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• 1 Indian Magpie // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:13 PM

  good luck

• 2 Brutooon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:17 PM

  he would called James Perch and Shola Ameobi to England Squad

  Disaster for England

• 3 t00ntime // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:17 PM

  haha you people crack me up sometimes. Some of you keep saying pardew signed Obertan so lets hope carr makes all the decsions. How do you know pardew signed Obertan? If I’m correct thats what someone said on here based on nothing but idea’s. The only player we know for sure that pardew biught is Ba because carr said so himself, howmany of you think pardew got that wrong?

  Also what happend yesterday was simple to explain but pardew could do nothing about the collapse when it happend. When they put a fast striker on our (slow) cb’s cant handle em so they get into alot of space because of our high line. But if you haven’t noticed we ALWAYS have a highline, the only time you see it go wrong is when they have quickstriker(S) Long, Odemwinge, defoe and johnson for example. thats how they scored, when they got the ball we couldnt handle johnsons pace.

  now why we collapsed, think about it how would you feel going into a game with 2 strikers who have scored 6 all season put togther and missing 2 of our best players… well I can tell you, you don’t feel confident. against QPR and the first half colo had us reved up and ready. However when they put Johnson on and started penetrating our defense it was obvious our players thought: o no we are going to get spanked. And from the moment your whole team starts thinking that even colo cant cheer em up. And when the started scoring morale plumited.
  So what went wrong?
  1) when they put quick strikers on we need to lower our line
  2) we need to get our morale up for next game
  3)we need to keep our morale all game like we normally do as that is one of our strengths.

  Also didnt anyone else notice that foul which was almost a red for santon, our only player defending was santon and he was in a CB postion… then luckily simpson caught up so sant wasnt last defender But isn’t that strange? 2 furhters back players are our wingbacks.

  we need to stop bringng colo and williamson forward for corners…. only one

• 4 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:18 PM

  I hope he gets the England nod at some point, but i hope he stays with us for a long time yet. He’s done so much for the club since coming in.

• 5 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:20 PM

  Dannyo

  Haven’t you heard? Hes a poor manager, absolutely clueless, no idea about tactics, doesn’t have any say in who we sign, blindly leaves out HBA when he’s the best player in the world….

  

• 6 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:21 PM

  Btw, Colin is back (again). I’ve unfollowed the moron, he’s a filthy lying bastard, and i never want him on my timeline again.
  I suggest u all do the same. It’s all lies from him and make up storys, doesn’t even make for fun banter anymore.

• 7 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:21 PM

  http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/transfer-talk-show/blog/2012-01-22/courtney-there-no-chance-newcastle-selling-krul-spurs

  good listen first 5min and he says santon wants to play ryt back i told you

• 8 JohnnyBrookes // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:22 PM

  Alright lads that LewSpi kid out up pics of the kits he was on about on twitter,

  Wrong sponsor but home lit looks epic, like juve

  photobucket.com/nufc

• 9 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM

  am not even gutted by the performance yesterday am more gutted by the fact that we cud of went 5th n 2pts behind chelsea, chelsea starting to buil a gap from 5th place n its looking like us, arsenal n liverpool fighting for 5th, 6th n 7th

• 10 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:24 PM

  Dannyo

  It wouldn’t surprise me if he was a Mackem on the wind up mate. Genuinely. I unfollowed him after Gervinho-gate

• 11 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:25 PM

  yea seen them kits the home kit looks class but of course virgin money will b on instead of northern rock, think the away kits look alrite aswell

• 12 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:25 PM

  @TDS
  Hehe, aye, i’ve heard that.
  I’ve also noticed that those lines comes from poor fans being absolutely clueless, having no idea about tactics, cannot even remotely GUESS who we’ll sign, blindly thinks HBA is Godgiven and does everything right all the time.
  Also, they are not “supporters”, they are filthy, rotten, digusting mackems.

  So u would’nt trust em if i were u

• 13 Indian Magpie // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:26 PM

  Dannyo

  what did he do now

• 14 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:28 PM

  Johnny

  Are those allegedly leaked pictures of next seasons kits?

  The home on does look nice. Although to be honest I’m in love with this seasons home kit – shame it has to change

• 15 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:29 PM

  i hav to admit i think puma have done a great job with the kits theyve done so far

• 16 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:29 PM

  @davy
  Partly agree Davy, a loss like that isn’t like us at all, we’ve seen it trough 9/11 times this season every time we’ve scored the first goal.
  It was a collapse and i blame it on complacement. Odd thing is, we looked to be in control when they got the 3rd and 4th goal. Our backline was just too high for some reason.

  Was really an odd one out, we all know we can do better.
  Man Utd – Man City 1 – 6. Man Utd – Arsenal 8 – 2.
  It’s one of “those” results. Doesn’t worry me, but makes me mad as hell.

• 17 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:32 PM

  @Indian
  He said, and i quote: “If Cabaye plays today, i’ll leave twitter”. Saying all week his leg was in a cast, but he doesn’t know, AT ALL.
  24 hours later, he returns. Same crap as the Zoggy thing he did.
  It’s one thing to have banter and talk about rumours and stuff, but he says it like it’s a done deal, but he’s never, ever right.
  He’s just such a blatant liar, and i won’t tolerate it.

• 18 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:33 PM

  dannyo it was one of those days but for me u hav to give credit to fulham they exposed are high line time n time again we johnson n dempsy look like world beaters n they just exposed willo n colo lack of pace just like west brom did with long n odemwingie

• 19 kilcline // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:33 PM

  Lets hope Pardrew gets the job in the summer and buggers off.

  Useless.

• 20 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:35 PM

  it shows what a chronic lack of good English managers there are if pardew is seriously a contender.

  pardew was so comprehensively outwitted by a Dutch man yesterday it was embarrassing. I’ve never seen a manager accept such a capitualation and not change a single thing to try
  and effect a different outcome.

  Fulham’s goals were nearly all carbon copies yet brought zero reaction from pardew except to put on perch to prevent a bigger hiding against a team we dominated first half. that has to be very worrying.

  Why change a 433 that was working admirably to go 442, why keep a high line with slow turning defenders, why keep shola on all match. why not even try mixing it up and putting a speedy obertan up front in shola’s place. the lack of imagination and a plan B was truly staggering.

  I was on such a high after manu, but this goes ranks alongside putting smith on against wba when we were 3-0 up, playing perch over kadar at norwich and v wba at home.

  It’s these fatal flaws and stubbornness that stop pardew becoming a top, top manager, which with just bait fo flexibility he could become, yesterday was not about the players, it was all about the tactics.

• 21 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:37 PM

  i really like pardew tactically hes great which why i cant understand now in 2 matches now fulham n wba we got exposed with high line n he didnt change it

• 22 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:38 PM

  @davy
  Very true, and it’s an issue we’ll need to adress with the new CB.
  When that CB arrives, we should start thinking about rotating players to suit the team we’re playing against.
  I think Pardew is working towards that, but it won’t happen over night. It’ll be an exciting summer to say the least.

• 23 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:39 PM

  davytoon,

  managers are paid the big bucks to realise weaknesses and where wae ares truggling and do something about it , not watch car crash tv over and over again.

• 24 FollowFollow // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:40 PM

  I’m backing Martin O’Neill for the England job and Peter Reid to take over O’Neill’s current role.

• 25 Cheickn Stevens // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:41 PM

  Anyone else think Perch looks like the Peperami guy?
  http://cached.imagescaler.hbpl.co.uk/resize/scaleToFit/427/285/?sURL=http://offlinehbpl.hbpl.co.uk/news/OKM/A0E43FD7-E641-1B9F-09DC75CA55D81889.jpg

• 26 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:41 PM

  kyle walker is a fantastic ryt bk u realise how crap simpson is at goin forward when u watch walker, frustrating thing is weve tavernier who is very similar to walker in the way he attacks n shud b giving a go

• 27 seantoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:42 PM

  I thought it was Chris Hughton who brought James Perch to Newcastle? Pardew is simply playing James Perch because were struggling for numbers in certain positions can’t you see that? If we had another CB perch wouldn’t get a game! If we had another DM yesterday Perch wouldn’t have got a game! Get of pardews back we have come a long way in 2years! Some of you are absolutely braindead!!!

• 28 JohnnyBrookes // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:43 PM

  Just what I saw on twitter lads. I don’t know I’d genuine or not, but I like the home shirt a lot, looks like juve, obvs sponsor would change.

  On yesterday’s game, amazing first 45. Shite second, I think willo needs to be replaced by a fast cb, who can be comfortable with the ball at his feet. Santon had a mare as well,

• 29 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:44 PM

  anyone listen to that link i put up courtney the north east reporter reckons we cud get cb n lb sell simpson n move santon to ryt back

• 30 seantoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:45 PM

  I wonder what odds I’d get for arsenal to get battered today and to go on abad run of form. Then Wenger to leave because of the pressure. Then Wenger to become next England manager

• 31 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:46 PM

  seatoon spot there mate about pardew havin to struggle along with average squad that houghton brought in

• 32 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:48 PM

  seantoon,

  before you spout off and call peope braindead what reason was there to bring on perch instead of say Ferguson for example when we were 3-1 down?? Come on einstein.

• 33 seantoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:49 PM

  Davytoon cheers no disrespect to hughton like he did us a fantastic job and I like him and wish him all the best but Perch was just a bad buy which all managers make a couple of in there careers

• 34 seantoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:50 PM

  Ferguson can’t play DM?

• 35 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:51 PM

  is kadar the captain of the reserves and a hungary international whose played the last 7 reserve fixtures a figment of our imagination then?

  Pardew made it personal and it cost us. pardew has done great things but surely you can see his faults that cost us on occasion if and when his one and only plan doesn’t work.

• 36 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:53 PM

  why the hell did we need a dm when we’re supposedly chasing the game. pardew’s only ambition was to lose by less, that sucks!!

• 37 FollowFollow // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:53 PM

  Perch wasn’t a bad buy. He was a 500k buy which was the type of money Hughton had to play with. We’ll make a 300% return when we sell him in the summer.

• 38 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:54 PM

  seatoon i actually dont mind perch hes not cb n not dm hes a ryt bk n aknow ppl wont agree but i wud put money on it that if pardew giv him ago at ryt bk he wud b better than simpson

• 39 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM

  anyone see the piece in the sunday sun today pardew saying hes lookin fora defender who can play first team football straight away n not someone who need to time to develop or jus make up the numbers

• 40 boater // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:59 PM

  At the game yesterday. Very odd second half – I could have only seen us going on to win comfortably at half time but these things happen – West brom, Bolton away last season. The momentum swings and there’s very little you can do about it sometimes.

  Yes we played a high line – but then we were chasing the game. The same morons would be moaning about sitting deep had we not gone for it. Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea all dropped points at this ground – they are a better side than you give credit, and Dempsey was on fire – one of those games, one of those days.

  I have to say that the bile spewed on here from Indian Magpie and others yesterday was shameful. You sit at your lap tops and act as though you have all the answers – firing shot after shot at lazy targets and totally missing the bigger picture as to how well we have done this season. Yes the strikers did little but that doesn’t explain conceding 5 goals – we didn’t defend as a team. They are not our first choice front 2 – those are in Africa and in the meantime we have to make do with what we have.

  It’s not a case of opinions – it’s a case of flogging your small minded agendas again and again and again. Full of bitterness and jaundice and totally lacking in reason or a sense of perspective.

  Shameful.

• 41 seantoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:00 PM

  I don’t mind him either. And he wasn’t to blame for any of the goals yesterday. I just feel sorry for the guy because if we lost 6-0 and perch came on in the 90th minute Perch would still get slated by ppl on here. Mike Williamson was awful yesterday an so was Leon Best but no one seems to give them a hard time

• 42 stuart no9 // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:01 PM

  Ive heard everything now. Pards would like the england job. I really had to read it twice. After his inept performance yesterday , does he really think the FA would even mention his name.Because of his failure to act when it was obvious jol had changed his formation, we ended up on the wrong side of a drubbing because he simply did not know what to do.That was against fulham, what the f…k would he have done against brazil, argentina, spain, malta-yeah malta even they would give a pardew side a good seeing too, but then again it would leave a vacancy for a manager who knows what hes doing to take NUFC to the next level.

• 43 LewSpi // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:03 PM

  mattyNUFC

  I posted a stream on the last article, around number 45. It’s a good one too.

• 44 boater // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:04 PM

  Rotonda – Why do you have to turn everything up to 11 when we lose? You love it.. your submitting comment after comment, dining out on doom. You are ominously subdued when we win.. odd.

  Pardew got out strategised yesterday by a dutch man. But then, Pardew comprehensively out strategised a 12 premiership title, European Champion winning knight of the realm a few weeks back.

  It would be nice if we won every single week but it doesn’t work like that.

• 45 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:07 PM

  also hope guthrie gets new deal hes class

• 46 boater // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:10 PM

  Stuart no. 9 – I assume you are under the impression that Redknapp, Keegan, Capello, Hoddle, Wilkinson, Taylor, Eriksson, McLaren, SBR, et al. had ncver ever in their entire careers been on the end of a drubbing as a club manager?

• 47 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:10 PM

  stuart

  So Pardew can’t take Newcastle to the next level now?

  You reactionary ‘fans’ are absolutely hilarious

• 48 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:10 PM

  boater @40 great post sums yesterday up perfect n ya ryt fulham r a good team at home

• 49 LewSpi // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:13 PM

  2 days ago all of the ‘neggars’ were nowhere to be seen, how 1 result changes things.

• 50 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:14 PM

  cant believe ppl having a go at pardew were such good team now under him n hes already mving us up to the next level hes building a team n squad to b proud of

• 51 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:15 PM

  Its just plain embarassing. People always talk about deluded geordies, and we all deny it.

  But now 6th in the Premier League, 18 months after rejoining it, just is not good enough.

  And a manager working absolute miracles with no money – again, just not good enough anymore.

  Not sure whether to laugh or cry.

• 52 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:16 PM

  how crap nasri now lol

• 53 Wor Shearer // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:19 PM

  Yup, Nasri not looking he did at Arsenhole but then he’s not playing with Fagbigass.

  Not too worried about yesterday’s result, the table hasn’t changed, so i’m happy with that.

• 54 nicktoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:20 PM

  Ridiculous some of you lot! We r never gonna be a good team without stability! I want to see pardew oven at least 3 years before we start questioning him. Look what he has done in his first year! Those questioning him are deluded, probably the same ones that got sir bobby sacked!

• 55 GeordieJordy // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:21 PM

  Apparently this was our kits for next season? What do ya’s think

  http://s1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii570/rorykeegan1/

• 56 boater // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:21 PM

  It was a terrible second half all round. Shola and Best didn’t take their chances – not much service in fairness. Pardew got it tactically wrong (even though it was just a continuation of the 4-5-1 QPR excellent second half- no one moaned about).

  It happens to every single team occasionally. Suck it up you morons. The sniping on here after one bad half of football is mob like. You’re like a pack of snarling dogs.

  I wouldn’t care but it’s this kind of fickle mob mentality which has led to the non-stop instability and changes of personnel at the club that has held us back for decades.

• 57 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:22 PM

  if we were top of the league 6pts clear the neggers wud still b finding something to moan about man

• 58 Wor Shearer // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:25 PM

  Extra stripey home kit and extra boring away…oh well, we’ve had worse….lemon ice lolly anyone?

• 59 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:25 PM

  boater spot on that theres a little section of toon fans who think they kno whats best when clearly they aint got a clue about football probably the same idiots that keegan had it out with on the steps when he sold cole embarrising at times these numpties are

• 60 GeordieRob // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:26 PM

  Rotonda… you’re putting an awful lot of faith in a couple of 20 year old kid with a handful of games worth of experience.

  You think they’ll cover themselves in glory – anyone else could say they’re getting thrown to the wolves!

  But sure, fire Pards… that’ll fix it.

• 61 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM

  wor shearer puma cant win i seem to remember last summer ppl moaning there wasnt enough stripes on the strip, we wear black n white stripes theres not much u can do with that design as for the away kit is not a copy of evertons from a few seasons back

• 62 warwick // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:36 PM

  What a surprise good ol rotunda heights here piling pressure on a manager and a team that is having a great season and was missing their best players.
  We beat man utd 3-0 a couple of weeks ago and won our last game. We have now lost one and the usual doom sayers are back trying to stir things up. Pathetic.
  Grow up.

• 63 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:37 PM

  Boater good post mate sone of these muppets are a joke one bad result and they want the whole management team sacked??? Rotonda kadar wont feature fir our first team unless u watch him train day in day out shut up about him they obviously dont like what hes doing on the pitch also wat difference would ferguson if made?? A lad who most of you claim is a lb? He throw perch on to try and stop the amount of play they had in the middle

• 64 warwick // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:38 PM

  Rotunda prefers it when we lose because it boosts his ego knowing he won the same fixture on championship manager the night before.

• 65 BigKirky // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:40 PM

  I think once Ba and Cisse are in the side, Ben Arfa will actually have good movement and running to choose from when he makes his passes. Best and Shola are usually quite stagnant, more so Ameobi. Like others have said, when Benny picks up the ball, they tend to just watch him, rather than using him to make their own space to receive a pass.

  Better movement and awareness not only opens up more for the team, but it gives that player and other players more chance of finding better shooting positions. It’s no surprise Shola and Besty haven’t got many goals this season.

  I do like that 433 though is Ben Arfa doesn’t want to play wing. Surely Pardew is testing the water for a Cisse centre, Ben Arfa right, Ba left combo.

  Cabaye is used to playing the three man midfield for Lille isnt he? Tiote holds and probably Jonas as the other midfielder. Could work very well I reckon.

• 66 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:43 PM

  what was i saying bout nasri ha

• 67 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:46 PM

  2-0 city

• 68 boater // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:50 PM

  Exactly. One bad result from one bad half. One player on fire we failed to deal with. 4 wins in 5 going into this.

  It’s the hypocrisy which gets me. People slaughter Pardew for not playing Arfa on the wing, us sitting too deep, playing defensively away, playing Perch or Raylor, not playing Santon – he goes out and does what we want and it’s something else that he’s fatally missing.

  Rotonda never, ever, ever stops going on about Smith coming on (at 3-1 – check your facts RT) against the baggies last season, or Perch being preferred to Kadar against norwich. The fact he goes on about these two cases suggests Pardew is doing great – they are the exception which proves the rule – you literally have to go back to last season to cite bad tactical decisions.

• 69 Wor Shearer // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM

  I think Bale will be the first +£100m transfer…to Real Madrid or City I reckon

• 70 magpiebop // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:56 PM

  We started shipping goals around the hour mark when after injury Guthrie and Cabaye we knew would tire after coming back from injury and doesn’t seem a coincidence. Don’t understand the need to play them when Gosling, Vuckic and Abeid are 100% fit because these are the opportunities these players need!

• 71 BigKirky // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:56 PM

  It’s a bit gutting to recall us being heavily linked with Bale and Baines when they were in their teens. Great goal by Bale there.

• 72 stuart no9 // Jan 22, 2012 at 2:58 PM

  boater-@46- Im glad you asked that- of course they have been in that position before, but they learned from it,Norwich- liverpool WBA- fulham -clueless. the managers you mention at least would have had plan b, if that didnt work except defeat, but to not have a clue what too do tthe 2nd half is not acceptable. 4-1 down with 15 mins left- any other manager would look at ways to try to claw a goal or 2 back,-not pardew enter PERCH what the f…k for? also he should have acted a lot earlier, maybe 2-1 look at the bench , whos good for a goal maybe bring lovers on for best, who i can honestly say i never heard his name mentioned yesterday, – at least think of something. 85 mins he was on that pitch (best) A lot of fans blaming the players why? i think that is very unfair. if jol changes things , pardew dosnt act, how the hell are the players supposed to adapt to their new system if pards dosnt know himself and cant relay his orders to the players.they went in at half time a decent team , they came out a bag of nerves , dis-organised a shadow of the team that went in at half time.whats odd is not just 1 or 2 players lost their way- they all did. Did pards tell them to close the game like last week against QPR, coz if he did he deserved what he got.

• 73 stuart no9 // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:05 PM

  toondownsouth@47 it wasnt a reactionary comment. i have always said “as long as pards is here forget europe” and i have seen nothing to make me change my mind.

• 74 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:11 PM

  stuart apart from were currently in a european place n nearest chance weve had of getting europe for years your opinion isnt looking to good i would say

• 75 Toon-Barmy // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:12 PM

  Off topic I know but i thought these were interesting stats, regarding Newcastle Utd transfer rumours in various newspapers/wesites:

  NUFC Rumour accuracy:
  Fanatix = 100%
  Daily Record = 36.4%
  The Express = 25.6%
  Talk Sport = 25%
  The Independent = 24.1%
  The Times = 22.2%
  Daily Mirror = 18.8%
  Daily Mail = 17.3%
  The Guardian = 17.2%
  The People = 16.7%
  Daily Star = 16.2%
  The Sun = 15.3%
  Footy Online = 11.1%
  Daily Telegraph = 8.7%
  News Of The World = 7.2%
  Footy Latest = 0%
  Goal = 0%
  The Herald = 0%
  Inside Futbol = 0%
  Footy Bunker = 0%
  Caught Offside = 0%
  Metro = 0%

• 76 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:12 PM

  if this spurs city game stays the same not one team in the top 9 has won this weekend

• 77 jasper // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM

  The lesson yesterday was that we have to be ready for teams that sit back and let us come on to them. It was just like the WBA game.

  The attack are criticised, but despite the fact that they should have scored another into first hall in the end we got two goals away from home which should have been enough

  All of the Fulham goals came on the break. We have two of the slowest CBs in the league. So what is the point of a high line? For the last goal Collo was last man and as the Fulham player came into possession he was actually a couple of yards inside their half, which is just stupid.

  We need a fast defender competent in the air, and soon.

  (and I still think Krul got a hand on the ball when challenging Johnstone).

• 78 Rosted Pork // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:21 PM

  penalty to city

• 79 Rosted Pork // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:22 PM

  man city win

• 80 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:26 PM

  boater – thank you for your oasis of sense and perspective in a sea of absolute tripe. I love how the witless surge onto this forum after a setback, to expunge their anger at not quite knowing how the footy game works. The same players who did well only a few days before (when the neggers remained silent, circling their prey) are ready to be trussed up and beaten to death for a tactical nightmare – one which has worked well at other times, but now Pardew can see can come unglued spectacularly. I have absolutely no doubt he will look back at not just this game, but the string of mixed results before, and learn a lot about the bigger picture of his team and what he has to work with. This is his first real season, and the changes have been huge. Step back kiddies, let the thinkers opine!

  As for England manager, results like yesterday should tell Alan he has a way to go yet – if Blighty got coshed like that by Andorra his p45 would be on fire.

• 81 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:28 PM

  Jasper – more than that, Johnson is a savvy kid – Krul must dive to make himself as big as possible for the shot – instead Johnson sends it to the side with no intention of following. Watch it again and see him deliberately surge on, sans ballon, into the hapless Krul to manufacture the decision. Easy when you know how.

• 82 Toonboy_83 // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:30 PM

  Tsunki – stop making such a big deal about fans being upset about the loss; we played shocking, a lot of us paid money to see that match and we were let down by an effortless second half.. it was a very poor show. We don’t need all your metaphoric condemnations thankyou.

• 83 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:39 PM

  toonboy – what makes you think I’m talking about you?

• 84 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:39 PM

  Tsunki

  I think Johnson bought the penalty completely, but I think the ref has absolutely no option but to give it.

• 85 seantoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:39 PM

  Gutted had a fiver on 2-2

• 86 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:41 PM

  sean

  That is absolutely gutting haha! Was hoping Spurs would get a drubbing though!

• 87 roshan MAGPIE // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:46 PM

  how many more matches does senegal need to loose to go out of the competition

• 88 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:49 PM

  roshan if they lose there next game n zambia win they will b out

• 89 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:50 PM

  or draw

• 90 Arfurglassful // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:51 PM

  t00ntime // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:17 PM

  “haha you people crack me up sometimes. Some of you keep saying pardew signed Obertan so lets hope carr makes all the decsions. How do you know pardew signed Obertan? If I’m correct thats what someone said on here based on nothing but idea’s”

  I think you’ll find the “I had a phone call with Sir Alex and persuaded him to let me have Gabby” is evidence enough !!!!!

  Pardew wouldnt know a quality player from his R’s hole, Mascherano and Tevez are prime examples of a manager failing to work with talent.

  If England want him then good luck to them I’d rather have Rodgers or even Lambert ?

• 91 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:52 PM

  In a way a want it to be a Senegal vrs Ivory Coast final just so the boys will come back either delighted and firing on all cylinders about reaching final.. cos if they get knocked out straight away they will be leaving under massive abuse from fans and they will be depressed and might take them longer to start firing again… But on a newcastle fans side a would love to have them back tomorrow lol end of the day Newcastle comes first.. same as if we had newcastle winning the league or England winning the world cup ad want newcastle to win the league before england

• 92 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM

  TDS @84 – yep I have to be a man & say I agree. It was a no-win the minute he kicked the ball out of Krul’s way. Part and parcel of a bad day.

  also Toonboy – no offense meant to the rational y’know. I too have spent many a pound on some abysmal displays but I only regret the ones where the likes of Kluivert or Geriatrimi and the likes ponced about on huge salaries shoving it right up us.

• 93 Indian Magpie // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:55 PM

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• 94 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:59 PM

  Indian

  “Sporks”

• 95 Indian Magpie // Jan 22, 2012 at 3:59 PM

  its a fake

• 96 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:01 PM

  It was Pardews idea to make Ben Arfas deal perm soon as he came in… he’s persuaded the board the sign Ba… And Obertan is only young and he will get better he just needs to get used to the english game, it took Enrique and Colo a full year and they played alot more than Obertan has.. If we never got relegated they would of been sold straight and also because we went down it helped them otherwise they could of possibly struggled again

• 97 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:02 PM

  Arfurglassful:
  January 22nd, 2012 at 3:51 PM
  t00ntime // Jan 22, 2012 at 1:17 PM
  “haha you people crack me up sometimes. Some of you keep saying pardew signed Obertan so lets hope carr makes all the decsions. How do you know pardew signed Obertan? If I’m correct thats what someone said on here based on nothing but idea’s”
  I think you’ll find the “I had a phone call with Sir Alex and persuaded him to let me have Gabby” is evidence enough !!!!!
  Yeah you lot always seem to forget the third party problems with tevez mascherano and west ham nit to mention tge fact that none of the management team scouted or signed tevez it was a dodgy deal where a board member struck the deal with an agent not knowing the club had to pay compenstation to the third party ownership everytime they played in fact the half season they did play cost WHUFC £21million in compensation
  So dont spout to much BS about pards not knowing talent when your going on half facts

• 98 ge08dey // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:02 PM

  Wonder if Pardew will keep Cisse on the bench for 3 months to ‘bed’ him in remembering Best and Ameobi are playing er well according to Pardew.Get two new defenders now and we have a chance for European football next season.

• 99 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:03 PM

  Arfur

  Yeah… Pardew signing Ba was poor wasn’t it.

  And your comments on the Tevez & Mascherano situation mean you clearly have no idea about that particular situation.

• 100 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:07 PM

  Are people still calling for Pardew’s head or has their day release been revoked and they are back on their meds

• 101 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM

  Boater,

  I don’t know wher you get off calling people small minded morons. Sick of your superior, pompous, know it all attitude.

  If you’re going to be absusive and totally incapable of reasoned argument with anyone who doesnt necessarily agree with you, why bother coming on here and droning on in with your sanctimonious drivel.

  Nothing to do with people being in africa, the tactics were wrong. Accept it.

• 102 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:10 PM

  Tevez and Mascherano didnt play because they werent fit enough and the times they did play there were awful was only after a couple of month they got fitter and began to play well

• 103 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

  End of the day Pardew gets a final say on the incoming transfers if he wants them same as every manager with they chief scout… he tells the scouts to go find me players for this position matching this criteria and the scout does it and reccomends certain players with a higher reccomendation for 1 or 2 in particular then Pardew will either go an watch like he did with Cabaye or he will study videos.. then he will approach asking for such and such to be signed or atleast attempted to sign

• 104 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

  Jack

  No one is calling for pardew’s head, not me any way, but I just wish he would eradicate these frustrating blind spots which are preventing him making the step up from very good manager to top manager.

  As Jol showed us, you need to be able to change things when it’s not going for you.
  watchign all those goals go in that were almost all identical and not addressing it in any fashion was toe curling and then to send perch on, – what was that all about when we neeeded some more attacking threat.

• 105 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM

  If Pardew is tactically inept as many seen to believe, who was in charge when be battered Man Utd, or all the other games for that matter that have seen us up to 6th place in the league???

• 106 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

  Rotonda

  If you read the posts, there’s plenty of people calling for Pardews head lol

• 107 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

  ryt on this adrian mariappa anyone seen him play whats he like strenghts weaknesses got b honest i aint seen him play

• 108 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

  ge08dey:
  January 22nd, 2012 at 4:02 PM
  Wonder if Pardew will keep Cisse on the bench for 3 months to ‘bed’ him in remembering Best and Ameobi are playing er well according to Pardew.Get two new defenders now and we have a chance for European football next season.
  Grow up ya sad little boy who else is he supposed to play up front at the moment? Or should he say besty shola ya both sh1te or should he say they rhete playing well to try and get them firing fir the next few games where they are the only strikers we really have?

• 109 Benry // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM

  Well England clearly aren’t gonna go anywhere soon if they are seriously thinking about appointing Alan Pardew after Capello.

• 110 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:16 PM

  Rotonda heights – Its not as if he has many options is it?

  Our squad is far too thin and with Ba and Tiote away it limits what he can do. Strolla and Best were poor but who is there that can come on for them, Lovern is injured, so we are left with Alan smith or an academy player, the same for the midfield.

  Pardews hands are tied to a point

• 111 Benry // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:18 PM

  Please don’t keep saying it was down to Pardew’s genius or Shola’s physical play that we beat Man Utd. Fact is Blackburn already showed Pardew how to play when they beat them the previous match, and Shola was playing against 2 midfielders in defense. It would have been a travesty if we didn’t beat them tbh!

• 112 Benry // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:20 PM

  Either Vuckic or HBA can play up top with Best. We had both Obertan and Raylor on the bench effectively the whole match, and I would rather have them on the pitch any day than that donkey up front. But Pardew didn’t even bother changing things once during the shitstorm.

• 113 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:20 PM

  pardew best manager since bobby for me like

• 114 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:22 PM

  Benry – HBA and Vukic have never been played as a striker, and people have been calling for Raylor and Obertan to be dropped all season, so if either of them had come on then that would have been wrong, so either way Pardew would be slammed by short sighted fans.

• 115 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:23 PM

  a couple of defenders i think we should do fine and still push for Europe this season.

  I think the Fulham defeat is just one of those games that happens once a season. complete suicide. i don’t think we’ll see that again this season. its a one-off.

• 116 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:23 PM

  boater

  try and keep up. 5 points out of 27 was this season.

  Pardew gets all the plaudits and rightly so with results like manu etc, but it’s like we are not allowed to say anything or be even remotely miffed if Pards gets anything slightly wrong.
  perfume farts or what!!!!!!!!

• 117 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:23 PM

  rotonda – your reply to boater has just proved him correct. And what you accuse him of seems a little hypocritical, doesn’t it. He has an opinion, and sure you might not like it. You have an opinion, and I might not like it. That’s why we are here. What boater is talking about are the posters who are like the teen gormless who SkySports seek out for interviews who undoubtedly have passion for their club, but think that SBR is an alcopop. Dont rail against those who get upset at the idiots because you just end up looking like one, and that wouldn’t be good, would it?

• 118 Benry // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:26 PM

  Jack both HBA and Vuckic have experience of playing as the ‘second striker’, that is even what HBA desires the most! Yes fans have been calling for Obertan to be dropped all season, but the point I am trying to make is that if something isn’t working, change the way you are doing things. Pardew’s only response was to bring on Perch after we were 4-1 down!

• 119 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:27 PM

  toondown nsouth

  and if you read mine, you’ll see not me. I don’t want pards out as he obviously gets a lot right, but there’s this critical percentage or in easier terms called a lack of a plan b, which on occasion damages us if plan A isn’t working.

• 120 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:27 PM

  This dude gosso play in for ivory coast looks class but the match unfortunately is dull

• 121 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:28 PM

  davybtoon – Apparently he’s fast mate thats all i know ha

  Ivory Coast game is sh*t

• 122 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM

  Benry – It was one game and suddenly Pardew is clueless, the man has taken us to 6th in the league with a thread bare squad and there are always going to be games when things go wrong, yes it’s frustrating but we have achieved more than anyone thought was possible this season.

  Was Pardew at fault yesterday?

  Yes he was, but so were 8 of the 11 players that walked out onto that field. But as usual we go over the top with our reaction. We are in a transition period and if it was a easy as some people on here think it is then we’d all be Premier League Managers

• 123 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:33 PM

  we won 11 games all of last season weve won 10 already this season, weve been top 7 all season weve, we had 9 clean sheets last season n weve got 8 already this season stats prove were improving under pardew

• 124 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:33 PM

  Tsunki,

  Thankyou for your ever so condescending, super patronising comment. Boater will be pleased.

  I have no time for these chavs with an iq below 100, but I just don’t see how anyone can be so one eyed in this case.

  Pardew is a good manager, but he makes errors, such as yesterday. Some of us are a bit discerning and for the millionth time it seems, would like to see some pro-active or even reactive action in the form of a plan B when we are failing.

• 125 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:35 PM

  Benry hba may want to play as a second striker but hes not experienced niethers vuckic

• 126 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:35 PM

  JackB – I thought this WAS a blog for PL Managers

• 127 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:36 PM

  Tsunki – Then I shouldn’t be on here then as I don’t have my licence yet

• 128 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:37 PM

  id like us to buy 2 defenders now n then in the summer buy replacements for smith, lovenkrands n shola

• 129 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM

  Rotonda Pardew is a good manager, but he makes errors, such as yesterday. Some of us are a bit discerning and for the millionth time it seems, would like to see some pro-active or even reactive action in the form of a plan B when we are failing.
  I agree a plan b would be nice but yesterday was a freak result weve only lost 6 all season so i think were all blowing this result out of proportion

• 130 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM

  Rotonda – don’t get me wrong, I’m not singling you out mate or even disagreeing with you entirely – for definite Pardew needs to learn and quick but isn’t he still at that stage? Look where we are, and after such a short time, and with what many acknowledge is a thin squad. Sometimes he has tried his plan b and it works, some times like yesterday it circles quickly round the pot and goes down. He now needs a plan c – could that mean the likes of Abeid, Vuckic or other young ‘uns coming through, I dunno. Sorry if I’m being condescending but I thought you were being likewise with boater who didn’t seem to be trying to offend anyone sensible either.

• 131 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM

  I honestly believe that if we had Pep Guardiola as our manager it wouldn’t take long before someone called for his head or post that he was tactically inept

• 132 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM

  JackB – And I am only on here because I thought I could pick up some tips for my dad, Alan, who IS a PL Manager

• 133 check the toastie // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:47 PM

  Weird game yessterday, but looking on the bright side, i thought that it showed pardews intent in the first half to play football along the deck, all their goals were pretty much route one and all of the back four were culpable for switching off for each of their goals,(should have been dropping off as soon as the killer balls were about to be played, Collo should know better), gotta say the first half gives me confidence that when we have our full team out hopefully in a couple of week s time, maybe Villa or Wolves could be on the receiveing end of 5 or 6 goals.

• 134 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:49 PM

  Jack – Agree with you there mate

• 135 check the toastie // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:50 PM

  Must say i like Velencia, aggressive and committed, Arsenal have been poor against Man utd i must say, good news for us.

• 136 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:50 PM

  Anyways what about the QPR game…? Cabaye went off we changed tactics totally and we won and played alot better.. yeah he has no plan b though

• 137 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM

  See Leicester want Delfouneso on loan

• 138 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM

  If Man Utd get another 5 goals without conceding we go upto 5th ha

• 139 Arfurglassful // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM

  I’ve been critical of Pardwho since he arrived and I’m not changing my opinion just yet.

  So what, he beat a shlte MancU side with his PLAN A. Thankfully he had no need for a PLAN B.

  Its his failure to change things or stray too far from his beloved 4-4-2 (when available players in the squad clearly suggest alternative tactics) that those who have a brain (about football) are concerned about.

  As for Toon Down South or TDS Army (I presume you’re one and the same just playing bad cop bad cop ) if you read what I wrote PROPERLY you will note I said Pardwho wasnt capable of MANAGING talented players let alone buying them.

  Tevez’s record at WHU is great if you take away the time he spent while Pardwho was in charge. Scored his first goals after Pardwho was sacked and went on to almost single handedly save WHU from relegation.

  Pardwho is a puppet in charge of a side that Fatso creates with the help of a scouting team. Ben Arfa was bought in because he was cheap but way before Pardwho had time to assess the boys potential (seeing as he had a double fracture of his leg at the time) so let’s stop creating myths about his abilities to recognise talent and focus on the facts.

• 140 Eastander // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM

  @136 Arsenal game, 4-0 down and half time and looking lost… no plan b seen in sight that day either, oh wait!

  Definitely some people on here who just try and be awkward for the sake of it whether they believe what they’re saying or not

• 141 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM

  Well we’ve got a couple of not too bad fixtures coming up, although it may stick in the neck to risk experimenting in a cup tie maybe the Brighton game could be a good time. Blackburn away may be a good place to try consolidating our back line and snatching a goal or two. I definitely vote for the Aston Villa humping. Again haha

• 142 Arfurglassful // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM

  JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM

  I honestly believe that if we had Pep Guardiola as our manager

  Dream on sunshine, dream on

• 143 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:58 PM

  Arfur – kudos for standing by your epithet. So we sack Pardew and get a new manager (even though we are in 6th place). before getting say.. I dunno…random name here…. PEP GUARDIOLA (ha ha) what plan do you have for the teams morale in the meantime?

• 144 Arfurglassful // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:03 PM

  Eastander // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM

  @136 Arsenal game, 4-0 down and half time and looking lost… no plan b seen in sight that day either, oh wait!

  Sorry once again to dispel these myths (rapidly becoming folklore) amongst the muppets who consume every bit of spoonfed propaganda as though it was their last.

  The players on that day (yes folks real players not cyber morons) said that Pardwho told them they had let the fans down. Not him because he’d played into the Gooners hands but the players for being on the same pitch. Barton said all they wanted to do was “avoid a cricket score” in the second half. That’s the nearest you’ll get to a Pardwho Plan B.

• 145 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:03 PM

  some sh1te getting spouted today lads

• 146 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:04 PM

  eastander

  great fight back that day but arsenal did have to play the second half with 10 men.

• 147 check the toastie // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:04 PM

  Arfur – yesterday Pardew played a 451 not 442 worked in the first half, wheels truly fell off second half, dont even think formation was problem, just playing too high a line and having no pace upfront with Shola aand Best, away from home at the moment, we should be able to drop off and select people who will cause a problem on the break,

  Pardews Blind Faith of Shola is threatening his credibility,and potentially calls into question of how far he can take the team, he offers nothing.

  Liked the formation yesterday but think it should be tweaked with Best up top, and Shola coming on after 60/65 minutes. Obertan on the wing or bring in Abeid or Ryan taylor to make up the three in the middle with Jonas back out wide, but have been impressed with Jonas thru the middle.

• 148 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:06 PM

  who said we had a great second half against QPR i read it up the top cant be bothered to look, are you kiddin me nearly cost us 3 points the way we played

• 149 Eastander // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:08 PM

  well i’m sorry like but i’ll take a manager who can get us into 6th in the league but lacks a so called plan b anyday over one that has us in the bottom half, but know what to do about it…

  A good manager is not one who sends out an awesome team and wins, a good manager is someone who has the team in a higher position than it should be on paper, and right now I’ll take 6th!

• 150 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:09 PM

  team for blackburn then lads?

  krul
  simoo willo colo santon
  ober cabaye guthrie HBA
  jonas
  best

• 151 stuart no9 // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:09 PM

  davybtoon @74 – say that again in may. as it stands at the minute- we are not in europe and we havnt won anything.

• 152 check the toastie // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:10 PM

  Funny Game us having 55% possession over the ninety minutes yesterday, more shots and more corners, just defended like clowns for twenty minutes, i honestly think the players thought that they were so good in the first 45 minutes they just need to stroll around 2nd half and pick up the points, its like we panicked as soon as we went behind, might do everyone good in the long run, hope so anyway.

• 153 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:11 PM

  Good old warwick, bless!!!

• 154 check the toastie // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:13 PM

  By the way Simpson just doesnt fit into a model of a team who would like to play football, he seems to panic everytime he gets the ball, needs replacing for sure.

• 155 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:13 PM

  eaststandg1982 – looks realistically like the team although I might be tempted to try hba right, jonas usual and obertan at no10 spot? Worth a go. What about vuckic behind best?

• 156 Rosted Pork // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:16 PM

  arse almost scored . huh

• 157 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:17 PM

  check the toastie 100% agree on simmo but he will never get dropped tav should get a game against brighton!

  Tsunki i think jonas could be our best player in the no10 role

• 158 Rosted Pork // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:17 PM

  cumon man score more 4

• 159 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:17 PM

  eastander

  So what would you have done differently yesterday then to reverse what was happening.

  Any ideas where pardew went wrong or maybe could have done better.

  Or were you quite happy with how Pardew played it and wouldn’t mind that happening again and see absolutley no reason to have tried to do anything differently.

• 160 check the toastie // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:17 PM

  Would love to get a full back this week to replace simpson, and hopefully Shola slips by the pool in tenerife, hope Besty Greases the bottom of his flip flops.

• 161 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:18 PM

  check hahahaha

• 162 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:19 PM

  eastand82

  it’s things like that where pardew has done well. A bit like ginola towards the end of his time with us, when he was far more effective playing in the middle

• 163 Eastander // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:22 PM

  Of course i’m not happy at what happened, it was a crazy 20mins but it’s not like pardew can call time out and spend 5mins telling them what they’re doing wrong!

  It was the defence that collapsed, you look at the bench and tell me who would have made a difference to the defence if he’s brought them on?

  At time’s like that theres not always a great deal the manager can do, you look to the players on the pitch, especially as the captain plays CB

  Whilst I love Coloccini as a footballer I’m yet to seem him scream or bark orders at times like yesterday, everytime they scored he just walked away with his mouth shut

• 164 check the toastie // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:23 PM

  Rotonda, for me Shola doesnt start and that just lets everybody enjoy the match so much more, both Fans and other players alike, simple but effective. He started annoying both players and fans as early as about 5 minutes after best had done some nice work and gave a nice little pass back to him but he had already stopped to have a chat with somebody in the crowd about Call of Duty3, he is a joke, i dont know how we put up with him, he still gets cheered off you know, wow.

• 165 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:25 PM

  Arfurglassful 2 different ppl mate and read the post properly werent allowed to play them until the third party ownership was sirted for them to play leagally without paying compensation not to mentioned tevez was injured for a while when signed and how exactly is he a puppet? Was lamearse txtin him the line up he had to play??? The fact is we need some oace at the back and we need are best players back in fact all the games weve lost this season is wen were playin with key players missing we need more squad depth which is something weve needed for years not just under pardew

• 166 stuart no9 // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM

  jack butler @110 – ” lovenkrands is injured ” what was he doing on the bench in that case?

• 167 Rosted Pork // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM

  dammmm arse scored

• 168 Rotonda heights // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:33 PM

  class goal though

• 169 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:33 PM

  good finish by RVP

• 170 Rosted Pork // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:35 PM

  arse fans insane a big boo for arshavin

• 171 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:37 PM

  It amazes me that all season people slate certain players as not being good enough, and yet after a defeat they are calling for those same player to be brought on.

  You can’t please some people

• 172 Rosted Pork // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:39 PM

  wallcot knockd out cold on da ground

• 173 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:42 PM

  Arfurglassful // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM

  JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM

  I honestly believe that if we had Pep Guardiola as our manager

  Dream on sunshine, dream on
  ———————————————————-

  I was making the point that some of you on here seem to know little about what is happening at our club, and with such limited knowledge you would turn on a manager like pep guardiola. And if you are going to have a go at me ‘Sunshine’ either repost my entire comment or try a little harder to understand what I was saying

• 174 Rosted Pork // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:43 PM

  goalllllllllllllllll man u 2-1 up

• 175 ToonIcon // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:45 PM

  agreed JB Obertan has been treat like sh1t onhere for months now everyone sayin play him

• 176 woodsee // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:49 PM

  For me gutierrez doesent do it enough for me,he seems to be gua renteed 90 mins every game
  Hes either brilliant tracking back or great goals,but a lot of the time complete games pass him by with him doing next to nothing

• 177 Wor Shearer // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:56 PM

  @woodsee

  I’ll smoke what you’re smoking please

• 178 stuart no9 // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:56 PM

  jack butler @122 “pards was at fault but so were 8 of his players” so at half time we go in 1-0 up, playing decent. what happened in that 2nd half that made 8- not 1 or 2 but the entire team come out and play totally the opposite to how we played in the first half. I think thats a bit spooky that everyone decided to have a mare all at the same time, or another reason could be,- jol changed the game – pardew didnt know how to react, so in effect pardew couldnt organize his team to absorb the threat. Now if he dosnt know what to do and hasnt given any orders out, then how the hell are his team to blame for something that the boss couldnt fathom out?

• 179 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:01 PM

  stuart no9 – It was a pathetic 2nd half, no doubt about that, but did any of the players on the field stand up?

  NO

  But then no matter what happens on or off the field you and many more like you will always bitch and moan. We are 6th in the League for Gods sake. People calling for the managers head is just pathetic, saying he is tactically inept is pathetic.

  What did you expect us to achieve at the start of the season with a wafer thin squad?

• 180 Arfurglassful // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:04 PM

  JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:42 PM

  And if you are going to have a go at me ‘Sunshine’ either repost my entire comment.

  I know exactly what you’re saying, my point is that this club, with Fatso in charge, would never ever appoint anyone like Guardiola. They only hire puppets desperate for employment.

  One word of advice JB, DONT EVER THINK PARDWHO WAS APPOINTED FOR HIS RECORD !

• 181 Eastander // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:06 PM

  stuart no9 – if the players just arent up to it like we werent in the second half there’s not a lot a manager can do about it

  if someone had told me at the start of the season we would be level on points with 5th and just signed last seasons second highest scorer in the bundesliga I would be over the moon

  every now and a gain these things happen

• 182 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:09 PM

  What we on about?

• 183 Ben_W // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:10 PM

  @ boater

  You talk nothing but sense! Is a shame about the people on here talking nonsense but as a long time reader i felt the need to congratulate you on your work! So many people come on here and moan and say pardew’s awful or perch/obertan/whoever it’s fashionable to moan about lost us the game!

• 184 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:10 PM

  Arfurglassful – Going to have to try harder than that mate.

  My point is no matter who is in charge people like you and Start09 will bitch and moan about what happens at our club, Doesn’t matter if Ashley or anyone else is the owner. Some people are happy to moan and thats all they are interested in.
  Same type of people who called for Sir Bobby’s head

• 185 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:11 PM

  Dannyo – Basically clueless fans who will never be happy no matter what happens

• 186 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:14 PM

  Jack

  The way I see it, people form opinions of people in their minds, and those opinions never change. Look at Pardew – people may say that they’ve completely taken to him and changed their minds, but the second we slip up they’re out in force looking to burn the witch.

  Compare that to a player, like Cabaye or Ben Arfa or Ba, for instance – if they have 1 bad game, these people barely bat an eyelid, because they’ve already formed great opinions of these players.

  Pardew will never be given that respect by a lot of people unfortunately

• 187 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:17 PM

  Pardew out pardew out pardew out

• 188 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:18 PM

  TDS

  It just gets to me that some people only look for the negative in our club.

  People calling for Pardew to be sacked???
  Personally with the size of our squad and what he’s done he should be up for manager of the year.

  Then you have the people who all season have called for Obertan and Raylor to be dropped, and then when we are beaten they come on here saying that they should have played.

  Perhaps I shouldn’t bite, but the stupidity of some people makes it impossible not too

• 189 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:18 PM

  @JB
  Aha, u mean those who think Pardew should be fired?
  Those who can’t belive we play Perch at CB when we had no other options?
  Those who can’t understand why Shola is on the field, when there’s only Best, Shola and Loven?
  Those who hate Loven just as much as Shola, but call for him when Shola doesn’t do it for them?
  Those who hate Obertan, but is now calling for him due to his pace?

  Those fans?
  Those fickle, hypocritical fans?

• 190 Arfurglassful // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:18 PM

  JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:10 PM

  Arfurglassful – Going to have to try harder than that mate.

  So tell me JB do you think Fatso hired Pardwho because of his past record in management ?

• 191 stuart no9 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:19 PM

  eastender @140 bringing up the arsenal 4-4 game again, -Cast your mind back to that game half time 0-4. we come out for 2nd half, has pardew changed anything at half time, NO. The game kicks off after a while joey barton notices their defender, name slips my mind, starting to get a bit naughty. he seizes the opportunity and gets him sent off then we pull a goal back, and barton knows now that game is their for the taking . barton won that game for us , anyone who dosnt agree watch the game again he lifts the whole team and the crowd to get the draw. pardew? he was as shocked as 52000 fans in the ground , he didnt know what day it was man, he didnt know what hit him. full credit to JB that day.

• 192 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:19 PM

  WWJBD

  Yesterday when you said you were going to stay away from this blog, to avoid the reactionary morons – well you may want to give it another 48 hours.

  Unless you wanna join in? I’ll make the t-shirts, you start the facebook group

• 193 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:19 PM

  @WWJBD
  Good to see someone here with some common sense and intelligent arguments.
  I mean that btw, despite your comment, lol.
  I can read sarcasm, sometimes

• 194 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:22 PM

  Arfurglassfull

  Pardew – and obviously this is just what he said – admitted that the reason he was hired was because he told Ashley that he could manage the club on a shoestring budget, and within the financial restraints Ashley wanted put in place.

  No O’Neill, Jol, Hughes, Mourinho would have taken charge of this club after being told they wouldn’t have a penny to spend.

  So yes. Pardew was the cheap option. But look… we’re 6th in the fricken league!!!

• 195 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:23 PM

  Arfurglassful

  You are naturally stupid or your ignorance is monumental, and at this point i don’t know which one is the more accurate?

  I never mentioned why Pardew was given the position as our manager, that was not a point that I made.

  What I said is that people like you and stuart09 will bitch and moan irrespective of who owns the club or who the manager is. Which is fine you have the right to your own opinion, just try having a go at me ‘Sunshine’

• 196 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:23 PM

  @Arfurglassful
  I think MA hired AP partly due to his experience.
  I think he also hired him for his honesty.
  I think he hired him for having a certain way he wants to play, and for his conviction to do so.
  I think he hired him due to his handling of “big personalities”.
  I think he hired him for being a bit stubborn and hard headed.
  I think he hired him cause he’d work within the clubs budget.

  Can think of several more reasons if u want, but i’ll stop there for now.

• 197 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:25 PM

  TDS
  Let’s get on it lad to the twitterverse where all good ideas go

  Dannyo
  Haha I do try mate

  Seems a fun conversation is being had this afternoon though wonderful change from normal

• 198 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:25 PM

  And for the record I don’t care why Pardew was given the job, what i care about is that we are 6th in the league, higher than anyone of us could have hoped for

• 199 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:27 PM

  Jack

  I laughed at stuart09′s comment that Pardew cannot take us to the next level…

  Some may say that 6th in the league after 12 month is in fact, ‘the next level’.

  Can’t believe people call us deluded

• 200 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:27 PM

  WWJBD

  the Samaritans hot line was buisy so they’ve come back on here mate

• 201 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM

  I think he hired him so we can shrink his name to Pards and that’s a fun word

• 202 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM

  TDS – My head is spinning at the short sightedness of some people

• 203 Arfurglassful // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM

  Complete and utter nonsense from you deluded muppets. Criticism of Pardwho is OK or isnt it ?

  He’s here as manager of this club and we have to accept it but he’s no Mourinho nor SBR. He barely gets past Roeder in terms of NUFC win percentage yet you lot think he’s SAF, Wenger

• 204 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM

  @WWJBD
  Don’t stay away from the blog mate, if there’s a time there’s a need for sensible and logical oppinions, it’s now.
  We cannot be over taken by fickle fans who cannot see past their own nose.
  Some people just fail to see the big picture, we need you to help us show them how

• 205 LewSpi // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM

  What’s the choice of argument tonight then lads?

  Ameobi, Perch or Santon?

• 206 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM

  Arfurglassful:
  January 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 PM
  JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 5:42 PM
  And if you are going to have a go at me ‘Sunshine’ either repost my entire comment.
  I know exactly what you’re saying, my point is that this club, with Fatso in charge, would never ever appoint anyone like Guardiola. They only hire puppets desperate for employment.
  One word of advice JB, DONT EVER THINK PARDWHO WAS APPOINTED FOR HIS RECORD !
  Bla bla bla bla hes a puppet bla bla bla its all M.As fault bla bla you havent made a valid point yet you mug!
  At least with ppl like rotonda and stuart9 although i dont agree with there opinion they actually have 1! Your just spouting the same old sh1t cluess dimwits like u n planb always spout cos ya to dumb to form your own opinion or talk any sense instead ya just chat sh1te!!!

• 207 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:29 PM

  JB
  Haha poor devils probably got hung up on

• 208 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:32 PM

  WWJBD

  Why cant people just enjoy the fact we are having a very good season, better than any of us could have hopes for???

  Gonna ask Ed to out a health warning on the header of this Blog

• 209 jimmyxavi // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:32 PM

  ALL YOU FANS CALLING FOR PARDEWS HEAD ARE A F UCKING STUPID SET OF MORONIC IDIOTS!!

  We are 6th in the league… not18th like a few years back!!! We are not a champions league team like 2002! Grow up you idiots! You lot probarbly cant even do your shi t jobs properly knobs

• 210 Toon1978 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:32 PM

  We have been fortunate. Most of the results have went for us weekend lol.,

• 211 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:33 PM

  @Arfurglassful
  Under Pardew we have gotten the following:
  Ba, Cisse, Cabaye, Marveux, Santon, Abeid, Obertan.
  Outside Obertan not yet reaching is potential, and Marveux being injured, i’d say that’s some pretty damn good players to get.
  And being 6th after losing players as Enrique, Barton and Nolan, u’d never have thought that have u?

  It’s all there infront of your face, we beat Man Utd 3-0, when did we last do something like that?

  Don’t be so fickle and daft.

• 212 Toon1978 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:33 PM

  Pardew doing an excellent job. Long may he continue.

• 213 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:33 PM

  Dannyo
  Sometimes mate its just not worth it. What is the actual argument I couldn’t be bothered to read through all the tosh

  Something about Pards not being good enough because of yesterday?

• 214 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:33 PM

  Pardew has a higher win percentage in his career than Redknapp & Moyes.

  I assume that’ll get 0 responses though lol.

• 215 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:34 PM

  LewSpi // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM

  What’s the choice of argument tonight then lads?

  Ameobi, Perch or Santon?
  ———————————————————-

  Bit of a free for all mate, so take your pick

• 216 magpie6699 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:34 PM

  Toondownsouth @186 – you’re absolutely correct. I’ve posted about this before – it’s called “Prejudice” – and as it says it’s about pre-judging. Of course people are entitled to their opinions but for some, no matter what happens, those opinions can never change. I think some people actually dread one of their “hate” players having a good game or scoring because, heaven forbid, they might get picked again….and again… until perhaps they have a bad game and then all the hatred can at last be vented. Personally I’d rather give a chance to whoever is on the pitch – who would ever have picked Raylor in their team at the start of this season?

• 217 GeordieCoaster // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:35 PM

  @LewSpi Pardew apparently

• 218 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:35 PM

  TDS – Sticking up for Pardew is almost guaranteed to get you slaughtered

• 219 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:36 PM

  JB
  Cos some think we should be certain CL…for some bizarre reason

• 220 BelfastMag // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:37 PM

  Super Mario strikes again.Haha

• 221 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:37 PM

  magpie6699

  Indeed mate. And infact, getting such consistent solid (not incredible – but good & solid) performances out of Raylor is one of Pardew’s biggest achievements this season

• 222 bills-son // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:37 PM

  Amazing …

  The same lot who slammed Ashley for appointing Pardew are now having a SERIOUS discussion about AP and the England job.

  Oh the irony ……….

• 223 Arfurglassful // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:37 PM

  Talking of stupidity and blissful ignorance JackButler says :

  “And for the record I don’t care why Pardew was given the job, what i care about is that we are 6th in the league, higher than anyone of us could have hoped for”

  Its muppets like you who live in a black and white fairy story believing that NUFC is performing exceptionally because they’re sixth in a league which has nothing to offer past the top three teams.

  This is probably the worst league, in terms of quality, that I’ve known sinec the Premiership began,

  Sixth, above Stoke in eighth, is an achievement then is it ? Maybe you’re you’re typical of the underachievers who populate this board ?

  Personally I will never accept mediocrity – you’re more than welcome.

• 224 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:39 PM

  TDS
  Is that a fact? Well knock me over with a feather. I did not know that

• 225 Munster Mag // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:40 PM

  Think I was right re Santon. Enrique looks more comfortable defensively. He may need to move to right back ok?

• 226 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:40 PM

  I’ll get my dad to knockout everybody else’s dad…

• 227 jimmyxavi // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:40 PM

  Arfrglassfull.. you are a knob! End of!

• 228 dancer // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM

  hello lads!! love this blog (cheers ed). love reading all your views. this is my first post and just wanna say PARDEW ROCKS!!! ha ha. even tho i was filled with utter dread when he first came. but hes won the majortity of people over which isnt easy. long may it continue indeed!!!!

• 229 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM

  Arfurglassful – So would you like to enlighten us poor fools who are enjoying our league position, as to what we should be achieving this season???

• 230 GeordieTwo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM

  I still have faith in Pardew. One game is no way to judge a manager. He has done a tremendous job for us over the course of his time with us. I think he makes the odd strange tactical move (trying to continue to play a high line against 2 pacy strikers is strange to me, and not going to 4-5-1 after their first goal) but overall what a tremendous accomplishment to get us to 6th. We will have the occassional hiccup along the way but 6th or 7th at the end of the season are now definitely possible.

• 231 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM

  bills-son

  Have you actually read any of the posts? I don’t see any discussion of Pardew getting the England job.

  And still, is no one allowed to change their opinion? I was underwhelmed – as I was with Hughton at first – but they’ve both worked out pretty damn well so far

• 232 GeordieCoaster // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM

  @Arful I would seriously like to hear what your idea of acceptable is this season. Where do you expect us to finish? Is anything below 4th mediocrity for you?

• 233 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM

  My dads bigger than your dad

• 234 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM

  Jack Butler always causing trouble.

  Some things never change…

• 235 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM

  RobertNufc25 – No you wont cause my Dad is bigger than your Dad

• 236 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:42 PM

  RobertNufc25 – Can’t help myself mate

• 237 Toon1978 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:42 PM

  Finishing in the top 10 will be a huge step for this club. We have only been up a season and a half. What right do we have to think we are a Europa cup bound?. . What Pardew has done is nothing short of fantastic. He has done wonders with limited funds and brought in some top pedigree players which any club in the Epl would love to have ie Santon, HBA, Coloccini, Cabaye, Tiote and Krul and now he has brought in Papiss Cisse. I think Pardew deserves a huge pat on the back and and a thank you and a big sloppy kiss especially if our club finishes in the top 8. HWTL!!!!!

• 238 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:43 PM

  @TDS
  I didn’t know that, lol, but u’re right, it’ll get no replys
  Problem is, Mancini, SAF, Redknapp, AVB, Arsene, all do good and competetive jobs due to their players.
  Look at Arsene after losing some key players.
  Pardew has it in him, and he can take us a long way. His targeting of players says that.

  @WWJBD
  Yup, the same clowns who scream awesome sauce after a win, then wants Pardews head after we lose against a lesser/on par team.

• 239 TOONARMY4LIFE // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:43 PM

  At least te results went our way this weekend lads , we are bound to loose a few this season keep the faith aslong as
  Were around the top 7 when cheick and the dembas come back , will be an exiting end to the season! stay positive! Toon toon HWYL

• 240 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:43 PM

  @jimmyxavi: lol!!

• 241 magpie6699 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:44 PM

  Arfurglassful – shouldn’t you change your name to Arfurglassempty?

• 242 jimmyxavi // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:44 PM

  Oh and arthutglassfull… tell me the last time we won a cup?? We are not a top 4 lub yet… your that ambitious/deluded i bet you think you could manage the toon…..

• 243 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:44 PM

  WWJBD

  nufcfans posted it on twitter a few months back – they were all very close, around 55%.

  Got to remember that Pardew got West Ham promoted, and then took Southampton to 7th place in League One after starting on -10 points!

  So it’s not like it’s all PL.

• 244 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:46 PM

  For all the regular numptys on here.

  I changed my name from BelfastMagpie87 to this.

  Belfast Magpie is working undercover at the moment….

• 245 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:46 PM

  @Arfrglassfull this is are 2nd season back in top flight wat do you want league winners??? Get a grip sad act

• 246 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:47 PM

  RobertNufc25 – Tell everybody the truth.

  Belfast Magpie is in the Witness protection program

• 247 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:48 PM

  I actually like Pardew.

  There’s one thing for sure but,no good manager will work for those two numptys In charge.

  So were stuck with him.lol

• 248 Indian Magpie // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:48 PM

  Those calling for pardew’s head are probably still hung up from there yesterday’s breweries. Football is a result based industry and he has got results.

  in some games he has got it tactically wrong and his persistence with perch and shola has been beyond reproach.

• 249 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:49 PM

  Deffo think Pardew can take us there. At the same time, it seems he’s learning a few things himself.
  He tries his best to appriciate us fans, he says it in interviews, and he shows it by hiring coaches like JC and Steve Stone.
  We’re on a good road here, we’re 6th after 22 games, altho our aim is 10th. And people are going on like we should be in the CL.

  To be brutally honest, we need another 2 top strikers, an LW and an RW and 2 LBs and a CB. We need quality there, maybe more than what we have already.
  Then we can start talking CL.
  It’s a long way there yet tho.

• 250 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:49 PM

  JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:47 PM

  Im making no further comment.

• 251 Toon1978 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM

  Dannyo (247)

  Totally agree.

• 252 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:51 PM

  JB
  Fickle fans mate its what footballs built on these days

  TDS
  Aye but everyone has to start somewhere far as I can tell he has been relatively successful where ever he has gone considering the circumstances. Always tried to play entertaining football as well

  Also on not wanting Pards I didn’t, I wanted Hughton who didn’t deserve to be fired. Doesn’t mean I haven’t noticed how well Pards has done. Equally now I wouldn’t want another manager unless something major happens

• 253 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:52 PM

  Dannyo – Thats what we need, no doubt, and unless we are bought out by someone willing to throw money around with no care, its going to take time to get there

• 254 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:53 PM

  Damnit dragged into a sensible comment ffs

• 255 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:53 PM

  Anybody know what time Real Madrid Kick off ??

  I was lookin forward to the barca match thinking It would be live & now I’ve just seen they won 4 – 1.ffs lol

• 256 Benry // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM

  Ok on another subject, can someone please tell me why we always seem to get that stupid b1tch lineswoman cassie marrie or whatever she’s called? I don’t see any women playing football with men, why is she suddenly an official at games. She hasn’t got a clue and gets everything wrong!

• 257 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM

  RobertNufc25 – 20:30 mate

• 258 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM

  Robert
  What did u say as Belfast that u now are hiding from? Hahahaha

• 259 Jail for Ashley // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:55 PM

  I used to think sliced bread was marvellous,until Pards joined the Toon

• 260 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:55 PM

  @JB
  Yep, but if we keep targeting these sets of players, we can get there. I feel both fans and players feel like NUFC is an exciting place to be and cheer on atm.
  We’ll lose some of our stars, it’s bound to happen, it’s the way of the game. What’s important is who we get in instead.
  I think we’ll do well in that apartement.

  People forget that building some solid takes time, but tearing it down is easy.
  Building a house takes a while doesn’t it? That’s what we’re doing.

• 261 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:55 PM

  RobertNufc25 – By the way you are a cock, thanks for giving our the Barca score

• 262 Indian Magpie // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:55 PM

  in abt 1 1/2 hours

• 263 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM

  Haha, a good laugh:

  I’d 8-2 be an Arsenal fan, it’d make me 1-2 cry, Oh dear.

• 264 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM

  We do not want europa next season just finish as highas we can we aint ready for europa yet it would cripple our squad that should be our aim next season top 8 is a great target for us considering where we have come from over the last 4 seasons

• 265 GeordieTwo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM

  Dannyo @247 I like your thinking but would Ashley pay for another 2 top strikers? Not in this universe. We must bring in at least 1 CB and a decent winger for the right side and I’ll be happy. Anything more and I would be ecstatic. Even a winger and a CB might be too much for Ashley this window. There are muffled screams coming from his wallet already!

• 266 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:57 PM

  WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM

  Belfast Is working undercover Its all hush hush… lol

• 267 Jail for Ashley // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:57 PM

  Benry,
  To what regiment of the Taliban do you belong.

• 268 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:57 PM

  Dannyo – We have arguably the best scout in the game in Graham Carr and piece by piece we are assembling a squad that excites the hell out of me. With a few more quality additions and some of the youngster coming through we are in for a sold, exciting future

• 269 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:58 PM

  @Benry
  Oh, hey, don’t take it out on the women mate. Yes, we know women all suck at eyemeasuring things, however, she’s not any worse than what the ref in the middle of the pitch is…

• 270 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM

  The lino didnt give the first pen never put the flag to her chest all down to the ref falling for duffs bullsht

• 271 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM

  I didn’t want to know the Barca score either lol.

  Now I have to watch that dancing on Ice ffs.

• 272 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:01 PM

  Haha ah Robert no bother lad haha keep fighting the good fight

• 273 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:02 PM

  eaststandgeordie1982:
  January 22nd, 2012 at 6:59 PM
  The lino didnt give the first pen never put the flag to her chest all down to the ref falling for duffs bullsht

  Its hard to tell her chest is by her knees like!

• 274 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:04 PM

  @GTwo
  I think he would, but it would be unevitable to lose a star player for allot of money first, to pay for the new incoming players.
  I think we have to be understanding that, and the sooner the better. The club will be ran within it’s own finances now, and i can’t see many other ways to get players in.

  However, sell Tiote for £20/25 mill, and u have a new midfielder and 2 strikers there. It’ll happen imo, but it’ll take time, but again, we have to accept and understand that.

  @JB
  Oh yes, i hope it’s quite a few years until Carr retires yet If we keep going like the way we are concerning players, we’ll be pushing the top 4 in 2 years imo.

• 275 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:04 PM

  There was a guy who phoned TalkSport the other day, saying that the Gunners are poor because there are not good players out there unless you pay 20mil + for them and adrian durham’s response was………………………….?

  ‘Go and have a look at the last seven or eight players that Newcastle have brought in and you’ll soon understand that there are plenty of top quality players out there if you know what your looking for’

• 276 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:04 PM

  Jack – Remi street is one heck of a player mind mate he reminds me of a Rio Ferdinand back in his hay day with the power of Sol Campbell again back in his Spurs and 1st spell at Arsenal days he’s going to be some player for us

• 277 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:04 PM

  Wheres Arfurbraincell gone i was enjoying his insightful comments??

• 278 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:05 PM

  Benry
  Aye lad should never of left the kitchen! Trying to get into a mans sport! Could make the lads tea atleast.

  Sarcasm implied

• 279 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:05 PM

  WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:01 PM

  Just fancied a change mate.lol

  But you’ve just gave me a great Idea….
  If I ever abuse somebody under this name
  I’ll just change My name back to Belfast… Haha

• 280 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:05 PM

  Back to winning ways in the cup hope senegal finish 2nd in the group and ivory cost win theres then they play each other that will send the dembas back hopefully for the spuds game we will have everyone back

• 281 stuart no9 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:06 PM

  jack butler @179 when did i cal for the managers head?
  yes i moan when we get beat. – its called passion , its nice that it dosnt upset you.was he tactically inept yesterday ? yes he was. – what did i expect with a wafer thin squad. funny you should mention that Pards just said last week, when quizzed about asking ash for more money to spend pards replied ” no i am not going to ask him for more money coz i think he has spent enough” so that means pards was wrong to think he didnt need any more money or he didnt have the bottle to ask our owner for a few more bob. which one was it.- The same people who called for SBR head – sounds to me you have ran out of facts to back up your argument and has resorted to emotive language. one last thing you said in an earlier post ” lovenkrands was injured” i then replied ” if he was injured what was he doing on the bench” you didnt answer that question – do you know the answer or not?

• 282 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:07 PM

  Jb@ 273 its great to hear stuff like that!! Need to swap durham for that mug merson on SSN

• 283 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:07 PM

  GT89 – Not seen him play myself but i know that everyone is raving about him him along with Sammy, Vukic, Tavernier and a few more will no doubt be 1st team players in the next few years

• 284 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:08 PM

  @Robert
  So u’ve hidden Belfast? What did u say and who did u say it to?

• 285 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:08 PM

  Hilarious hypocrisy from a lot of posters today! Rotonda is apparently now a neggar!

• 286 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:08 PM

  GT89 should remi get a cameo against brighton?

• 287 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:08 PM

  Wonder what happened to Arshavin ??

  He looks a poor player nowdays.
  The whole ground just groans & moans when he comes on.

• 288 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:09 PM

  Support the regime, not your team should be the new motto!

• 289 nufc mad man // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:09 PM

  i have read lot of post on this blog today and the amount of talk aimed at ameobi and best being to blame well you should have thought this way instead of getting so hyper about a super team because when you sign africans then problem like this will occur during january and febuary.
  that was the clear reason i said i will wait till end of jan before totally thinking of it as a good signing so only got a bit excited about it.
  as for the talk we should get a new defender if you want it to be top class colocini is the defend i think we should drop next season because after the way result have gone since taylor got injured it is clear to say that taylor is our best defender because when he was in the team only city conceded 3+ goals and spurs were the only team to concede 2 that is out of 12 yet without him 6 out of 13 have had atleast 3 goals conceded

• 290 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:10 PM

  Stuart – I stand corrected on Lovern, but still, he’s been out for months so would have had little impact yesterday would he???

• 291 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM

  Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:08 PM

  Haha nothing mate.

  I changed my name on twatter,so I decided to change It on here too.

  New year,New start,New name ….

• 292 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM

  stuart no9 do you think 1 loss in 5 games is reason to sack a manager? Or a 10 game unbeaten run at the start of the season?

• 293 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:13 PM

  Belfast Magpie has the Russian Mafia hunting him down so he’s gone into hiding

• 294 Eastander // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:15 PM

  People who suddenly think Pardew should be sacked, that he doesnt have a plan b, that he’s tactically inept, all this rubbish, i ask you…

  At the start of the season where would you have predicted us to be now? If its higher you’re drunk, if its lower you shouldn’t be complaining!

  It would be one hell of a manager to get that team higher than it is!

• 295 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:15 PM

  @solano
  Aye, lol, about the negger parts, it really seems like the table has turned doesn’t it
  Claiming Pardews head… I’d like to see what other manager would manage 6 after losing 3 star players, spending £1 mill in the summer window in totalt, in the 2nd season after being in the Championship.
  Some people here are so utterly deluded and delirious it’s beoynd belief at times.

  @Robert
  aha, whats your twitter name now then? I might change mine to the same as on this forum.

• 296 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:21 PM

  Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:15 PM

  It’s just the same name as I have on here mate…

• 297 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:24 PM

  Robert
  Howay lad that’s half the fun is getting it back and proving who u insulted is a bellend haha

• 298 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:25 PM

  @WWJBD
  You’re not planb are u?

• 299 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:27 PM

  nicpthornton nicholas thornton
  @
  @RobertNufc25 Belfast Magpie changes his name after being named in the ‘News of The World’ phone hacking scandal

• 300 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:28 PM

  Who would you play up top next game????

• 301 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:29 PM

  Best with HBA behind him

• 302 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:30 PM

  oooop’s

  https://twitter.com/#!/Now_Football/status/161154911202058241/photo/1

• 303 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:31 PM

  Dannyo
  RUMBLED he is my helmet alter ego! Hahaha

• 304 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:31 PM

  You’s lot will be hearing from my solicitor any more of this shite…

• 305 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM

  eaststandgeordie – A would start him mate him and Colo give Willo a rest.. hes such a player and wont be fazed by making his debut for the first team, weve got such a promising youth team or young group of players now like:
  JJ Hooper, Campbell, Streete, Grant, Sammy, Fergie, Vuckic, Tavernier, Richardson, Henderson and im sure there is more also..

  A would also like to see Tavernier givin a start against Brighton think he will start unless we get Cissokho in tomorrow ha

• 306 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM

  Playing nicely today boys?

• 307 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:35 PM

  Jb i had jonas behind best hba left think i will swap it now like we missed jonas on the left as he stays on the left him and santon were starting to get an understanding and the change of formation spoilt it back to 4-4-2 for me

• 308 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:35 PM

  GT89 – How old is Streete???

• 309 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:36 PM

  My team for Brighton:

  —————–Krul
  Tavernier-Streete-Colo-Santon
  —————Perch
  ——–Cabaye-Guthrie
  Benny——————-Jonas
  ————–Best

• 310 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:37 PM

  Dannyo…glad you can see the double standards!
  JB hit the nail on the head earlier when he said the manager’s hands are tied somewhat and his options are limited – and that’s not just down to ACON.
  The euphoria of actually signing someone may have clouded a lot of minds and yesterday, after 40 terrible minutes at the office, the illusion has been shattered for some.
  Days like yesterday happen sometimes. We are certainly not as good as some proclaim on this blog and people may look back on this period as the high watermark for a team that still needs strengthening. One of the greatest assets we have imo is a manager who has proven that he is able to get results under difficult circumstances and generally get more out of a team collectively than the individual components would suggest.
  Yesterday, may prove to be (in hindsight) a good wake up call for our impending trip to Brighton – because I would love a cup run this year!
  What a “posser” I am

• 311 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:37 PM

  I should get over and watch him play if hes that good just wish pards hard a bit of balls to play are best youngsters like other clubs do if they are good enough get them in can only be good for them

• 312 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:38 PM

  Like the formation GT89…might want to swap Perch for another of our CB that’s can’t get a game….gosling, abeid etc?

• 313 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:38 PM

  See in all honesty were the f*** has Kadar gone??

  Injured ?? Not rated or what??

• 314 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:39 PM

  eaststandgeordie1982 – tbh mate, I’m hoping for a reaction to yesterdays game like we saw after the Liverpool game. Cabaye will hopefully train all week and be over his knock so he’ll start along side Guthrie with Jonas on the left in front of Santon and I’d put Raylor on the right with HBA behind Best and Shola left at the training ground.

• 315 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:39 PM

  Jack – 17 mate

• 316 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

  Ibiza – Aye mate a forgot about Abeid swap perch for Abeid give him more experience in the holding role and all is dandy

• 317 calvinzolamakongo // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

  I think perch should start dmf next game as its Brighton see how he does will Ne good to protect the back four with some pace and he Dnt mind a tackle and did ne1 see his turn that beat two players in the build up to Ben arfas goal maybe rest cabaye and have guthrie and perch what you guys think

• 318 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

  I though Pardew did well with introducing youngsters last season…perhaps that was just down to no depth in the team…deosn’t seem so interested this season…however…we are comfortably in the top 10…which was the objective for this season, right? We’re Newcaslte….let’s not expect we’re going to win every game

• 319 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:42 PM

  JB Sounds like the best way to go but i reckon he mite start obertan with raylor RB obertan knows what he needs to do now to stay in the team so could be a good game for him hope hes had a kick up the arse that he needed! i would leave shola in tenerife

• 320 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:43 PM

  That is until we get knocked out of the cup and we all blame pardew for not playing a full strenght team!

  must be a great job managing newcaslte…well, when they’re winning anyway

• 321 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:43 PM

  solano – our best 11 are a match for anyone, but when you starting having to rely on the squad because of injuries, suspensions or loosing players to the ACoN thats when we break down a bit. Pardew does not have enough option off the bench or from the squad itself but hopefully over time he’ll be able to add to the squad with shrewd buys and some youngster coming through

• 322 Troleibusiukas_LTU // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:45 PM

  We are going to win every game! And we will. Howay the Lads!

• 323 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:47 PM

  eaststandgeordie1982 – I think Obertan has issues with confidence, so its a tough one for Pardew to deal with, if he plays him and he has a poor game then his confidence takes a hit, if he drops him cause he’s not playing well then his confidence takes a hit, also 52,000 getting on his back doesn’t help the lad much

• 324 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:47 PM

  Lol @ Troleibusiukas….i don’t understand where we get this reputation of being dellusional fans

• 325 stuart no9 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:48 PM

  jack butler @ 290 So are you trying to say pardew put lovers on the bench knowing that he would not have much impact on the game if he had to bring him on.As pards never used him, at a time when we needed a couple of goals, the one striker he brought he could not use because he was not fit. Do you think that was a good idea jack?

• 326 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:49 PM

  Its up to obertan to get the confidence back and a lower league team mite just help him

• 327 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:49 PM

  JB@321…I agree! (though we have a glaring weakness on the right of the team)
  But when I say that, I get called worse than shite for asking for a squad capable of competing at the top.

• 328 Mancgeordie // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:50 PM

  Right lads can’t honestly belive you have people callin for pards head he has taken a team that finished twelve lost pretty much all his best players bar 2 colo n hba and turned them into a side with an outside chance of finishin 4th with a net spend of 10m calls for sack him? If we did get 4th he would be prob nominated for manager of the year

• 329 LewSpi // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:50 PM

  My twitter name is the same as on here like, it’s also my xbox live tag the lot, makes sense in my eyes.

  With regards to the youth, I think a couple of them are dying to be loaned out, i.e. Fergie, Vuckic.

• 330 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:52 PM

  stuart – In an ideal world we would have been winning the game and Lovern would have got a run out to boost his match fitness, but the wheels came off in the second half and Pardew got it wrong, but then again the players who were on the field failed to step up, it was a day to forget from top to bottom, just like the Liverpool game, but like that game we’ll bounce back

• 331 stuart no9 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:53 PM

  jack butler – my wife says ” if pardew takes people just to go and sit on the bench , she can do that -can she go????????

• 332 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:55 PM

  solano – It’s going to take time for us to be able to compete as we are not going to throw money around like other clubs, but with the type of signings we are making we will get there………………………………..eventually

• 333 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM

  Stuart – Putting Lovern on when we were conceding goals like the one’s we did yesterday would have been pointless we could have done with 10 defenders on the field

• 334 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM

  We are goin in the right direction just a few signings away

• 335 Mancgeordie // Jan 22, 2012 at 7:59 PM

  Oh my team for brighton
  krul
  raylor colo wilo santon
  abied cabaye
  ben arfa vuckic
  obertan best
  a 42222 formation i would try obertan up top his pace trying to get on through balls from cabaye, ben arfa n vuckic also his pace would stretch defences it well worth a try

• 336 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:00 PM

  Stuart – And by the way, tell your wife she couldn’t have been any worse than what was playing yesterday

• 337 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:01 PM

  JB…I still don’t buy into the “jam tomorrow” school of thought though it is obviously tempting to believe in the sunniest theory. Like I say, this could be as good as it gets under the restrictions we operate under
  As always, it comes down to faith and trust and I don’t have much in those above Pards. Maybe you do? We will see as this transfer window and the next one pans out.

• 338 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:04 PM

  Whats with these crazy formations newcastle with the players we have at the moment can only play at their best formation 4-4-2 thats all we have done this season why change it when it works

• 339 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:04 PM

  Play Perch Upfront he could be our Messi…

• 340 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:05 PM

  Nah on a serious note…
  I would play Obertan behind Best & play Jonas on the right Ben Arfa on the left….

• 341 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:06 PM

  solano – As we cant change the way the club is run we have to have faith in what they are doing, blind faith though it may be but time will tell

• 342 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:06 PM

  Solano…do i think if we can continue running things like we are push city or united for the title down the road? Not so sure….can we push for Europe confidentally each year? Sure (as long as we don’t just sell our best players constantly – one or two here and there is part of football).

  Still….it’s the best situation we’ve had since the SBR days and should give us a platform to push on from…if the powers that be want to of course

• 343 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:08 PM

  Anybody see Ashley ? He’s lost 3 stone.lol

  The transfer fee for Cisse must off been his beer money….

• 344 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:09 PM

  And dont forget that Ashley will still sell if the right offer comes in and we are a far more attractive option where we are now than if we were fighting at the bottom of the league

• 345 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:09 PM

  And his pie money

• 346 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:09 PM

  RobertNUFC…now that is dellusional…ashley giving up beer for the sake of NUFC

• 347 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:10 PM

  Ashley giving up beer, pies and selling newcaslte….not taking that bet up

• 348 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:10 PM

  http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nechronical/jan2012/4/5/mike-ashley-994036592.jpg

  Looks a bit like a flasher these days…

• 349 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:11 PM

  Ibiza…don’t disagree with anything you wrote there, though as you point out, it is all conditional on the will of those that have upset so many fans so many times in the last few years.
  Hopefully the Owner’s radical weight loss program has brought upon him a new radical interest in football achievment?

• 350 RobertNufc25 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM

  Now if I seen him hanging around outside my daughters nursery I would report it like…

• 351 JackButler // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:13 PM

  Also if we do make Europe this season or next Ashley will see it as a great way to advertise sports direct

• 352 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:14 PM

  Wouldn’t that be something Solano….maybe he’s lost the weight as he’s planning to join the squad….I can see Derek saying “here mike, if you really want to get in to the geordie’s hearts, pull on the black n white stripes and knock in some goals”

• 353 ToonDownSouth // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:16 PM

  solano

  For me, there’s only 2 things I ever care about for the club.

  1) Progress on & off the pitch. The minute that stops, then I’ll start moaning.

  2) I don’t get to many games these days (location), but when I do I want to see 11 people giving absolutely everything for the badge.

  Since we got relegated, those two conditions have been satisfied almost the entire time – and I’m willing to treat our Championship season as ‘year one’ of a new era.

  Although if there was a 3rd condition, it would be that the club behaves with respect & dignity – a condition which has certainly not been satified, eg. Hughton, St James’ Park, tapping players up, Lambias’ drunken foul mouthed rants, etc etc etc

• 354 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:17 PM

  on second thoughts…maybe he shouldn’t have lost any weight and could have sat in goal….try getting 5 past us then!

• 355 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

  JB@341…I couldn’t disagree more! Blind faith is ridiculous and breeds contempt! Much better to be circumspect and critical given the events of the past. If they are willing to take a different approach and engage the goodwill of the fans in moving forward then I will join in – but lest we forget, only 3 months ago our MD was issuing threats to the very same fans.
  And besides, the blog would be very boring if we just disengaged our brains and became regime drones.

• 356 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:21 PM

  JB….the other problem with blind faith is you wake up one day and you’re middle-aged and trophyless and realise you were duped!

• 357 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:21 PM

  Here’s a question….taking the fact we support newcaslte out of the picture (tough i know) which football club’s set-up (structure, ownership, management, scouting, press, etc) would you prefer?

• 358 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:27 PM

  Nufcinsider on twitter claiming cb coming in is Brazilian playing abroad n a fee of 4.5million has been agreed

• 359 JohnnyBrookes // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM

  I think people are kidding themsselves if they say they wouldn’t be happy with cwhays happening at city, I would be.

  But as its not, we are doing it better than those around us. Simple as. Best team we have had in years.

• 360 geordielad880 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM

  I cant believe some people are been critical of pardew, saying his tactics are terrible, and he cant take us to the next level, im disgusted, he has worked wonders on a shoe string budget, and has had to work with ashley, which he deserves a medal for, and has always acted in the best interests of the fans, he deserves a 5 year contract never mind anything else, if he got more money to spend, we could get to where the fans think we should be, but thats down to ashley not pardew, he has way exceeded expectations in my opinion

• 361 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM

  Ibiza…a question that could require an entire days worth of posting!
  Not sure the british football culture helps anyone. The academy systems generally tend to be elitist and “overcoach” the least important things and don’t produce what other countries do.
  Maybe the dutch system is the best (which Barca learned from under the influence of Cruyff)
  Germany is way ahead in terms of fan participation and ownership. That’s a start…..

• 362 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

  Well that’s what I get for going away for a couple of hours I missed all the fun, although I’m proud to have played my part in fueling the wind up, no thanks necessary I feel it’s just what I must do. So seeing as we are talking about the team again, I was just thinking that our lineup against Fulham wasn’t bad in itself it’s just that without Tiote it seems to have been totally focused in going forward with little thought to covering central defense. Just dropping back and letting jonas/hba do all the forward push would have kept our back line nearer our goal and stretched them out a bit. I know this sounds weird after being stuffed but I actually think Fulham were fairly crap and relied totally on that punt and chase, which worked for them this time, but their delusion will be found out in the next few games. Anywhooo enough about them, I think we need to replace someone in midfield for the ‘Tiote effect’ to kick back in. Who though?

• 363 geordielad880 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:35 PM

  For the brighton match I would go for:-

  ———————-krul

  santon——-williamson—–collocini——kadar

  obertan——-guthrie—–gosling——–ferguson

  ——————–vuckic
  —————————-ameobi

• 364 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:37 PM

  Solano….perhaps just within the PL then? I said it merely to point out things aren’t too bad at SJP….all fans have something to b*t*h about…..overall I am quite pleased with how things are going (at the moment)…however, i am only too aware that Ashley could throw us a curve ball at any time making him public enemy no. 1 again

• 365 boater // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:37 PM

  BenW and Tsunki – Cheers lads. I look at these message boards through squinted eyes after a defeat it’s so savage. We are all depressed about the result, but supporters need to take a breath and appreciate the fact we appear to be on an upward trajectory – if tentative and including the odd setback at times.

  Rotonda – my ears are burning but for the record, you fashion a decent argument – if divergent from mine or others – and I wasn’t aiming the ‘match day morons’ snipe at you.

• 366 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:37 PM

  Ibiza…West Ham have consistently been the best producers of talent in this country in the last 50years, given their relative size as a club. They have also generally been very supportive of managers and shown faith when it was needed and have achieved much more in that time than our club has! Having said that Fat Head Allardyce and his footballing philosophy will do more to destroy their heritage than any short-lived promotion challenge will counter it.

• 367 LewSpi // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:41 PM

  Davy

  Would that be Douglas?

• 368 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:42 PM

  Newcastle Academy hasn’t been run right in the past – hopefully it is now and as certain bloggers on here report, it seems we are finally producing good’uns. let’s hope so anyway!
  The point is, having nurtured new talent we need to use them properly and reatin their services – if it is going to be used to turn profits then I don’t really see the point. I hope Carroll will prove to be the exception when it comes to Academy products.

• 369 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:43 PM

  Had a taste of Big Sam running things…thanks but no thanks!

• 370 davybtoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:43 PM

  That’s what I suggested

• 371 geordielad880 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:44 PM

  lew spi, i really hope not because douglas as rubbish, no better than what we already have, i still prefer kadar to williamson, kadar if he has a run of games would do a better job in my opinion, williamson is good in the air, but he has no pace, and gets caught out of position all the time, getting too close to players, and gets turned, if you watched s.taylor and collo played together, they had an understanding, if one cb went to win a header, the other stood back, and held his position, and vise versa, and with collo and willo, they both are always too close together,

• 372 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:45 PM

  Solano….if we can bring one through every now and then that we can fob off for £35m (only to score a handful of goals in a year) that we can then use to re-build the core of a team, then where is the problem?

  I too would like to see a homegrown geordie running riot at SJP and not against us….but it isn’t the main objective at the end of the day

• 373 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:48 PM

  …And all that must be done in tandem with consistent investment in the first team in the “here and now”. Otherwise it doesn’t work

• 374 GeordieCoaster // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:49 PM

  http://www.shiteseats.co.uk/post/16296436970/cheer-yourselves-up-that-no-matter-how-bad-life

  Did a mackem actually bother to make this video?

• 375 ConsettToff // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:49 PM

  Ibizatoon (in response to your question about which clubs we admire) I would have to say the obvious ones are Man Utd and Barca, for the way they generate a new squad of potential world beaters every few years. Closer to home, figuratively speaking, I would hav to say that I do somewhat admire Fulham. Whilst I didn’t expect a complete pasting yesterday, what I’ve seen of them I have to respect: good manager, good owner relationship (if slightly nutty) and a team of decent players, so I wasn’t surprised that we lost yesterday.

• 376 Jail for Ashley // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:50 PM

  I dont really think he could have picked a better team,than the one he did on Saturday,maybe he will rest Cabaye next week to make sure his ankle is properly mended,if Ranger was fit I would suggest giving him a run out,but if not its going to have to be Shola and Best again.

• 377 ConsettToff // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:51 PM

  Solano, agreed about West Ham, some of the talent that they have produced has been unreal. Shame that they’re a selling club, and that their recent management has let them down so badly.

• 378 boater // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:52 PM

  Tsunki – Agreed. We have been outplayed and won, dominated and lost. Sometimes a confluence of circumstances just epically goes against you. It’s a rogue result – unlike Liverpool where we deserved to lose, and every season brings a couple. They are anomalies to be honest and over reacting only leads to a worsening situation.

  Fulham poked hopeful balls through the middle which showed up a lack of pace in our back 4 camped on the half way line. It’s not a sophisticated tactic and on any other day might cost you 1 but not 5 goals in 45 minutes.

• 379 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:53 PM

  Ibiza…your first question leads us full circle to the arguments that have raged on here for a full year, so forgive me if I dodge that bullet!
  And on your second remark, yes, you are correct! I don’t buy into all the “Geordie Nation” John Hall speak. The first team is of the utmost importance to fans who pay their money and the academy is only a component part of the club that could help the 1st team – it shouldn’t be the sole source of players.

• 380 geordielad880 // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:53 PM

  I really think lovenkrands and best should be playing together up front at the minute, at least lovenkrands has pace and movement, unlike ameobi, lovenkrands movement will help to create space for the likes of ben arfa and cabaye, as he drags defenders out of position, i know he isnt the player he was, but he is still very decent, and would do a better job that ameobi

• 381 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:53 PM

  Has the fighting all stopped now? Have I missed the rest of the fun? Shame

• 382 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:55 PM

  For a peacful blog…should i withdraw my question then Solano? Let’s not wind everyone up on a Sunday evening

• 383 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:56 PM

  WWJBD…it’s never too late to start a new one

• 384 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:57 PM

  Consett @377 – yes, they are a selling club. My point exactly! And that is because the have to do it out of neccessity.
  We do not and hopefully will not, but I fear we may, given the statements that come from the club from time to time.

• 385 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:58 PM

  Ibizatoon
  But then my application to the UN may have to be withdrawn

• 386 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 8:59 PM

  Ahh yes….don’t want to do that then!

• 387 geordielad880 // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:00 PM

  i have heard man utd enquired about cabaye, wouldnt surprise me at all, type of player they need, i wouldnt sell unless we got offered 20m+

• 388 Jail for Ashley // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:01 PM

  I am still in a state of truce with MA and therefore unable to comment on anything controversial.

• 389 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:01 PM

  Oh actually sensible question how did Tiote do at the ACoN? Ivory Coast played today didnt they? Or am I incorrect?

• 390 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:01 PM

  JFA…may be a good time to throw Ranger back in…see if he’s learnt anything at all…can’t be any worse than what we have for the rest of the month….we already have non scoring strikers (except Best who does occasionally do the job)

• 391 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:03 PM

  Disclaimer….i’m not saying shola doesn’t do a “job”, but not a goal scoring job. Not opening the shola bashing again

• 392 geordielad880 // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:03 PM

  ranger is out for the rest of the season pretty much, with an injury

• 393 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:04 PM

  Jail…grow some! The birth of your child has made you soft! I miss the old JFA

• 394 ConsettToff // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:04 PM

  My two cents on the weekend, and then I’ll let it rest.

  Shola is too unfit to play for the full game, or possibly even 60 minutes, so should only now be used as an impact sub. Nothing against the guy, loyal servant etc, he’s just getting on a bit. Pardew should know this despite his lack of options. If you elect to start Shola, you’re pretty much allowing the team to go down to 10 men by the time the second half comes round.

  Best was awful, ineffective, and if signing Cisse is supposed to spur him to greater heights then it’s failed miserably at doing so. Team was effectively down to 9 men.

  With a lack of striking options we had no choice to play high so that pur midfield could have a pop. Jol realised this and switched his tactics to suit. And this is where we get to the crux of the issue:

  Pardew didn’t switch tactics to combat this. One trait of AP’s that has become evident this season is his sheer stubbornness. He clearly does have flashes of tactical genius, but only in thinking ahead of the game. Look at Man Utd and Stoke for instance, both tactically astounding games. In both matches the game plan was worked out beforehand and wored beautifully for us. But once the match has kicked off, he sticks to Plan A regardless. Whether it’s because there is no Plan B, or because he’s too stubborn to change, or simply because he can’t spot the weak link when it becomes evident, I don’t know. I’ve a lot of admiration for AP, and I have to say that he has done a terrific job for us, but until he learns to either think on his feet or drop the stubborn streak (not sure which is the issue), we will have games like yesterday, and like the Norwich game, and these are the ones that will cost us dearly, ensuring that we can never become a top four side. I hope he learns sooner rather than later. Rant over…

• 395 Ibizatoon // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:05 PM

  Nevermind then GL880

• 396 hotdog // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:07 PM

  #378 – confluence – You must be educated

  If Ranger is out of the picture, i think Lovenkrands may be worth a shout. I like his movement and if he gets a chnace he normally sticks it away!

• 397 fgb224lbs // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:09 PM

  Why do people call us a selling club. Really what is your proof?

• 398 solano // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:11 PM

  fgb..has anyone on this thread?

• 399 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:11 PM

  davybtoon – I’d imagine that would be Douglas.. but then again anyone claiming to be an nufc insider is more than likely talking bollo*ks mate so i’ll still with the i want a suprise =]

• 400 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:12 PM

  Formica is going to Olyimpicakos we should try nab him they only want 3million and we seem to love buying midfielders hes only like 22

• 401 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:15 PM

  Jail @ 388 I’m in the sin bin too. But I still keep me daggers polished for his next cockup…

  was it geordielad who suggested a trial team? I admire the idea but I think Pardew might have got the squirts and may just put a ‘safe’ team out for this one, Brighton though they may be. Plus he NEEDS to get on track and sort out his plan b (oooohhh I hate saying planb!) i time to get results at Blackburn and Villa

• 402 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:20 PM

  http://i41.tinypic.com/1417a86.jpg

  Oh Mario

• 403 Jail for Ashley // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:21 PM

  Solano,
  Ha ha,remember its only a truce not a peace accord.

• 404 fgb224lbs // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:22 PM

  Sorry solanother i misread . That was about west.ham fair Do. But people have said it over abduction overagain and it has annoyed me. Ill shut up now lol

• 405 Dannyo // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:23 PM

  Ken @InsiderNufc 29m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
  Like many of you have said, Douglas is the player we want, all about personal terms now #nufc

  We’ll see, but i’m not convinced, i still think it’s Mbiwa.

• 406 Jail for Ashley // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:27 PM

  Consett toff
  Canny good rant,hats off.

• 407 ConsettToff // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:30 PM

  JFA, results went our way this weekend, so I’m not going to let this get to me. Thus no more ranting for now.

• 408 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:32 PM

  ConsettToff – Top rant mate I doff my cap also. That’s a good point about Pards stubbornness – a strength or a weakness? I got a feel of that i the way he has resisted accommodating HBA in the free role and even Santon in the RB position, possibly sticking with Obertan on RW when maybe just maybe he could be put in behind the main striker for a bit?

• 409 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:36 PM

  WWJBD – As much as i love Mario a really hope the gets a massive ban for that its disgusting

• 410 Jail for Ashley // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:38 PM

  CToff
  It will all be forgotten after another couple of good results and if it was down to tactics rather than just a bad day at the office,then hopefully lessons can be learned.

• 411 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:46 PM

  A reckon we should get Matty Phillips and Nathan Redmond in the summer or now

• 412 Sir freddy shep // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:47 PM

  http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=334259529939839&set=a.218811554817971.66286.215379335161193&type=1&theater

• 413 WWJBD // Jan 22, 2012 at 9:54 PM

  GT89
  I have to agree like love Mario but that has shown him in a very bad light

• 414 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:08 PM

  Balotelli as a player bags of talent hampered by a chip on the shoulder from somewhere. As a person I bet he’s a brat. Either way a liability as much as an asset. He’s a stick of dynamite – used for evil instead of good sometimes.

• 415 LewSpi // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:13 PM

  Mark Douglas @MsiDouglas
  Colo’s agent heading to Tyneside in the next ten days – by which time a Championship defender will have joined sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastl… #nufc

• 416 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:17 PM

  I thought Colo’s agent coming to finalise was old news?

• 417 Jail for Ashley // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:18 PM

  Lewspi,
  I dont use twitter,but it seems that for every thread or post or whatever,that is true there seems to be a thousand that is bullsh*t,is it worth follwing at all.

• 418 LewSpi // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:21 PM

  JfA

  I completely agree mate. Journo’s have got to make money somehow I guess. I suppose they’re fortunate in their profession that if they hva eno work on they can simply make stuff up and say it’s from ‘sources’ .

• 419 LewSpi // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:23 PM

  have no work*

• 420 Tsunki // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:23 PM

  Twitter to me looks like fishing for pearls in a cesspit.I shall leave it to the dedicated and discerning cos I know I’d drown. I trust you Must go bit exhausted what with all the barneying etc workies in the morning bright and early so nighty night and dont you fight!

• 421 stripes1009 // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:25 PM

  So Mr. Pardew goes off to manage Engerland and a certain Lee Clarke comes to manage his beloved TooN….no problem this end as much as l think AP has done a fantastic job, l think Lee Clarke is his natural sucessor. Sincere thanks for what you’ve done AP.

• 422 West_End_TooN // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:45 PM

  Be intresting to see who we bring in nobody knows who were after the papers are just makin up names so they sell the paper it makes you laugh a think it will be sum1 from france who we bring in not sure about that dougles id take him big strong CB have to wait and see the clocks tickin tho

• 423 Thump // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:47 PM

  http://www.photobucket.com/nufc

  You lads seen this? Chatting with the lad who uploaded them, apparently his mate was at a Puma factory, saw these and snapped a few pictures. Supposedly it was this seasons prototypes but if we got that home kit next season, I’d be a happy lad!

• 424 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:47 PM

  Really want mbiwa. Won’t be too disappointed if we get Douglas

• 425 Thump // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM

  Just noticed the slashes on the stripes… what the f is the point of those? =/

• 426 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:54 PM

  Magpies-till-d3ath – Must say mate ive never seen Douglas play but av seen Mbiwa and a think he would be an amazing signing proper class and is apparently the future of french football along with Sakho

• 427 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:56 PM

  A dont understand why they would do strips with our old sponsor onm Llambias said before that Puma needed to no the new sponsor so they could start doing the designs lol

• 428 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:59 PM

  Geordietoon- if we were to get mbiwa. Do u think we cud get him on a good price?

• 429 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 10:59 PM

  Lescott did that to Kaboul deliberatly aswell

• 430 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 11:00 PM

  Magpies – A think we could get him for around £5million

• 431 Thump // Jan 22, 2012 at 11:12 PM

  @GT89: Aye mate that’s why we’re thinking it’s the prototypes for this season. The lad who uploaded them pointed out an important point though: the green shirt (what I thought was the keepers) has short sleeves so it’s more likely to be a training kit.

  Could be next seasons…

• 432 ToonIcon // Jan 22, 2012 at 11:12 PM

  Magpies i heard Mbiwa is available for 5.2 million

• 433 ToonIcon // Jan 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

  this made me laugh

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2090344/Tottenham-offer-Roman-Pavlyuchenko-Newcastle-Sunderland.html

• 434 GeordieToon89 // Jan 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM

  ad take pav on loan for a few month like score goals and got a hell of a left foot

• 435 Louis583 // Jan 23, 2012 at 1:39 AM

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcGAUPxnX4o

• 436 gonufc // Jan 23, 2012 at 2:17 AM

  @GeordieToon89 very impressed with Redmond and it’s incredible that he’s only 17!!! Think he’ll be going to a top club though, United/ Chelsea/ Arsenal probably- would be amazing though.

  About Balotelli- got to admit, I’m still a little undecided on it, it certainly looked bad but I just can’t be sure. Lescott’s however looked very, very deliberate. If the incidents were swapped and Lescott did the kick and Balotelli the forearm smash then we would be talking about the forearm- just because it’s Balotelli.

• 437 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 23, 2012 at 2:47 AM

  What’s with us with the rumors about Mariappa? Since when we gone from aiming for players like Mbiwa to Mariappa in matter of weeks?

  =(

• 438 TemuriKetsbaia // Jan 23, 2012 at 6:09 AM

  Mariappa is a late developer, Kinda like Jaap Stam, If you knew anything about football you would know he has the potential to be world class. Jesus! (exasperated) *facepalm*

• 439 Rotonda heights // Jan 23, 2012 at 6:17 AM

  jaap stam was much taller wasn’t he. This guy is only5 ft 11”

• 440 Rotonda heights // Jan 23, 2012 at 6:23 AM

  consett toff

  excellent rational thought out comment.

• 441 TemuriKetsbaia // Jan 23, 2012 at 6:29 AM

  @Rotonda

  Taking the piss – we’re not in for Mariappa… he’s not fit to brush Colo’s hair.

• 442 cyprus // Jan 23, 2012 at 6:33 AM

  So Mr. AP,
  What went wrong now? How did we lose a game we totally dominated for 45′?
  1) They made an important change (put on Johnson), which gave them extra speed, thus rendering our high line vulnerable. We got a friendly warning when Santon was almost sent off. How should we have reacted? Hmm. Well, not play such a high line?
  2) We played a whole game with 10 men. Previous posters said it’s a team game so one person cannot be blamed, but, 90% of the time, 10 vs. 11 the 11 win. After just 8 minutes (when Best played a sweet through ball in the hole and, of course, he didn’t run for it) he should have been substituted, by anyone.
  3) AP. Why did you throw in the towel with 20 minutes remaining?! Damage control? Do top teams even consider that? The way their goals went in, we could’ve done another Arsenal. Putting on Perch and Taylor (while STILL playing with 10 men!) is not exactly match-turning tactics.

  Incredibly, there were some positives to get from the performance:
  1) Best on the left. Good call. When our two forwards come back, where will a player of Best’s quality be playing? That looks like a good experiment which I think will work, with goals too.
  2) Guti, HBA partnership. The commentators noticed how deadly this combination can be. Two tricky, unpredictable, top players who could terrorise, well anyone. Continue this experiment, AP, it will blossom, while producing moments of magic.
  3) Who needs Tiote? Kidding, but Guthrie has been great. Prowling all over mid-field and capping that with a wonder goal which unfortunately will be forgotten.

• 443 Indian Magpie // Jan 23, 2012 at 6:45 AM

  cyprus

  i agree but best on the left, no way, we have far superior players. bet should be on the bench as much as possible

• 444 Indian Magpie // Jan 23, 2012 at 6:46 AM

  *best should be on the bench as much as possible

• 445 BRABOT // Jan 23, 2012 at 6:55 AM

  For WWJBD
  C.I Soudan 1.0
  Goal from Drogba
  Tiote a ete remplacé a la 80 minute

• 446 TemuriKetsbaia // Jan 23, 2012 at 6:59 AM

  Cyprus. Don’t think you can blame Pards.

  He may have made a tactical error- dunno I’m not arrogant enough to suggest I’m a football geek.

  The main problem was something I haven’t seen from our players upto know. The pen went in and we turned to shit. Then we gave up.

  Thats the players mentality… you can’t affect that from the sideline.

  We bought Cabaye etc based on their ability and reaction to being up against it, HBA and Jonas were the only ones still giving it some… even at 2-1.

• 447 cyprus // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:00 AM

  Indian,
  I disagree. Best can score goals of the highest level (e.g. See QPR), he has surprising turn of speed, he has good control and can read the game. And he can get us points. ie. not bench warmer quality! A couple of days ago, he thought he had a partner, you know who, but sadly he didn’t!

• 448 cyprus // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:02 AM

  Temuri,
  you are right of course. It is up to the players once you put them out there. But my concern is, AP didn’t react to what was happening on the pitch. He stuck to a plan which could’ve been changed.

• 449 TemuriKetsbaia // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:04 AM

  Shola played well in the first half and wasn’t as bad as he’s getting slated for in the 2nd.

  It’s shameful slagging your own players. Sholawas our best optio and did ok.

  Santon Willo and Colo were especially useless in the 2nd half but everyone was generally cack.

• 450 cyprus // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:13 AM

  Temuri,

  Of course, you just slagged your own players dude! And that’s ok, they get paid enough, they are public figures, it’s part and parcel of the job. Again though, you do have a point. Still, how many years can one be patient with him? There must be something there, so many coaches pick him. So who am I to disagree. Of course, his goal scoring lack of instinct cannot be disputed, it’s there for all to see. How about his application? People like Rooney go on goal scoring droughts but they run all over to make up for it…Perhaps it’s the frequent injuries, I don’t know. But, frankly, nice loyal lad though he is, I’d bench him permanently. Just not up to prem level, sadly.

• 451 PontiusLee // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:13 AM

  ive been reading this blog on daily basis for about a year now. but this is the first comment ive ever written.
  Firstoff. ED great stuff. youre a legend.
  2nd. who else opposes this starting lineup
  krul
  simpson. colo. willaimson. santon
  tiote.
  guthrie. cabaye.
  ben arfa. cisse.
  ba.

• 452 cyprus // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:18 AM

  Pontius,
  Welcome to the blog!
  2nd, I oppose that. Jonas gets picked right after Ba and HBA…

• 453 TemuriKetsbaia // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:21 AM

  He’s a decent target man. Looks lazy but in reality is just not very mobile. No-one ever said here is Shola ameobi he’s quick agile and scores 20goals a season.

  He’s a beast who holds the ball up bullies defenders and flicks the ball on for better strikers to score.

  Have a go at the team by all means (only fulham and WBA results have I done so) but don’t aim it at one player just because of his playing style.

  Santon is a Newcastle fans style of player -I think he’s class. But he was utter garbage on Saturday and yet Shola gets all this bile and hatred – it’s not on.

• 454 TemuriKetsbaia // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:22 AM

  @ PL

  Welcome

• 455 TemuriKetsbaia // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:26 AM

  @ PL

  Cisse will be playing on thshoulder of the last defender with Ba as target man. 4-4-2 Tiote and Cab can handle the work rate.

• 456 PontiusLee // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:35 AM

  i mean. i can see good things on both sides.
  but honestly i dont rate jonas that highly.
  he tracks back alright but i would rather see ryan taylor on the left wing.
  yeah i said it. ryan taylor.
  he is without a doubt a much better defender. midfield is his main position. he and santon can switch if needed. and he wont lose the ball and flop around the way jonas does. his crosses are better as well. just a thought.
  so ok 4-4-2 it is. but raylor > jonas for me. or atleast give it a shot and prove me (terribly) wrong.
  guthrie is class though. if he is healthy he deserves to start somewhere. cabaye guthrie and tiote would be an incredible midfield would it not?

• 457 Indian Magpie // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:36 AM

  TemuriKetsbaia

  sorry to say but shola ameobi is CRAP, i have not made my opinion based on this season but on 11 seasons.

  Going by loyalty, well dogs are loyal, we should have them, they have pace and will scare the livingdaylihts out of opposition players as well.

• 458 cyprus // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:38 AM

  Temuri,
  I respect your opinion but do disagree. A CF must be able to score goals etc. etc. Won’t go on with this point, I appreciate what you say.

• 459 TemuriKetsbaia // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:43 AM

  Indian `Magpie

  I am well aware of what you think of Shola.

  Just remember that he is a Geordie. He cares as much about NUFC as you and he does a job that no-ne else does in our squad. He doesn’t play badly deliberately he just isn’t as good as you want him to be.

  Abuse towards your own players is counterproductive and above all embarrassing. We should support our team.

• 460 PontiusLee // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:43 AM

  @indiandmagpie.
  i couldnt agree with you more.
  honestly shola is terrible. he doesnt know what he is doing atleast 80% of the time. terrible hold up man too in my opinion. why? uhhhh cause he cant control the ball when it gets to his feet. sure there are glimmers but… cmon.
  i can bare him coming in as an impact sub and going 110% for the minutes he plays (but he wont)
  but there is absolutely no way he should be a starter.

• 461 Indian Magpie // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:48 AM

  If mediocrity is what we desire tah shola will definitely lead us there. you can see for thyself how many points have we won with shola in the team as a starter and QPR at home does not count

• 462 PontiusLee // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:49 AM

  but its not abuse.
  i would never cheer against our players.
  but as fans i believe there is room to speak on a players performance. if someone plays like garbage we dont rub it in their faces, but there should be room for critique, in the most positive way.
  as fans we have to be the 12th man on the pitch. but that doesnt mean we lie and say that our players are great when they play like trash. our reaction should be positive, but also should motivate our players to get their act together.

• 463 TemuriKetsbaia // Jan 23, 2012 at 7:59 AM

  @PL

  My point is EVERYONE was useless in the 2nd half against Fulham. All I hear is Shola is shit.

  Yeah I know he’s not Alan Shearer. But he does a job. I know he does. Pards knows he does and about 10 other managers thought the same.

  You can critique players. Colo was shocking against Fulham 2nd half. However he’s been our rock all season. Santon I thinkis clash but was useless vs Fulham as was Krul and Willo etc etc

  Who else can play the target man role? No-one because Ba’s at ACN. Shocking behaviour.

• 464 Puppet Pardew // Jan 23, 2012 at 9:28 AM

  I’ve got no strings
  To hold me down
  To make me fret, or make me frown
  I had strings
  But now I’m free
  There are no strings on me

  Hi-ho the me-ri-o
  That’s the only way to go
  I want the world to know
  Nothing ever worries me

  I’ve got no strings
  So I have fun
  I’m not tied up to anyone
  They’ve got strings
  But you can see
  There are no strings on me