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Alan Pardew – We Weren’t Threatening Enough In Front Of Goal

9:53 pm, Saturday, January 28th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 210 Comments

Alan  Pardew rightly thought his side were not threatening enough in front of  goal this afternoon at Brighton , when Newcastle went out of the FA Cup with a late own goal by Mike Williamson.

Alan Pardew we did not take our chances

Pardw  felt his side lacked any threat in front of goal, and he’s right about that, because Shola Ameobi and Leon Best didn’t look at all sharp  this afternoon.

The sooner Newcastle start Demba Ba and Papiss Cisse up front the better, and Alan Pardew should be on the phone to the Senegal manager, requesting that neither  striker should  play tomorrow night against Libya, so they are ready for the Wednesday  night game at Blackburn Rovers.

After all Senegal are already  out of the competition having lost their first two games in Group A of the African Cup of  Nations, and Newcastle do pay their wages.

If Demba Ba had been playing this afternoon, we could have  been 2-0 up at half-time, but we struggled to have any threat up front at all at Brighton, with Leon Best and Shola Ameobi looking anything but in good form in front of goal.

After the game Alan Pardew had to admit Newcastle had failed to take their chances:

I felt we werent threatening their goal enough. They defended well, Brighton, to be fair to them.

We had a good grip of the game in the first half, we felt comfortable. We just struggled to get more shots on goal, to get more chances.

But just before the 90 minutes was up Newcastle should have had a penalty, when Ashley Barnes  handled the ball to stop a Yohan Cabaye shot, but the referee didn’t give the penalty – and yes –  just our luck!

Pardew talked about the incident:

We havent had one of them all year so we werent expecting one today. I cant really fault my players too much in terms of the commitment they have shown.

It’s the second terrible  result and poor performance in the last two games, and we hope Newcastle will do a lot better against Blackburn Rovers at Ewood Park on Wednesday evening.

And a little plea to Alan – please start both Demba Ba and Papiss Cisse on Wednesday night – please!

We might even to be able to win the game.

Howay The Lads!!



Tags: Coaching · FA Cup · Newcastle News



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210 responses so far ↓

  • 1 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 9:54 PM

    @daztoon just 2 weeks ago pardew was the best since SBR…

  • 2 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 9:56 PM

    It’s hard to be threatening when the man he made captain for the day has a turning circle of an oil tanker and our most creative outlet was put wide right?
    And to add to that simpson was beyond poor along with Jonas

  • 3 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 9:57 PM

    After perch solid display tonight I say we give him another go at ryt back instead of Simpson

  • 4 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    A reckon the players need a kick up the a*se but then when you think about it the players will be taking the positions for granted because they know they cant get dropped because we aint got anyone ready and good enough to step in yet

  • 5 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 9:59 PM

    There’s nothing with that formation the problem is the players in it shola can’t play the loan striker n u need Ben arfa obertan n vukic the 3 in behind best who works his arse off as the loan striker

  • 6 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 9:59 PM

    davybtoon – Perch started his career with us at RB and was dreadfull hes better in the centre wether that be CDM or CB but Willo was pap today a would leave him out give him a rest keep Simo RB and have Perch and Colo CB if Colo is fit if not then well mayaswel not turn up

  • 7 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:00 PM

    joke about not turning up btw!

  • 8 daztoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    @t00ntime
    Maybe to you but will never be in the same league as the great Sir Bobby.

    @davybtoon
    agree Simpson is poor or play tavernier looks a far better fullback

  • 9 RobertNufc25 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    I blame Jack Butler.

  • 10 Scottishtoon95 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    GT89 – couldn’t agree more

  • 11 Jail for Ashley // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    I thought this last game against Fulham,and after watching Best put that header wide,I feel fully vindicated in thinking that if ya two strikers are not doing the business and never look like doing the business,it must have a knock on effect to the rest of the team,Boater if ya on ,surely you must be getting sick of defending Best and Shola that was a performance down to not putting chances away.

  • 12 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    SBR is better -_- we all know that… what I said was best since SBR which means better then every manager after SBR…

  • 13 RobertNufc25 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    I would just keep Perch at centre back or Play him in front of the back four.

    Apart from the Norwich game,Perch has done quite well when he’s came into the team this season.

  • 14 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:06 PM

    GT89 – Jonas has been poor for the most part since Marveuax picked up his injury, Simpson though he’s improved this season I still believe we should have Tavernier in the squad to put him under pressure, too many players are playing without the fear of being dropped as they know that there is no one to come in for them

  • 15 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    RobertNufc25 – Its all my fault, just blame me for everything ;)

  • 16 partizanovec // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    I will forget this no-show if we show passion and determination at Ewood, whatever the outcome from there is. No one complains when losing in a fighting battle, but today our attitude was far from professional.

  • 17 Scottishtoon95 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    Vuckic was originally a CF why couldnt we have tried him there tonight in a 433 formation with HBA on LW and obertan RW, Cabaye, Guthrie and jonas in CM and the unfortunately without colo the same defence, except since simpson was rubbish, bring raylor in at half time to provide good crosses and through-balls. What do others think?

  • 18 RobertNufc25 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    Jonas has been poor from he got his new contract.

    It’s about time young Ferguson was given a chance.

  • 19 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    Jb spot on there’s to many players who kno no matter how bad they play they won’t b dropped n that’s not good u need the fear of bein replaced n frankly sholas last 2 performances knowin ba n cisse r comin bk hav been shocking

  • 20 nufc mad man // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    logging off now to try forgetting today but i guess this is the final piece of the jicksaw on how good our squad really is and so far i think only 4 would be good enough for a champions league or late europa league game and 5 i think it is too early to say but the rest are ether cover or no use at all
    and those 4 good eough are krul saylor tiote ba
    and the 5 too early to say are santon cabaye obatan cisse HBA.
    but look on the bright side atleast we are not
    no.1 during these last few games unlike our england cricket team 2-0 down what a discrace they were. lol

  • 21 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    Jack – Agreed mate thats wha a was trying to say in one me other comments haha, Jonas has been really poor he cant even run anymore he wants to get on a diet and learn how to sprint again let alone learn how to cross a ball ha.. Cant wait for Marveaux to get back and hopefully he’ll stay fit and never ever ever get another injury or niggle =] some player he is ha

  • 22 daztoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    @t00ntime
    Why is he better.Yes we have some good players but down to Carr not Pardew.If someone like Wenger had Hba,Cabaye i`m sure they would be playing the ball to feet and pass and move not hoof ball

  • 23 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    nufc mad man – Colo is easily good enough for champ league team

  • 24 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    Davy – I honestly thought that with both Cisse and Ba away, Sholla would put in the performances of a player that is playing for his future, but instead he played like a player who knows his time is up.

    For me I’d drop Jonas and play Fergie, I’d drop Simpson and put Tavernier in and I’d just drop Sholla and play with 10 men if need be

  • 25 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    If we actually played football instead of hoofball we’d win loads because we’d be playing to our players strengths… Colo/Santon/Cabaye/Guthrie/Benny/Jonas/Ba/Cisse all of them are actuall footballing players

  • 26 SmithyyToon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    To be fair, you guys are being way too harsh to the lads. We are sitting 6th in the table and you’re going mental about not progressing in a cup where lets face it, we probably wouldn’t win. Focus on the league is what I says and yes, maybe we should have won today but the team played alright, just lacking 2 strikers with the capapbility to finish. But our strikers are returning soon so don’t get your hopes down !

  • 27 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    Jack – A personally think Tavernier is ready and imo a think he’s better than Simpson.. hes quicker, better at going forward, solid defender, stronger ad wack him in he doesnt need another loan

  • 28 bye bye Shola // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    For the Blackburn Game on Wednesday I would keep Perch at CB and drop Williamson if Collocini is fit. Also what has Ryan Taylor done to have been dropped when he has played well this season. He should play on the right of midfield on Wednesday instead of Benny in my opinion. Shola and Best are a waste of space and don’t deserve a place in the starting line up. Hopefully the Wolves rumours are true and they do try to get Best and Lovers and as a present i would chuck Shola in the deal.

  • 29 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    I would say that Jonas today was like a headless chicken, but I’d only being insulting headless chickens the world over

  • 30 PK-Norway // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Shows how much we are without Ba, its a shame really that pardew chose shola as captain, a captain have to show passion and stand out so the rest of the team can follow, its a joke playing best on the left , without a really DM…and now after two loss pardew realise that we are not threatning enough.. Sad

  • 31 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    I never said it was my opinion…

    1 quick look at 1 post after the man utd game and 2 drifferent fans said this:
    The back line is so well marshalled by Collo that the offside plan works, but Pardew has them well drilled and is a fine coach, as previous players who have worked under him have said.. Rotunda and Co – will you lot ever f off and stop moaning with your rubbish ? We dont play long ball football. We play classic english high energey football, as demonstrated by the majority of prem league clubs. Martinez at Wigan keeps being mentioned here as if he was some latter day genius – take a reality check. NUFC play a broadly similar style to Everton, Villa etc and Pardew is the fginest boss we’ve had in years. Other eejits claim that he cant take us to the next level ?? At the moment , we ARE at the next level. Some on this site are watching Barcelona too much…..

    and this:
    One the great things about last nights win was the discipline in the 2nd half.

    Pardew plays with a high defensive line which squeezes the space in midfield and allows us to keep close to the oppo and constantly pressurise them when we lose the ball. It also means the back four have to hold the high line so that we play the oppo offiside and/or don’t get caught on the break. It was obvious Ferguson would tell Man U to bomb at us for the equaliser right from the start of the 2nd half and the easy thing (and what most teams do) is to drop off and start defending deep. That invites teams to attack. We didn’t, we held the high line right from the start, got an early second goal, and STILL didn’t drop deep after that. That is a huge reason why Man U got absolutely nowhere and ended up subbing four players including Rooney and Berbatov.

    That high line tactic and discipline is down to Pardew – the best manager the Toon have had since the great Sir Bobby.

    not my opnion but theres ;-)
    voila.

  • 32 hotdog // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    My view is that AP is at fault for playing Best & Shola up front it does not work. You are better off playing Ben Arfa off a main striker BUT and it’s a big BUT! I looked at the Brighton team and did not recognise one player so, my question would be this. How many of those Newcastle players came off that pitch thinking they had outplayed their opposite number. Possibly one or two players and AP is not at fault for that! Time for a look in the mirror fella’s.

  • 33 boardman64 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    I agree that the players need a wake up call, they take for granted the fact that they are playing in a legendary team which has had some REAL legends who gave their all every time they went out on the pitch.

    I would like to see Pardew give the youth players a chance. I would rather have seen someone like Ryan Donaldson given a chance up front instead of Shola (I mean it’s not like he could be any worse)
    And he is one of those fringe players who is getting on a bit so it might be time for him to take a chance or he might have to move on. I watched him play in the reserves thumping against Man U reserves the other night and I thought he was the biggest threat we had.
    Players like Tavernier, Donaldson, Shane Ferguson, Kadar etc should be given a chance if starting 11 players aren’t performing, might spur on our regular players to actually work harder.

  • 34 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    GT89 – I thought he was ready after seeing him in pre season, Simpson and a few other need to have their safety net taken away and pressure put on them for their places

  • 35 RobertNufc25 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    Been saying the same thing about Shola for years.
    1 good game in every 5.

    Plays shite for the next 4 games.

    He was given a new 3year contract in the summer too.
    Excellent idea ffs.

  • 36 Scottishtoon95 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    GT89- Hoofball will only work when the strikers are a lot taller and stronger than the opposition defenders, that’s why we scored against man u. For teams such as Brighton we need to use our skill and top tier knowledge to beat defences, we obviously didnt do that today.

  • 37 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    There’s a rumour doing the rounds that Wolves want Best and Lovern on loan for the rest of the season.
    I’d keep Best and allow them to have Lovern and then offer them 2mil to take Sholla as well

  • 38 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    Agree Lads tavernier shud b giving his chance at ryt back also think obertan needs back in the team ppl finally starting to see what Ive said all along that jonas is useless

  • 39 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    In reply to Jack Butler 27.
    I have 6 chickens (two Blackrocks, two Blacktails & two White Stars) all with heads on & all far more active that most of them at Brighton. Any pairing would be great up front & Pards could get them in the window if he’s quick for £20 a piece.

  • 40 thud and blunder // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    at the end of the day it all boils down to selection of players. Weve had more than 4 months to find a suitable centre half to add to the squad

    What do we do, buy a centre forward (yes he is class) but hes at the bloody ANC.

    Its show total inept forward thinking. A priority was a CB and here we are with 3 days left and no sign of such player.

    For all the good work that has gone on (league wise) it will be a shame if it all goes down the pan.

    Again I blame Pardew. Hes the manager, he knows what we need.

    Blast over!!!!

  • 41 Wor Shearer // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    tbh, even if we did get the pen we didn’t deserve a goal…..terrible performance all round. Particularly from the dugout!

  • 42 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    Will give you £100 for the lot and throw in Jonas and Sholla to seal the deal?

  • 43 free giveaways // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:27 PM

    If you’re going to play Shola it has to be in a front two, not as a lone striker because he’s not mobile enough. E.g against Man Utd when he was very effective when playing alongside Ba.

    Had we played a 4-4-2 today with Best and Ameobi upfront we would have probably won. That’s why we weren’t threatening enough, our lone striker is not mobile enough and HBA and Best were not involved enough because they were both playing out of position, and that is Pardew’s fault.

  • 44 daztoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    @t00ntime
    yes as i thought your a numpty voila.More long winded spew from you. yes we played well but that was the poorest Manure side ive seen at St James Park in a long while.Time to go day still young have a good weekend all

  • 45 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    West Lancs Geordie – Will give you £100 for the lot and throw in Jonas and Sholla to seal the deal?

    And please apologise to your chickens if I offended them by calling Jonas a headless chicken

  • 46 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    I don’t think we play hoof ball we play some nice stuff but we always go down the left bcoz Simpson technically isn’t good enough on the ball n players know this

  • 47 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    @giveaways ben arfa plays best on wing…. when played as cf he might aswell of been on the bench

  • 48 Barras // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    @free giveaways

    Breaking news, the nail has just been struck right on the head.

    I’ll also add that Abeid and Vuckic should of been included today, and Ferguson should of played for longer.

  • 49 RobertNufc25 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    I think if we sell any player it should be buy one get Shola free.

    Just like them offers at sports direct.

  • 50 bye bye Shola // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    Our starting line up needs a big shake up starting this Wednesday. In defence Simpson needs to make way for either Raylor or Tavernier. Williamson to be dropped if Collo fit. In midfield I would actually drop Jonas to show he needs to work harder and do more. Play either Abeid or Vuckic and reinstate Obertan on the right. No more shola and best worst strikers in the league by a mile. Lovenkrands is rubbish but he would do more in 5 minutes then those two headless chickens in 90 minutes.

  • 51 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    I never asked if i was a numpty so I dont what question you answering :S

    and It wasn’t about the man you game but about what 90% of the people on here thought of pardew…

    it wasnt longwinded spew from me as it was what other people said :S

  • 52 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    Trouble is we cud hav beat Brighton easy if we wanted to we didn’t though we’re playing for a draw harper said pardew been saying it all week

  • 53 Munster Mag // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:32 PM

    Toontine at 29 ….that was MY quote , and i stand over it…..

    quick look at 1 post after the man utd game and 2 drifferent fans said this:

    The back line is so well marshalled by Collo that the offside plan works, but Pardew has them well drilled and is a fine coach, as previous players who have worked under him have said.. Rotunda and Co – will you lot ever f off and stop moaning with your rubbish ? We dont play long ball football. We play classic english high energey football, as demonstrated by the majority of prem league clubs. Martinez at Wigan keeps being mentioned here as if he was some latter day genius – take a reality check. NUFC play a broadly similar style to Everton, Villa etc and Pardew is the fginest boss we’ve had in years. Other eejits claim that he cant take us to the next level ?? At the moment , we ARE at the next level. Some on this site are watching Barcelona too much…..

    Thank you, Munster Mag

  • 54 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:32 PM

    After Perch’s performance today maybe Obertan should come back into the team, after all, he played in most of the games that got us into the top 6 and look what’s happened to the team shape since he got benched! Wouldn’t it be funny if he came back into the starting lineup and we started winning again? Of course it wouldn’t have anything to do with his contribution – it would most likely be just coincidence.

  • 55 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    January 28th, 2012 at 9:59 PM
    Alreet lads just got home from the game wat can i say feel abit deflated! Didnt think we deserved to loose that to be fair cabaye n guthrie had a good game as did best n santon however after weeks of sticking up for ameobi i concede he should not be starting for us. Thought gettin the captains armband might spur him on it didnt. Also hba i can see why ur not startin dont track back dont pass wasteful with possesion n just looked unintrrsted in fact its tough to say which of the 2 was worst 2nitr shola n benny hang ur heads lads disgusting effort from the both of ya. Oh n fair play 2 perch 2nite handeled everything that was thrown at him are right hand side looked so weak simmo was left exposed all game

  • 56 Wor Shearer // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    @free giveaways

    He’s not a striker. Don’t know what he is, but he’s not a striker.

    Is he tall enough to be a keeper? I think we need a backup. Elliot’s rubbish.

  • 57 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    I dont thin we have had many better if any for the last few years :P but daz was trying to get pardew fired for some reason

  • 58 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    @munster mag hahaha I dont thin we have had many better if any for the last few years but daz was trying to get pardew fired for some reason*

  • 59 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    Davybtoon – why on earth would Pardew play for a draw? That is possibly THE worst theory of all the lame theories posted today ha ha.

  • 60 Munster Mag // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    Davytoon, agree with that. sadly, we deserved a draw, but if you dont make the most of possession, thats what can happen. Pardew’s formation is all over the shop, and i guarantee you, I reckon he doesnt want HBA around, because he doesnt work hard enough to be a winger, and playing in the hole means Pardew loses defensive width. If football was a 12 man game Pards would be sorted.

  • 61 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    Obertan shud b playing even if it’s down the left wing all those ppl calling may finally start to see what he gives us now he’s not there

  • 62 Wor Shearer // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    Oh, on the subject of keepers. Did anyone see Ole Sod’s clagger of an own goal in the reserves game in mid-week? Hilarious!

  • 63 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    Jack – Apparently they want Loven on a perm deal and Best on loan until end of the season with a view to a perm deal.. if that happens then we defo need another striker asap ha unless the Zaha thing is true that we actually want him.. a would prefer to pay the same money and get Hoillet instead of Zaha

  • 64 RobertNufc25 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:38 PM

    Why doesn’t he just drop Shola & play Obertan behind Best on Wednesday night?

    He need to change something like.

    I dont think we will see Ba or Cisse on Wednesday night.

  • 65 Wor Shearer // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    btw, it’s not because Obertan’s not playing, he’s useless – no end product.

    I’m pretty sure it’s the lack of a certain group of African lads that’s the problem.

  • 66 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    davybtoon – He doesnt give us much atall mate infact less than Jonas.. they both got rubbish final ball, Jonas can dribble and actually attempt to cross the ball Obertan runs and turns back and faffs on until he loses it or takes to long and the move breaks up.. then tracking back Jonas is twice the player Obertan is at defending

  • 67 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    HBA’s best position is in the middle, not on the wing but if we are going to play with two up front that means that Pardew has to decide between Cabaye and Benny and there’s only one winner there.

    And can someone please tell me what the hell Shola has ever done to deserve the honour of wearing the Captains arm band???

    I would rather see Cabaye or Guthrie wearing it if Colo and Saylor are both out

  • 68 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    Tsunki it’s not a theory it’s fact we were happy to jus keep possession without trying do anything to hurt them, been saying all week be good if we can get them back up here, we tried to get early goal once that failed he was content with the draw

  • 69 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:40 PM

    If Obertan had to play a would play Ben Arfa in the middle where he’s apparently best at (even though hes not) and play Ober on the wing even though ad rather play Raylor than Ober

  • 70 solano // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:42 PM

    Davyb..Obertan has been pretty awful since he arrived. It shows the dearth of real quality we have, when after another poor team performance today, you are calling for his re-instatement. Why people think he would be more effective on the left or even upfront isn’t particularly convincing given his relative failure in the position he was signed to play in.

  • 71 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    GT89 – I’d keep Best as he’s a very good squad player and get rid of Shola and Lovern plus Smith could finally be out soon so we’re saving a fair bit of money if we get rid of those three.
    Zaha would be a nice addition as would Hoilett, but we still desperately need a centre half

  • 72 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    robertnufc – i agree shove obertan up behind best – he has uick passing and may be the missing link for jonas and hba. replace best with ba and then we can alternate our two new strikers.

  • 73 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    Gt89 wow attempt to cross is no good, jonas does nothing he was useless today dosent take ppl on he more than often loses the ball he don’t cross n he don’t shoot he is terrible n obertan is no worse yet he gets called worse than crap, obertan got more assists than jonas n we need ppl to create chances n that’s what obertan does b far better on the left than jonas

  • 74 Thump // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:45 PM

    I’m glad that there’s finally people on you can actually debate with rather than being slagged off as was the case earlier.

    Regarding Obertan: am I the only one who wouldn’t mind seeing him in the middle? I can’t remember who it was against but I remember a run he made through the middle that resulted in a free kick… couple of weeks back? He tries to thread the needle rather than whip in crosses – could be worth a deek.

  • 75 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    davybtoon – but we weren’t playing deliberately for a draw – we were just ineffective. Were we playing for a loss when Pards made his crap subs?

  • 76 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Jack – Agreed on Best staying mate… Btw doesnt Taverniers contract run out in the summer?!

  • 77 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    @Thump – Agree mate, Obertan could be better suited to a central role, he has plenty of pace

  • 78 Thump // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    robertnufc reminds me the importance of refreshing before posting :(

  • 79 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    There’s no way I’d get rid of best he’s got 10 prem goals in 11month not that money other strikers with that tally

  • 80 Thump // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    davy read what you’ve just said mate.

  • 81 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    Yea obertan as a striker wud work he wud scare the life out of cb with his pace

  • 82 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    GT89 – yes mate his contract is up in the summer, just hope that when Pardew said they were going to concentrate on new contracts for players after the window closes, that Tavernier was on that list.

    WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS KID TO LEAVE IN THE SUMMER

  • 83 solano // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    Thump@71…if they can’t find a place for HBA in the middle, I can’t see Obertan getting in there. His ball retention has been poor and many times the ball has looked like a hot potato when he has been outwide. In the middle, there is less time on the ball and it would magnify his weak points imo.

  • 84 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    thump – i agree with you mate i posted that last week but got fresh air on that one as we were still feeling the aftershocks of the Shola / Obertan scapegoating rage.

  • 85 Wor Shearer // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    The only time we get the first slot on the fa cup highlights show…..typical!!

  • 86 bye bye Shola // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    We need to target 2 wins in our next 2 games. Come on Players stand up and be counted

  • 87 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:50 PM

    atleast Jonas actually tries a cross though Obertan gets scared soon as he gets into position and loses the ball..

    Thump – Actually that might not be such a bad idea.. with Obertan in the middle Ben Arfa would finally have someone to feed off and also someone he can thread the ball through with Obertan using his pace..Also sure Obertans preferred and best position is through the centre

  • 88 foxyseagull // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:50 PM

    Brilliant lads, not one mention of Brighton. And I thought you knew about football in the North-East. Did anyone think to say well bloody done to the Seagulls? No, not a bloody soul, and there’s me thinking you were ‘real’ football fans.

  • 89 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Thump what about jonas n obertan stand by it jonas gets far to much praise for f all he’s no better than obertan n agree obertan hasn’t started that well so it dosent say much for jonas

  • 90 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Actually quite like the idea of Ober playing through the centre just because Ben Arfa deserves better haha

  • 91 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    I actually pissed myself after reading this

    DanBrown1995 Dan Brown
    Pardew to England, Mourinho to Newcastle. Heard it here first. ;)

  • 92 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    Guys we may have hit upon something here – call Pardew and tell him his job is saved :)

  • 93 Thump // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    @tsunki: I’ve been saying it since he signed mate, nobody seems to listen because they’ve all decided he’s shite :(

    @solano: HBA is useless in the middle mate, he started scoring when he was pushed back out wide – where he made his name. Remember, the only reason we all have an issue with Obertan is because once he gets the ball he looks a bit lost. His train of thought is “maybe if I get really close to the goal somebody might be able to receive a pass”. He’s a great outlet solely because of his pace but I’d also go as far as to say he needs loaned out to a championship club. Today was his kind of a game, Arfa was ineffective but maybe Ober could have done something. *shrug*

  • 94 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    Jonas is consistant at doing nothing though haha Obertans been doing nothing and less haha

  • 95 ToonIcon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    so again newcastle lose and its all shola’s fault he done his job today everyone knows injuries has killed any pace he had but there was at least 3 players worse than shola today Best 0 shots on target from 4 thats a 3rd of our shots today
    also simpson and williamson were shocking in defence
    guthrie and cabeye were way to deep
    Jonas gave the ball away loads today also
    now its just starting to dawn on people how important to this side Steven Taylor really is
    we need at least two new defenders before the window closes
    and if its true wolves want lovenkrands and Best then ffs MA fire up the chopper already

  • 96 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM

    All u ppl slagging obertan n praising jonas I suggest u go back n watch some of our games from this season n see how much obertan crosses compared to jonas granted there both crap at crossing

  • 97 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    davybtoon – 10 goals in 11 month? thats 1 season and 2 month.. 10 goals in say 40 games? 1 in 4? i can name got knows how many strikers with better records

  • 98 RobertNufc25 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    I’ve Seen Obertan come on a few times and play through the middle,looked far better.

    Jonas got away with it for ages because Taylor was playing left back & everybody was saying he’s always helping Taylor.

    No Taylor at left back for a while now & He’s still the same.

    I actually used to think Jonas made Enrique look a better player.

    Looks like It was Enrique making Jonas look better now. lol

  • 99 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    Chickens say No offence taken Jack.Considered your offer but whilst Jonas & Shola are faily inactive I’m sure they will never be like the geese that lay the golden eggs. No rewards from them I’m afraid

  • 100 solano // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    Having pace is just one small part of being a forward in the middle. Awareness, touch, vision,holding the ball up and bringinging others into play, heading, timing runs and having an eye for goal are all equally, if not more important than pace. Has Obertan shown any of these qualities to justify a central place?

  • 101 foxyseagull // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    Not even a mention. You’ve all got above your many stations. Good luck in the imaginary world of the top flight of football. Lest you forget those that came before you and to be honest hope they don’t get to your dizzy heights.

  • 102 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    Jb that’s not as good as the one b4 on twitter about keegan being in talks to become Parsees assistant manager

  • 103 ToonIcon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    we should try sign mbiwa and douglas and play mbiwa rb/lb till we get sorted in the summer and have a large clear out

  • 104 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    davybtoon – They aint anyone praising Jonas man ffs stop it with the Obertan a*s licking.. they both sh*t for what they supposed to do as wingers and no one is better.. BUT Jonas is more of a team player.. thats a fact which no one can deny! and im not f****g praising him nor am i slagging Obertan

  • 105 Thump // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    @davy (84): I have no idea why you’re talking about Jonas when I’m talking about your comment at 76.

    I agree, for what it’s worth. Since Marv went out he’s been shite.

  • 106 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    Gt89 best record is shorter than that u only goin from feb to may then August till now

  • 107 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    ToonIcon – Todays pathetic performance wasn’t Shola’s fault, there are a few others that need to hang their head in shame, but Shola will always get singles out as he’s been so poor for so long, but today, Jonas, Benny and Simpson need to blames as well as Shola

  • 108 noladonna // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    get perch in the england squad now fabio u italian whopper!!

  • 109 Thump // Jan 28, 2012 at 10:59 PM

    @solano: Did Arfa? I honestly can’t remember being impressed with him when he was playing in the middle. I’d love to be proven wrong like.

  • 110 Thump // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM

    No davy, you said: There’s no way I’d get rid of best he’s got 10 prem goals in 11month not that money other strikers with that tally

  • 111 ToonIcon // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    fully agree Jb any real toon fan knows injuries killed any ameobi’s pace thats why pardew uses him as a focal point to win flick ons and hold and give the ball he done both tonight he wasnt great but no where near bad enough to justify the bile on here either

  • 112 solano // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    Thump @88..I agree HBA was extremely poor today out wide, bar one good pass, but he still has a better claim to be played inside than Obertan – look at my list of attributes needed – HBA ticks more boxes than Obertan, though neither option convinces me! :-0

  • 113 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    solano – Obertan is strong, fast and has good timing with his runs hes never had a good enough chance to see if hes good at heading and hes had a couple of screaming shots with his right foot when hes been in the centre… and btw Obertan has one heck of a powerful Right foot when he hits it

  • 114 Its a Krul World // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    I was at the game today, and i was livid when that goal went in what was Simpson doing! I thought Perch was oustanding in the whole game he didn’t make a single mistake, we do deinitely need a center back as cover though.

  • 115 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    Davybtoon – Which is 11 months!!! Premier league season is 9 month long which leaves an extra 2 month.. 1 season and 2 month = 11 month, doesnt matter what months you put infront of me if it adds upto 11 month then its 1 season and 2 month either way

  • 116 solano // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    It comes back to quality and the squad – imo HBA has a load of latent talent that may never be realised – but there have certainly been glimpses of it.
    Obertan has shown nothing, I’m afraid, and people are clutching at straws by putting even more square pegs in round holes.

  • 117 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    To quote Pardew ‘For the goal, Danny pulled out of the tackle as he was on a yellow card!’

    So tell me Mr Pardew why was it that Simpson was still on the field when Brighton’s BIGGEST THREAT WAS COMING DOWN OUR RIGHT SIDE?????

    Instead of taking Santon off, you should have moved him over to the right side and put Fergie on the bloody left.

  • 118 Wor Shearer // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

    If Shola is used for flick ons, then why didn’t Pardew put anyone close to him?

  • 119 North Atlantic Magpie // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

    The best opportunity of the first half fell to full-back Danny Simpson. He stormed into the box to latch on to Hatem Ben Arfa’s clever pass but stabbed his shot into the chest of Brezovan.
    HBA can open up defenses like no one else in the team.

  • 120 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

    Leon Best:
    43 Games – 10 Goals!!!
    Premier league:
    40 Games – 10 Goals!!

    Exactly what i said Davybtoon!

  • 121 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

    You have to laugh don’t you – two weeks ago, obertan was responsible for France being threatened with losing its credit rating, Perch with the US overspend on the war on terror and Shola with global warming and the resurgence of TB in South America. Cabaye was the inventor of sliced bread, Williamson had discovered penicillin, and HBA was the man most likely to lead the world powers to multilateral nuclear disarmament, thus turning the Doomsday clock back to about 9.15 in the morning. What a difference a couple of games make!

  • 122 ADAM-NUFC // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:06 PM

    Hope this isnt true.. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/EXCLUSIVE-Newcastle-Demba-Ba-lined-up-in-swap-deal-for-Liverpool-Andy-Carroll-article858448.html although it says absolutely nothing about a swap for Carroll.

  • 123 solano // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:06 PM

    GT89..you see a different game to me! ;-) His timing of runs and passes have been poor since his arrival.

  • 124 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:06 PM

    Leon Best Career:
    216 Games – 52 Goals

  • 125 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:07 PM

    heard arsenal have a young striker scores every 1 in 5.
    does that soun bad? what if i told you that shola scores less the 1 in 5 (251 games 49 goals).
    and what if told you there stiker is called vermalen ;-)

  • 126 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM

    solano – never said Obertan can pass, infact its the opposite haha.. but in terms of his timing of the runs he makes a think he’s done okay as never really seen him offside when the balls been put through for him

  • 127 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:09 PM

    Let me get back into a sensible debate. A quality CB is No 1 priority like a striker replacement for Carroll was last Jan but we still seem hell bent on going for potential. Nowt wrong with that but your spine down the middle is most important so we need Samba, Cissokho or similar to blend in with the youth and potential. Offload the dross Smith, Kadar, Lovenkrands, Ranger, Best (or Shola) & even Gosling who I don’t think will make it. Perch Williamson & Obertan are squad players at best. HBA has class & potential but he needs to start showing it by playing him in the hole.We don’t just want top be a buying & quickly selling on club but I think that’s Ashley’s plan.

  • 128 kevymartins // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    @davy there you go pardrew has denied the elia rumors

  • 129 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    Shola Ameobi:
    325 Games – 71 Goals = 1 in around every 4.6 games!

    Leon Best
    216 Games – 52 Goals = 1 in around every 4.2 games!

    Peter Lovenkrands
    351 Games – 98 Goals = 1 in around every 3.6 games!

  • 130 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    @tsunki exactly, if someone says something they shud stick by it and not change the opnion everyday… lots of people seem like sheep following the herd

    I stick by my comments and expectations, I expect a top 10 finish, so no complaining there. Pardew is the best thing for us SINCE SBR. Ben Arfa is our most skillful player, we need a back up CB not samba as next season saylor and colo will be starting.

    got 2 complaints about pardew, his subs are strange and at stupid times. And he needs to realise benny is a teamplayer if going forward he will find space and make assists, but he is not a team player when defending, he cant defend for his life and seen so he is getting forced to defend he loses alot of his attributes :S

  • 131 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    Kevy we couldn’t get him anyway as gt89 pointed out he’s already played for 2 clubs this season meaning he can’t move,

    N that mirror article on ba is crap first off we’re not powerless to stopping him if we can get him to sign a new deal

  • 132 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    elia cant join us this season as he’s already played for 2 different clubs

  • 133 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    Its impossible for us to sign Elia anyways dont know why people were believing it.. he’s played for Hamburg 5 times and Juventus 3 times this season anyways we could sign him but he couldnt play for wa until next season

  • 134 Tonytoon73 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    Where is brutoon ameobi is f@cking shyte.

  • 135 Tsunki // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    Adam-NUFC – this is two bits of old tripe nailed together to make one big bit of new tripe. I dunno where to start picking this one to bits. The reporter should be fired for going out drinking and hacking this story together on the bus to work.

  • 136 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:17 PM

    If were so desperate for a winger we should be seriously in for Hoillet but a think we should be focussed on getting a CB rather than a winger unless we get both obv.. Hoillet and Douglas for max of £8million

  • 137 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    @GT thanks for finding that ;-) I cud only find the premier league one lol without noticing you actually proved my point of how bad best and shola are at scoring lol
    vermalen has 1 in 5 for arsenal and he plays cb/lb :O

    if we are going to play 4-2-3-1 (whilst not having Ba and cisse) lovenkrands shud be where best was and best shud be up front o and jonas shudnt play CAM neither shud ben arfa

  • 138 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    Sorry to keep going on but Lovenkrands has got 3 goals in 8 games this season and Best has 4 in 18..

  • 139 Munster Mag // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    Again, plies of fellas showing their ignorance pf fottball, or too much time spent pretending to be a manager. Obertan isn’t very good….or else if he is, its waiting to come out…….he is NOT a central midfielder. Just because he can run fast does NOT make him a central midfielder. The overrated Prem league may need runners in midfield but if doesnt need sprinters. Lets loom at the names of talented midfielders over the years….Giles, Hoddle, Scholes, Brady, Keane, Viera, Modric, Lampard, the dim bloke who played for Roma with the honey wide ……….and ….er ….Obertan …,..get it ?

  • 140 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    On signings anyway after watching mariappa v spuds I’d b happy if we got him

  • 141 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    Sorry to keep going on but Lovenkrands has got 3 goals in 8 games this season and Best has 4 in 18.
    ———————————————————

    And Shola has 1 in 14 :(

  • 142 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    t00ntime – Ayee he’s got 1 in 5 haha and also got 3 assists

  • 143 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:21 PM

    Jack – Ayee lmao

  • 144 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:21 PM

    Jack – In all comps its actually 1 in 16 :\

  • 145 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:22 PM

    dont you love sky? according to sky pardew blamed his players for everything…

  • 146 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:22 PM

    Munster mag no one has even said to play obertan cm we saying he wud good jus off the striker

  • 147 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    haha 1 in 16? I bet i can find 10 CB’s with more goals in 16 this season lol

  • 148 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Ben Arfas got something like 4 in 10 starts

  • 149 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Even bloody nicklas bendtner has scored 4 goals this season, and so has john terry

  • 150 solano // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Davyb..and I’m saying he wouldn’t!

  • 151 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:24 PM

    GT89 – thats even bloody worse

  • 152 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:24 PM

    I don’t know if obertan wud be a good striker (1 shot on target :O ) but he certainly cant be worse then shola.. and he isn’t a great winger so what do we have to lose ?
    henry looked awful till he became on of the best strikers in the premer league in the last 10 years

  • 153 Tonytoon73 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:24 PM

    Mom today perch

  • 154 Munster Mag // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:24 PM

    Jack at 116….unfortinately this would suggest that there will be no significant investment at full back …ie Santon was never going to be moved to right back, and probably never will be. Fergie could easily have slotted into left back and Santon to right, but Pards is another manager who is blinded by loyalty…..if only because it makes it easier for him to manage players. Thats a fact overlooked by so called journalists when they praise “loyal” managers. Dalglish is riddled with it. But them, we always knew he was a cock.

  • 155 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:25 PM

    A best stop because a could keep bringing up players with better records than Besty and Shola(not hard) but im not saying a dont like best because a think he is a very capable squad player to keep around

  • 156 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:26 PM

    aww were not going to sign Elia… liverpool bought him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdGdjpwnNoI

  • 157 irish magpie // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:27 PM

    Have to say lads i know Perch has been slated in the past but he played well tonight. Jonas i am a big fan of but he was like an old man shane ferguson showed more in 5mins then he did for the game i think we should give jonas a rest might pick up his form again.

  • 158 Munster Mag // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:27 PM

    Davy, i’m not convinced Obertan can shoot straight ? Why play him as a striker ? If anything, he’d be better as a right full back…..Fast, keeps defensive shape, good for an overlap ( ok, he cant cross and he cant tackle , but Billson said he was good didnt he ?? !! ) :)

  • 159 Munster Mag // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    Good point fellow Irish Mag!

  • 160 GeordieToon89 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    Finally av remembered his name:
    Steven Fletcher Career:
    277 Games – 85 Goals = 1 in around every 3.3 games
    For Wolves:
    50 Games – 21 Goals = 1 in around every 2.4 games

    He’s only 24 aswell what do yous think about him?

  • 161 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM

    Munster Mag – Pardew saying that simpson pulled out of the tackle as he was on a yellow card just capped the night off for me. Brighton’s biggest threat was down our right so put Santon on the right with Fergie on the left, it was that bloody simple, but as you say he is too loyal to some players who’s performances do not justify their place in the team, as for the investment, we’ll just have to wait and see :(

  • 162 Tonytoon73 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM

    Davy you are an Ameobi lover are’nt you

  • 163 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM

    hahaha love the way ‘ameobi lover’ is being used like ‘nigger guy’ in south park

  • 164 davybtoon // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:32 PM

    Tony what u on about I’ve never said nowt bout shola he’s crap

  • 165 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    @JB people also said that about obertan… that he isnt justifyd but pardew wont take him out, and now everybody wants him back XD

    I think he hasnt changed simmo cause we have no other quality RB… (santon is LB)

  • 166 Tonytoon73 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    Davy good lad. My bad lol

  • 167 nufc786 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    lads read this
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/28/liverpool-andy-carroll-carlos-tevez
    im suprised the lad had a gud game against the mancs

  • 168 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    @munstermag he can’t shoot straight but thats the magic :P he aims for the top right… the ball flies towards the top right, the keeper jumps for it… the ball goes to the left (as obertan actually sliced the ball) it goes in geordies go wild… chant of obertan echo’s through SJP

    can you imagine it yet :P

  • 169 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:36 PM

    t00ntime – But Santon can play RB, and with simpson on a yellow card he needed to change it, and anyway even if he had tackled the guy and been sent off, maybe, just maybe we’d still be in the cup

  • 170 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    “There is also the fact that, approaching his 28th birthday, he would not have fitted into Liverpool’s usual policy of buying players at a young age who will keep a resale value over the course of their contract. ”

    is that not our method… the scousers stole that too :O

  • 171 nufc786 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    t00ntime
    damn right typical scousers…. tut tut
    cmon dagleash give it up..

  • 172 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    @JB I agree mate, if thats why he backed out he doesnt deserve to be in our back 4 again lol
    some times you have to take a risk and seen so it was outside the box chances are we would of drawn 0-0

    that reall wud be the worst excuse ever…

  • 173 joppadoni // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    shola was useless. best did nowt and hba, jonas, guthrie and who the fu ck was on the left wing?? anyways.. simmo worked hard but was his usual self but slightly less effective. williamson was shi te. santon did nowt really and perch was ok but made to look great by the rest of the lads :(. sadly i think we didnt do too bad and although brighton were decent they got the break and that was it.

  • 174 spitfire_ // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:40 PM

    okay… after “we weren’t threatening enough in front of goal” why on earth Ameobi and Best played whole game?

  • 175 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:41 PM

    @nufc786 hahaha dagleish is an adopted scouser, he steals everything thats in reach… but methods, thats a new low lol

    hopefully he gives up before stealing someone good lol

  • 176 joppadoni // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:41 PM

    think i read earlier its all jackieB’s fault.. i think ill add weight to it by agreeing.. well done jackbutler you bastard..

    lol x

  • 177 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM

    To quote Pardew ‘For the goal, Danny pulled out of the tackle as he was on a yellow card!’

    So tell me Mr Pardew why was it that Simpson was still on the field when Brighton’s BIGGEST THREAT WAS COMING DOWN OUR RIGHT SIDE?????

    Instead of taking Santon off, you should have moved him over to the right side and put Fergie on the bloody left.

  • 178 nufc786 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM

    best was used as LW against wtf was pardew thinking at the time i dont know. best shudve played in the target man area. he might have inaffective but by god he worked his @rse off.

  • 179 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:43 PM

    @joppa best was on the LW xD but him and jonas kept getting in each others way… they were confused if you ask me…

    I dont get why we didnt play
    benny–shola/best—jonas
    ———-shola/best———–

    atleast jonas wud of known where he was playing

  • 180 joppadoni // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:43 PM

    sadly spitfire its the best we have.. id rather try the kids upfront than shola. forget goals this season hes only had 3 shots in the last 2 years :S

  • 181 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    joppadoni – Don’t you bloody start, I’ve got enough problems with RobertNufc25 without you chipping in as well :)

  • 182 joppadoni // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:45 PM

    nufc786, i do rem best being on the left touchline once but apart from that there wasnt anyone haha.. tbf it wasnt a bad game but we had nothing in the final third at all.

  • 183 nufc786 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    t00ntime
    well you know the methods that go down in liverpool
    my mate who is a scouser…. well they went to anfield with his other mate and saw this lass get out of the car…
    as soon as she got out of her car. a group of kids went up to her and asked her if they good guard her car for 5quid each . she declined. after the game she found her car without wheels proped up on bricks………

  • 184 Tonytoon73 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    Jack i can see the pitch forks out mate. Lol

  • 185 joppadoni // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    jackieB your the worst thing to happen to newcastle united since jim shandy admitted he didnt drink.. pack it in and we might get in to europe. lmfao. :D

    no, i dont know what the hell that means O_o lmfao

  • 186 nufc786 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:48 PM

    joppadoni
    got that one right but then its not as if we were expecting somthing of shola
    or were we???

  • 187 Thump // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:49 PM

    @ADAN-NUFC: 30 minutes before that article, the same author posted this: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/EXCLUSIVE-Manchester-City-turn-down-Liverpool-s-Andy-Carroll-for-Carlos-Tevez-swap-offer-article858895.html

    Aye, it’s shite lol

  • 188 JackButler // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    Tony – I was gonna ask do you still have them :)

    Everything will be alright when we get our boys back from the ACoN………………………………….hopefully

  • 189 t00ntime // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    @nufc786 I don’t know if I shud feel sorry for her or just laugh xD

    I know the moral of the story though, If someone offers to guard your car you shud either pay them or park your car in a drifferent neighberhood :P

  • 190 Spuggy // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    Gutted about the result but in a way it’s a reality check for all.

    We are in our 2nd season back from relegation. Just when we were all calming down and realising our club is going through a period of rebuilding and stabilisation we start believing again.

    Nothing wrong with that, but for me, we’re a season off being a consistent top 8 team. Why? because:

    Santon, Cabaye and Arfa is still adjusting to the pace and hustle of the the PL. Remember Enrique, Collo – took them a good 1-2 seasons to settle.

    We have lost KEY players, first and foremost Saylor, who along with the others gave is the meanest defense in the league his lose can not be understated.

    Marveaux got injured and our wing options are starting to look a little thin – he is a solid technical player and was just starting to find his feet.

    Cisse is likely going to need time to settle.

    Bottom line: We need Saylor and Marv back. We need a top CB (Willo should be 4th choice), a LB (switch Santon) and a 3rd striker.

    Only then will we be a truly great team. So, lets manage our expectations and enjoy watching the team gel with patience.

  • 191 Tonytoon73 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    Jack stil got them mate.

  • 192 Marty-Toon // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:56 PM

    Would be surprised if Obertan gave us somethin different than Ben Arfa as he also gives us no finished product.
    Think we shoulda had best and Ben Arfa up front today with Ryan tayls on the right.
    Surely we have to do something different for the Blackburn game if the Afro boys aren’t home.

  • 193 Brutooon // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    SHola Ameobi is the most SHIT and LAZY PLAYER to ever wear the NEWCASTLE UNITED CAPTAIN

    how can player motivated playing with a lazy captain?

    Ameobi is SHIT. he cant even beat a league 1 defenders

  • 194 stuart no9 // Jan 28, 2012 at 11:59 PM

    These inept showings have got to stop its getting a joke now.against norwich -it was only one game then against liverpool, then fulham now brighton, these performances are getting all to familiar.pardew said we gave a good .account of our self.what tosh is he spouting off now. Brighton gave a good account of themself we were poor again full stop.no excuses

  • 195 Benji84 // Jan 29, 2012 at 12:17 AM

    I know you are not suppose to slag off our team mates but there are 2 players that need to get there head out of the arse. 1 is Shola like come on buddy who the fark do you think you are kidding playing like you do. There was an article about him and if you look at the figures he has not smashed out 50 goals yet for the club and he has been here for 10 years so thats a great turn out of goals per season NOT!!!! Lastly who the hell does Simpson think he is???? I mean the was he acts on the pitch and does interviews he thinks he is the most gantaster, top english RB in the country. Buddy lets look at this you gave that goal away and second they almost got another because of your continuous stupid errors. I dont give a crap that you used to play with united i dont also care that you play fifa with united instead of NUFC all we want is you to play proper football. God I cant believe i woke up in 3:30 in the morning to watch such a crap display from my team. The sooner they get rid of simpson, shola, loverpants and Xisco and get 4 players that can play and dont walk around the pitch knowing they get in the squad by doing nothing the better. Cheers for reading my rant

  • 196 CynicalasEva // Jan 29, 2012 at 12:21 AM

    I never want to see simpson in a toon shirt again – he alone bottled a tackle (one of many) that led to he goal. Brighton came down that wing all afternoon and got behind simpson so easy. When he goes forward he get caught in possession and looses the ball.

    Why was Best on the left wing – Why was Jonna in the middle, Whe was HBA on the RW. Shola spent all day flicking balls on to their keeper who had 2 shots max to deal with.

    We were woeful – Brighton outplayed us and we did not have a plan B – as the Seagulls say ‘premiership aving a larf’

  • 197 Brutooon // Jan 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    Last year Best did well scoring for us when he play up front.

    Shola Ameobi CANNOT lead the line. He is the most Shit player every to play for Us. WHen he retired no one would want the 23 shirt EVER !!!

    We are playing a 4-3-3 formation which didnt work when u got the most SHIT Striker up front.

    Even if u put Messi and Ronaldo to support Shola Ameobi they will struggle.

  • 198 JP...from The Rock // Jan 29, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    What a terrible performance another disappointing and early exit from the cup.

    AMEOBI GET THE FU#K AWAY FROM NUFC!! He is constantly taking the piss with his pathetic displays week in week out. How he constantly gets picked is beyond me – he must have really sore knees. What’s worse is after a sh*t performance like tonight’s he’ll go home thinking he’s done great and get picked to START AGAIN the next match!! AAAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! I HATE HIM AS MUCH AS I HATED BRAMBLE!

    Phew… well I am glad I took that off my chest but seriously do you guys think we would have lost if we had a decent ST to at least be able to shoot well and MOVE to help Best?

    I know it wasn’t all Strolla’s fault that we lost but he has been the biggest ball and chain dragging our club all these years.

  • 199 ross armstrong // Jan 29, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    im going to say something now !!! my wifes granda is jackie milburn and he will be turning in his grave if he knew the lack of passion and urgency to win the match today !! it was a disrespectful peformance from all the players and they should be ashamed of themselves!! to finish off shola ameobi please stop playing football , your too slow , lazy and have no idea what fans think about you at the mo , embarrasing!! roll on ba , cisse , tiote and colo in the team!! well done lads today … shocking

  • 200 CynicalasEva // Jan 29, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    Jp. To b fair to strolla there was no service coming to him all day. Best was useless, never won a header and he never looks up when he is on the ball and ends up running into trouble. Hba had a poor one and cabaye serms to get injured now most games and then goes off the boil -although there is little movement from the other players. All in all a crap performance bar no one

  • 201 ross armstrong // Jan 29, 2012 at 1:12 AM

    at least best moved tho , shola did f uck all AGAIN

  • 202 ross armstrong // Jan 29, 2012 at 1:15 AM

    i wonder if ashley gets a player in b4 wed then??? hes leavn it late for a defender!!! we are a few signings from a strong team and a few departures from a weak team

  • 203 nattapol_d // Jan 29, 2012 at 2:01 AM

    Now I do not just dislike Shola but hate him at most. To be fair he is not good at all for a highest league. He lost every opportunity to score and was used to complete 11 -11 soccer rule. Useless.

  • 204 Eldis R. // Jan 29, 2012 at 2:11 AM

    Who was good who played bad doesnt metter now…
    I was disappointed to, after the game, but its oki we out just bad luck-bad day for us. Thats football all teams sometimes lose the game against ?lower ranking? ones, today was our turn :(.
    Ant that bad league is not over, thats the only thing left, 6th on the table atm chasing Arsenal and Chelsea.
    Ppl we are looking good we need to focus here, atm we dont have the squad to play good in Fa and premier all in one, lets be real…Now players will have less games then teams in front of us. We have more time to get ready for next game. But lads will need to work hard to get the results. Like i said s… happens…
    Looking foward to next one, last two against them where trailers this season, last min ones.
    But yeah they where to low today…

  • 205 Dearka // Jan 29, 2012 at 3:25 AM

    for me while watching the game i think i would have kept the same over all team expect i would have put Obertan on the right wing and played HBA behind Leon Best and just beach or leave shola at home

  • 206 taker83 // Jan 29, 2012 at 4:10 AM

    Alan Pardew has done a decent job at Newcastle so far, but when it comes to tactics he is sh!t!!!!I just don’t understand why amoebi gets selected?If it is coz only of his physical / flick ons then i think its not rite coz tat son of ;;;; is simply not doing enuf!He is lazy bast and guess givin Padew bjowbs every nite!
    When u know we are not threatening or being sharp in front of their goal, why cant u just bloody make d subs early?U dont need to be a genius to think of tat!He and the players just underestimated Brighton!
    Why cant he put obertan in place of amoebi, play jonas on left , obertan right and ben arfa behind best?Alan PArdew is to be blamed for this humilation!
    Simmo should be sold.Santon or a new rb/lb shud be brought in though it wont happen!
    As for Amoebi, He is the worst fball player i have ever seen in the Prem League.He will even fall if u ask him to throw a ball in.

  • 207 geordielad880 // Jan 29, 2012 at 9:42 AM

    I think a few of our first team players are taking their positions in the side for granted, time to shake things up a bit.

    ———————–krul

    tavernier—-collocini——–williamson—santon

    ———-gosling——guthrie—-cabaye

    obertan———————————ferguson
    ————————best

  • 208 nufcburty // Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    NO SHIT SHERLOCK. We’re NEVER going to be threatening with Ameobi up front!
    Also, since Obertan hasn’t been playing, we’ve had no link between right wing and strikers… you might all hate him for no reason… but put him back there and give Ben Afra his number10 role, play around him. Basic football isn’t working at Newcastle at the moment, we need pace and skill.. we lacked that a lot yesterday.

  • 209 Sav // Jan 29, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    It wasn’t just personnel. No use blaming Shola (who won every header) or Best or Ben Arfa. There was a comfort malaise we just couldn’t get the urgency required to polish them off. And if the game is running and you aren’t winning it, you are always liable to a sucker punch and that is what we got. Poyet set up Brighton to play deep and nick one and that is precisely how it transpired.
    For the second game in a row it actually looked as if we were missing Nolan and Joey Barton.
    When we didn’t administer the coup de grace ourselves, we were always a target to take one under our guard. Goodbye Cup.
    However, the season is still exceeding all reasonable expectations so lets not get carried away with doom, either.

  • 210 Sav // Jan 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    …and it is a sickener, but its not Pardew’s fault that Newcastle have fallen foul of Gus Poyet so often in the past.




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