and the lads  nullified Fulham completely.

The only thing that didn’t go well for Newcastle in that first half was that Best and Ameobi up front didn’t look too sharp at all,  and it was left to Danny Guthrie and then Hatem Ben Arfa to score two great individual goals this afternoon.

Best and Ameobi will have to justify why they should remain in the side, and that’s probably unfair to Leon best – but not to Shola.

Ameobi had one of those game today when he seemed to do almost everything badly, an it’s so frustrating to watch a player who in reality is blessed with lots of skill.

But it was the defense, usually so strong this season, that let Newcastle down badly today – fact.

We are very disappointed about the result today, and even a bit depressed after looking so very good in that first half,  but here’s some of the things we noted today:

  • The first half  Newcastle looked great and we  were so dominating it was even embarrassing,  and at half time we we wrote about the game we said Fulham couldn’t play as bad int he second half as they had done in those in those first 45 minutes – in retrospect obviously an error on our part
  • There was not cutting edge up front and think of how many we could have been ahead at half time if a certain Demba Ba was playing in place of Shola Ameobi who missed two good heading opportunities
  • Newcastle must keep Ben Arfa in the starting line-up because for the second time in three games, he made a goal out of nothing and this lad can score goals and now has three goals on the season –  3rd top scorer at Newcastle
  • With Ameobi looking so ineffective this afternoon, please play a  fit again Peter Lovenkrands in the next game in the FA Cup 4tgh round at Brighton next  Saturday
  • Andrew Johnson’s pace seemed to cause the Newcastle defense all kinds of trouble much like Shane Long did when we lost to West Brom 3-2 at home
  • Referee Lee Mason gave two penalties this afternoon that were very debatable and on another day neither would have been given

But it’s only one game – that’s what we have to remember – and not to over-react – but Newcastle owe the fans a win at Blackburn in the next league game and no collapses please.

And if we do manage to beat Blackburn Rovers in the next game, we’ll be in good shape in 11 days time.

And to end on a positive note – Liverpool again came through for us in the late game today, by losing 3-1 at Bolton – and Bolton deserved to take all 3 points.

So we’re still in 6th place in the league table and 6 points ahead of 8th placed Stoke City.

Comments welcome.



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40 comments so far

  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    Comment #1

    Andrew jhonson ripped us apart

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  • t00ntime

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    Comment #2

    agree with everything there like lol 2nd pen I thought was right… krul did take johnson and none of the ball but the first was definatly wrong

    also the quick strikers hurt us because o f our too high line

    also our team dissapeard aafter they scored twice… this is when we need a player like nolan to rack up the team, normally colo does that but I guess it must be harder when the whole team know 2 of our best players are away (it must get there confidence down and when then 2nd goals went in it must of plummited) o i sad 2 not 3 case cisse hasnt made a name up here YET lol
    his frist hat trick against sunderland? sounds good to me lol

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #3

    first penalty was given by assistant lines – woman

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  • king123

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #4

    please guys can we look at this defeat in context, we had 3 BIG players missing, and fulham had a full strength side, time to really judge us when we have all our players back from the ACN.
    Had tiote played today we would have one, FACT.
    & enough of the pardew rubbish. Pards has done a fantastic job@

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  • Cheickn Stevens

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #5
  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #6

    2nd penalty could have been for willos challenge too

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  • king123

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #7

    Indian Magpie, that makes not relevance constructive comments only.

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  • gonz

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #8

    What happened in the second half is something that hasn’t happened all season so far, and won’t happen again! Let’s move on now!

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  • t00ntime

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #9

    king they were missing 2 of there main player aswell lol

    and how are we missing 3 BIG players… were missing 2 we havent had cisse yet lol you cant miss something you havent had 😉

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  • Slatymag

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #10

    Prior not given a contract? Shame that – it could’ve been a dream for the lad and a financial pleasure for MA.

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  • gonz

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:34 PM

    Comment #11

    Cisse is on the bench tongiht! Damn! Wanted to see him in action, more so than Ba!

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  • king123

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #12

    fair point toon time, but tiote and & bas are top4 players so its difficult to do a comparison with schwarzer & dembele. yes we havent seen cisse play but by all accounts his goal record is fab, suggesting hes a top player.

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  • t00ntime

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #13

    I think we should just move on from this game lol let pardew use it as motivation to NEVER get complacent and just keep going

    we can still easily make top 6/7 and when the ACoN is over we will rack up points again… we wont lose till we play spurs thats when we have to worry lol

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  • gonz

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #14

    How do you know that Slatymag?

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  • GeordieRob

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #15

    From Tsunki in previous thread:

    “I think this is what we should do:

    Sack Pardew and get JFK back in.
    put Ba, Cisse, HBA, Cabaye on the bench.
    Make Shola captain & give him number 9
    Rename St James’ Park Sports Direct Anusol
    Hire Steve Bruce as club scout.
    Sell Coloccini to Liverpool for £50, McDonalds coffee loyalty car (half full ) and a blood orange.
    Knock the Gallowgate end down and make it a Naturist Casino

    Or, for the more sensible element of this blog, do nothing but regroup, change our shorts and come up with another plan.”

    At least the managers press conferences would be more entertaining…. class!

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  • king123

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #16

    well said gonz, some people just over reacting

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  • Slatymag

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #17

    @gonz

    Unless someone was taking the p*** there was a tweet on the last thread from Steve Wraith saying so.

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  • Slatymag

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #18

    Not that it makes it set in stone 100% like but…

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #19

    king123

    Could nt have been as bad as Shola

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #20

    maybe we just had a bad case of wind.

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  • king123

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #21

    we lacked a holding player today, because as good as cabaye and guthrie are they are both playmakers thus unbalancing the side.

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  • t00ntime

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    Comment #22

    thats true king I just like to nit-pick lol
    aslong as pardew gets his defensive line right when we are playing against quick players and our players dont lose all hope for 10mins again we will be fine

    also krul had 2 50/50 shots go past him today… thats unusal for krul lol BIG Tim will be fired up for clean sheets now lol

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    Comment #23

    lee_ryder Lee Ryder
    Jason Prior has confirmed no deal at #nufc good luck son
    1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

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  • Slatymag

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    Comment #24

    Ah, just had a look back and it was @stevewraith. My apologies. Could be bull. Don’t really get twitter.

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  • RobertNufc25

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    Comment #25

    It looked like somebody else took control of the playstation controller for the second half.lol

    Somebody younger & not as good at fifa as the first half player….. 😉

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  • gonz

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #26

    Cheers king123, I’ve seen enough of from our players, management, scouting system and I hate to say it, but even Ashley and Llambias have done enough this season to prove that we are heading in the right direction. I can’t see Stoke, West Brom, A. Villa, 5under1and, Norwich, Everton being able to catch us, let alone pass us up in the EPL. Liverpool are in our sights and we’ve got the advantage over them right now! Arsenal are catchable too! I’d say it’s been a successful first half of the season, let’s just hope that the second half doesn’t go down as our second half of play today!

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  • king123

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #27

    IMO game against balckburn will be a our biggest game of the season. we must respond positively

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  • Slatymag

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #28

    Don’t mind Cisse being on the bench at all. I’d like a look at him myself, but coming back injury free is my main concern.

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  • macdonaldtudor

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #29

    The good thing about our team this season is the seem to be able to bounce back and we still have a decent team things could and have been a lot worse I remember watching us lose 8-1 at West Ham and Alvin Martin getting a treble from CB against three different goalkeepers that was a fun 6hr trip home Ha Ha

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  • king123

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:44 PM

    Comment #30

    lol gonz heres for hoping. but i dont think it will, once we get all our players back we are have the 6th best starting 11 in the prem with the exception being the top4 & arsenal. we wil be fine.
    we must not loose sight of the HUGE progress we have made in such a short time and as a club we are still growing. take fulham for eg how many +30 players do they have?

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  • G

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:47 PM

    Comment #31

    Toon got complacent after a decent first half. Came out full of their own self importance, started to get flapping once Fulham got their 2nd goal, and then had no idea how to rally themselves. Fulham were not great in the 2nd half, so much as we were dreadful in the 2nd half. No idea what AP said to them at half time, but I hope he never says it again whatever it was. Regards the female assistant, I was sat with the Fulham fans right behind her for a big patch of the game, and aside from thinking she had quite a nice bottom, I don’t think she got much wrong today at all. I didn’t like it, and would have preferred her to rule off at least 3 Fulham goals, I really couldn’t fault her performance.

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  • ash1001

    Jan 21, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    Comment #32

    Newcastle nanagement have got to stop papering over the cracks, if they are been held back by MA or DL they need to say so. yes there have been some pretty decent buys within the last year, but we are still short of numbers and those that have to stand in for injuries and ACN etc are just not good enough. There’s no need to name them we all know who they are.
    The we come to tactics, we were going along quite nicely until last week when Jonas seemed to be under orders to go anywhere but on the left which left Santon exposed on a number of occasions, hell I know he is good but its still only his 3rd game in the PL. Krul insists on hoofing it up the field and at present we all know the direction that’s heading in, and the outcome which is that it will probably come right back, which it did today.
    Today we were out thought as well as out played.

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  • wynsleap

    Jan 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    Comment #33

    Two things the Toon never seem to learn:
    1. When you’ve gone in to the break in front after totally dominating the first half you have to expect that the opposing manager is going to tear down the dressing room walls and send his team out for the second period like men possessed.
    It is incredible the number of times we wilt straight after the interval in face of the expected onslaught. We tend to weather the storm if we manage to keep a goal out in the early stages but if the opposition score early on we always go to pieces from there onwards and they gain added momentum.
    2. We can not play 90 minutes with 10 men (when Shola is on the pitch.
    When will the club realise that this player is an ABSOLUTE WASTE OF SPACE?
    Quite frankly I’d rather see another midfield performer or winger playing with one up front.
    When Demba Ba and Cisse return I pray that that is the end of Stroller’s involvement anywhere near the squad.
    I wonder how impressed Ben Arfa and Cisse are with that scoreline tonight?
    Oh and if I was Pardew I’d be telling them that the Tenerife trip is off and they’re in for double training next week.

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  • Wor Shearer

    Jan 21, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    Comment #34

    It’s not looking good for Ba and his men 1-0

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  • kayazirie

    Jan 21, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    Comment #35

    Zambia 1-Senegal 0 Ba hasnt really had a touch yet…..

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  • Rosted Pork

    Jan 21, 2012 at 9:23 PM

    Comment #36

    hope senegal loose n.get knockd out . so we can hav ba n.papiss back

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  • kayazirie

    Jan 21, 2012 at 9:23 PM

    Comment #37

    make that 2 nil….Senegal looking like theyre asleep

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  • AndyMac

    Jan 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM

    Comment #38

    “Or, for the more sensible element of this blog, do nothing but regroup, change our shorts and come up with another plan.”

    What like the other plan Pardwho didnt have ?

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  • Seba29072

    Jan 21, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    Comment #39

    Agree with @wynslep about our expectations of Fulham.

    Andy Johnson ripped us apart with his pace, this was evident before half-time when Santon brought him down.

    We need a CB with more pace that Colo, we got ripped apart by West Brom in the same way. For me Pardew should have sat the team deeper in an atempt to neutralise the threat.

    All in all, fair play to Fulham, on their day there as good as anyone at home.

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  • Solaidback

    Jan 22, 2012 at 8:03 AM

    Comment #40

    Well to start off, Strola shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team, not even on the bench, he’s worse than a none league player, we’d have done better keepin Prior & playing him instead… I’m not a great fan of Strolas to start off with but these past 2 games has just proven what I always thought, he’s completely useless & doesn’t give a toss anymore about the team!!!

    As for the match officials… now I’m not going to say its because she’s a woman but that match officail gave a penalty even tho it the incident was outside the box & allowed a goal even though Demsey knocked it in with his arm… to say we were playing with 10 men & them with 12 would be a fair assessment of the game, it was embarrassing to watch & I’m shocked at how badly our defence couldn’t cope with a 5ft nowt short arse like Johnston… shocking defending from all 4 of them… 🙁

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