Williamson Happy With Win – Papisto Happy With Goal

10:38 am, Monday, February 6th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 142 Comments

Mike Williamson spoke to the Newcastle web-site after the game yesterday, and he’s just happy to get another 3 points for the team.

Papisto and Demba Ba after Cisse goal

Mike played okay yesterday, but we still have to tighten up at the back, and we’re still not playing as well as we did at the beginning of the season in defense.

But it was Tim Krul again who dealt with almost everything that Villa could throw at him, apart from Robbie Keane’s strike in the 50th minute of the first half, after lots of time was added for the injuries to both Leon Best and Ryan Taylor.

And we should hear more about their injuries today, and Alan Pardew is hoping there will be little damage to Ryan Taylor’s ankle, once the swelling subsides.

But it looks like Leon has knee ligament damage, and that could be six weeks out – but we should hear something official later today.

Mike talked about the game yesterday:

“ ”All the points count, and back-to-back wins is pleasing. The boys played ever so well. We always knew we had goals in the team, it was just a matter of trying to stay tight and stopping the runs in behind.”

“From front to back, we defended. They were always going to put us under some pressure – they’ve got quality players – but it was a case of limiting their chances, which I thought we did well.”

“It’s another three points and the boys are buzzing. The spirit’s high and we’ll look to keep the momentum going.”

“Demba Ba’s got quality in him that’s there for everyone to see, and so has Papiss Cisse. He’s came in and he’s also a threat, and that’s given the lads a massive boost – and the crowd.”

“It was only on Friday that he arrived and he was straight into it. What a way to mark your debut.” “He doesn’t speak a great deal of English but I’m sure he’ll catch on quickly, and the fans will take to him massively now. “

“That’ll make his confidence go up and it’ll be good for him.”

Papiss Cisse was interviewed after the game in French by nufcTV, and the translator was former Newcastle left-back Olivier Bernard.

And Papiss – Papisto is his nickname – said he was happy to score, and he thought the crowd and the atmosphere at St. James’ Park was unbelievable.

And asked if he was going to learn to speak English – Demba Ba has apparently said he will not teach him English – he said yes, that he has to learn the language – and the sooner the better.

The club are also trying to set him up in his house, and the good news is that he’s already chosen one in Newcastle.

And after the game, his Senegal team-mate Demba Ba tweeted this :

What a result for the toon army! What do you think about papisto ??????

Things are going well for Newcastle United right now, and let’s see how we can do against a good Tottenham side this coming Saturday afternoon.

Howay The Lads!!

Tags: Demba Ba · Mike Williamson · Newcastle News · Papiss Cisse

142 responses so far ↓

1 Wor Shearer // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Just been re-watching the Warnock tackle on Raylor. If that’s not ‘studs up’ I don’t know what is.

Why can’t the FA review that?

(repost)
2 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:41 AM

We’ve got the makings of a brilliant squad be assembled, with the team from yesterday we have three first team players to come in plus Marveuax to come back, things are looking good
3 Indian Magpie // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:43 AM

i hope we can accomodate HBA in our first 11
4 cyprus // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM

So AP sticks everyone’s stats (really, Everyone’s?? Wouldn’t 1 statistic be off the chart, negatively speaking?) on the board for the rest of the players to see? Interesting that Jonas has the highest work rate in all the PL, I suspected as much. That’s why I would also pick him first, ahead of Ba, Krul (deserves a raise, him), HBA, in that order.
5 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:45 AM

@ wor shearer they pick and choose when to punish people i think if ba hadnt scored the media coverage around the tackle would have forced the fa’s hand
6 sirtoongospel // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Wor Shearer, totally agree. I was in the Sports Bar at half time and Redknapp was saying, it’s a side foot so there is no intent!!!!! lol!!! so if you show your studs but turn your foot to the side, then it’s ok???!!!

The bloke is an idiot.

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7 cyprus // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Couldn’t agree more Indian Magpie. I get a feeling AP’s hand was forced due to the injuries. Cisse would’ve got on with 20 minutes to spare, I think..
8 tdt // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Villa at home is a game we looked to win if we are to be a top 4-7 team, spurs away however is not and anything from it would simply be a bonus.
9 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:51 AM

@ tdt couldnt agree more lets hope they put it all in tonight get a result for the toon and have shag all left to offer when they play us the weekend fingers and toes crossed x
10 Indian Magpie // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Also, Pardwho talks abt giving the ball away, JONAS gave the ball away yesterday, lead to a goal, no but if HBA had done that all hell would have broken loose
11 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Dont think we have anything to loose or fear going to Spurs, if we have any aspirations of being a top side we have to believe that we can at win or at the very least get a point and Spurs will now have to deal with not one but TWO Demba’s
12 Selbymag // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:58 AM

The senegal sweatbands are available on amazon £3.95 with no postage. just had to buy the bairn one.
13 Brutooon // Feb 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

i love papiss demba cisse
14 Tooooon // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:00 AM

I think if we take our chances well against Tottenham i.e score at every opportunity we get then I can really see us taking 4 points.. if that happens then perhaps even Mark Lawro will tip us for that CL spot.. anyway heres hoping and HWTLs!!!!
15 jayphoto // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:00 AM

can’t believe people are currently shouting for Ben Arfa to be in the side! Our side currently loses all shape when he plays, he was terrible against Brighton, Fulham, Blackburn away…. if you’d all close your youtube for a bit and actually watch him play a match, he needs to improve massively! Reminds me so much of Taarabt at QPR!
16 Wor Shearer // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:01 AM

@Indian Magpie

I guess Pards doesn’t want two players giving the ball away. Maybe one’s enough?
17 WWJBD // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Indian Magpie
When did HBA become a victim? Have a word with urself lad
18 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:02 AM

If there is any justice in the world, Warnock will get a 3 match ban. If that is not dangerous play then nothing is. he makes these challenges every week, and I can only hope that just once, he is the one who gets his leg broken severely from one of his train crash lunges.
19 Stuart // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Why are you still calling him Pardwho Indian? Is 1 point off 4th not good enough to show the man respect?
20 Wor Shearer // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:03 AM

@Lynxie

Down boy!
21 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:05 AM

“can’t believe people are currently shouting for Ben Arfa to be in the side!”

Dont be ridiculous lad…. Giving the ball away let me tell you who gave the ball away 10x more than HBA vs Brighton SHOLA AMEOBI…I dont see much going into that..

HBA looses the ball but unlike Shola he runs back to TRY and get it back as of late…his work ethic has improved immensely but there are

DOUBLE STANDARS on the fellow and its grosly unfair its sick…
22 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Call me old fashioned but I always thought that it was down to the player to prove to the manager that he deserve’s a starting place?

So why is HBA an exception?
23 Selbymag // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Of the current rash of highlighted tackles and incidents Warnocks tackle is up there with the worst. If Taylor had been able to get up and retliate as QPR Cisse did on Saturday Taylor would have been sent off. How the hell does that work.
Warnocks challenge I refuse to call it a tackle was missed on MOTD2 despite been seen 5 times in replays of the goal.
24 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Ben Arfa is a luxury, but HE IS OUR luxury!! I thought (injuries apart) if he had been put on for the last twenty mins, he would have run at Villas defence from midfield, and we could have torn them a new one. Unfortunately, with two enforced substitutions, we had to put the Walker Ronaldo on, and he held the ball up very well for once (well done Shola, now get consistent please). On any other week, cabaye or ben arfa would have left Villa’s midfield trailing. Perch and Guthrie are doing OK, but they are NOT top drawer (yet).
25 Selbymag // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Realised I called it a tackle initially. Arse!
26 WWJBD // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM

JB
Because of his name
27 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:07 AM

WWJBD

Thanks mate for explaining that
28 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Wor shearer:

??
29 Indian Magpie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM

okay Mr Alan Pardew,

evrything is rosy, Perchele is the best thing since makelele, I Personally think with Gosling we would have done better (but who am I). pardew said himself Villa were the better team in the 1st half.
30 Wor Shearer // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:09 AM

@JackButler

I reckon the man who scored the greatest goal ever (according to Pards) should probably get a bit of slack.

I’m not saying he should start (only when Cabs and Tiote get back, imo).
31 cyprus // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Jayphoto,
I totally agree with you, HBA does remind me of Taraapt who almost single handedly changed a game, a couple of days ago. Your analogy strengthens the point that he should play, definitely ahead of Perch for crying out loud!!
32 Selbymag // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Indian – Perch had a solid if unspectacular game and has looked steady in the middle in last couple of weeks. Gosling blotted his copybook with the daft sending of when given his chance.
Perch seems to give all the right vibes as an individual even if not technically gifted.
33 Wor Shearer // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:11 AM

@Lynxie

You were like an angry Terrier. lol
34 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Cyprus…

Not according to Pardew he doesnt, he “gives the ball away”

Ameobi first touch yesterday was a ball INTO TOUCH and second touch was FOUL on the touchline on a villa player go figure he will get the nod 9/10 times over HBA….
35 Stuart // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Who said anything about Perch?

All I’m saying is considering we lost alot of our best players in the summer, replaced them with top quality for pennies, were predicted by basically everyone to be in a relegation fight, yet are currently one point off the top 4, every single fan should be extactic with the way the season is going.

Still calling Pardew by childish names is quite pathetic. Especially as the man is being linked with the England job. No more Pardwho mate, he’s a household name, and deservedly so.
36 shearer4pm // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM

does anybody know where i can get a picture of demba and cisse kissing the floor after dembas opener, iconic image, but cant find it anywhere on the internet, and taking a photo of a paused video is horrendous quality lol
37 WWJBD // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM

JB
Haha no worries mate. HBA was made into something of a legend before he kicked a ball this season imo and now people just want that to be justified
38 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Indian – We are fifth in the league in only the second season back in the prem and still your not happy

I get the feeling that if Gosling had started then you’d be bitching that Pardew was wrong to do that and that Perch should have started, no matter what Pardew does you’ll always find something to bitch and moan about if at the expense of making yourself look clueless
39 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM

lads i dont care what HBA is or isnt capable of fact is he doesnt do it consistantly he has been truly awful in recent games and nobody who plays badly keeps their place not anymore we got relegated for playing people on reputation.
40 Indian Magpie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Selby,

as a matter of choice you would choose Perch Over Perchele
41 cyprus // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Has HBA proven he deserves a game? He has scored the best goal ever, he has shown that he can dance around opponents Messi-style, he does track back, unlike well u know who. All AP is doing is alienating our biggest talent (his words). In his place I would ask for a transfer… Imagine him in a Spurs top, terrorising our defence. I think it’s personal and AP can’t handle it…
42 pbNcl // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:16 AM

This truly is dreamland. Not only can we now defend with real conviction but sir pardew has also brought the very best out of players like guthrie and simpson. Simpson has really impressed me recently as has perch. As for cabaye or guthrie in midfield, well that’s a lovely problem, and ill leave it to the bloke in charge. World class strike force with a dominant midfield and a solid back line, colo is immense, I’m so happy its unreal!
43 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Cyprus +1
44 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

jackbutler im guessing that fellas off spoutin shite again i dont read his comments anymore hes dead to me any way why people are moaning is beyond me!
45 Jail for Ashley // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Does anyone who’s been to the QPR and yesterday’s game think the atmospheres been a bit flat,I put it down to the away fans being totally pants,or the early kick off meaning everyones not suitably tanked up enough to make a noise..
46 WWJBD // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM

shearer4pm

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47 Indian Magpie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Jack B,

I am a big fan of HBA and Gosling, so may be a bit biased. but you may or may not agree subsitutions (enforced or not) did change the game
48 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM

“his truly is dreamland. Not only can we now defend with real conviction but sir pardew has also brought”

In fairness, the villa game we could been down 2 goals in 4 minutes …..lucky for us it was villa not spurs there…. if it wasn’t for Krul it could have easily swung the other way….Krul has saved us like 18 points this season
49 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Shearer 4pm:
With pleasure
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50 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

If HBA does not buy into the way we play or the mentality that is required at the club and wants to leave then fine, I cant understand why people are siding with a player that has been inconsistent at best over a manager thats got us to 5th in the league
51 WWJBD // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:23 AM

gorgonzola
“Krul has saved us like 18 points this season” I dont see the point in this. He is our GK his job is to save us points its why people get a very good keeper
52 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Thank God that Senegal are rubbish otherwise yesterdays points would have been in the Midlands.
53 SurefootedShola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:23 AM

I cannot fathom how some are still moaning. I definitely think some worship HBA above supporting NUFC, it’s an unhealthy obsession.
54 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:23 AM

…meaning that if Senegal were any good, the twins would still be in Africa now, awaiting a semi fina;l place……
55 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Indian – would the substitutions include Obertan who every man and his dog has been calling to be dropped as he’s useless?

HBA has to prove to Pardew that he deserves a place in the side, Pardew does not have to accommodate any player
56 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

“player that has been inconsistent at best over a manager thats got us to 5th in the league”

Possibly one of the most biased comment I have EVER heard….

JB dont you think for one second 5th is a bit of players doing also?
Now looking at the following

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatem_Ben_Arfa

In the games played column in France he was at what 33? At Newcastle he is sitting on 13 but of coarse those would be him being subbed or being as a sub for a full 10 minutes…

Plus Ameobi has had MORE MUCH MORE game than this lad that is GROSSLY unfair…and to make matters worse Obertan even though he had a dozen bad games has started not STOP the entire first half of the season, (loosing possession with his flicks poor poor passes)

Now tell me….is HBA that Inconsistent?
57 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Sure footed Shola

“I cannot fathom how some are still moaning. I definitely think some worship HBA above supporting NUFC, it’s an unhealthy obsession.”

I tend to agree but DISMISSING a player with 13 NON consecutive starts in the Pl is PATHETIC to say the least when some of his teamates have done just the same if not worse but they are played over and over….?

What does that say? You and whoever cant honestly say OBERTAN has proved he must start pretty much every game? He really hasn’t been up to scratch even though he is growing on me as a lad….

As for Ameobi I have no comment…..
58 Indian Magpie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Jack,

PPL think that Obertan like Ronaldo and Nani will come good, i hope so but at this stage (22) they were ahead of where obertan is now.

he was better than what he was dishing up earlier but that is no compliment.
59 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

“HBA has to prove to Pardew that he deserves a place in the side, Pardew does not have to accommodate any player”

EXACLTY yet HBA is the scape goat and is under the effing microscope for every ball he looses…

I would be a zillionaire to count Ameobi lost balls and Obertan for instance nothing seems to be happening there…

they both played MORE than double the amount of games…

I think some of you are confusing HBA with Pardews inability to know how to …

1. MANAGE him
2. PLAY him

simple…
60 jayphoto // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Fully appreciate how talented Ben Arfa is, but he goes missing something chronic in games! It’s a team game and we look a lesser side when he plays at the moment and considering we’re a game away from 4th place i’d say we shouldn’t change a system to suit 1 player! Can’t compare him with Ameobi, shola played these last 4/5 games because we had no1 else! Doubt he’ll see any playing time now Ba and Cisse are back! he’s 4th choice so don’t see the issue! Still think i’ve seen Ben Arfa (twice! against blackburn away 1st half and chelsea) put in worse performances than i’ve ever seen shola play! The difference is, when sholas awful, we;re just toothless upfront, but when Ben Arfa is awful, we’ struggle uptop and defensively! Asides from his goal, he was very poor against Fulham also! people need to take off the youtube blinkers! He’s in danger of becoming another Lua Lua!
61 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Some games were never ever intended for HBA to be on the field. A game agianst Stoke away or blackburn away is one which requires grit strength and battle. HBA has none of these qulaities. he is unstoppable when given the scope to run at people, and against tired legs he is priceless. However, conversely, some games when you play football, he can be an ace up the sleeve. I think the mackems may have no answer to him…….
62 toonincheek // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Selbymag – only one?
A true Yorkshire man.
No armbands when you were a lad, eh?
63 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:33 AM

“He’s in danger of becoming another Lua Lua!”

That is just dismal…..
64 WWJBD // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:33 AM

gorgonzola
When has HBA ever been a scape goat?
65 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Indian Magpie

on Obertan very valid point indeed….
66 Selbymag // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM

At the end of the day AP sees the players in training a lot more than all the bloggers so that will impact on the side he puts out on a Saturday.
Is HBA a great trainer ?? Who knows but AP obviously does not fancy him as a player as much as some on here.
Perhaps the team ethic and putting your body online for the badge is not what HBA is about and this is why he does not start.
Who knows but to be honest Pardew is doing a great job for me and I trust his decisions.
67 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

gorgonzola

“player that has been inconsistent at best over a manager thats got us to 5th in the league”

Possibly one of the most biased comment I have EVER heard….

JB dont you think for one second 5th is a bit of players doing also?

And who is managing these players???

Who is getting the best out of these players???

Biased comment???

I don’t think so mate. If HBA is as good and as consistent as you and a few others believe he is then he’s easily get into our side
68 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM

WWJBD

When well the loosing possession I will bin you scape goat mate…He is an attacking player he does that he will come good but he is NOT ALLOWED to by pardew as, he looses 2-3 balls he is binned…

Obertan could score and OWN goal 3 times he would not be binned as would Shola now before any of you state that Obertan had a what 2 game break he had the ENTIRE first half of the season to play and to be honest he has been FAR FROM consistent yet bang he is playing vs VIlla he had a lot of poor choices… Now dont get me wrong here not slating him but using him to prove a point here lad..
69 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM

gorgonzola:
you are missing the point. No -one is syaing tha HBA is the reason for anything. The point remains, he only performs when he feels like it, and at Fulham, he only got the bit between his teeth for the last 15 minutes. Against blackburn, he may as well not have been on the pitch. Obertan was omitted because his workrate and ability did not warrant his inclusion, Ben Arfa is no different. this is a TEAM, and there are no CERTAINTIES to start (well now that the twins are back from africa, there are not). I am sure when benny gets his place back, he will fight hard to keep it, and he will appreciate that it is not an easy shirt to earn. Greta player (possibly) or wasted talent (also possibly). The application is down to him. Against Blackburn he turned the fullback three times and then went for a fourth, and ran it out of play. this is not an exhibition match, sometimes the easy ball makes you look good too…..
Only when Tiote and cabaye are back, will we have the strength in midfield to unleash Ben Arfa, as he leaves a gap behind him all the time, and when he loses the ball (occupational hazard for a defence unlocker like him) you need good cover.
70 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM

JB read the post aimed to wards WWJBD your answer is there…
71 Selbymag // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM

toonincheick – too right its not bloody christmas mate.
I live in Yorkshire but dont accuse me of being a Yorkshireman!!!
No shinpads when I was a lad never mind sweatbands. Unless you were Steve Foster and had a crap perm to deal with.
72 jayphoto // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:40 AM

gorgonzola you need to actually watch Ben Arfa in a newcastle shirt! Not a lyon or marseille 1, but a newcastle 1! He’s got all the talent in the world but his team work, off the ball work, positional play and decision making are poor! If we played in portugal and spain we could accomodate a player like this, but in the premier league you get punished for it! I really hope he improves but at the moment he’s not done enough to deserve to play! You can shut up about shola too, every1 knows hes not good enough but hes the only target man we had last month, the fact that we got through january 1 point off 4th place suggests it was a good decision!
73 Stuart // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Why should AP have to manage him any different from the rest of the squad?

By all accounts we have a very close knit group of players atm who play for each other, why should HBA be any different?

For the record though, I’m in no way writing him off. I think now that Ba and Cisse are back, and Tiote and Cabaye are coming back we will start to see the very best of HBA as he will have Tiote protecting the back 4, Cabaye feeding him and Cisse and Ba causing havoc running through the lines etc in front of him.

Best and Shola are not on the same wavelength as HBA so we never got to see the best of him.
74 WWJBD // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:41 AM

gorgonzola
So training has no impact on team selection then fella?
75 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Lynxie

“Only when Tiote and cabaye are back, will we have the strength in midfield to unleash Ben Arfa, as he leaves a gap behind him all the time, and when he loses the ball (occupational hazard for a defence unlocker like him) you need good cover.”

valid point, but you are getting ahead of yourself lad I really DOUBT Pardew will play him…. even then tbh.

Sometimes I think HBA is portrayed as a headless moron who just runs and looses the ball….

I think Pardew due to his lack of risky attacking play tells me he wont play him…cause Pardew DOESNT know how to play him…. BB game we where being smashed on attack and HBA was instructed to HUG the touchline wich was poor…

Our answer in the BB game was to try and close the game with Perchy boy, wich in all honesty OWWW soooo nearly we payed the price for as our attach was even more toothless and were being MASSIVELY OVERUN….

Now my point in the BB game is the following if BB DID score with what will you counter if you just BINNED a player like HBA? Perch I dont think so as he is out of position…
76 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:44 AM

WWJBD:

Whats with using the negative to proove a point..

“So training has no impact on team selection then fella?”

Now with my reply I am acknowledging the part of Pardew but as a fan and follower of football in general Pardew for me hasnt really done any insane tactic change swoop to sweep me of my feet lad…. It was MOSTLY done by the team m8 he is solid Manager NOT SPECTACULAR…sorry to say….

In fact to add onto that I miss a passing game we used to play wich has kind off disappeared since Pardew joined tbf
77 cjcox88 // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:44 AM

I am going to get battered for saying this, but I can’t see how Ben arfa would be one of the first names on the team short for anyone at the moment. He has bags of talent, ability and tricks but he gives the ball away far too easily and really messed with the balance of he team. I’m not going to criticise his work rate as I think that had improved a lot and he can score a wonder goal, but I think that is outweighed by the number of times he gives the ball away. Don’t get me wrong I still rate him highly but in my opinion, when marveux is back, Jonas should head over to the right and marv on left to maintain balance. Ben arfa is a luxury we can’t afford in race for Europe
78 cyprus // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:44 AM

gorgonzola @58, agree.
@65, I hope you are right. It’s just that I suspect he has a weak spot for certain players (see many comments since start of this season). Should he accommodate super-star players who can change a game? You bet! And I don’t get that youtube comment all the time… Personal experience?
79 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Stuart:
perfect summary. thats exactly what I think. Once we get our FULL STRENGTH team out, we will start to motor. HBA needs Tiote and Cabaye to give him the freedom to attack through the middle, without getting slaughtered for losing theball (its gonna happen after all occasionally).
80 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Jayphoto

“gorgonzola you need to actually watch Ben Arfa in a newcastle shirt! Not a lyon or marseille 1, but a newcastle 1!”

mate I would love to ask Pardew for a string of 9 games then come talk to me about watching him in a Newcastle shirt….
81 martoon // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Football is all about opinions and you don’t always agree with the manager’s team choice, substitutions, tactics etc. myself included. However overall AP is doing a fabulous job and how anybody can call AP a bad manager at the moment is unbelievable – in fact on 5 live he was being discussed as a strong candidate for Manager of the Year!
82 Selbymag // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM

the passing game that dissapeared since Pardew came!!!! The one where we passed it at Carrolls head and hoped for the best!
83 Indian Magpie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:47 AM

sometimes players dont do much in training, Look at Ledley King, hardly ever trains still plays
84 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM

gorgonzola

Is that the passing game that we played under SBR or KK??? as that was the last time we played the passing game with any real success

But I stand corrected mate, Pardew is clueless, he has no idea how to manage players especially someone with the talent of HBA, who by the way will be getting my vote for the greatest player of all time.

And our 5th place in the league is a fluke and is all down to luck and is no way has it been helped by our manager or coaching staff
85 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM

martoon WHO is calling him a bad manager?
86 pbNcl // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM

If you were fighting a war, it would be normal for bullets to just miss you and your pals, the same with football. Near scrapes are all part and parcel of the game, this is the premiership and you come up against top class opposition. The ability and the nerve it takes to soak up such pressure, and to not let adversity overwhelm you is a hallmark of this new newcastle era. We will forever be coming under the cosh, but so far, we have dealt with it admirably! Top job sir pardew
87 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

“But I stand corrected mate, Pardew is clueless, he has no idea how to manage players especially someone with the talent of HBA, who by the way will be getting my vote for the greatest player of all time.

And our 5th place in the league is a fluke and is all down to luck and is no way has it been helped by our manager or coaching staff”

Thats just a child response
88 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Indian Magpie i would add to taht list Robert, Cantona, etc etc
89 jayphoto // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:51 AM

indian magpie – king is 30, has chronic knees and proved himself to be a top top premier league player….bit of a difference!
On ben arfa, he’s without a doubt, the most talented player in our squad, i think he would have come on against Villa had we not had the 2 injuries so early on! Think he may play a bigger part when tiote and cabaye come back and i hope he does, but at the moment, with guthrie and perch in midfield, we can’t accomodate him! I think when every1s fit, he’ll be in our first choice 11!
90 Selbymag // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Indian How can you compare HBA with Ledley King.
King is a proven Central Defender with 10years + experience but has shagged knees.
The fact he still plays is testament to his attitude and committment to the cause.
91 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Again the point is missed, King plays at his best CONSISTENTLY, something that HBA does not do
92 Indian Magpie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM

in addition People sya Shola Ameobi is deadly in training, hardly ever seen that on TV
93 Indian Magpie // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Just explaining, the training bit, not always the best indicator i thought
94 WWJBD // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM

gorgonzola
Where is the negative in what I said?

The team train all week long and then the team is selected, ur putting ur argument on the back of a handful of games that HBA has played for us Pardew picks on merit of that and training. I know which I trust more

HBA overall contribution to our team is debateable even without the knowledge of full training sessions and we are in the best season in years at the moment so why risk a higher place in the league for the sake of allowing HBA a free role to drift in and out of games

He has to make a impact when given the chance which he has had when Pards has been able to gift him one what he has shown individually has been promising but overall its no better than who he has replaced and, for me, often been worse
95 cyprus // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Jack,
AP has done extremely well, fluke or not. However, if you check his CV you’ll see that he is in unknown territory right now and he has little experience with real stars, unlike, say Fergie. It’s not his fault everybody’s been there i.e. He’s making it up right now and I hope, for his and the team’s sake, that he gets it right. Only yesterday he talked about us being safe now… (really, hooray!?)
96 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Looking at this “issue” its very simple…

HBA should be played more often than not THEN ONLY will the jury be out… He shoul dbe played ahead of Obertan for a run of 10 games….see how it plans out…

Why give Obertan that indulgance over HBA ? WHy seriously? cause Obertan doenst loose possession ? yeah right I could make a nice 1 hr documentary on that…

SImple HBA needs a strong run of games, hell he could turn out to be poor he could turn out to be brilliant now if one does not play him you will never know, and in a season with 13 games as a sub its a poor sense of using a player with such ability in my mind…

Other than that he will leave, some of you lads will be relieved, he could join saaayyy SPurs and tear us appart next season, and in all honestly it would not surprise me…one bit…
97 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:57 AM

WWJB

“So training has no impact on team selection then fella?””

THAT IS A NEGATIVE to try and prove your point …. highlight word NO impact…I never said it didnt mate…
98 pbNcl // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:59 AM

On topic of ben arfa. I don’t think its an issue that he’s not a regular starter, the modern game is very much about the squad, and this lad is a real handful! You can’t possibly play all your best players at once, cos you need more than 11! Its a long season and pardew has the liberty to pick from an ever growing and versatile squad. Now all ashley needs to do is respect the name of st james’ and he might just get a few of us die hard geordie’s on side….
99 WWJBD // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM

gorgonzola
U clearly are ignoring it as ur implying Pards has been picking HBA on the basis of him losing balls and even said he has been made into a scape goat

ALSO WHY ARE U SHOUTING FOR NO APPARENT REASON?

We all have a cap lock my friend
100 jayphoto // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM

i think the difference in obertan and HBA is simply, obertan doesn;t take risks in his own half! Ben Arfa will often take risks far too close to his own goal, heard cabaye mention that in a interview actually! Think Hatems still learning what the premier league is about, i’d be happy with 30 minute cameos for next couple of games and look to start him against sunderland arsenal and norwich!
101 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:01 PM

WWJBD

so you got where you where using the negative to try and persuade your point across then?

Using caps as you didnt see the first time or you chose not to …
102 pbNcl // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM

However, of course I understand peoples fustrations. I would personally start ben arfa on the right if not up front or in the hole. All about the bigger picture I suppose
103 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:06 PM

cyprus -Pardew may not have been this high in the league before but the fact he’s taken us to 5th with a small squad with little to spend deserves massive credit for him the coaching staff and the players and not the constant bitching and moaning about his selections and tactics.

As for being safe, well this is only our second season back in the Prem and after Barton, Nolan, Jose and Carrol leaving we were expected to go down by most so called ‘experts’.
At the start of the season we were aiming for a top 10 finish and at this point we are a point away from Champions league football, so being safe at the start of February is something of an achievement for a small squad
104 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:07 PM

To add something…

TO me Ben Arfa seems a bit petrified on the field to me his body language talks to me dare I not loose the ball Pardew will have a fit..

IF only that worked on Obertan… He should be given do what you want lad you have an open cheque book if you will….

See how he plays….

IF he doesnt show up after a decent run of games and when I mean decent I mean half a season just like Obe I would be the first one to OWN up, and say I was wrong on the lad….
105 Rowan Milsted // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:08 PM

We need to stay injury-free more than ever now, especially at the back with Ryan ‘utility’ Taylor out for what could be a while. I think he’d have started the Spurs game at RM, but what really impressed me about Obertan was his defensive work rate. He did the same defensive job Jonas does on the left, and it’s a massive testament to his character that a player known for blistering pace and offensive qualities could be so willing to do his bit tactically and protect Simmo at RB. I think Obers will start at Spurs. The only problem is that Taylor can put decent deliveries into the box whilst Ober’s end product is still found wanting too often. I still hope that will improve with game time. His pace alone is a lethal weapon, especially when counter attacking which I expect us to do a lot away at Tottenham.

I think it’s fair to say that Villa pinpointed Simmo as our weak link and tried to hit us down the left as often as possible. Simmo stuck to his task and had a decent game, with a little help from Raylor and Ober of course. The fact that Zog came off for Heskey (!) speaks highly of how we defended that flank. I feel that Villa’s main threat was when Bent and Keane dropped into that ‘hole’ between our defence and midfield, which they did a few times. To be fair, they are a handful, and though they found space there a few times perch and Guthrie were never too far away. Perch had a good game, can’t remember him really putting a foot wrong, so I think he’ll start next week which will be a massive test for him. But as he’s shown signs of improvement in his last 3 games, that’s fair enough.

I’m also delighted with Ba and Cisse, mainly because they didn’t look fit, looked jaded and only at about 80% fitness, but they battled on and kept threatening, and of course both got on the scoresheet. Hopefully the’ll be closer to match fitness next week and will be a massive threat to the Tottenham goal.

I’d take a draw in that game. It’ll be interesting to see if HBA features. If Cisse or Ba is lacking a bit f fitness then we might just start one up front with HBA behind. I expect we’ll stick with 4-4-2 though, maybe HBA will come off the bench for Cisse or Ober at some point, depending on how the game is going of course.
106 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Just by the by…Insomnia kept loosing the ball against us but he made their goal….

think about that….for a while…..
107 NUFC FOR SALE // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Was it just me but did anyone expect Cisse to be quicker?

I thought a few times he chased the ball down but didn’t seem to get there as quick as I thought he would?
108 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:11 PM

NUFC for sale…

EXACTLY what I though my only explanation is he could be knackered from the ACON…he did seem a bit slow I must admit…
109 NUFC FOR SALE // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:13 PM

gorg

you could be right. I mean Ba as well looked really jaded.

To be honest I haven’t seem much of Cisse before yesterday so not sure if he was meant to be rapid? Sure someone told me he was though?
110 gorgonzola // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM

NUFC FOR SALE

I did have a good view of the lad in Germany he looked like a bolt but not a long distance runner like BA more short bursts in the box….

I hope he is faster being a strong and built like that reminds me of Tino a bit )))
111 Dannyo // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM

We’re having the HBA debate again?
Only way i can see us getting him into the team is by playing a 4-3-1-2.
With a full squad my starting lineup would be:
Simmo, Saylor, Collo, Santon
Guthrie, Tiote, Cabaye
HBA
Ba, Cisse

The thing is, what will we do with players like Gutti, Sammy, Marveux and Obertan…??
112 jayphoto // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:19 PM

i saw cisse play a couple of times for freiburg last year, he’s speed is more over short distances! Remember Arsene Wenger years ago saying he was looking for a “fox in the box”….that description would suit Papiss! Reactions and speed over short distance is phenomenal! Gets into space well!
113 shearer4pm // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:22 PM

@wwjbd
awsome cheers mate
114 Rowan Milsted // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Dannyo

That’s the trouble! When you accommodate him you lose other players. That formation of yours looks awesome, and it is – but it also has no wingers! You could also play a 4-1-2-1-2: Tiote, then Cabaye and Jonas, then HBA, then 2 strikers, but then there’s no place for Guthrie, Marveaux, etc. It’s very difficult, which is the main reason HBA hasn’t walked back into the starting line up. Perhaps the best formation to play him in would be a 4-4-1-1, one to use when we have unfit strikers. HBA would relish that role, and there would be plenty of bodies behind him to cover.
115 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:27 PM

jack Butler:
HBA the greatest player of all time? Please man, just take your head for a shit. Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Zidane, Beckenbauer, Platini………
Jesus man get a grip.
116 Rowan Milsted // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:28 PM

NUFC FOR SALE

I reckon he was just a bit jaded from ACON and travel, I could be wrong but I wouldn’t worry. You could tell that Ba wasn’t 100% fit so it only stands to reason that Cisse was in a similar position, especially when you consider he’s never played at the pace of the Prem before. He unlocked his pace a couple of times but looked tired after, so I’m confident that he’s got an extra couple of yard’s pace in his locker.
117 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:32 PM

NUFC for sale:
I thought he was quick enough in getting the ball down and lasering it into the top corner before anyone else had moved……………….

Quick where he needs to be. In his head and with his feet.

Cisse needs only to do what he is obviously good at. excessive speed is no guarantee of quality (Obertan, Wayne Fereday?)
Form is temporary, quality is permanent.
118 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Lynxie – Read the post again fella I was being sarcastic
119 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:36 PM

The more you look at that goal, the more you realise we have bought a top drawer finisher. the ball was at his chin, and half a second later it was in the top left hand corner. I dont even know why Given dived. It was in the net before he got airborne. This lad Papisto is the real deal, and with him and Demba providing a constant goal threat, we need fear no-one. I had memories of Sir Les and Shearer flooding back when I seen the two of them trying to link up at times. Anyone else see the similarity in style between ‘Papisto’ Cisse and Andy Cole / Samuel Eto’o?
120 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:37 PM

jack:
Apologies, did not pick up on that.
121 JackButler // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Lynxie – I’ll let you off this once
122 toonLYF // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:39 PM

———————–Krul———————-

-Santon——-Willo————Colo——Jonas-

—————-Tiote——Guthrie—————-
——————–Cabaye———————-

-Ben Arfa———– Cisse—————–Ba-

Strong team there, although Simpson has impressed me massively this season, but i just has to fit Jonas into the team as he has been back to his outstanding best at times this season. Looking forward to seeing Marveaux back and Obertan improving, and i can’t wait to see this team in full flow with Santon/Cabaye/Ben Arfa bringing the flair and linking up to find Ba/Cisse, what a team!
123 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:41 PM

JB:
I shall take myself outside and thrash myself. My 100 lines are now complete ‘I must not jump to conclusions’ LOL
124 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Toon LYF:
sorry Mate, but Simpson is a disaster, got to disagree with you. the sooner we replace him the better, He thinks he is the finished article, but almost every goal threat comes down his side.
125 Yohan4 // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:44 PM

would be nice if Benny could nail down a starting position but if Pardew say no then thats good enough for me at this stage and I dont even care if it is because he cant play or manage a player “as big as” benarfa because one thing is for sure he can manage and get the best out of the majority of the team (Q the shola bashing) if pardew cant work with BenArfa because they have different foot ball phylisophys then he will go and although I would be sad to see a great talent leave I would sooner see BA leave than AP.
126 oo aa demba ba // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:47 PM

At the end of the day pardew has done a fantastic job and works with the players day in day out, if something doesn’t go out way its easy enough to say what he should have dpne AFTER the game, but how can anyone doubt him afterhe’s got us playing some great football, working hard and most importantly being a team. Those who think otherwise need a reality check
127 Rowan Milsted // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Lynxie

I think that’s a bit harsh on Simmo, he’s improved steadily since joining and is a decent player in my opinion. He’s probably the weakest link at the back, though Santon gets caught out of position at times, though potentially Santon will go on to become one of the best LB’s around. I agree with you that we could do with a better RB but I’d keep Simmo in the squad for his his work rate and attitude, as well as his ability. If we weren’t 5th in the league he probably wouldn;t be under such scrutiny, I definitely wouldn’t call him a ‘disaster’. I think we could use another LB and CB before we worry about replacing him, and as he keeps improving I think he’ll get better.
128 Rowan Milsted // Feb 6, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Sorry, just read that last bit back – ‘as he keeps improving I think he’ll get better’. Well, state the obvious there! I came over a bit Lawro
129 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Rowan

If things dont change I am sure they will stay the same ha ha ha
130 toonincheek // Feb 6, 2012 at 1:13 PM

HBA not starting/playing is down to APs preferred 4-4-2 formation plus the fact that we’ve had our back to the wall too often.

HBA can do everything Obertan can do, but that’s not his game.
Most times, it’s what Obertan can do, and threten, with his speed that we need, rather than HBAs silky skills.

And I say say as a real HBA fan.
131 cupiddstunt // Feb 6, 2012 at 1:16 PM

I think the HBA argument is simple look at manure.

Two players similar to HBA in Rooney and Berbatov both hugely talented one if he loses the ball will chase the opposition around the pitch through the stands and into the car park to get the ball back if that what was called for, the other stops and waits for his team mates to get the ball back for him.

Rooney the mega talent is a constant fixture in the first eleven and Berbatov who I personally think is one of the most gifted footballers in the EPL is up for sale and had been for two seasons that is what HBA has to get past.

He needs to understand that he has to put effort into his game as at the moment we can’t afford to carry him when he is not putting the effort in it’s as simple as that.

He needs to understand that safe layoffs are what’s needed in our own half get across the centre line and then let loose with the fancy stuff.

Watch Messi and co, in their own half they ping the ball around with one touch football and once the opposition has backed off them then they look to run at them.
132 cupiddstunt // Feb 6, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Gorgonzola @ # 104

Don’t talk such crap.

Your comment stinks more than your namesake, if HBA was worried about losing the ball he would be making the short safe one/two touch passes with his midfield and play the team game to move the ball up the park.

Instead he is trying too hard taking on too much and wasting possession and looks to be doing very little off the ball.
133 Rowan Milsted // Feb 6, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Lynxie

Haha, wise words! I could have written speeches for George Bush with wisdom like that. “There’s no such thing as pollution, it’s just impurities in the air and the water” was one of his best.
134 cupiddstunt // Feb 6, 2012 at 2:09 PM

From the previous thread

lynxsie

To my understanding EA Sport uses computer analysis for their ratings same as Opta who also have Simpson looking ok.

And you use what??????????????

The lad has cleared off the line half a doz times so saved us from half a doz guaranteed goals whereas you claim he is directly responsible for god knows how many goals, although there are another three defenders and a couple of midfielders who could be dropping into positions to help.

So he is not solely responsible for conceding all those goals you claim he is responsible for but he IS clearly responsible for his goal line clearances.

You call me a moron for accepting stats from an impartial source, the moron I think is quite clearly you, moronic in you repeated besmirching of our players and moronic in your replies to the previous thread, moronic in your insinuation that players reading the stats makes them play differently.

Yes I did watch the game on Sunday although I did not obsess over one player as you apparently do, I thought over the whole Simpson had not a bad game and for a defender he is considered to be still young and learning, I give leeway for that.

So you prefer to judge on actual performances, so on Sunday did you just watch Danny or did you watch the game?

Managers watch the game and the coaches watch the players they are coaching, they confer during the game and the manager acts accordingly.

But you apparently are capable of all these things simultaneously remarkable, so now tell me why you are not an exceedingly well paid football manager.
135 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 3:27 PM

cupid:
How do you know I am not?
Assumptions are the mother of all disasters my friend.
You assume that Simpson is the business, I disagree. if he was, I am sure the powers that be, would be offering a better contract (as he seems to think he is worth). I do not see that happening, yet it is in motion for Krul, ba, cabaye etc. I did not obsess over one player over one game, and yes Simmo has saved a few goals by being conveniently placed at times this season.
On the flipside of that, his poor defensive abilities are obvious, as we (for 2 years now) have needed a winger to help him constantly. Couple that with the (whatever it was he was thinking of) Liverpool second goal…
I bet you also think that Xisco needs a chance, and that Lovenkrands has a place and that Luque was misunderstood, and Boumsong just needed time to adapt, and Viana is a world class player etc etc. Opinions are like a*sholes, we all have them mate. Mine is that Simpson is not a top defender, and I think you will find he will be allowed to move on if he does not sign up, which leads me to believe others don’t think he is top drawer either. If he was, he would be getting tied down to a long term contract in case some team pinches him from under our noses. next year, he will be lucky to be in the team, bench for sure, but not starting.
136 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 3:28 PM

cupid:
Oh and by the way, I wouldnt take a pay cut to become a football manager.
137 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 3:32 PM

EA sports have me down as the 19th best manager in the world, and that I am also the best looking and with the largest hampton, measuring an impressive 18.19 inches. It states that when I get aroused, I can get 15 budgies on it, but the one on the very end has to balance on one leg…….
EA sports, dont you just love their facts?
138 RobertLeeNo.7 // Feb 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Mike Williamson was in no mans land for the villa goal and got caught out a few times… his concentration isn’t up to much at all and for that he will never be a top centre back add that to his pace and his positional sense and we have a centre half that should be 4th choice at best. Likable bloke but not a top 7 premier league centre half.
The amount of times Colo had to cover the whole of that back line yesterday and do other peoples jobs was just incredible.. Colo makes him look alright truth is he is incredibly average.
139 Lynxie // Feb 6, 2012 at 4:33 PM

RobertLeeNo7:
Truth is, it was down Simpsons flank once again. Out of position so Colo went across to cover, got skinned and the cross was a tap in. I question why Simmo gets pulled all over the shop constantly. It happened at Brighton last week, happened at Fuham, happened again yesterday.
140 cupiddstunt // Feb 6, 2012 at 5:33 PM

lynxsie

How do I know you are not what???????

READ my posts and tell me where I made assumptions as to me I made conclusions.

Unlike you I have never made any claim to the level of abilities of any of the players.

The game is played by a team and that is the point of having players cover for one another.

So by your reckoning Krull is a bad keeper as Danny has had to step in numerous times this season alone to clear off the line where Tim has left a hole.

If Danny is as bad as you claim why has he started and played every game this season?

The one thing you have proved on here is your imagination by far outstrips your hampton and your Hampton vastly outstrips your intellect.

Which is probably why you run people down as it helps you elevate your self worth to you.
141 bills-son // Feb 6, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Stuart // Feb 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM – All I’m saying is considering we lost alot of our best players in the summer, replaced them with top quality for pennies, were predicted by basically everyone to be in a relegation fight, yet are currently one point off the top 4, every single fan should be extactic with the way the season is going. Still calling Pardew by childish names is quite pathetic. Especially as the man is being linked with the England job. No more Pardwho mate, he’s a household name, and deservedly so.

Stuart – great post.

Fans who are calling Pardew just show how ignorant and stupid fans can be. 1pt off a Champs League place and with a team that plays its ar$e off for him … and he gets CRITCISED!!?? Its laughable.

Just as ridiculously laughable is an avatar like Jail For Ashley … how STUPID does that name sound now.

I’ve just been talking to a business contact who is a West Ham fan and he said “you are doing great but your fans still hate Ashley don’t they” ..

I replied … the hatred filled blinkered thick fans do. But not the sensible fans – and there are more and more of them in that bracket every day.

Ashley has done a FANTASTIC job of running this club in the past two and a half years. Not one Toon fan – not me, not anybody – could have predicted or dreamt that we would be where we are now after we got relegated.

We are here … 5th in the Prem, with a great manager, a brilliant squad, 6/7 top class players, young players of quality coming through, money in the bank to spend in the summer … here, not through luck, but because of Ashley getting the planning and strategy right AND being brave enough to stick with it even when he was getting the vilest of personal abuse.

Thank God the guy stuck with us even though 1000s tried their best to convince him to go.
142 Best9 // Feb 6, 2012 at 8:19 PM

shearer4pm i took a pic from my tele n it seems to have came out of good quality;

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ive uploaded it there for ya if ya want it.