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Perch One Of The Heroes Last Night – Would You Believe It

1:06 pm, Thursday, February 2nd, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 274 Comments

Alan Pardew has always supported James Perch,  since the Londoner came to the club in December of 2010.

James Perch – played well in the last two games

And it’s also true that James has struggled on Tyneside since he arrived from Nottingham Forest in the summer of 2010, and we though Alan liked James because he was the ultimate professional.

In the last couple of games he’s proved he’s not too bad a player either, as he was the star man at Brighton last Saturday filling in for the injured Fab Coloccini.

And then last night his introduction for Ben Arfa in the second half seemed to change the game, and gave Newcastle a solidity in central midfield they had lacked in that first half.

This is what Alan told the local press today:

“This is what the squad’s about. We had one or two who had the option to go out on loan, but the players told them to stay.”

“James Perch was excellent. He was one of our better players at Brighton, but I left him out because our captain was back. I thought he was a big reason why we won.”

“It just goes to show what a credit he is to his profession.” “I’m delighted – we came through a few tests. We had some key players missing.”

“Losing Cabaye in the morning was another hammer blow, and we wondered when our luck would turn.”

“But it turned tonight – we had a few breaks in the game. The first goal was fortunate. We had a penalty save. They had a couple of chances that perhaps could have gone in.”

James Perch was born in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, and  is now showing he’s a very good utility player, and is joining Ryan Taylor as an important player of the Newcastle squad.

James Perch like Ryan Taylor can come into the side  and play well in a number of different positions for the Magpies.

And Pardew has used Perch late in games this season to shore up the Newcastle team,  as they play out the game, but he did that very early last night.

James now has 16 appearances this season and 14 last season, and it says a lot about the character of the lad, that he’s hung in there over the last 18 months.

But the 26 year-old is now likely to start in central midfield alongside Danny Guthrie,  in the home game against Aston Villa on Sunday afternoon.

It also says something about Alan Pardew’s abilities, that he’s brought the best out of both James Perch and Ryan Taylor this season.

We need players like James in the Newcastle squad.

Comments welcome.



Tags: James Perch · Newcastle News · Ryan Taylor





274 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Trent Toon // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    I agree with everyone here being so fickle including myself..

    But i don’t necessarily think it is a bad thing it is just natural.

    Players have to earn the constant respect of fans and they do that by playing at a high standard. Some toon players who have done this are Tiote, Ba, Coloccini, Krul. Players that haven’t James Perch, Shola Ameobi, Obertan, Best. They may put in a good shift from TIME TO TIME (like perch last night) and deserve credit <– But thats the problem they have played like total barnyard shit most games and deserve to be let known by the fans.

    Its not that we are as much fickle, but the reaction of all the fans is a good indicator that they are inconsistent and lack quality.

    Im sure if Perch keeps his form up and scores 10 goals by the rest of the season then we won't be as fickle toward him when he hits bad form…

    see what I'm getting at??

  • 2 Wor Shearer // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    Perch has the ability to ruin good football, I think his new found role at DCM is perfect for him!

  • 3 Rowan Milsted // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    I was discussing Perch with someone on this blog a few days ago who pointed out he’s a much better CDM than a CB. It seems he was right. Still a way to go before I can truly put my faith in him, and two questions remain: can he continue to improve, and can he start games as well as he can finish them? If Perch continues to improve then I think he’ll prove himself worthy, and I hope he does. I’ve always said he looks more of a Championship player than a Prem player, but all players need time to settle in and get their game up to scratch. So I’ll sit on the fence with this one and wiat to see how well he does between now and the end of the summer. I definitely think he’s worth keeping as a utility player at the moment, always handy players to have in your squad. But the idea of Perch starting at CB in Prem games still worries me to be honest.

  • 4 Rowan Milsted // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    * end of season, not summer

  • 5 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Wor Shearer – definitely agree there, keep Perch away from Full’Back or CB and he does a brilliant job. Abv not on par with Tiote, but a worthy replacement at the moment. Has got better with every game, and like i have said before, if Perch was 19, people would be taking note of his past few games and saying that he is a real prospect because of the way he has been improving!

    which means, theoretically, in 4 years time he will be as good as Messi, yes??? ;)

  • 6 Wor Shearer // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    Being continuously positive about the whole team, all the tactics and every performance is:

    1 – unrealistic
    2 – idiotic
    3 – V boring!

    If you don’t criticise the players they’d never put any effort in. Support them yes! but we should keep them on their toes.

  • 7 ilovetoon8788 // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    No way Perch should play anywhere in defence except against Championship teams. His best role and the one he looks like a premiership player all right is central midfield.

  • 8 martoon // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    Ed – I am slightly puzzled if James Perch was born in Mansfield how is he a Londoner?
    While I agree he had a good game I think changing the system to 442 also had a big impact as all the players were in their correct positions, especially Best.

  • 9 t00ntime // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    people say we are lucky this season, 2 things
    1) you don’t just get lucky u have to be good enough to push the other team to the limits in order for them to make a maistake and give u the ‘luck’ (or just have a ref on urside but that was only vs wovles ;-) ) for example own goal against man utd, we pushed and pushed created 2 goals and make jones look like a pretender, therefore got nervous and made a massive mistake, own goal yesterday we were pushing and they fell easy and early. (that really shows that blackburn dont have much morale at the moment)

    and 2) is it not about time we get ‘lucky’ we have been unlucky for the last 15 years lol twice missing out on winning the league by a matter of points, lots of the time underachiveing, now we are finally over achieving and have a great group of players aswell, have an average manager who deserves some ‘luck’

  • 10 t00ntime // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    o yeah 3) the FA are total c0ck heads and arent going to give us a break, example cabaye gets banned when crouch, rooney etc dont…

  • 11 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    I have never understood barracking your own players. It doesn’t mean we don’t get frustrated by them at times, but getting behind your own players when the chips are down is a sign of classy support. Nothing is gained by booing if the players are working to help the cause.

    The Arsenal supporters have turned on Arshavin and I can understand that. He obviously doesn’t care about the club anymore and is unwilling to make amends and dig in if he loses the ball. But he is a rare case and we don’t have anyone like that thankfully.

  • 12 Beattie25 // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    Does anyone else fantasise about Colo shaving his hair off?

    He would look a real nut case.

  • 13 aussietoonfan // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    Just catching up with posts as I’ve only just finished watching the game.

    Noticed that the main reason for the negative comments on this blog is that everyone else responds instead of letting the negative people have their say. (myself included in the past).

    I will try (as best I can) to NEVER again give a response to the negative “fair weather fans” and therefore not empower them to attack our team, our players, our manager, our owner, our fans, our NUFC Bloggers, OUR CLUB.

    So, if you ever read negative comments please join me and DO NOT reply to the authors. They want confrontation, they seek argument, they love creating division, and all we’re doing is giving them what they want.

    Great performance to take the three points.
    Keep striving for the top.
    Play the hardest you can.
    We support you.

    HOWAY THE LADS!!!!!

  • 14 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Beattie – excellent theory, i am sure someone on this blog is IT literate and will be able to produce such an image!!

    ANY TAKERS????

  • 15 geordiejamie89 // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Line-up for sunday:
    Krul
    Simpson, Williamson, Collocini, Raylor.
    Oberton, Barfa, Perch, Gutierrez.
    Best, Demba.
    Substitutes: Cisse, Lovenkrands, Elliot, Ferguson, Guthrie, Santon, Gosling.
    Cisse to replace Best at half time.

  • 16 GeordieGesus // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    martoon, read it again slowly. Pardew is the Londoner.

  • 17 IPToon // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:28 PM

    We were ‘lucky’ that Blackburn had Modeste up front to waste so many chances.

    Couldnt hit a cows back side with a banjo.

  • 18 gaz 44 // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    http://www.google.co.uk/m/search?site=images&source=mog&hl=en-GB&gl=uk&client=ms-android-samsung&q=coloccini%20short%20hair&sa=N#i=1 u not remember that beattie

  • 19 GeordieGesus // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:33 PM

    Toon_Tom,

    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1165/833022075_b2dc531280_o.jpg

  • 20 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:36 PM

    GG > brilliant, however i would have preferred a smoother top!!!!! haha

    Cheers tho :)

  • 21 LewSpi // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    I did my best for #BaldColo

    https://twitter.com/#!/LewSpi/status/165066326669410304/photo/1

  • 22 toonincheek // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    If you can be born in March with your birthday in September, then I guess you can be born in Mansfield yet be a Londoner.

  • 23 gaz 44 // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    haha loving Lews bald Colo

  • 24 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:41 PM

    Lewspi – i can’t open that cos i am in the office today and i cant connect to certain web pages (as i should be working shhhhhh) so i will have a look when i get home ……………. it better be good :p

  • 25 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    gaz / lew – one of you take a screen shot and email it to me!!!!!

  • 26 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    tom.surtees@carillionplc.com

  • 27 LewSpi // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    What’s your email address?

  • 28 msk21dec // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:43 PM

    I guess Perch’s best position is defensive midfield.. so as another post suggested i also believe he should be 2nd behind tiote.
    People still forget we are still in process of building a team and in no way are we complete!
    If i was manager i would personally play with the players at my disposal:
    (3412)
    Krul,
    willo saylor collo,
    obertan tiote cabaye santon
    ben arfa
    ba cisse

    subs: Harper, kadar, vuckic, lovenkrands, best, simpson, raylor.

  • 29 LewSpi // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:44 PM

    Sent it there, providing I have all the letters in “carillion” the right way round, you should have it.

  • 30 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    Lew – LEGEND!!!!!

    HAHAHAHA

  • 31 msk21dec // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    p.s. from my last post id swap perch for kadar on subs bench actually!

  • 32 alkinou // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    Could someone explain me what happened with Cabaye at Brighton? Do you think the charge is fair?

  • 33 LewSpi // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    You don’t realise how big his nose is until his curly locks are removed.

  • 34 -Tendo- // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    HAHAHA LewSpi Thats brilliant!

  • 35 LewSpi // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:54 PM

    It gets worse fellas, this is what he might look like if he follows Maradona’s lifepath..

    https://twitter.com/#!/LewSpi/status/165070378107027456/photo/1

  • 36 LewSpi // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:54 PM

    Toon_Tom, I’ve emailed you it ;-) ha.

  • 37 msk21dec // Feb 2, 2012 at 1:58 PM

    In terms of squad and what we need this is how i see it.
    (442) 1st choice
    Krul.
    Santon, Saylor, Collo, NEW LB.
    NEW RW, tiote, cabaye, Ben Arfa.
    Ba, Cisse.

    2nd choice
    Harper.
    simpson, willo, NEW CB, 2nd LB.
    Obertan, perch, Guthrie, Jonas.
    Best, NEW CF.

    So i guess we need 5 proper players to have a full squad on top of missed players such as Gosling, Raylor, Marveux and Ameobi.

    Id choose for 2 LB Pieters and Cissokho. Giroud as a CF. Douglas or Mbiwa as CB.. This new CB has to have pace as we are very bad in centre half which has no pace whatsoever. Krasic RW.

    Remember Ben arfa had his best game for us on left wing vs Everton. Im 50/50 with marveuax and obertan. i dont really rate Gosling. maybe sell him. Raylor can be squad player as he is versatile. Maybe get one more attacking young midfielder.

    DO people have other suggestions for the vacant positions?

  • 38 Jonny // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    I think due to Pardrews stubbornness, Pappis won’t start for at least 5 games! and this will be the team against Villa:

    ————————Krul————————–

    Simpson——-Colo———Willo———–Santon

    Obertan—Guthrie—Raylor/Perch———-Jonas

    ——————-Ba———Ameobi—————-

    Would love to see two Dembas up top with Benny just behind them though!

  • 39 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    lew – spat my coffee out at my desk!!!!!! Briliant :D

  • 40 Level 7 Hero // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    @Jonny

    Thats the exact team I reckon he’ll pick, unfortunetly.

  • 41 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    Jonny – i would agree with that, however if Best is fit i think it will be Ba and Best up front, with Cisse (i f’ing hope so) coming on second half for Best/Ameobi.

    I would play -

    _____________Krul the conqueror______________

    Simo_______Willo_________Colo________Santoon

    _______________Perchiniho__________________

    Raylor/Oba ___________HBA_______________Jonas

    ____________Demba 1 ___Demba 2____________

  • 42 Klatoon // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    Hairy backline
    Puyol David Luiz Collo Assou-ekotto :-)

  • 43 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    Hairy Backline —— awesome:

    Hairy 11 -

    Haggita
    Puyol __David Luiz___ Collo__ Assou-ekotto
    Waddle ___ Keegan ___Voller ___Fellaini
    Valderrama ____ Best

  • 44 LewSpi // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Haha Valderrama was an absolute must.

  • 45 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    definitely, first man on my teamsheet ;)

  • 46 Klatoon // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    if I were floppy chops ‘arry i’d ask Ekotto to lose the new hair style,there’s no way he’d be able to see a winger sneaking in behind him at the back post. that hair extends way beyond his ears ffs

  • 47 catchy in norway // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    gaz 44 // Feb 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM from previous post

    you know what iv only been like this since pardew took over,

    and if you read all my posts iv said many times we are just a couple of players short of a team that could break into the top for

    my take on our first team players,

    1 , krul, young, still lots to learn, great shot stopper, but needs to work on his kicking,

    2. colo,one of the very best defenders in the prem

    3. steven taylor, could be a future england captain, heart of a lion, sometimes makes rash chalenges, but him and colo together make the best partnership in the prem

    4. williamson, brave and tall and very slow,

    5. simpson, imo not good enough, has improved from last year, but even last night. he played the guy onside and didnt try and get back like the other 3,

    6. santon, still young, but loves to get forward, dont think lb is a natural position, would like to see him at right back as he is a natural right footer

    7. jonas, great engine works the whole game, little end product out of him

    8. cabaye, think he is one of our best players, covers the ptich, tackles, passes, has a great shot, i feel that pardew is killing his game by playing him as a more defensive player

    9. tiote , a true defensive midfielder, hunts and destroys , but not a bad passer of the ball to

    10. obertan, not a premiership player, the only sts that gets thrown at me about him is he has created the most chances for our team, well thats a stat thats hard to prove, as when you check the stats that count, ie shots, shots on target, crosses and cross completion, he is the worst out of our whole team, so quite how he has created the most chances when he carnt find his man is beyond me,

    10. HBA, the boy has real quality, just needs to learn when to pass,

    11 , shola, scores in important matches, every now and again, first touch is shocking, dont think he can really strike a ball, i mean put his foot through it, never seen him ever do it, lazy isnt the word, he always walks back from being offside, not a premiership player, dont think he make any other team in the prem,

    12. best, another one who i dont feel is good enough for our team, needs a lot of chances,

    13, ba, other than ramadam, good all round cf, always looks like he will score

    14. perch, i feel at cb, he is a liability ,

    pardew as a manager, from what iv seen and heard from the guy, he lies alot, he plays lump it long football, or like the last 3 games just tries to sneek a goal and hold on,
    and is only here to pay of his debt to ashley,

    when ever he plays the kids, and we do have some good ones, he plays them out of position, then drops them for weeks sometimes months, what a way to kill confidence

  • 48 Hawaiian Geordie // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    not gonna lie, i think given our absences, a midfield of

    raylor—-guthrie—-perchinho—-jonas

    is pretty damn solid. i woudn’t mind seeing vuckic or abeid get runs out either, but i’m ok with the above formation as well

    roll on you black and white bastards!

  • 49 jesperfuglsang // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Ed, I think you’re sugarcoating it a bit. It’s not the story of “The Ugly Duckling” :) lol

    Perch came in to saw up the hole between our midfield and our defense – he did that, and good for him.

    I just thought it was wrong that it was at the expense of HBA. It’s not like Raylor or Guthie was turning heads and it was their job in the first place to safeguard the defence.

    But that’s a story about tactic and we’ll debate that another day. Too many British 4-4-2 fan in here :)

    Any ways crap game, good result – the story of NUFC this season.

    We’ll make it right next season hopefully :)

    Howay The Lads!

  • 50 nickfish90 // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Here’s a quick 5 second job to add to the collection of shaved head COLLO’s.

    http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2945/collobold.png

    Looks a bit strange like because his hair was pushing his ears fowards :P

  • 51 Hawaiian Geordie // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    philosophical question, lads, who is demba 1 and who is demba 2?

  • 52 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    Ba and Cisse with HBA ‘in behind’ just wouldn’t work. We’ve won games this season by pressing lots and being incredibly compact.

    All these flashy 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 formations look nice, but the fact is that when we’ve played them we’ve been poor. We’ve won games with 4-4-2, and that’s why Pardew has reverted to it.

    Why does everyone always think they know better?

  • 53 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    Hey GeordieGesus – you change your name because of that xenophobic comment? Shame man – stand tall.

    Jonny – notice Pards has been playing 4-3-3 since we signed Cisse.. perhaps he is trying out the new formation in preparation. Can’t see why else jonas is played central and Best out wide.

    The same team that beat Man U with Raylor or maybe Obertan wide right I reckon.

  • 54 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    catchy

    How long have you supported the club? Is 5th in the Premier League, 30 months after we got relegated, not good enough for you?

    Unbelievable… Honestly, who you think could do better with our budget?

    Why do you not want to be happy? Why support the club if you can’t find happiness in being 5th in the league, above Liverpool and Arsenal and Sunderland?

  • 55 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    Hawaiin >

    Ba = 1

    Cisse = 2

    formula is the length of time spent in a Toon Shirt ;)

  • 56 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    * formation that beat Man U..

  • 57 Hoovernose // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    @aussietoonfan
    Hey man, as it’s your club and all that. Could you see your way round to buying some decent defensive cover in the next transfer window please. Cheers cobber, oh aye and do me a favour and don’t reply to this. BOOM!

  • 58 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    boater

    You think we’ll maybe try Jonas, Cabaye & Tiote in the middle? Still not too convinced by Jonas central. He works very hard, and against QPR he linked up with HBA fantastically well. But the amount of free kicks he wins dribbling down the left is unreal, and he great at relieving the pressure out wide.

  • 59 nickfish90 // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    Just seen the Hoillet dive post on Twitter, fast forward near the end and you’ll see a replay from behind, the cheating SOB.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX-NhwubEzU

    I was at the game and you could tell by the reaction of the Newcastle players that he’d thrown himself to the ground after no contact. I love the passion from Rayls though!

  • 60 jesperfuglsang // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    @ToonDownSouth

    4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, 4-6-0 are not flashy my friend. They are modern and they are a product of modern football :)

    4-4-2 i a dinosaur formation. The fact is that no team in the top four of any of the major leagues uses 4-4-2.

    The clubs that have won the league or Europe League or CL have uses one of the flashy formations ;)

    You don’t se many teams in the continent playing 4-4-2 these days and since we bought continental players, why use 4-4-2?

    We don’t even look good playing it; if it wasn’t for lady luck this season we would be some where down the middle of the table.

  • 61 Toon Tang // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    good luck nobby , you legend .

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16856443

  • 62 martoon // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Thanks GeordieGesus for explaining that to me. When I was at school I was always taught that the pronoun or adjective always refers to the last noun mentioned previously hence my confusion.

  • 63 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Jesper

    But we’re not one of those teams :| That’s my point. I don’t think our players are good enough at the moment to adapt to a new more open formation AND win games.

    I think we have to choose one of the two. Look at Swansea – they play some nice passing football, but it took them about 5 years to implement it, and it’s a lot easier to do that when you’re in League One & the Championship, and there’s no pressure on you to win games.

    For this season, I’m happy as we are, playing really compact, high pressure football, and winning games.

    Maybe pre season Pardew can work on smoething else.

  • 64 Hoovernose // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    @@ToonDownSouth
    With all due respect mate with Pap and Demba in the team we have to go 442. It would be a crime not to.

  • 65 catchy in norway // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:54 PM

    ToonDownSouth

    iv supported the club a long time, used to go to all the reserve games,watched taylor come through, chopra was outstanding way better than shola,when i couldnt afford a ticket i worked as a steward was there when tino scored his hatrick against barca,

    5th is great, but i really think its a false position, we have road our luck more than we have played great football,

    pardew has no back up plan, or iv never seen one yet, he always makes subs way to late to make an impact, and when he does make a change, its normally defensive, even when we a chasing a game,

  • 66 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    Hoovernose

    Either you’ve misunderstood my point, or I’ve misunderstood yours ;) I’m saying we have to see out this season playing 4-4-2, because it’s what we’re good at.

  • 67 toonashwin // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    5th spot
    i made it my walpaper!!
    More u see better it look each time!

  • 68 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    TDS –

    It just struck me that Pardew adapted the system around the time we landed Cisse so maybe he is proto testing now. I would like to see 4-3-3 with Cisse/Ba/Arfa at some point – as you say, as cuckoo as it may be in practice. Tiote and Cabaye are shoe-ins which leaves one space to be fought out by Ober, Raylor and Guthrie.

    Starting to think Arfa is the elephant in the room for Pardew – a headache as a tactical anomaly and he’ll be off in the summer.

    BTW. I was at Hillsbrough when we played Shearer/Ferdinand/Asprilla up front for the second half- equalised from 1 – 0 down and it finished 1-1 with a perfectly good Tino ‘winner’ ruled out, but insanely exciting all the same.

  • 69 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    catchy

    I would argue that in almost every single game this season, we’ve played much better in the second half than in the first – doesn’t that suggest a manager who is able to adapt and make changes?

    Yesterday for example – we’re missing about 6 first team players, and our bench is very very weak. So we switched back to 442, had Perch in the holding role to sure things up, and for me it worked. Every single one of our stats improved in the second half, and Perch didn’t misplace a single pass, and won every tackle and arial challenge he attempted.

    I dont really see how that’s an inability to change?

  • 70 Hoovernose // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Ketsbia was also outstanding like.

  • 71 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    Haha. If HBA can work in a 4-3-3 with Cisse & Ba then it may all be perfect, but I know what you mean.

    Although the way I see it is that Ba will probably be off in the summer. I think, we’ve got our replacement for Carroll now, we’ll make a few million on Ba, and move on with Cisse as the #9 for some time.

    And people forget how quick Shearer was down the flanks. He lost a lot of pace towards the end, but he has so much acceleration that I always forget about.

  • 72 Hoovernose // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    @ToonDownSouth
    I agree mate, cheers.

  • 73 Sgt. Heagerty // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Perch proves my point that the toon army can turn avereage players into world beaters. What this kid lacks in talent he makes up in heart and sure grit. As a Newcastle supporter that’s the kind of squad players I love, and obertoon cheers mate beauty of a goal

  • 74 Sgt. Heagerty // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    What’s today’s news mates just getting up here on a cold sunny Thursday here in missouri

  • 75 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    catchy – I am starting to think Pardew’s game plan is to win whilst looking like we are riding our luck. Do the bare minimum to win – frustrate the opponent and allow them possession in non-threatening areas along with long range efforts. If we went off match stats we’d be bottom half. We have won a host of games where the opponent has looked better on paper (QPR, Everton, Wigan, Blackburn) but we have sort of been in control at the same time.

    I still say the most attacking we have played all season is the second half against Villa to come from a goal behind. Stoke is the most complete performance though.. even better than Man U.

  • 76 -Tendo- // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    ToonDownSouth – totally agree with you bout playing better in the second half. there have been times this season when it’s been a cringe worthy first half and i’m just waiting for that whistle becasue i know we will be a better team in the second half!

  • 77 Hoovernose // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    442 works for us because we have a squad full of wingers. Most of whom though unfortunately completely forget their crossing training once they have beaten their man. No names mentioned, erhm Spideman, Obertan.

  • 78 toonashwin // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    74 died at football riot in Egypt.
    ‘may they rest in peace’

    to Ed – a article on this please.

  • 79 Car-Toon // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    @ Sgt. Heagerty

    Are you a yank pretending to be a brit? or a brit pretending to be a yank?

  • 80 Klatoon // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    Sgt.H,nothing much but apparently Perch is the new messiah :-) dare I say,it was proposed he got a spot on the banner. And its a lazy thurs evening here in Kampala

  • 81 NorseToon // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    Next season will be Ben Arfas time to shine. He’ll be like a new signing. Marveux as well. He’ll be like a new signing. Hope Gosling gets ahead soon. I believe he will be like a new signing

  • 82 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    Just rewatching the game – is it just me or were Blackburn pretty much playing for free kicks & penalties all game…?

    And shameful performance from Phil Dowd. I would go as far as to say he looked like he wanted to even the odds.

    And I don’t think we were as luck as a lot of people keep saying. Their best chance, by some way, was when Best almost scored an own goal!

  • 83 laurent roberts left boot // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByiwpHY7F1I&feature=youtu.be cheik tiote documentary, subtitles start about a minute and a half in i think, good watch

  • 84 MonsterMagnet // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Remember Andy O’Brien? The lad’s had a rough time recently with depression, but he’s getting back to fitness for Leeds. I’m sure Toon fans would want to wish him well. Howay Andy man.

    http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120131/andy-obrien-a-club-statement_2247585_2595147

  • 85 jesperfuglsang // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    @ToonDownSouth

    I hear what your saying and I know what you mean, but I am with Catchy on this one.

    We bought continental players who are not used to 4-4-2; they are used to flashy football mate ;) lol

  • 86 jesperfuglsang // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    @Hoovernose

    They are not wingers in traditional sense, they are attacking right og left midfield/forwards. Obertan show you that yesterday as well.

    Joans is far more competent when he goes forward and inside.

    You are even saying that can’t cross ;)

    You guys need to snap out of the 4-4-2 mentality and move on. We did that 10 years ago. We don’t have the midfield to pull of a 4-4-2 and we haven’t had the attack until now that we have bought Papisto.

    This is a pointless discussion – we’ll take is from next season. Pardew is bound to wake up sooner or later.

  • 87 ToonIcon // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    I think Pardew deserves a lot of credit he has brought Perch on leaps and bounds from last season when perch did look really poor
    But it goes to show if you have a management team like pardew and carver who are willing to work the players on the traing ground improvements can be made

  • 88 Sgt. Heagerty // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:53 PM

    Car-toon,

    I’m a 29 year old yank who has spent the last ten years overseas fighting alongside Brits in Iraq and crisscrossing between tours in Korea, Italy etc….I’m not pretending ti be anybody I am a well traveled medically retired.soldier who loves the toon and encorperates all types of lingo into my vocabulary so I’m not a simple son of a batch like yourself, ive been on this blot for 5 years I’m not the one, find some other softy on here to start shite with keyboard commando lol,

  • 89 Sgt. Heagerty // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    Klatoon, thanks mate

  • 90 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    jesper

    Your last sentence is what sums it up though. Next season. You can’t just implement an entirely new system and style of play half way through the season. I’m all for playing tight, compact football (especially when we’re missing Tiote, Cabaye, Ba, Taylor, Marveaux & Cisse!!!!) this season.

    But next season I would like to see change. My parents live in Southampton, so I saw a lot of Pardew’s Southampton team, and they played scintilating stuff. He just didn’t have the players to do so until now.

  • 91 jesperfuglsang // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:08 PM

    @ToonDownSouth

    Hehe :)

    I’ll hold you to that come next season :) lol

    TDS, I gotta say I don’t think Ba is going anywhere next season – not if we finish high this season. Even if it looks horrific at times.

  • 92 jesperfuglsang // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:10 PM

    @ToonDownSouth

    By the way, I have a friend that studied a year a the University of Southampton – he said it was one of the best Universities in all of Britain.

    But that’s 6 or 7 years ago :)

  • 93 martoon // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    Sgt. Heagerty – take no notice – there are some idiots on here who think that if you are not born within 5 miles of the Tyne or regularly attend matches then you cannot possibly be a Toon supporter.
    The majority of us welcome anybody with a shared love of the NUFC. As a matter of interest why the Toon?

  • 94 SurefootedShola // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20120202/campbell-scores-for-england_2281670_2597921 Think this kid will make it all the way.

  • 95 max // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:20 PM

    i would still prefer ryan and guthrie in the middle. and please, no more ameobi in first eleven. he can only play good as subs.

  • 96 G // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    Perhaps I have been harsh in the past towards James Perch, however, I will continue to support him as long as his displays continue to improve. If I ever see him start at Right Back again though, I may have to wet myself a little!

  • 97 NUFCarter // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    Tbh there’s not that many neggars on here I mean everyone bitches about shola and you can’t be happy when we lose Im just enjoying this season and don’t want it to end till we get that 4th position and the champs league spot

  • 98 NUFCarter // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:26 PM

    Posting has got better since Brutoon has weirdly stopped putting his views on shola on every post

  • 99 NUFCarter // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    James perch is a prem/champ standard he’ll get regular startsbfor a team like Bolton and we are lucky to have him

  • 100 MacToon // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    The supporters of this fine club that I have so much respect for are the travelling “Toon Army”, through thick n thin they travel the length and breadth of the country to support our team and give their very vocal support.

    Living in Tyneside or more importantly in and around Newcastle it is so easy to “live n breath” NUFC. Whether at home, work, bars, general socialising or even at the bleeding supermarket it is so easy to get drawn into Toon talk and so often or not with total strangers, to say we’re footy mad would probably be an understatement.

    I love the way the club have fans all over the world, supporters even who’ll support the club as and when they can but I wish that some fans and supporters not lucky enough to live in Newcastle would bear in mind the total commitment of some in the area who cannot escape the madness that is NUFC.

    Respect those who’s opinions are different to your’s, everyone has a story to tell, an opinion to share but hey we don’t have to ram it down people’s throats.

  • 101 GeordieCoaster // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:50 PM

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/newcastle-striker-shola-ameobi-targeted-by-race-hate-6298449.html

    Regardless of what your opinion of Shola is as a footballer, this is not on.

  • 102 CaptainGeordie // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:51 PM

    Top Four players last night:
    Shola,Shola,Shola,Shola.

  • 103 Dannyo // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    @surefootedshola
    Adam Campbell is a hybrid between Scholes and Rooney, he’s gonna be amazing. I hereby state he will have his bow for the first team next season already.
    U can quote me on that.

  • 104 CaptainGeordie // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    Was Andy Walker last night commentators for wor game ?.

  • 105 ToonIcon // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:57 PM

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/02/police-racist-newcastle-shola-ameobi

    This is beyond out of order shows theres still a sub culture of inbread filth in this country

  • 106 James_NUFC_92 // Feb 2, 2012 at 4:57 PM

    I want to finally get to a match at St James Park this season , it’s about a 5 and a half hours of driving , not sure if I will drive down early in the morning or hotel it the night before yet but can anyone give me advice on where I could stay , any seats I should try to get etc ?

    Thanks in advance :)

  • 107 drongo // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:00 PM

    My 2 pennerth on yesterday

    The genius sub, I think could quite easily have been suicidal. We scored our jammy goal before Perch came on…. point that seems to be getting missed.

    I thought HBA was actually looking like the only player we had that was capable of doing something to change the game.
    He ran down a few blind alleys, but when your strikers have the pace and movement of a couple of oil rigs playing one of them in is a bit tricky.

    On the other hand we got a bit of luck going our way again – almost the fulham game in reverse.
    They bossed the game, we scored a lucky deflection and caught them on the break when they pushed up too far…

    I do also think that we will adapt the system when everyone is fit. Tiote Guthrie Cabaye is a pretty tidy midfield 3 if we go that way. Can work that with 1 up top and wingers (Mourinho style) or 3 proper forwards (like ManC)

  • 108 CaptainGeordie // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    James_NUFC_92: I stayed at The Newgate Hotel when I went to see Newcastle United against Man United.The hotel is decent,It is cheap.

  • 109 James_NUFC_92 // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:03 PM

    Thanks mate I’ll look into it , can’t wait to go :)

    Is it hard to get tickets , was going to try and get tickets for the derby if I can

  • 110 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    Dannyo, you might be right, but quite likely at another club. Very good chance he will be loaned out?

  • 111 James_NUFC_92 // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    Could you link me to the hotel please mate ?

  • 112 CaptainGeordie // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:07 PM

    James_NUFC_92: I hope you enjoy your first game,James.You will love it !.

  • 113 Jonny // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:09 PM

    We should have our strongest team against Sunderland bar Taylor!!!
    Krul
    Simpson
    Coloccini
    Williamson
    Santon
    Ben Arfa
    Cabaye
    Tiote
    Jonas
    Ba
    Cisse

    Can’t wait for that starting XI to have a few games in a row.

  • 114 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:10 PM

    Shame to see racism towards another nufc player in the space of a month. Were these comments made on the nufc.co.uk FB feed anyone? It’s pretty brutal on there.. as bad as this page in full swing.

  • 115 Sgt. Heagerty // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:10 PM

    Whoever asked.me.why the.toon ed did a story on me back in 2008 cant remember when, but my first tour in Iraq back in 2003 we had an Iraqi orphan we let live on our firebase cuz he was homeless and he loved the toon had a Newcastle strip and that was his only shirt. He taught me about the toon and I fell in love, ask ed for the story sure its in archives

  • 116 Sgt. Heagerty // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    That’s the short version ed wrote a nice piece on it

  • 117 CaptainGeordie // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    James: http://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/qualityhotelnewcastle.html?aid=311076;label=hotel-102930-gb-50TFLB9tYP0TxRluDrb9yAS4271909190;ws=&gclid=COnmrILl_60CFe4htAodAzLQtg

  • 118 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    By the way, hope that whoever was abusing Shola gets what they deserve. Disgrace. Skin colour should be irrelavent in this day and age.

    Further more, he is a top fella.

    It seems that Demba 1 and 2 flew back today? Awesome. Hope they destroy Villa on Sunday

  • 119 -Tendo- // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM

    James_NUFC_92 – i went up for the first time in jan for the man u game, 6 hours drive! not the most pleasent….but was worth every second after that result!!

  • 120 Crow59Cdo // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    @Sgt. Heagerty

    What are/were you in??

  • 121 danuneek // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:22 PM

    What’s everyone complaining about. We’re 5th!

    I admit last night wasn’t great, but, and it’s a big but … our whole central unit was missing. Cabaye, Tiote, Ba, Cisse and Taylor.

    It was a makeshift team that road its luck.

    If anything it highlighted that some of our squad players are good, and others not so much.

    For me … Guthrie, Best and Willo are decent squad players. Never look out of place and fit straight in. Best always suprises me, he has a really good touch and technique.Whereas Strolla, he just looks like he’s not bothered. Perch is not good, Pardew is just trying to be positive as we didn’t sign a center back. He’s hardly going to call his players crap, he needs them to think they’re good even if they aren’t.

    For me Santon has to move to right back. We need a new left back who’s left footed and has a good cross.

    Ben Arfa is really frustrating as everyone knows how good he can be, but last night he was terrible. He really needs to learn when to pass. Jonas is equilly frustrating.

  • 122 VanToonMan // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:23 PM

    Agree with you Jonny…cannot wait for our full strength team to be back playing together…how awesome would it be if S. Taylor was back fit for a few games at the end….Collo s awesome but him and Collo together for the first 12 games of the season ridiculously solid! Who would people say is our best XI with a full strength team??

  • 123 GeordieCoaster // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:23 PM

    @boater I think it was on the official FB, yes

  • 124 CaptainGeordie // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:23 PM

    Same with me Tendo,Driving from London to Newcastle was like hell with my Grandfatha driving,braking hard ever so often !.But the Man United game made up for the shocking drive up.

  • 125 Robby Bobson // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:23 PM

    Anyone know a good place to park matchday??

    I usually get the train in and back in the day I used to park at the Uni but they went and bloody built on where I used to park…..

    Any suggestions?

  • 126 Tsunki // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    Is the racist comment thingy about Shola on FB connected in any way to the insane Shola bashers we have been seeing on here? I only ask because there is mysteriously no sign of planbob, roshan, Indian on here (at first glance)?

  • 127 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    Robby Bobson – around the back of the Hancock museum – cheap and a bit quieter. If you want to be sure, park and get the metro from Gosforth, REgent centre or some such outskirt.

  • 128 Rotonda heights // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    tsunki

    brutoon is the worse shola basher!!

  • 129 Robby Bobson // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:32 PM

    Boater – cheers mate ill give that a try

  • 130 fgb224lbs // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    does anybody here have @sholameobi on twitter. one of the funniest accounts I’ve ever seen

  • 131 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    I recommend everyone has a good read of this. It should do a good job of reminding everyone where our minds were 6 months ago, and keep expectations on the low.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/aug/08/premier-league-preview-newcastle-united

  • 132 Tsunki // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    rotonda – yeah! Weird though isn’t it? They’ll probably surface now I’ve said this.

  • 133 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    Tsunki – believe it or not, it’s a whole new level of abusive comments on the FB feed. As loopy as Indian Mag, et al are in their surreal wind-up, stuck-record routines, I haven’t seen anything racist on here: just the standard xenophobia with a dash of the old homophobia and misogyny for good measure.

  • 134 -Tendo- // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    CaptainGeordie – i came from pompey! was horrific! But can’t wait to come up again….hopefully for the liverpool ame

  • 135 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    And this -

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/aug/12/premier-league-predictions

    My favorites include

    Best Signings – Charlie Adam, Ashley Young, N’Zogbia, Phil Jones. Wow.

    First Managerial Casualty – Pardew

    Relegation – Newcastle, Norwich

  • 136 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    TDS – you’re all over the Grauniad today mate. Is Football Weekly Extra up yet? Looking forward to this one.

  • 137 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Yeah just got uploaded :)

  • 138 Robby Bobson // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    ToonDownSouth – whoever that bald geezer talking on the video is, he knows what he is talking about, had some good points.

    Most people said we were going down simply because these so called ‘experts’ hadnt heard of the likes of Cabaye and Santon.

    Jeff Sterling admitted the other day he had never heard of Cabaye so had us in the bottom three.

  • 139 -Tendo- // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    ToonDownSouth -Great read!

  • 140 Munster Mag // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Catchy in Portugal . if you think that little of Pardew, you’re one dumb mofu.

  • 141 london_mag // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    hes not a londoner hes from Nottingham, did you take a guess and just go with it?

  • 142 london_mag // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    otherwise i wouldve seen him about

  • 143 VanToonMan // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    Guys i know it quite likely won’t happen but IF we did finish the season in 4th place….how much do you guys think Ashley would give Pardew to spend in the summer window?…knowing we would need a bigger squad and could attract better players etc

  • 144 roshan MAGPIE // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    I am here only TSUNKE

  • 145 Robby Bobson // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Back on topic, Perch came in and did a good shift covering in front of the defence.

    Although against Villa I dont think he will be needed as I think Guthrie will boss Petrov and Clark off the park, so maybe someone better technically can come in, Abeid maybe who does have abit of bite about him as well.

  • 146 Robby Bobson // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    VanToonMan

    I think it will be business as usual in the case that if a player is good value then we’ll get them in. Should be more to spend but I very much doubt we will be splashing big on big name players.

    Why would we if we finish above Liverpool and Chelsea who have done that.

  • 147 VanToonMan // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Robby Bobson

    I agree but I think europe, especially champions league, is a completely different ball game. A lot of our achievement this season has been down to the team spirit, work-ethic and bodies-on-the-line type defending. And when you’re playing midweek in europe, it’s then much harder to do that again on the weekend in the premier league.

    I think our squad will need a lot more depth…we need to strive for the 1 quality and 1 decent player per position.

  • 148 Sgt. Heagerty // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Crow,

    Been in several units, first tour 2003-2005 in Baghdad I was in c.co. 2/12 cav 1st cavalry division, 2nd tour in Iraq 2007-2008 I was in c co. 2/153 infantry 39th light infantry brigade, also was in 1/72 armor 2nd infantry division

  • 149 roshan MAGPIE // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    after BLACKBURN game i still think that Ameobi sucks and i am really impressed with perch though

  • 150 rknufc // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    when do the newcastle v sunderland tickets go on sale and would i be able to buy a few

  • 151 fgb224lbs // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    roshan. normally i tell you to stop slagging off shola but today im in agreement that he was exceptionally poor last night for the most part. especially when he received the ball to feet

  • 152 Sgt. Heagerty // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    My 2nd tour we protected a half of all the fuel, ammo, and food that came into Iraq…..talking 3 to 5 day convoy security from Jordan all the way through anbar province, rutbah,haditha, al hit, ramadi, taquadam and fallujah all the way to Baghdad, my first tour we kicked in doors on the westside of Baghdad from 03-05 in the neighborhood of al amiriya,abu ghraib(the city not the prison the prison was 30 clicks away never went there the city was a nonstop firefight,) we did.counter morter,counter ied patrols, regular movement to contact patrols(basically just rolling around getting into fights,) and we were so good they sent us to najaf for the fighting there in 2004, then I hooked up with some Brits in Basra and najaf…then we ended up getting attached to the first Marne division of the marines in late October and took fallujah plus a couple lovely towns outside called Farris town(home of Saddam’s retired cronies) and another hotbed called al carma, and I finished up in 05 running with Brits and marines securing the triangle of death south of Baghdad, mamadiyou, iskandriya, latifiya, etc….

  • 153 ross armstrong // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    here is my prediction for the rest of the season!!!
    Sun 05 13:30 H Aston Villa WIN
    Sat 11 17:30 A Tottenham LOSE
    Sat 25 15:00 H Wolves WIN
    March
    Sun 04 12:00 H Sunderland WIN
    Mon 12 20:00 A Arsenal LOSE
    Sat 17 15:00 H Norwich City WIN
    Sun 25 16:00 A WBA LOSE
    April
    Sun 01 13:30 H Liverpool DRAW
    Sat 07 15:00 A Swansea City DRAW
    Mon 09 15:00 H Bolton WIN
    Sat 14 15:00 A Chelsea LOSE
    Sat 21 15:00 H Stoke City WIN
    Sat 28 15:00 A Wigan Athletic DRAW
    May
    Sat 05 15:00 H Manchester City LOSE
    Sun 13 15:00 A Everton DRAW
    From our remaining 15 matches i think we will pick up 22 points , with 6 wins, 5 defeats and 4 draws !!
    22 points will bring us to 61 POINTS which is FANTASTIC and that should defintley give us a big chance of qualifying for europe!! anything is possible now we have the two dembas back HWTL

  • 154 Sgt. Heagerty // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    I was retired from the army in November of 2010 due to injuries stacking up from ied explosions and wear and tare from.ripping and.running so long injuries mount up.got hit with an Jed in August of 2008 on route mobile in between rutbah and the exit for al hit, flipper my armored security vehicle. No shrapnel that time but tore up my shoulder kneck and back, plus a nice bruised brain they call it traumatic brain injury, got medevac to landstual hospital in kaiserslaturn Germany, spent two weeks in hospital there and then another week doing mental rehabbing, drinking and watching football at all.the pubs in k-town lol

  • 155 Sgt. Heagerty // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    That clear everything up…

  • 156 Robby Bobson // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    We really should be supporting Liverpool in the Carling Cup Final and for Man Utd to meet Arsenal in the FA cup final….we in europe then unless we have a second half season collapse and dont finish 7th.

  • 157 roshan MAGPIE // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    i dont know where these people boom boom tsunki and all others during the match when Ameobi starts lots of people here start to abuse Ameobi ten times than i do they dont even have the guts to talk at that time

  • 158 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    Just a quick observation, that assuming papiss will be a regular starter (we all hope and pray he will), then we are missing 5 guaranteed starters from the team.
    Taylor
    Tiote
    Cabaye
    Ba
    Cisse

    It is the spine of the team from back to front. How can we be expected to play our very best football with those players absent? Many people had us down to lose last night, and then when we win, but the performance isn’t great, they moan!!!! But when we batter Brighton and lose, they also moan!!

    I ask this, if Man City were missing the following players,

    Kompany
    Yaya Toure
    Silva
    Aguero
    Balotelli/Dzeko

    Would they be top of the league? No chance. They are missing the Toure brothers at the minute and Kompany had been suspended, and they lost a few games.

    No team is invincible, and every time we pick up points it is a massive achievement. A Championship team from 20 months ago is now 5th in the league. On a very strict budget. Hughton was great for us but for me there is no doubt that Pardew has taken us up a notch. His confidence filters to the players, and even Lover said last week that when you are not starting he still has loads of time for every player. We have a manager who is learning, but doing it well with a great squad of genuine lads.

    I am very proud that we have a team like ours who always try. And when the 5 mentioned return, along with some new additions, we could really turn some heads in the near future. We have an opportunity this season to get into Europe, but remember that top half was the aim all along. We are massively OVERACHIEVING yet people still moan. Can’t believe it to be honest. I am buzzing at what Pardew and the team have done so far.

  • 159 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    Sorry, that wasn’t as quick as it was meant to be!!!!!!!!!!

  • 160 Offkey // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    Roshan – Do you not think some people dont respond because they are WATCHING the match rather than BITCHING about it………..

  • 161 roshan MAGPIE // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    http://www.themag.co.uk/

  • 162 roshan MAGPIE // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    well there IS always time during the half time break to talk about it OFFKEY

  • 163 brobrotwins // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    i was going to stay away tonite until the dust settled and the downers had cheered up but i had to come on to say colloccini was i thought quality last nite he made several last ditch tackles never stopped running if it wasnt for him we would had leaked at least 3 goals what was his rating by the sun a 5 a fuc**ng 5 come on sun sort it out he was never a 5 especialy when kompany got a 4 when he got red carded just really annoys me ( yes i have him in the dream team ) and to top it off givet got dream team star man yes he played well but he leaked 2 goals surely he couldnt have got it ffs

  • 164 Marty-Toon // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    AP is off his heed when he says our defence did well,
    We were the luckiest team ever.
    Collo and Krul did well and Simmo saved a certain goal but we were over run on the wings as our wing backs were poor in defending.
    Willo was shocking last night again but they got no help in the first half from midfield.
    Ben Arfa did so poor it left Rayls having to run around the place covering for him-he was a total liability to the team and why AP waited so long to change it I donno but at least he did.
    Although we have also seen Tiote have some shockers so every player has an off day,just some seem to have them too often.
    If and when we get to Europe we will need about 6 more decent back up players of quality and not what we’ve go now or we’ll be a joke.
    The club is goin in the right direction for many donkey years.
    If we can get some of the defensive targets through the door in the summer we will be looking sweet

  • 165 catchy in norway // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    Munster Masterbating Mag // Feb 2, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    hmmm,, not sure which point your getting at, maybe you should go hide under the quilt and lock the door, that little thing between your legs is not just for pissing out off :)

  • 166 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:49 PM

    sirtoongospel – It’s bizarre isn’t it. We have lurched from one car crash to the next in the past 9 or 10 years. We have stability, some cracking first team players, including 3 or 4 players that should make the premiership team of the season. We are making progress on the pitch, and keeping our noses clean off it.

    There remain question about Ashley as it’s still early days in his revolution of the club. I’m still dead against the stadium name change for e.g. but I like our new shrewdness and competitive edge.

  • 167 m.a // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:49 PM

    although it is true 5 key players, do not forget that Blackburn have also missed few key players like yakubu, samba. in short, it was not the best performance. anyway top teams always win ugly and we should focus on the positivity of the match

  • 168 calvinzolamakongo // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:50 PM

    Ross with 61 PTS last year would of put us 1pt off 5th and with the so called top 5 from last year dropping points here there and everywhere who know where we will be so personally I think we should aim for 60 points and that’s what pards should aim for and if we get that superb anything else a bonus but it will be hard even though I think some of your predictions are genorous to the Other teams me personally I think we will take more points off Chelsea and maybe a point off city spesh if we are in a good position

  • 169 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    Marty-Toon

    the players we have now are 5th in the league!!! Please explain how they will be a joke?

    The midfield was woeful first half last night – no exceptions, and the defence worked miracles to try and keep them out. Williamson was very slow last night but headed everything. Colo was superb, Simpson was cracking I thought and Santon just got caught out when he was trying to push forward.

    We have 5 players to come back into the starting line up, but the squad we have now is 5th. Hardly a joke?

    I give up sometimes.

  • 170 m.a // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    any news about the arrival of our Senegalese strikers?

  • 171 dazza // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    Nice to read an unbiased piece from Sky Sports

    http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,,12088_7474567,00.html?

  • 172 boater // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    Marty toon – I have never heard someone so vexed for so long after a win. You’re a footballing purist – I’ll give you that. It was away to relegation threatened Blackburn for the 4th meet of the season – it was always going to be scrappy. 9 times out of 10 we lose that fixture.

    What is it they say about luck? The greatest quality a general can possess.

  • 173 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    boater

    The name change would be slightly – emphasis on ‘slightly’ – easier to take if I had any confidence that it won’t still be the SDA in 12 months time.

    However I don’t.

  • 174 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    Boater,

    yeah i agree. Things look positive. Team of the year will be interesting. Krul is in a fight with Vorm I think. Colo will be in with a shout, our two centre mid boys Cabaye and Tiote will be considered (Yaya is a cert for one) and with all going well demba will be in for sure, with hopefully 23-24 goals.

    It just seems to me that some of the criticism is harsh. we are on an upward curve, and while that is happening, we should be pleased. As soon as we go backwards, then fair enough, speak up. The management and players deserve slightly more patience as we are still a relatively “new” Prem team.

  • 175 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    I’m not so sure about the ‘luck’ aspect. It’s not like we won because of poor decisions or near misses. There’s only so many times we can say Pardew is getting lucky – there’s nothing wrong with doing exactly what needs to be done to win.

    Infact the referee was absolutely shocking – generally in favor of Blackburn – and the closest Blackburn came to scoring by some way was when Best hit our own crossbar.

    The statistics look good for Blackburn, but of those 1000 shots they had, I can count the number from inside the box on one hand.

  • 176 Agent Stardust // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:06 PM

    I drove to Blackburn last night and had a nice trip down, nice meal, nice walk around Blackburn, a nice 4 minutes of injury time and a nice trip home.

    The only bad bit was the 90mins of the game I had to watch. And why was it so bad?

    Because of those 2 mugs up front again. Just as predicted before this match, and Brighton, and Fulham, and QPR etc etc.

    The whole team tried hard and got stuck in but those 2 simply pretend to try. And if they are really trying then we have to face it they are simply very very poor footballers and nowhere near good enough to play in the Premier League.

    Last night was very hard to watch behind that goal as the whole game was spent waiting for Blackburn to score. I was honestly chewing my nails and everytime we managed to get somewhere away from our goal, those strikers got near the ball and that was the end of the move and we were back under pressure.

    The people on here who stick up for those two havent got a clue what they are seeing. These are the 2 worst strikers we have had in years and years.

    This is also the truth. I have known for a long time that Lovenkrands simply hasn’t got it at this level and I have been pleased he no longer gets a game but I’ll tell you what I am now praying for him to come back into the frame. He has to be 3rd choice now.

    Best and Ameobi should never wear that shirt again no matter how short we are. They make me sick. Get rid of them.

  • 177 catchy in norway // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    i agree with some of your points,

    yes last night we were without 5 first teamers, but that dont really tell the whole storey, even when we have had them in the team , there have been plenty of matches where luck has won us the game, we have played poorly in so many games this season

    i carnt argue with the fact that we are 5th, honestly that is great,

    even with 5 players out, it was a total disgrace at brighton, pardew went there for a draw,

    we won last night, but if blackburn had a forward that could score goals, they would have murderd us, defensivly we were all over the place, they had so many good chances,

    fulham, he played with a very high line, at half time he decided to try and pinch the game and see it out, he brought perch on, went with 2 defensive midfielders, played them deep, there was no room between the defence and defensive midfielders, jol seen this, and just put pace on against them,

    he never seems to have any other plan, other than , pass it side ways, or hoof it long :(

  • 178 Agent Stardust // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    Its not Pardews fault. He hasnt yet got the players. But of all the players who take the field those 2 strikers are spoiling everything. It is supposed to be a game to entertain us. When do they entertain us?

    Terrible, terrible players. I don’t want to crticise them as people because they have been employed in a role that they arn’t good enough to fulfill. But as players, I am saying to them, ‘You both make me sick and I really wish you would both **** right off out of the town’.

    Go and play for Darlington or West Allotment Celtic if either of you can get a game.

  • 179 LewSpi // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    ManUre Youth v Swansea youth

    http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/31831/1/-manchester-united-youth-vs-swansea-youth-live-stream-online.html

  • 180 tomtoon7 // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    cant wait 4game on sunday,decent strikeforce av the villians.Faith in ba 2get back his scorin boots.Cmon the toon!

  • 181 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    catchy,

    square pegs in round holes springs to mind. With the best 11 he has, we can’t play attractive football. However, when Tiote domintaes and allows Cabaye to play, we might just look better, especially with 2 mobile forwards. (papiss works just as hard as Demba).

    We need at least one more genuine winger, Hoilett was cracking last night other than his shocking cheating, which has really put a lot of people off him.

    Willo is really slow though and a ball over the top is our achilles now. Especially with Santon pushing on. SAnton needs to reign it in a bit, or we need a fast CB. But it’s not major surgery to make our team a brilliant one.

  • 182 Agent Stardust // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    tomtoon

    Tell you what I am worried about for Sunday.
    Oardew has a knack of making a player work his way back into the team. Maybe its an injury to a current player, or the player returning has a few sub appearances etc.

    It honestly won’t surprise me if Best and Ameobi start and Demba and Dave are on the bench. If that happens I will totally lose all faith in Pardew.

    D and D need to start that game.

  • 183 Offkey // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Agent – Some criticism is justified some isn’t. The only mug is the one that thinks he knows it all…….

  • 184 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Anyway, roll on Sunday, 2 of them back. Not long before Yohan returns and then the biggest boost of all when Cheick comes back. Longer for Saylor, unfortunately for him and us.

  • 185 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    Guthrie is a very good player, but the thing about Tiote is that the game never passes him by. If he’s not involved, he’s constantly looking to change that. Such an unbelievable presence, and he’s been sorely missed.

  • 186 Wor Shearer // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    From the predictions people are making, it seems that to finish with less than 60 points would be a disappointment and anything over 65 impossible.

    I think if our best team click like they did at the beginning (before Dec), I don’t think +65 is that crazy.

    I for one would actually be surprised at a finish less than 60 (depending on injuries, of course), which I would NEVER have thought at the start of the season…..so proud of the boys for what they’re achieving atm!

  • 187 Crow59Cdo // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    @Sgt Heagerty
    lol well ill be honest i wasnt expecting an autobiography but cheers for the info, i didnt read the above to realise your an american so was a suprise to find you in a NUFC blog

  • 188 tomtoon7 // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    surely demba ba wil start,cisse on the bench shocka amoebi sittin at home watchin on the box.

  • 189 alex84 // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    Ben arfa will be dropped now, which is a joke, yeah he didn’t play great, nor against Brighton…it seems that everyone else can have a bad game but not get dropped, I think he is being made a scapegoat, I feel sorry for the bloke he gets his chance when our best striker/strikers are not around and has to play with 2 championship strikers in best an ameobi, who are statues, if I was Benny I’d be greedy as well, lets be honest…ameobi and best are gash its as simple as that. Thank fudge senagal were dumped out.

  • 190 SurefootedShola // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    We’re now 22/1 to break into the top 4 with Skybet. Glad I had my tenner on it whilst we were at 50s :P

  • 191 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    Wor Shearer, 65 points? If that was achieved and included beating Chelsea, then it’s possible we could finish 4th. Chelsea are suspect.

    Aesenal will drop points and Liverpool might just have bigger fish to fry (2 cups)

    Hopefully we will get 8 more wins. Looking at the fixtures, it’s not far fetched at all.

  • 192 Toon Tang // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    good to see ba still 2nd in top scorers , same as when he left. he can crack on and win it now if he likes.

  • 193 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    If Pardew chooses to start Ameobi up front, then he must have a perfectly valid reason for it.

    Or is he just sabotaging us, as part of some boardroom conspiracy to prevent us threatening Tottenham, because Ashley’s a Spurs fan.

  • 194 PLAN Z // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    @nickfish90

    Lookin and stop/starting that dive vid, what I don’t get is why Hoilett wasn’t carded. If it wasn’t a dive it should have been a penalty, if it was a dive then it was definitely simulation and should have been a booking – or have I missed something

  • 195 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    alex84
    Who is playing against Villa then? Seems u have the team sheet rather early

  • 196 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    TDS
    Nar he is a secret Liverpool fan thats why he sold Jose and Carroll to them! Its blatent when u think about it….first match in we win against Liverpool (hadnt had time to implement his dastardly plan) and since then have we beat them? ;)

  • 197 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:40 PM

    hey lads
    i do not post very often, but read alot in here..
    Before the season started i predicted us to end 6th..
    Nobody agreed with me and called me crazy etc…

    Where are you lads today?

    I am even thinking that we will end higher than 6th..
    4th is not far away lads!
    I honestly think the fight for 4th is between us and Chelski!
    Arsenal have the cup and ch league to thinke about, and without Persie, they are sh1te!
    Liverfool have both cups to think about, and they are really not that good, are they?!

  • 198 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    wwjbd..
    i think you called me alot of funny things back in august/september, when i said we would end 6th!

    “what have you been smoking”

    Remember?

    LOL

    HWTL

  • 199 Wor Shearer // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    sirtoongospel, 8 wins would require us to improve our current season average.

    If we continue our current form for the rest of the season, our record for the last 15 games will be 7W4D4L, which works out as 64 points at the end of the season.

    I agree though, I think that with the Dembas, Tiote, Cabs, Marv and HBA back on form….we can certainly improve!

  • 200 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    danishmag

    That’s because you were crazy to suggest that – and still are now haha. I’ll still be over the moon with 7th.

    The problem is, we’re 9 points clear of 8th. If we slip up, it’ll be absolutely gutting – even though we’d have been happy with top half 6 months ago.

    That old expression “The only way is down” :|

  • 201 Offkey // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    Danish – Never called you crazy for saying we would get sixth (as I thought the gamble could go one way or another). What I did have a disagreement about was your support of MA and to be honest, I do see him in a slightly better light now. So I will gladly accept defeat (for now)

  • 202 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    danishmag
    Haha aye I probably did but hey I cant be right all the time, welcome to the 1% club ;) haha

    However a lot of things have aligned in order for us to be 5th right now and no one could of reasonably predicted how the season has gone so at the time ur touts of top 6th we not baised in reality but rather ur own optomism

  • 203 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    On a different note has there been any suggestion of when Marv could be fit again? I keep hearing differing reports on the matter varrying between 2 weeks to next season

  • 204 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    TDS..
    Adding the many points we have with what we should be getting in the rest of the games, we will end 4-6!
    Its really not impossible..
    We have Ba and Cissé coming back now.. And in two games Cabaye is back, and another game Tioté as well.
    We have a really really strong team, with som great goalscorers too!

    offkey..
    Spot on mate ;o)
    Our club has not looked this good in many years!

  • 205 Dannyo // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    Thinking of the summer transfer window has me both excited and nervous at the same time.
    Excited to see the players we’ve been linked with, especially through the January window. Allot of these has been said to be “summer targets” instead. Instead of thinking of who we didn’t sign in January, lets think about who we might sign in the summer.
    It makes me nervous tho to see who might leave. Key players like Tiote, Krul, Collo, Cab, Ba, HBA… Immense, integral and fantastic players. Great players and great personalities.

    I’m afraid some of them staying hinges on us reaching Europe. That 5/6th spot could make or break our spine. Dear god, i hope we’re on excellent form the last 15 matches. If we can match the 15 first, we’ll make it.

  • 206 Dannyo // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:52 PM

    @WWJBD
    I’ll give u the one and only true answer. He’s due a return in the middle of march.
    He’s starting running a bit again now, but has quite a bit rehab to do on his injury to strengthen it.
    U can quote me on this, cause Marveux said it himself in a NUFCTV interview from Tenerife.

  • 207 Marty-Toon // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    @sirtoongospel and boater
    What I’m getting at is if we get to Europe and were missing 5top players as you say( whoever they are?tiote,Cabaye,BA(cisse has just joined so we weren’t missing him from our first team,he has never played)tayls but that’s what you get in a season with injuries n so on.
    If we get to Europe with the reserves we have we would be easily found out when injuries hit as they do.
    As regards to AP,he always paints a prettier picture than there is.
    We were poor,looked poor in the last two games but he says the stats show this n that.
    Maybe he’s the man manager n uses the positivity to help build the players up but as we’ve all said competition for places helps but it needs to be quality to push the 1st teamers

  • 208 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:55 PM

    wwjbd
    spot on mate ;o)

    Marv.. He is a super player, but he will have a dificult time gaining a spot in the team!

    I am thinking that the squad is becoming ready to play both for premier league and europe next year!

    A couple of defenders and one striker, and we look mighty solid in all areas

  • 209 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

    Dannyo
    Ah cheers mate, really looking forward to seeing him play again the few appearences he has made were exciting. Hope he is eased back into it though no more groin trouble for the lad

  • 210 Wor Shearer // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    @danishmag

    Don’t forget Marveux! he’s supposed to back around the Arsenal game, which means we should have him for about 10 games….not bad at all!

  • 211 tomtoon7 // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    hopefully this team 4sunday Krul simpson collo willo
    raylor(keep hold of nsomnias shirttails)guthrie perch jonas ben arfa demba ba. Of course if ba’s r back?Any news on that anyone

  • 212 GeordieGesus // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    WWJBD, this is from NUFC.com. Hope it helps.

    Sylvain Marveaux MID French Vennes 15.04.1986 Groin ??.??.2012

    :-)

  • 213 Dannyo // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    @Marty-Toon
    Regarding Pardew painting a prettier pciture.
    I think he’s extremely vary of critizising his players publically.
    I don’t think he’s as blind as some say he is. For example, keeping Obertan in the team.
    It’s was a matter of Obertan building confidence, after allot of matches he saw that it was not happening and he was getting critizised, so he took him out of the firing line. It’s called man management.
    IF he critizes players, he does so as a collective and he talks about the match as a whole.
    He’ll only single out players for praise, and actually quite often the fringe ones, such as Perch and Obertan.

    If he critizes a player, he’ll do that in a private way i belive, the way it should be. Only one he’s singled out is HBA, but it may be the only way HBA listens as far as we know.
    He’s our only “special case” as far as i’m aware.

  • 214 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    danishmag
    I think Marv wont be considered for starting until next season tbh. Pards takes his time bringing players back to first team action after a injury.

    Aye a few additions (both to the first team and the reserves) in the summer and we could be able to compete in Europa though it could damage our PL season

  • 215 Dannyo // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    @WWJBD
    As i understand it, they’re well aware of him being prone to injury, so i’d like to think they’ll strengthen the area where he gets the injuries more often.
    I think he’ll be a massive player, i was so gutted when he got injured, and even more so when he was gonna be out so long.
    U can bet he’ll be back for a final 5-8 matches.

  • 216 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    GG
    Haha crystal clear now mate thank you

  • 217 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM

    wor shearer..
    you are so right..
    Marveaux could give us the final boost in the final stages of this season.
    But i think he will only be coming on from the bench.
    Tioté, Cabaye, Guthrie, Ben Arfa, Taylor, Jonas and Obertan are in front of him for midfield spots!
    Vuckic too perhaps.. He has looked good, when he has been on!

  • 218 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM

    Marty – fair point, the Europe thing (with the 6 or more extra games) is defo a factor.

  • 219 Marty-Toon // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    Toondownsouth you wrote

    Infact the referee was absolutely shocking – generally in favor of Blackburn – and the closest Blackburn came to scoring by some way was when Best hit our own crossbar.

    What about Simpson clearing off the line,givet had a great chance that came close.there was the penalty,that was pretty close and the follow up was saved too.
    Want me to keep going?
    Read this from someone that was at the game…

    176Agent Stardust // Feb 2, 2012 at 7:06 PM

    I drove to Blackburn last night and had a nice trip down, nice meal, nice walk around Blackburn, a nice 4 minutes of injury time and a nice trip home.

    The only bad bit was the 90mins of the game I had to watch. And why was it so bad?

    Because of those 2 mugs up front again. Just as predicted before this match, and Brighton, and Fulham, and QPR etc etc.

    The whole team tried hard and got stuck in but those 2 simply pretend to try. And if they are really trying then we have to face it they are simply very very poor footballers and nowhere near good enough to play in the Premier League.

    Last night was very hard to watch behind that goal as the whole game was spent waiting for Blackburn to score. I was honestly chewing my nails and everytime we managed to get somewhere away from our goal, those strikers got near the ball and that was the end of the move and we were back under pressure.

    The people on here who stick up for those two havent got a clue what they are seeing. These are the 2 worst strikers we have had in years and years.

    This is also the truth. I have known for a long time that Lovenkrands simply hasn’t got it at this level and I have been pleased he no longer gets a game but I’ll tell you what I am now praying for him to come back into the frame. He has to be 3rd choice now.

    Best and Ameobi should never wear that shirt again no matter how short we are. They make me sick. Get rid of them.

  • 220 check the toastie // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    Pardew wont play HBA with Ba up front i think he will maybe in time play the both of them in a three up front but currently i think it will be Ba and wait for it …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………SHOLA…………..oh my god not again………….

  • 221 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    Dannyo
    “so i’d like to think they’ll strengthen the area where he gets the injuries more often.” Haha am sure the lad would LOVE his groin to be strengthened ;) get him down the bigg market on a weekend and after a month his manly joints will be strong as a ox….might need a trip to the clinic like

  • 222 Agent Stardust // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    offkey you are a total fool.

    you criticise a genius like ashley who has never done a thing wrong . then you criticise me for saying ameobi and best are rubbish.

    it is so so funny. nothing you can ever say on here again can be taken seriously.

    i love it when idiots try to make themselves out to be clever hee hee.

    hang on maybe you have been right all along. maybe ashley is a clown. maybe he doesnt know how to run a big business. and maybe ameobi and best are good enough for the premier league. we can expect some big bids to come in for them now. but obviously we wont want to sell such good players. lets hope the toon can hang onto them.

    silly little boy

  • 223 Marty-Toon // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    Dannyo
    Agree it’s a good way to manage by speaking to them privately and not to the press.
    AP is way better than KK ever was at talking to the press,he always got too emotional-he must be a true Geordie then lol

  • 224 Thump // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    http://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-sports-streaming-domains-in-new-super-bowl-crackdown-120202/

    firstrow is dead :(

  • 225 Thump // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    http://www.firstrowsports.eu/

    Oh wait, no it isn’t!

    Christ I hate the US enforcement of this. They do this every year around Superbowl Sunday. Stupid.

  • 226 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM

    wwjbd..
    i agree on Marv.
    but think of this line up for next season:
    ——————Krul—————-
    Santon—Mbiwa—Colo—-Peiters
    ——Cabaye–Tioté–Guthrie——
    Ben Arfa—–Cissé—–Demba Ba

    Subs:
    Simmo
    S.Taylor
    Douglas
    Willo

    Jonas
    R.Taylor
    Perch (he has shown great potential lately)
    Vuckic
    Gosling

    Sa. Ameobi
    Obertan
    Marveaux
    Best
    NEW STRIKER

    Add some of the young talent to that..

    We are able to play both the premier league and europe
    with that!

  • 227 Offkey // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM

    Agent – HA

    Did I insult you?
    At certain times of the month to you get slightly hormonal?
    do you have mental issues?

  • 228 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    “you criticise a genius like ashley who has never done a thing wrong.”

    Christ I hope this was sarcasm

  • 229 Thump // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    @Offkey: Stardy is an old user of this blog and has very vehement opinions.

  • 230 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Marty Toon

    Guess I’m not allowed an opinion, sorry. I do apologise for wanting to be slightly positive about the club.

    A player blocking the ball from going in the goal isn’t luck. It’s a player being in the right place, and doing the right thing.

    Just like Krul making saves isn’t luck. He’s a world class goal keeper, and he is an employee if the club.

  • 231 beddersmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Cant help laughing at the constant ‘neggers’ arguments. As long as you back all the players at the game who cares what you say on this blog? Its not like shola is sitting reading when I call him the absolute bag of shite he clearly is. I just keep it to myself at the game like everyone should. We all have opinions and different mentalities which is what keeps this blog interesting.

  • 232 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    Lol, hormonal!!!!!

    I was at the game last night, and have a slightly different perspective on the game. But almost everyone that was there would have a different one too. That’s the beauty of football though eh?

    The team above is good, but to say that M’biwa is a better option than Saylor is harsh. Saylor is proven top class CB in the Prem.

  • 233 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    danishmag
    I doubt we will get Mbiwa if we get Douglas and I doubt Saylor would be back on the bench after Pards tied him down to a long contract and how well he played this season.

    Not sure about full backs but could be more Cissokho or Clyne imo but hey we will have to wait and see. Plus we dont know who will be leaving in the summer yet

  • 234 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    lads…
    stop pissing at one another!

    We are all magpies, arent we?

    Who smells, like they have never been washed?

    Tell me lads.. LOL

  • 235 Dannyo // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    @WWJBD
    Hahaha, well, i guess that could’ve ben articulated better..
    I apologize for my norwegian :P (kind of)
    Thinking about it tho, it does sound like an excellent way of training.
    Could u imagine the spike in groin injuries we’d have tho, lol.
    Think i’ll tell my wife i need to excersize my groin a bit tonight, lol.

    @Agent Stardust
    MA has never done anything wrong? I think u’ve stepped in the salad just then mate…

  • 236 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    wwjbd…
    i think we agree in the matter of the areas we need strenghten.. !

    And.. You are right.. We do not know ho could leave in the summer!
    That is why it is vital to end up going to play europe next season.. 4th spot, and none of the important players will leave, i think!

  • 237 Dannyo // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    @danishmagpie
    Didn’t u know mate? This is the blog of golden showers…

  • 238 Thump // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    Am I seriously the only person here who remembers Stardust?

  • 239 cyprus // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    To answer your title, Ed. No I wouldn’t believe and still don’t! Congrats to the lad for not making a fool of himself, ok. But, if you ask me, HBA would’ve done better (we’ll never know) and when he left the threat up front was all but completely eliminated, thus allowing them to attack in waves, defenders and all. The penalty could’ve easily gone in and many other chances too. We got lucky, we’ve been unlucky for decades like someone else said, that’s it. Let’s not talk about right tactics, substitutions or whatever, please, not for this game- this could’ve easily been a Fulham.

  • 240 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    Dannyo
    Haha no need to apologise mate its all true but its still funny ;)
    Haha u dirty dog

    danishmag
    Oh aye haha we need more defenders pure as day and atleast 1 striker to cover the ACoN next year. Could be a long summer though. I hope we have enough to get Europa but its a big ask for a club who were relegated not long ago

    Time will tell though

  • 241 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    dannyo…
    Wrong answer ;o)
    “The unwashed Scum” is correct LOL

    wwjbd..
    i still say 6th spot come may..
    Earlier you said 10th..
    What du you reckon now?

  • 242 Thump // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    @cyprus: I said the same thing to my mate yesterday. If Blackburn could hit a barn door with a banjo, they’d have hammered us. The only difference between the two squads is that we took our chances – they didn’t.

  • 243 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM

    Thump
    I must admit I dont recall Stardust at all

  • 244 GeordieToon89 // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:27 PM

    Dannyo – Your comment about young Adam Campbell making his first team bow next season well a totally agree he is going to be some player lets just hope we manage to keep a tight hold of him…

    Ross Armstrong – If your still here then your points and games tally well ad agree on basically everyone of those game youve been realistic aswell and were more than capable of even bettering them

  • 245 GeordieToon89 // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    That sky article by Jeff Steling im loving the fact he says Newcastle and Spurs are pushing for a champions league place haha about time someone noticed us

  • 246 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    Thump

    I said this to Marty, but he appears to be somewhat of a blog nazi. So I’ll discuss it with you :|

    I would argue that Krul making a couple of good saves, and Simpson making a block, aren’t luck – those two players are part of our squad, and they’re trained by our staff.

    Considering the penalty was a joke, and the closest Blackburn came by some way was Best’s attempt, I dont think it was as bad as some are making out.

  • 247 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    danishmag
    I would still be happy with anything above 11th but I think after the start we have had we shouldnt be looking below 7th. We could be the best of the rest as they say but whether that is how it pans out is still up in the air

  • 248 tomtoon7 // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    moaners PLEASE all sort urselves out,take a cold shower rather than golden one.HWTL

  • 249 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:34 PM

    wwjbd…
    why does everybody talk about the fact that we got relegated 3 seasons ago?
    Has everybody forgotten that it is only 9 years ago that we played champions league?
    We are not JUST a new club in the premier league, are we?
    We are way better than the teams that got promoted with us.. We are way better than QPR, Norwich and Swansea that got promoted this year.

    We are Newcastle United..

  • 250 milk or cream // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:34 PM

    cyprus // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    totally agree,,

    pardew throws perch on and invited them onto us, as he did at fulham, fulham had good forwards and punished us, blackburn didnt, we got lucky,

    you need luck, but it only lasts so long,

    the only time iv really seen us play as a team was against man u, but it was just lump it in the box for ba, which is a shame as we have a wonderful midfield, wasted on shola at the mo

  • 251 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    TDS
    Have to disagree on our overall performance last night, I thought it was one of the worst I have seen us play this season but considering who was unavaliable then its understandable

    Defence wasen’t lucky though they played fairly well imo and Krul was back to his best

  • 252 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    danishmag
    Not saying we arent better than them but we streamlined when we sank down so our depth took a beating and that hasen’t been sorted out yet plus a large part of the team that got us up are no longer here.

    No one would be expecting Swansea to be fighting for Europa next year

  • 253 MacToon // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    Thump, I remember Stardust m8 but not sure if it’s the same person as agent stardust.

  • 254 Thump // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    I agree TDS. Krul has been magnificent in 95% of the games this season and Simmo has cleared from the line on more than one occasion – Man U, Blackburn and a good few other games (Wolves sticks in my mind for some reason). Luck is defined by a one off event where the odds are firmly stacked against you – is Krul doing his job considered luck? Both his and Simmo’s positioning were excellent. To anybody who considers a block off the line “luck” really needs to play the game because there’s a lot more to it then “being in the right place at the right time”!

  • 255 dmac // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    Probably get slated for it but as Habib Beye has just been released am i the only person that thinks signing for a year as cover isnt a bad shout? After all he was player of the year for us when we got relegated. Surely he hasnt become that rubbish?

  • 256 Thump // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    @MacToon: If it isn’t, he’s a WUM trying to live off Stardy’s wonderful reputation haha

  • 257 ToonDownSouth // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    WWJBD

    I agree it was one of the worst – but Blackburn are absolutely dreadful, and our defence is decent. That’s not luck – that’s just one team being better than the other. That’s the point I’m getting at.

    I honestly think that if we played the game again, Blackburn wouldn’t score. We may not either, but Blackburn were never going to hit the back of the net.

    Considering the ref was absoultely dire, and we have half our first team out, I don’t quite understand all the fuss. Especially seeing as Pardew, Colo, Raylor, Simpson have all come out and accepted that we didn’t play well

  • 258 Thump // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM

    @dmac: He’s at the wrong end of his career mate and I doubt Ashley would pay his wages but he does love him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkyd_ZRNVNQ

  • 259 cyprus // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM

    Agreed Thump.

    On a positive note, to play up to comments like 248, I really think we can be eyeing Europe this year, realistically. All teams have been erratic (bar City, and Spurs – generally); and Chelsea who are above us are quite poor. If anyone saw their last game, even their fans, they’ll agree. So that 4th spot is even up for grabs. It will probably go to the Arsenal or Liverpool, but we are in with a real chance, with a full squad, especially if our new striker hits the ground flying.

  • 260 danishmag // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:44 PM

    wwjbd..
    As i wrote.. We are way better than Swansea, and they will never come near our level.

    I think it was healthy for the club beeing relegated.
    It was not fun, when it happened!
    But looking back.. it was healthy!

    Right.. I am off..
    Night lads..

    howay the lads

  • 261 MacToon // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    lol Thump had many a barny with Stardust but then he wrote for Worky and he changed a little, fell out with Worky, chilled a bit and then disappeared without trace. Somehow I just can’t see agent stardust writing any articles…. but I might be wrong!

  • 262 Thump // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:46 PM

    Aye, Chelsea were well lucky to get a draw like. Without Terry and his delightful banter, the team falls apart!

  • 263 check the toastie // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:46 PM

    I know perch did OK last night but he isnt a midfielded hes just a defender playing midfield, theres a big difference (Gareth Barry proves this for England-totally limited) all of a sudden people picking him to start in CM for the Villa game, for me Abeid/Vuckic/Gosling should be given a chance, if perch plays in front of them then Pardew is pretty much saying they are not gud enough.

  • 264 cyprus // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:46 PM

    dmac,
    I seem to remember he dumped us in a hurry, much like Nzog… Don’t want him. It’s players like Bellamy (I can dream) who really loved the Toon, that I regret seeing gone…

  • 265 Thump // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    Oh he didn’t change, MacToon, he just simmered down a bit lol

  • 266 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    TDS
    Its being made a fuss of, imo atleast, because people can make a fuss about it. Some just like to complain haha and those who dont like *insert name* can complain about them being picked over players they have decided are better than the starting 11 we had

    We werent great but we werent embarrassing either. It was a alright match with a great result and Obertan’s goal was a joy to watch t’boot :)

  • 267 seantoon // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    We should get habid beye back for the rest of the season. I thought he was a decent player and could still do a job for us!

  • 268 Dannyo // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    As most of you say here, yes, a 4th place is actually there for the taking this year. Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal has not been like their old self.
    Liverpool has been on a steady decline the last 3 years if u ask me.
    The way of doing things by Arsene Wenger seems to be getting outdated, cause everyone has great youngsters at this point, so he’s about to be found out.
    At the same time, Arsenal doesn’t have all the money they may have thought they would…
    Chelsea has an owner who’s probably gonna keep his pouch real tight due the accusations on him, also AVB may have been hired 3-4 years too soon imo.

    To counter this we’ve been building a few things.
    1. Financial freedom, the club is running itself WITHOUT Euro money.
    2. Focus on youth, it’s a golden year for us, and there will seemingly be more to come.
    3. The start to one of the PLs best scouting networks, which is about to be further expanded.

    We’re structuring on several fields here, and have reached the fair play goals already concerning finances.
    I think the organisation and structure is starting to become the blood of the club, and we’re seeing that being put out on the pitch aswell.

  • 269 WWJBD // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:51 PM

    danishmag
    Harsh to say Swansea will never make it to our level, have u seen how they play? They could quite easily build a wonderful team on the sly down there and get up the league. They already have a fantastic GK and a pretty solid defence, two wonderful wingers and a CM that can out pass most in the league already and a geordie striker as well.

    But night fella

  • 270 MacToon // Feb 2, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    Thump, was it true do you think that someone went round to his work? That probably simmered him a bit.

    I notice Worky changed his views considerably, I used to call him the oracle on here because he always knew everything ;) I also noticed counting 17 posts on his blog on transfer night lol

  • 271 9 // Feb 2, 2012 at 9:53 PM

    Rowan Milsted had it right about Perch as far back as comment 3. Perch is Championship quality, as are Brighton and Blackburn, where he found his level. He isn’t a CB so shouldn’t be criticised for being awful in that position (Norwich, anyone). We have top quality players now, not a full11 of them, but you need team players as well as stars and you also need squad players (Raylor, Perch) which we also have.

    One good thing for Perch is he’s got a good manager. There is only one way to judge managers, and those who doubt Pardew should open their eyes to the facts.

    Our best 11 only has 2 weaknesses – Simmo isn’t one of them (nor is he a star) and if we’re lucky the new Cisse will fill one of them, leaving only RW – HBA maybe the answer here, more likely not. There are 5 players who would improve any team in the Premier League, and that’s a lot, and just because \perch ain’t one of them doesn’t mean he doesn’t do us a job. Roll on Europe.

  • 272 Lynxie // Feb 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    I will tell you one thing. Ireland, petrov and insomnia play some decent football and zip the ball about a bit too quickly for my liking, as the one thing Danny Guthrie is not blessed with, is speed over the ground. We definately need perch in the middle as a defensive holder, to just make a nuisance of himself and break up villa’s play. they tend to play right up to the edge of teh area and slip little balls through, which (with Willaimson and Simpson present) worries the living daylights out of me. Sunday is definately a game where we can stroll, Villa are a rapidly improving team, and we need to be in the wide awake club or we will get beat.

  • 273 Lynxie // Feb 3, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    sorry guys * Sunday is a game where we can definately CAN NOT stroll.

  • 274 Lynxie // Feb 3, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    And for the record, If Perch ha dnot come on the other night, we would have been steamrollered. Guthrie needs the extra protection to allow him to play.




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