Newcastle Manager Questions How FA Handled John Terry Dismissal

10:08 am, Friday, February 10th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 59 Comments

Alan Pardew has been asked about the England manager position a number of times this week, but yesterday he questioned how the FA handled the situation with John Terry.

Fabio Capello - resigned after meeting with FA this week

The FA made the decision to strip John Terry of the England captaincy after it was learned that his trial for racially abusing Anton Fedinand at Loftus Road, would not take place until July, and after the 2012 European Championships.

Alan Pardew wonders just how much Fabio Capello was involved in that decision, because he disagreed with it big time, and that ultimately led to his leaving the England manager position this week.

This is what Alan said about the situation yesterday:

“When you’re going to say the captain is no longer the captain, when that decision is taken, you should be consulted as manager and I’m not sure how much involvement he had.”

“If Mike said to me ‘Colo’s not going to be captain any more’ I’d want to discuss it and go through every little nook and cranny. The same applies to that Spurs job.”

“You can never determine, because the club has a say in that as well, but as far as I’m concerned my focus is very much here.”

“I think it’s important to say that because there will be speculation. That can be very damaging to the players and staff here, so I want to make it very clear to them that I’m staying.”

We would have thought that Fabio Capello was fully involved with the decision, even though he could have been a dissenting voice in the decision.

But you can never accuse the FA of being a smoothly run organization, or doing things in a logical way, so we just don’t know what happened.

But Fabio’s comments last weekend on Italian TV suggested there was a big rift between Capello and the FA, and it didn’t surprise us that much when he announced he was resigning from the position this week.

But it does leave England in a little bit of a quandary as to who to appoint for the upcoming tournament, and they will be creating a short list of candidates today, which is likely to include foreign managers Jose Mourinho and Guus Hiddink.

Why do England always seem to shoot themselves in the foot before these big tournaments?

But we think if Harry Redknapp is put in charge, he would be able to quickly get the England players together, and we could even have a good tournament for a change.

But the England fans are not always right about choosing the England manager, because there was a huge move to make a certain Kevin Keegan the England manager about 12 years ago.

That was after he had done so brilliantly at Newcastle, but Kevin turned out to be an absolute disaster in the England manager position, and resigned in the dressing room, after Germany beat us 1-0 at Wembley in a 2002 World Cup qualifier on 7th October, 2000.

And it was former Newcastle midfielder Dietmar Hamann who got the only goal of the game after 14 minutes from a free-kick.

Kevin said he didn’t think he was up to the job after he had resigned:

“I really just feel a little bit short of what’s required,” ”I just don’t feel I can find that little bit of extra that you need at this level to find that winning formula.”

England certainly need to do well in Poland and the Ukraine after the completely embarrassing World Cup of a couple of years ago.

Comments welcome.

Tags: England News · Euro 2012 · European Competition

59 responses so far ↓

1 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM

the only negative with US winning

Arsenal losing
Liverpool losing

is that,
the scums would have won too,
darn, cant have everything
2 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM

what the hell is nook and cranny
3 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:14 AM

i doubt if terry will ever play for England again
4 roshan MAGPIE // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM

i dont care what happens with england FOOTBALL team only love to hear news about NEWCAStle united
5 jayphoto // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Hodgson would be a better choice for England manager! Had success with switzerland and finland, managed at Inter Milan etc so has experience of football outside of england! Always rated him tactically, think he had a raw deal at liverpool! If they appoint redknapp the press will have a field day going through his past, the reason the sun are promoting him so much is probably because they already have 10 stories on him lined up!
6 GeordieGesus // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Indian Magpie, every hole. Nothing should be left uncovered.
7 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Well, thank You
8 roshan MAGPIE // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM

http://www.nufcblog.com/2012/02/10/newcastle-manager-questions-how-fa-handled-john-terry-dismissal/comment-page-1/#comment-735935#comment-735935
9 Toonboy_84 // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM

@8 ??
10 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:24 AM

does any1 like Manu and Liverpool matches, i feel they are always overhyped, very rarely more than 2 goals, controversy mongering matches
11 roshan MAGPIE // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:25 AM

JUST KIDDING
12 Toonboy_84 // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Oh. Ha ha. Hilarious
13 jayphoto // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:27 AM

@indian magpie – 1 of my clients took me to 1 a couple years ago when rafa was manager at anfield! The atmosphere was second only to the old firm game in paradise! Can’t stand liverpool personally but you gotta give them credit, they are people who live and breathe football, just like geordies! You don’t get that anywhere else in england!
14 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Thanks Jay

talking abt the playing part, i just dont enjoy the games
15 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:34 AM

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16 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Shola ameobi should start practicing YOGA too, might help him
17 NotAGhostToon // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:35 AM

2 Notes on this one is i think Pardew is reiterating the fact he’s not leaving MORE for the spurs than the England job, I think everyone knows Harry just needs to sign his name, but Pardew knows he would likely be linked to the spurs job and I for one am glad he’s showing his loyalty as I think even though we’re doing well he’s still only really just started! If we’re doing this well now, i think we all know we should go from strength to strength with youth and well scouted signings!

As for Indian Magpies point…Let the mackems keep winning as long as we keep winning 2 things I have always thought it’d be brilliant if we finished 1st every season just for the mackems to consistently finish 2nd. The feeling of joy they had would be so much tainted by being second i would love seeing them sucking on lemons. Also with regards to the current season i want them to keep winning and get arrogant about our game and then us smash them back down to earth with a bang!
18 roshan MAGPIE // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:35 AM

http://www.thefootballramble.com/blog/entry/time-to-praise-ashley
19 jesperfuglsang // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:36 AM

I am not British so I don’t really care who manage the National team – would assume most Brits would want a Brit now?

But I do think the FA once again handled this badly. I just wonder who good enough to handle this job would want to work under these conditions?
20 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM

On the YOGA point, everyone should practice, if it helps
21 ~Papiss-Toon~ // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM

My Team for Spurs:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Krul~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~Simmo~~~~~~~Willo~~~~~Colo~~~~~~~Santon~~
~Guttierez~~~Gosling/Perch~~Guthrie~~~~~Ferguson~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Cisse~~~~~~Ba~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I’d start Guttierez on the right mainly for his defensive capabilities, since Assou-Ekotto and Bale love to run forward a lot, Simmo might get overwhelmed.

I’d start Arfa on the left to bully young kyle walker, who is still relatively new to EPL football and could buckle under the flair of Ben Arfa.

Ideally if we had Zero Injuries, my team would be,

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Krul~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~Simmo~~~~~~~Staylor~~~~Colo~~~~~~~Santon~~
~Guttierez~~~~~~~Cabaye~~Tiote~~~~~~~~Marveux~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Cisse~~~~~~Ba~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
22 ~Papiss-Toon~ // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Lol Arfa not Ferguson.*

Don’t know what I was thinking X.x
23 JackButler // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Why the hell would anyone want the England job after this mornings press story regarding Pierce???

The English press are pathetic and will print anything to get a story for their front page
24 AussieToon // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:52 AM

My team for Spurs:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KRUL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>SIMMO>>>WILLO>>>COLLO>>>SANTON>>>
>>>OBERTAN>>>PERCH>>>GUTHRIE>>>JONAS>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CISSE>>>BA>>>>>>>>>>>>
25 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:53 AM

what happened to Stuart Pearce
26 JackButler // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:54 AM

They printed a story that Pierce used a racial term towards Paul Ince TWENTY YEARS AGO, so not exactly a current story
27 JackButler // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:55 AM

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4120864/England-in-race-storm-No2.html
28 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:56 AM

wanted man – England manager (whoever he is)
29 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Thanks
30 Toon_Tom // Feb 10, 2012 at 10:58 AM

____________________Krul____________________

__________Simo_____Colo______Willo__________

Santon________________________________Jonas

_________Guthrie_______Perch_____________

________________HBA______________________

___________Ba__________Cisse_____________

Jonas and Santon playing as Wing Backs > therefore pottentially beefing up the midfield with 5, and defending in numbers with 5/6 if Benny tracks back too. Also a strong attacking formation when required!

Worth a thought
31 SurefootedShola // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:00 AM

The England team can cease to exist for all I care.
32 jayphoto // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM

wouldn’t wanna see HBA in the starting line up tomorrow! Would love to see him come off the bench with 25 mins to go with a point to prove on his workrate, decision making etc! Jonas and Obertan for me in this 1, Aaron Lennon has always ripped us to shreds regardless of us having good results against spurs and bale is just phenomenal! Can definately see why Pardew said Ben arfa should play as number 10 and not as a winger!
33 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM

JAY,

i am a big fan of HBA and am dissapointed that he has not been starting.

However tomorrow, i can only see HBA coming on if we are losing, as i think pardew will happily take a DRAW and if we are leading he would want to sure up defence
34 JackButler // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM

A point tomorrow would be welcomed but I can’t wait to see Cisse, Ba, Tiote and Cabaye in the starting 11
35 jesperfuglsang // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:14 AM

AP will go 4-4-2 tomorrow as always – he’s afraid he’ll jinx his winning streak.

We won’t see HBA tomorrow unless AP changes system; and as much as I like AP and want him to learn from past mistakes, I know he’ll go about the game tomorrow as he started against Villa.

Even thought we were poor in first half; he just seem to like it that way. Most managers make changes when performance is not up to scratch, but not AP. He sticks to a winning formula regardless.

Just pray to God we don’t start loosing soon ’cause I honestly don’t think AP would know what to do.

Sorry, I might have criticized AP a bit here – know we’re not allowed to on here
36 Toon_Tom // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:16 AM

I dont think anyone knows quite what to expect with tomorrow’s game now. With the 2 Dembas we could possibly destroy them, however we may not, its a strange one. With Cisse now in the team we dont quite know exactly what he will/can do, but thats what makes it more exciting/tense/nerve-shreading!!!!!

HTL

Looking forward to this one
37 Indian Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:16 AM

why does it keep propping in my head that we will draw Real madrid in UCL, and 2 eastern european clubs
38 JackButler // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Toon_Tom – I thing Redknapp will be just as worried about how he is going to deal the Demba’s as we are about dealing with the likes of Bale and co.

On Bale, as a Welshman myself is diving is something that disgust’s me and something that he has to take out of his game
39 jayphoto // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM

anyone know if Spurs are as injury hit as they were on monday night! Just thinking, alot of us are worried about Bale and Modric, but how are they gonna cope with Ba and Cisse! Guthrie is gonna be the key tomorrow, if he plays well we have a chance! Think we should just stick Perch on Modric and tell him to go where ever luca goes!
40 jesperfuglsang // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:29 AM

I think Spurs might look to close down our midfield and make sure Ba and Papisto get no service.

If they have done there homework they’ll know we are coming with a 4 man midfield that has problems under pressure.

They might even try to lure our defense in a high line formation and have a field trip at our goal.

But maybe AP decides to play our own game and surprise ‘Arry Can always hope!
41 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Don’t think AP will be so naive to let Spuds lure us into a high line. The speed that Spuds have going forward is shocking at times. Play off the edge of the penalty box and try and get a hold of possession, and push forward…OR hoofball
42 Yohan4 // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:48 AM

think we are going to see some hoofball tomorrow, might be the best option against the spuds, get the ball up to ba and cisse and see what happens, we wont get drawn out of position too much that way so their pace wont hurt us as much. could make for a boring match but also a good result.
43 jesperfuglsang // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Ruddy, hoofball is our style; I don’t think they are copy-cats
44 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:53 AM

@Jesper….I was talking about us! haha
45 jesperfuglsang // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Ba is not the best kept secret anymore, so I’ll assume Spurs defense are going to man-mark the shit out of both Ba and Papisto. They might even go for a high line them self and play on offside.

We need to come up with something else than hoofball if we want to win this game – and I do

4-3-3 counterattack would be our best weapon – well ad least I think so
46 SurefootedShola // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Apparently Defoe and Lennon trained yesterday, but Van Der Vaart, Kaboul and Sandro did not.
47 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Employed some very effective hoofball against Manure @ SJP…was that a boring match?
48 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:56 AM

@Jesper who knows what AP will try and do, but let’s hope he goes out with the intention of taking something from the game, show the southern media why we are where are and that we deserve to be up flirting with the “top” 4
49 jesperfuglsang // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Ruddy, that was actually a GOOD match

So was the game against Stoke, don’t you think so?

They are just to fare in between.
50 jesperfuglsang // Feb 10, 2012 at 11:57 AM

fare = far )
51 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 10, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Yeah I know Jesper, I reckon we could be due another “shock” result remember when the shock results we used to have were losing to the likes of Wigan and Blackburn at home, whereas now we are beating Man U at home and the likes of Stoke away etc loving life atm! Right lads got to see a man about a dog will see you fun loving chaps laters!!
52 ToonDownSouth // Feb 10, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Ruddy

I think, seeing as I live down south, that I should point out that the whole “southern press” persecution complex is completely ridiculous.

I’ve seen nothing but praise. Mark Lawrenson doesn’t represent the entire footballing comunity.
53 Irie-Magpie // Feb 10, 2012 at 12:03 PM

No reason if we put a shift in against Spurs as we did against Manure a result in our favor shouldn’t be too far fetch..
54 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 10, 2012 at 12:10 PM

TDS there has been nothing but praise after 25games, we’ve been in the top 7 all season, and are only just getting acknowledged that our results and standing are not mere luck and circumstance. It used to be “oh they are going on a great run but surely there luck will run out eventually” remmeber wolves away? apparent ref decisions went our way otherwise we would have lost, according to the southern press, man U at OT, despite an even 1st half and a fluke of a goal that they scored we got no credit for that draw, even though we defended tremendously when we went down to 10men, all the talk was about the penalty. So TDS whilst we may be basking in the appreciation of the southern media NOW they are only coming to realise what all of US have known all season, WE ARE A BLOODY GOOD TEAM!!

Don’t wanna fall out bonny lad just think it’s been a long time coming from them lot
55 ToonDownSouth // Feb 10, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Is Van der Vaart definitely out? Our team absolutely sh!t themselves against a player ‘in the hole’ – see Robbie Keane 5 days ago. So that would be nice.
56 ToonDownSouth // Feb 10, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Ruddy

That’s fair enough – but I’m not sure it’s necessarily a southern thing. Although I guess Sky is the main offender of what you’re talking about.

Sky love to big up the “top six”, and take great pleasure in seeing the clubs splashing absurd amounts of money to take any player they want from whoever they want. They’re constantly celebrating everything that’s wrong with football – see the “Transfer Deadline Day” show.

Anyone else noticed that when we’re 7th, they show the “top six”, and when we’re 6th or 5th they show the “top 7″ hahaha.

They would absolutely hate it if we finished above Liverpool this season, as it would crush the notion they splash out that huge fees, inflated egos and financial doping = success.
57 jesperfuglsang // Feb 10, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Ruddy, we are still lucky non the less

Luck, others misfortune, Krul and Ba have been the turning point for us this season. No shame in admitting that
58 lesh // Feb 10, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Indian Magpie…..

‘Arry was and will continue to be a wanted man…….. by the Revenue at least!
59 ITUNDERASHELL // Feb 10, 2012 at 12:57 PM

56, absolutely on the button.
When the financial meltdown occurs we will be in the black and running the club in a sound way, then we will take our rightful place in the premiership. In the mean time we need to develop and get rid of the debt.